Now that's an awesome blind item!!
I gotta wrap my head around this one for a minute then make a guess at it.
Not Kirk Douglas. He hasn't won an Academy Award. Only nominated.
Shoot…Kirk Douglas never won the Oscar.
what about clint eastwood??
Robert deniroMartin ScorceseJoe PesciGoodfellas
I like the Kirk Douglas guess since he was given an honorary oscar making him a winner. The director: Stanley Kubrick Best friend: Tony Curtis. Movie: Spartacus
Kirk Douglas received a Honorary Academy Award in 1996, therefore he has an academy award.
#1 Fredrich March#2 Stanley Kramer#3 Harry Morgan#4 Inherit the Wind
Oh, snap. I didn't see the honorary Oscar on IMDb. In that case, I'm liking MontanaMarriott's guess.
Kubrick was nominated 5 times and won for 2001 Space Odyssey, so I am back on the Kirk Douglas express.
Gene HackmanWillian FriedkinRoy ScheiderThe french connection??
Problem to solve this blind is that the actor didnt necessarily win his Oscar with this movie…
and i dont like the Kirk Douglas guess because at the time he work with Kubrick, Kirk was a big name and Kubrick was t the beginning of his career. In fact, Kirk produced Spartacus, so i am not buying..
wow, juicy…i suck at these…but you guys are good! *loves*
You guys are doing an awesome job and I have nothing to contribute EXCEPT the B+ actor was a "movie actor and television actor forever". That leaves out, I think, Tony Curtis and Joe Pesci and Roy Schneider. The Harry Morgan guess works, of course.
So I guess the woman was just a random woman?
Can't wait for all your guys' guesses at this blind!
Spartacus was not the first time Kirk and Kubrick had worked together and SK had been making movies (not huge hits) for a while. Kirk was my first guess and MontanaM filled in the rest.
- I consider Tony Curtis Classic A List.
- No idea who this is, just perennially bemused so many women "will take money" for sex.
I guess the actor told her to fake true interest and passion, and never to let slip it was just a job for her.
Srange. I was thinking Dustin Hoffman in The Graduate or Jack Nicholson in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Don't know why except the roles were such iconic characters and the actors were just young enough to need an incredible break like that.
Remember, either the friend or the director is dead.
We know the actor is alive and the blind states "some" are alive, implying more than one person.
I guess that could also include the woman.
Jack Nicholson was not at the start of his career for Cuckoo's Nest. Dustin Hoffman was, but he had no pull to get an actor hired as a costar in the Graduate, only his second film role and first staring role. How anyone could believe that the little putz could talk his way into a role by paying a woman for sex for a year is a putz too. HELLO. And since Mike Nichols was at the beginning of his directing career and rumored to be gay, the woman would not have been of interest to him and he probably didn't have too much pull in getting Hoffman hired and who probably didn't make enough money for this purchase. To pout the kbosh on this whole guess, there were really no beefy male costar roles in that film for the B+ actor. As to the Joe Pesci/Goodfellas guess, He is not known for TV. AT ALL. MY THOUGHTS: I was thinking a pair of actors like Burt Reynolds in his prime when he was A-list and shtupping Sally Field, and Dom DeLuise. Rest his soul. But Burt Reynolds never won an Oscar. And I am not suggesting that he pimped out Sally Field nor Loni Anderson. But that kind of A-list(at the time)actor for the time with a buddy relationship. Also remember that some of the players have passed on to that giant casting cumulo nimphet in the sky to shtupp and shtupp until whenever.
ACTOR: MARLON BRANDODIRECTOR: ELIA KAZANBUDDY: KARL MALDENFILM: ON THE WATERFRONT And according to Shelley(also known as Shirley Schrift)Winters, Marlon was some shtupper. Of course,that is when he wasn't shtupping Wally Cox. But that is a whole other blind item.
#2- Fred Zinnemann
#3- Ernest Borgnine
#4- FROM HERE TO ETERNITY
Shite never mind Burt is dead!
ardleigh, but Ernest Borgnine is not. However, I like what you're pitching. But let's shake it up. How about Frank Sinatra (can't you just see him buying a hooker for a year?) for the pimping actor and Jack Warner for the TV actor. It's kinda iffy because TV was so new at this time. Same director and movie of course. (By the way Ernest Borgnine won Best Actor in 1955)
I like Aly's guess but how about Streetcar Named Desire for the movie (Brando, Kazan and Malden still for the other three) as it comes before On the Waterfront in their work together.
Reaching here:1. Robert Duvall2. Robert Altman3. Elliott Gould4. M.A.S.H.
ACTOR: BURT LANCASTERDIRECTOR: JOHN FRANKENHEIMERB+ FRIEND: TELLY SAVALASFILM: BIRDMAN OF ALCATRAZ
Forget what I said, all those guys are dead.
Aly, everyone in the 5:13 post is dead.
Having thought about this, how about:
1. Mickey Rooney2. Norman Taurog3. Gene Reynolds4. Boys Town
Sorry. I read it wrong. Didn't realize BI stated the Academy Award-winning actor is still alive. Neither Brando nor Lancaster. Shucks.
Dave, that's a great guess! That sounds like something Mickey Rooney would do.
1. jack nicholson2. milos forman3. danny devito4. cuckoo's nestThat is my guess and i am entitled to it.
So, #1 won an Oscar (for something and not necessarily Best Actor) and is still alive. His role for this movie was one of his most famous, but not necessarily his Oscar-winning role. And the best friend who was on TV, he could have been on TV AFTER this movie.
So the question is, what old Hollywood Oscar-winning actor has a best friend who started out (or ended up) on TV? I got nothin' except the first one. Maybe somebody else can fill in the blanks.
Michael Douglas/Danny DeVitoErnest Borgnine/?Sidney Poitier/?Cliff Robertson/?Gene Hackman/?Jack Nicholson/?Richard Dreyfuss/?Jon Voight/?Dustin Hoffman/?Robert DeNiro/?Michael Caine/? (Best Supporting Actor)Sean Connery/? (ditto above)Tommy Lee Jones/?James Coburn/?
Anybody after that might not be considered Old Hollywood.
Do any of them have to be dead?
Because if not:
#1-Jeff Bridges (although I hope he has more class)
#2- Peter Bogdanovich -who left his wife for Cybil Sheppard on this movie
#3- Randy Quaid (aka Cousin Eddie)
#4- The Last Picture Show
Also, Mickey Rooney never won an Oscar, only nominated.
Jack Nicholson didn't have to push Danny DeVito, since Cuckoo's Nest was produced by Danny's old roommate and best friend, Michael Douglas. Just sayin'.
This is a tricky one!
To put a permanent end to the Kirk Douglas guesses: Kubrick took over as a director for the movie months AFTER Curtis was cast. Douglas had hired Anthony Mann but they couldn't agree on anything after the first sequence was shot, so he had the idea of going back to Kubrick with whom he had a deal (three movies, beginning with Paths of Glory). Kubrick had just left another project (Brando's "One-Eyed Jacks") and was on set two days later. After that, Douglas and Kubrick fired the lead actress and hired Jean Simmons.
In addition to that, Curtis and Douglas had worked together before, in The Vikings.
The Mickey Rooney guess is a great one and Rooney has so much Hollywood experience that it looks like something he would attempt (and then speak about) to boost his career.
#1: Ernest Borgnine#2: Delbert Mann (Academy Award winner)#3: Joe Mantell (did a lot of TV and some interesting movie roles)#4: Marty
This is not the sexiest of guesses, but I think it adds up.
I thought of that Cindy-O, but in what galaxy does Joe Mantell rate as a B+ movie actor. Does one AA nomination make someone B+? Hello Sally Kirkland? If this is it, ENTY or whoever is ghostwriting these columns didn't write this one very well.
I completely forgot that Danny DeVito was in One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest. That episode of It's Always Sunny is so much funnier now!
How about Cliff Robertson, director Ted Nelson and Dick Van Patten? The film was "Charly."
Mickey Rooney won an honorary academy award "in recognition of his 50 years of versatility in a variety of memorable film performances."
Joe Mantell will always be B+ to me. No, I had never heard of him, though his face is familiar; I guess I was thinking there was some leeway on the date of being B+, it being a "kind of Old Hollywood" blind.
When I think of "old Hollywood" and being part of that I think of pre-1960. The only three actors still alive that won the Oscar and had significant roles before 1960 are Sidney Poitier and Ernest Borgnine and Cliff Robertson. I think Cindy-O is on the right track but I would suggest the B+ actor is Jerry Paris. While Joe Mantell has had dozens of roles in movies and TV he really isn't recognizable. At least enough to say he was B+.
Jerry Paris was neighbor Jerry Helper to Dick Van Dyke on "The Dick Van Dyke Show" and was a respected TV director for many years. Dozens of credits for acting in movies and TV and dozens more for directing.
My guess:1. Ernest Borgnine2. Delbert Mann3. Jerry Paris4. Marty
Maybe it isn't as old as we thing it is…
1. Michael Douglas2. Robert Zemeckis3. Danny Devito4. Romancing the Stone
Dash, I like your thinking. And Jerry Paris is certainly more recognizable than Joe Mantell. But is he even B+ list, ever? That part plagues me…I like Annie's guess–Cliff Robertson, Ralph Nelson, Dick van Patten, Charly. DVP is more B+ than those two.
Richard DreyfussSteven SpielbergTeri GarrClose Encounters of the 3rd Kind
1) Jack Palance2) Ralph Nelson3) Keenan Wynn4) Requiem for a Heavyweight
I couldn't help but think when I read it:
1. Jack Nicholson2. Stanley Kubrick3. Scatman Crothers4. The Shining
The Shining is Jack's most famous role. Everyone quotes "Here's Johnny" because of him, which is hilarious considering where it comes from originally.
From IMDB Trivia: Scatman Crothers was a friend of Jack Nicholson's, and when he heard about the Halloran role, he asked Nicholson to talk to Kubrick about casting him.
ooh! I loves me some Scatman! Especially in The Shining.
That's a good guess. I immediately thought of Jack and Cuckoo's Nest tho. He was mind-blowing in that, and I can see him fighting for that role at that point in his career.. Wasn't James Coco in that? I was thinking him for the B+ guy. I guess I could JFGI
I am SUCH an idiot! I always think James Coco was in that movie…Anyway, lurkerxx, Scatman was also in Cuckoo's Nest w/ Jack. So you had the right friend, wrong movie.
This is a great blind. Thanks Enty!
I had to leave for work, and didn't have time try to figure this one out. I'm not sure if anyone got it right, but I want thank everyone for trying to solve this blind.
Enty and the people that post here make CDAN my favorite website!
Wow, good job everyone. I suck at these old blinds. Ah, to be perfectly honest, I suck at most of them!
Jerry Paris would be a B+ TV actor/ director, because of being on the Dick Van Dyke show and Happy Days, but never a B+ film actor.
As to the Ralph Nelson/Charly/Cliff Robertson guess, considered and thrown away. If this BI was written CORRECTLY, it says:Academy Award winner/nominee directorRalph Nelson was nominated for an AA as producer of "Lilies of the Field" so the blind should have described him as Academy Award winner/nominee director/producer.But what do I know, diddly about most of these, like all of us.If it is Cliff Robertson, very ironic that besides the Oscar for Charly and marrying Miss MoneyBags, he "ratted" out David "Lender's" Begelman
How about?#1: Robert De Niro#2: Michael Cimino#3: John Cazale#4: The Deer Hunter
Cindy-O and dash, I thought Ernest Borgnine as well. One hell of a career. I don't think Jerry Paris quite fits the bill because even though he's gangbusters in tv, he has a spotty movie career. I like lurkerxx's guess of The Shining. That one makes a lot of sense.
I'm liking the Jack Nicholson guess, but I'm more inclined to think the movie is Cuckoo's Nest, with Scatman Crothers–or possibly Christopher Lloyd–as the friend. But, again, the B+ thing is throwing me.
I like Marks guess (Dreyfus/Spielberg/Garr/CE3K) but Dreyfus worked with Spielberg the year before on Jaws so I doubt he would have to pull a stunt like that to get a part in a Speilberg movie.
Truth be told, this blind isn't all that shocking. People have done worse morally questionable things to get a part in a movie than pay some girl to sleep with the director. And an actor talking a director into casting one of his buddies? Happens all the time!
PacinoCoppolaJohn CazaleThe Godfather
or PacinoSidney LumetJohn CazaleDog Day Afternoon
I had also thought of Jack Nicholson, but a different movie – Chinatown.
A+ – Nicholson (3 Oscars)Polanski (1 Oscar)Burt Young (from Rocky and lots of tv)
I was also wondering if Faye Dunaway was the woman. She was definately a similar type of beuty (icey blonde) to Polanski's wife, Sharon Tate, who had died several years later. Polanski had left America after her death and was hesitant to return but Nicholson helped get him back to do the picture. Oscars all round.
Polanski and Dunaway had a famously tempestuous relationship (though no common knowledge evidence of an affair). She refuses to talk about him, he says they got along well before and after filming.
I didn't want to say anything earlier b/c I was mulling it over, but I have been spured on by all the Nicholson guesses. The only problem with this blind is that everyone is alive, why I was hesitant to go forward and therein lies the rub.
Perhaps, there is another B+ actor from the film that someone else can mention.
I also wanted to say that I think that Little Miss Smoke and Mirrors' Pacino/Coppola/Godfather guess run a close second.
Paul Newman Robert WagnerI've heard rumors about these two.And the movie could be either Harper or Winning.
Aly, the "Academy Award winner/nominee director" means two people, the Academy Award winner and the nominee director. The Ralph Nelson guess is a good one since he was only a nominee.
Delbert Mann was a winner, so it's not Delbert Mann and Ernest Borgnine.
Stacia,I guess I need to go back to elementary school for more classes in reading comprehension. So does this mean the actor won his AA for this movie? If so, then this must be Cliff Robertson, Ralph Nelson, Dick Van Patten(solid B+) and Charly.
No matter who these people are, the actor made a shrewd career investment using Hollywood currency. Actor, friend, director, woman of interest–everybody's happy!
This is good timing as I'm currently 2/3's through a biography on Jack…
His close friends: Bruce Dern, Harry Dean Stanton, Warren Beatty…
I wanted to go with:
Chinatown, Jack, Roman Polanski…but I cant figure out the friend angle.
So my guess is
Movie: King of Marvin Gardens:
Director Bob Rafelson – 2 time nominee
Actor Jack Nicholson
Friend (tv and film actor forever_ Bruce Dern
Jack had just done in the previous couple of years, Easy Rider(huge hit) with Dennis Hopper and Peter Fonda, Five Easy Pieces(huge hit) for Rafelson and Carnal Knowledge(huge hit)for Mike Nichols. Do you think that he really had to bribe Bob Rafelson to get the lead role in this very small film. And I am old enough to say that I actually saw this film in a movie theater. Not on tape/dvd. But anything is possible in H-Weird.
Is this the HIV singer?
Paying a woman for sex for a year is something Jack would do, and procuring her for a director in order to get a role? I wouldn't put that past him either. Since one of the comments above ruled out DeVito as he was Michael Douglas' close friend, I'm going with another actor who's been around forever (and already guessed above, too), Christopher Lloyd.
1. Jack2. Milos Forman3. Lloyd4. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Since this is partly Old Hollywood I looked at all survivng actor winners from in the 50s to 80s. Where they won multiple awards I simply show the first decade they won rather than repeat a name.
1950s – Ernest Borgnine
1960s – Maximilian Schnell, George Chakiris, Sidney Portier, George Kennedy, Cliff Robertson
1970s – Gene Hackman, Joel Grey, Robert DeNiro, Jack Nicholson, Richard, Dreyfuss, Jon Voight, Christopher Walken, Dustin Hoffman
1980s – Timothy Hutton, Ben Kingsley, Louis Gossett Jr., Robert Duvall, F Murray Abraham, William Hurt, Michael Caine, Michael Douglas, Sean Connery, Kevin Kline, Danial Day-Lewis, Denzel Washington.
Please note that I have excluded Honorary Oscars inasmuch as the blind says "winner" not awarded an Academy Award.
tony curtisblake edwardsdick sargentoperation petticoat
Oh, wildcat, I like that guess.
Dude, the problem with it being Christopher Lloyd, which I realized after I suggested him, is that he is alive, as are Nicholson and Forman, and someone is dead. If it is Cuckoo's Nest, I think it's Scatman Crothers (who has been dead for sometime and might have qualified as B+ back in his heyday). But I'm in no way convinced that this is it because as Aly says, Nicholson was really established by this time so why would he have to bribe anyone. However, I would imagine Nicholson knew he could give a towering performance as McMurphy, and according to imdb, the role was offered to James Caan, Gene Hackman, and Marlon Brando (and Forman apparently wanted Burt Reynolds) so …maybe.
D'oh! Good catch
Tony Curtis never won an Oscar. Sorry wildcatward and sunnyside.And the rights to Cuckoo's Nest were owned by Kirk Douglas who could never get the financing to portray McMurphy himself, so he handed them off to son Michael. I think when considering the caliber of film Milos Forman has directed and his type of career, that a sex with "dreamgirl" wouldn't sway his casting decisions. Now in another world, if the blind item stated that it was the producer, and not the director of this picture, who was swayed by the great (humma-de-humma-de) then Michael Douglas as the solution would be a lay-down, as it might be termed. Other thing to consider, the blind states that the lead actor gave ALL of his salary on the flick to the woman, how much could that have been? By this time he was a big star.This is after The Last Detail and Chinatown, two films for which he received nominations as best actor in a film. So I would think he'd be receiving a decent salary for the role. On the other hand, Cliff Robertson had a smaller career and he was married to Dina Merrill, so he certainly didn't need the money for starring in Charly.
Ok try this again: a couple comments:if this did not say Director;Michael Douglas was the Producer of 'Cukoo' and this would explain why he gave Nicholson that role,because it has been said his father Kirk was always upset he was not given the award-winning role..
Another Oscar winning actor I could see doing this would be Nicholas Cage though not sure who the others would be..his career started in the early 80's