Friday, August 13, 2010

Four For Friday

#1 #2, #3, #4 - This is kind of Old Hollywood but some of the people are still alive so not a true Old Hollywood item. Anyway, this Academy Award winning (yeah I said it, no nominee/winner) actor who is still alive got one of his most famous roles in a very interesting way. The Academy Award winner/nominee director of the movie had a crush on this woman. Our actor discovered that the woman would take money for sex and paid for her for a year. The actor told the director he could get the woman interested but he wanted the role. He also wanted a role for one of his friends who is been a B+ movie actor and television actor forever. The director agreed and our actor made the introduction. The director had no idea the actor paid for her services. He used his entire paycheck from the movie to pay for her.

#1 - Academy Award winning actor
#2 - Director
#3 - B+ actor
#4 - The movie

92 comments:

cdanluva said...

Kirk Douglas

Missjenny619 said...

Now that's an awesome blind item!!

I gotta wrap my head around this one for a minute then make a guess at it.

Karmen said...

Not Kirk Douglas. He hasn't won an Academy Award. Only nominated.

sunnyside1213 said...

Shoot...Kirk Douglas never won the Oscar.

princessd said...

what about clint eastwood??

JW said...

Robert deniro
Martin Scorcese
Joe Pesci
Goodfellas

MontanaMarriott said...

I like the Kirk Douglas guess since he was given an honorary oscar making him a winner.
The director: Stanley Kubrick
Best friend: Tony Curtis.
Movie: Spartacus

cdanluva said...

Kirk Douglas received a Honorary Academy Award in 1996, therefore he has an academy award.

SittingPat said...

#1 Fredrich March
#2 Stanley Kramer
#3 Harry Morgan
#4 Inherit the Wind

Karmen said...

Oh, snap. I didn't see the honorary Oscar on IMDb. In that case, I'm liking MontanaMarriott's guess.

sunnyside1213 said...
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sunnyside1213 said...

Kubrick was nominated 5 times and won for 2001 Space Odyssey, so I am back on the Kirk Douglas express.

Priscila said...

hmmm

Gene Hackman
Willian Friedkin
Roy Scheider
The french connection??

Problem to solve this blind is that the actor didnt necessarily win his Oscar with this movie...

Priscila said...

and i dont like the Kirk Douglas guess because at the time he work with Kubrick, Kirk was a big name and Kubrick was t the beginning of his career. In fact, Kirk produced Spartacus, so i am not buying..

Pookie said...

wow, juicy...i suck at these...but you guys are good! *loves*

looserdude said...

You guys are doing an awesome job and I have nothing to contribute EXCEPT the B+ actor was a "movie actor and television actor forever". That leaves out, I think, Tony Curtis and Joe Pesci and Roy Schneider. The Harry Morgan guess works, of course.

RenoBlondee said...

So I guess the woman was just a random woman?

Can't wait for all
your guys' guesses at this blind!

Cheryl said...

Spartacus was not the first time Kirk and Kubrick had worked together and SK had been making movies (not huge hits) for a while. Kirk was my first guess and MontanaM filled in the rest.

Shmooey said...

- I consider Tony Curtis Classic A List.

- No idea who this is, just perennially bemused so many women "will take money" for sex.

I guess the actor told her to fake true interest and passion, and never to let slip it was just a job for her.

Tenley said...

Srange. I was thinking Dustin Hoffman in The Graduate or Jack Nicholson in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Don't know why except the roles were such iconic characters and the actors were just young enough to need an incredible break like that.

jujuree said...

Remember, either the friend or the director is dead.

We know the actor is alive and the blind states "some" are alive, implying more than one person.

I guess that could also include the woman.

Aly said...

Jack Nicholson was not at the start of his career for Cuckoo's Nest. Dustin Hoffman was, but he had no pull to get an actor hired as a costar in the Graduate, only his second film role and first staring role.
How anyone could believe that the little putz could talk his way into a role by paying a woman for sex for a year is a putz too. HELLO. And since Mike Nichols was at the beginning of his directing career and rumored to be gay, the woman would not have been of interest to him and he probably didn't have too much pull in getting Hoffman hired and who probably didn't make enough money for this purchase. To pout the kbosh on this whole guess, there were really no beefy male costar roles in that film for the B+ actor.
As to the Joe Pesci/Goodfellas guess, He is not known for TV.
AT ALL.
MY THOUGHTS: I was thinking a pair of actors like Burt Reynolds in his prime when he was A-list and shtupping Sally Field, and Dom DeLuise. Rest his soul.
But Burt Reynolds never won an Oscar. And I am not suggesting that he pimped out Sally Field nor Loni Anderson. But that kind of A-list(at the time)actor for the time with a buddy relationship.
Also remember that some of the players have passed on to that giant casting cumulo nimphet in the sky to shtupp and shtupp until whenever.

Aly said...

ACTOR: MARLON BRANDO
DIRECTOR: ELIA KAZAN
BUDDY: KARL MALDEN
FILM: ON THE WATERFRONT
And according to Shelley(also known as Shirley Schrift)Winters, Marlon was some shtupper. Of course,that is when he wasn't shtupping Wally Cox. But that is a whole other blind item.

ardleigh said...

#1-Burt Lancaster

#2- Fred Zinnemann

#3- Ernest Borgnine

#4- FROM HERE TO ETERNITY

Shmooey said...
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ardleigh said...

Shite never mind Burt is dead!

SittingPat said...

ardleigh, but Ernest Borgnine is not. However, I like what you're pitching. But let's shake it up. How about Frank Sinatra (can't you just see him buying a hooker for a year?) for the pimping actor and Jack Warner for the TV actor. It's kinda iffy because TV was so new at this time. Same director and movie of course. (By the way Ernest Borgnine won Best Actor in 1955)

Cindy-O said...

I like Aly's guess but how about Streetcar Named Desire for the movie (Brando, Kazan and Malden still for the other three) as it comes before On the Waterfront in their work together.

.robert said...

Reaching here:
1. Robert Duvall
2. Robert Altman
3. Elliott Gould
4. M.A.S.H.

Aly said...

ACTOR: BURT LANCASTER
DIRECTOR: JOHN FRANKENHEIMER
B+ FRIEND: TELLY SAVALAS
FILM: BIRDMAN OF ALCATRAZ

Cindy-O said...

Forget what I said, all those guys are dead.

.robert said...

Aly, everyone in the 5:13 post is dead.

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Dave said...

Having thought about this, how about:

1. Mickey Rooney
2. Norman Taurog
3. Gene Reynolds
4. Boys Town

Aly said...

Sorry. I read it wrong. Didn't realize BI stated the Academy Award-winning actor is still alive. Neither Brando nor Lancaster. Shucks.

looserdude said...

Dave, that's a great guess! That sounds like something Mickey Rooney would do.

rtsew said...

1. jack nicholson
2. milos forman
3. danny devito
4. cuckoo's nest
That is my guess and i am entitled to it.

mazemerizing said...

So, #1 won an Oscar (for something and not necessarily Best Actor) and is still alive. His role for this movie was one of his most famous, but not necessarily his Oscar-winning role. And the best friend who was on TV, he could have been on TV AFTER this movie.

So the question is, what old Hollywood Oscar-winning actor has a best friend who started out (or ended up) on TV? I got nothin' except the first one. Maybe somebody else can fill in the blanks.

Michael Douglas/Danny DeVito
Ernest Borgnine/?
Sidney Poitier/?
Cliff Robertson/?
Gene Hackman/?
Jack Nicholson/?
Richard Dreyfuss/?
Jon Voight/?
Dustin Hoffman/?
Robert DeNiro/?
Michael Caine/? (Best Supporting Actor)
Sean Connery/? (ditto above)
Tommy Lee Jones/?
James Coburn/?

Anybody after that might not be considered Old Hollywood.

ardleigh said...

Do any of them have to be dead?

Because if not:

#1-Jeff Bridges (although I hope he has more class)

#2- Peter Bogdanovich -who left his wife for Cybil Sheppard on this movie

#3- Randy Quaid (aka Cousin Eddie)

#4- The Last Picture Show

mazemerizing said...

Also, Mickey Rooney never won an Oscar, only nominated.

Jack Nicholson didn't have to push Danny DeVito, since Cuckoo's Nest was produced by Danny's old roommate and best friend, Michael Douglas. Just sayin'.

This is a tricky one!

Angela said...

To put a permanent end to the Kirk Douglas guesses: Kubrick took over as a director for the movie months AFTER Curtis was cast. Douglas had hired Anthony Mann but they couldn't agree on anything after the first sequence was shot, so he had the idea of going back to Kubrick with whom he had a deal (three movies, beginning with Paths of Glory). Kubrick had just left another project (Brando's "One-Eyed Jacks") and was on set two days later. After that, Douglas and Kubrick fired the lead actress and hired Jean Simmons.

In addition to that, Curtis and Douglas had worked together before, in The Vikings.

The Mickey Rooney guess is a great one and Rooney has so much Hollywood experience that it looks like something he would attempt (and then speak about) to boost his career.

Cindy-O said...

#1: Ernest Borgnine
#2: Delbert Mann (Academy Award winner)
#3: Joe Mantell (did a lot of TV and some interesting movie roles)
#4: Marty

This is not the sexiest of guesses, but I think it adds up.

Aly said...

I thought of that Cindy-O, but in what galaxy does Joe Mantell rate as a B+ movie actor. Does one AA nomination make someone B+? Hello Sally Kirkland? If this is it, ENTY or whoever is ghostwriting these columns didn't write this one very well.

Karmen said...

I completely forgot that Danny DeVito was in One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest. That episode of It's Always Sunny is so much funnier now!

Annie said...

How about Cliff Robertson, director Ted Nelson and Dick Van Patten? The film was "Charly."

looserdude said...

Mickey Rooney won an honorary academy award "in recognition of his 50 years of versatility in a variety of memorable film performances."

Cindy-O said...

Joe Mantell will always be B+ to me.
No, I had never heard of him, though his face is familiar; I guess I was thinking there was some leeway on the date of being B+, it being a "kind of Old Hollywood" blind.

dash said...

When I think of "old Hollywood" and being part of that I think of pre-1960. The only three actors still alive that won the Oscar and had significant roles before 1960 are Sidney Poitier and Ernest Borgnine and Cliff Robertson. I think Cindy-O is on the right track but I would suggest the B+ actor is Jerry Paris. While Joe Mantell has had dozens of roles in movies and TV he really isn't recognizable. At least enough to say he was B+.

Jerry Paris was neighbor Jerry Helper to Dick Van Dyke on "The Dick Van Dyke Show" and was a respected TV director for many years. Dozens of credits for acting in movies and TV and dozens more for directing.

My guess:
1. Ernest Borgnine
2. Delbert Mann
3. Jerry Paris
4. Marty

Mary said...

Maybe it isn't as old as we thing it is...

1. Michael Douglas
2. Robert Zemeckis
3. Danny Devito
4. Romancing the Stone

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Cindy-O said...

Dash, I like your thinking. And Jerry Paris is certainly more recognizable than Joe Mantell. But is he even B+ list, ever? That part plagues me...
I like Annie's guess--Cliff Robertson, Ralph Nelson, Dick van Patten, Charly. DVP is more B+ than those two.

Mark said...

Richard Dreyfuss
Steven Spielberg
Teri Garr
Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind

hobart said...

1) Jack Palance
2) Ralph Nelson
3) Keenan Wynn
4) Requiem for a Heavyweight

lurkerxx said...

I couldn't help but think when I read it:

1. Jack Nicholson
2. Stanley Kubrick
3. Scatman Crothers
4. The Shining

The Shining is Jack's most famous role. Everyone quotes "Here's Johnny" because of him, which is hilarious considering where it comes from originally.

From IMDB Trivia: Scatman Crothers was a friend of Jack Nicholson's, and when he heard about the Halloran role, he asked Nicholson to talk to Kubrick about casting him.

libby said...

ooh! I loves me some Scatman! Especially in The Shining.

That's a good guess. I immediately thought of Jack and Cuckoo's Nest tho. He was mind-blowing in that, and I can see him fighting for that role at that point in his career.. Wasn't James Coco in that? I was thinking him for the B+ guy.
I guess I could JFGI

libby said...

I am SUCH an idiot! I always think James Coco was in that movie...Anyway, lurkerxx, Scatman was also in Cuckoo's Nest w/ Jack. So you had the right friend, wrong movie.

Nosey Parker said...

This is a great blind. Thanks Enty!

I had to leave for work, and didn't have time try to figure this one out. I'm not sure if anyone got it right, but I want thank everyone for trying to solve this blind.

Enty and the people that post here make CDAN my favorite website!

linnea said...

Wow, good job everyone. I suck at these old blinds. Ah, to be perfectly honest, I suck at most of them! :P

Aly said...

Jerry Paris would be a B+ TV actor/ director, because of being on the Dick Van Dyke show and Happy Days, but never a B+ film actor.

As to the Ralph Nelson/Charly/Cliff Robertson guess, considered and thrown away. If this BI was written CORRECTLY, it says:
Academy Award winner/nominee director
Ralph Nelson was nominated for an AA as producer of "Lilies of the Field" so the blind should have described him as Academy Award winner/nominee director/producer.
But what do I know, diddly about most of these, like all of us.
If it is Cliff Robertson, very ironic that besides the Oscar for Charly and marrying Miss MoneyBags, he "ratted" out David "Lender's" Begelman

Aly said...

How about?
#1: Robert De Niro
#2: Michael Cimino
#3: John Cazale
#4: The Deer Hunter

julia childs said...

unsolvable

shakey said...

Cindy-O and dash, I thought Ernest Borgnine as well. One hell of a career. I don't think Jerry Paris quite fits the bill because even though he's gangbusters in tv, he has a spotty movie career. I like lurkerxx's guess of The Shining. That one makes a lot of sense.

Cindy-O said...

I'm liking the Jack Nicholson guess, but I'm more inclined to think the movie is Cuckoo's Nest, with Scatman Crothers--or possibly Christopher Lloyd--as the friend. But, again, the B+ thing is throwing me.

Basil said...

I like Marks guess (Dreyfus/Spielberg/Garr/CE3K) but Dreyfus worked with Spielberg the year before on Jaws so I doubt he would have to pull a stunt like that to get a part in a Speilberg movie.

Truth be told, this blind isn't all that shocking. People have done worse morally questionable things to get a part in a movie than pay some girl to sleep with the director. And an actor talking a director into casting one of his buddies? Happens all the time!

Little Miss Smoke and Mirrors said...

Pacino
Coppola
John Cazale
The Godfather

Little Miss Smoke and Mirrors said...

or
Pacino
Sidney Lumet
John Cazale
Dog Day Afternoon

Fish said...

Hi All,

I had also thought of Jack Nicholson, but a different movie - Chinatown.

A+ - Nicholson (3 Oscars)
Polanski (1 Oscar)
Burt Young (from Rocky and lots of tv)

I was also wondering if Faye Dunaway was the woman. She was definately a similar type of beuty (icey blonde) to Polanski's wife, Sharon Tate, who had died several years later. Polanski had left America after her death and was hesitant to return but Nicholson helped get him back to do the picture. Oscars all round.

Polanski and Dunaway had a famously tempestuous relationship (though no common knowledge evidence of an affair). She refuses to talk about him, he says they got along well before and after filming.

I didn't want to say anything earlier b/c I was mulling it over, but I have been spured on by all the Nicholson guesses. The only problem with this blind is that everyone is alive, why I was hesitant to go forward and therein lies the rub.

Perhaps, there is another B+ actor from the film that someone else can mention.

Fish said...

I also wanted to say that I think that Little Miss Smoke and Mirrors' Pacino/Coppola/Godfather guess run a close second.

The Rhythmatist said...

Paul Newman
Robert Wagner
I've heard rumors about these two.
And the movie could be either Harper or Winning.

Stacia said...

Aly, the "Academy Award winner/nominee director" means two people, the Academy Award winner and the nominee director. The Ralph Nelson guess is a good one since he was only a nominee.

Delbert Mann was a winner, so it's not Delbert Mann and Ernest Borgnine.

Aly said...

Stacia,
I guess I need to go back to elementary school for more classes in reading comprehension. So does this mean the actor won his AA for this movie? If so, then this must be Cliff Robertson, Ralph Nelson, Dick Van Patten(solid B+) and Charly.

Robert said...

No matter who these people are, the actor made a shrewd career investment using Hollywood currency. Actor, friend, director, woman of interest--everybody's happy!

Hello it's me... said...

This is good timing as I'm currently 2/3's through a biography on Jack...

His close friends: Bruce Dern, Harry Dean Stanton, Warren Beatty...

I wanted to go with:

Chinatown, Jack, Roman Polanski...but I cant figure out the friend angle.

So my guess is

Movie: King of Marvin Gardens:

Director Bob Rafelson - 2 time nominee

Actor Jack Nicholson

Friend (tv and film actor forever_ Bruce Dern

Aly said...

Jack had just done in the previous couple of years, Easy Rider(huge hit) with Dennis Hopper and Peter Fonda, Five Easy Pieces(huge hit) for Rafelson and Carnal Knowledge(huge hit)for Mike Nichols. Do you think that he really had to bribe Bob Rafelson to get the lead role in this very small film. And I am old enough to say that I actually saw this film in a movie theater. Not on tape/dvd. But anything is possible in H-Weird.

Aly said...

Jack had just done in the previous couple of years, Easy Rider(huge hit) with Dennis Hopper and Peter Fonda, Five Easy Pieces(huge hit) for Rafelson and Carnal Knowledge(huge hit)for Mike Nichols. Do you think that he really had to bribe Bob Rafelson to get the lead role in this very small film. And I am old enough to say that I actually saw this film in a movie theater. Not on tape/dvd. But anything is possible in H-Weird.

Vicki said...

Is this the HIV singer?

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/08/16/german.singer.hiv.charges/index.html?eref=edition#fbid=UT5rRHK8tGk&wom=false

The Dude Abides said...

Paying a woman for sex for a year is something Jack would do, and procuring her for a director in order to get a role? I wouldn't put that past him either. Since one of the comments above ruled out DeVito as he was Michael Douglas' close friend, I'm going with another actor who's been around forever (and already guessed above, too), Christopher Lloyd.

1. Jack
2. Milos Forman
3. Lloyd
4. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

Daveb said...

Since this is partly Old Hollywood I looked at all survivng actor winners from in the 50s to 80s. Where they won multiple awards I simply show the first decade they won rather than repeat a name.

1950s - Ernest Borgnine

1960s - Maximilian Schnell, George Chakiris, Sidney Portier, George Kennedy, Cliff Robertson

1970s - Gene Hackman, Joel Grey, Robert DeNiro, Jack Nicholson, Richard, Dreyfuss, Jon Voight, Christopher Walken, Dustin Hoffman

1980s - Timothy Hutton, Ben Kingsley, Louis Gossett Jr., Robert Duvall, F Murray Abraham, William Hurt, Michael Caine, Michael Douglas, Sean Connery, Kevin Kline, Danial Day-Lewis, Denzel Washington.

Please note that I have excluded Honorary Oscars inasmuch as the blind says "winner" not awarded an Academy Award.

wildcatward22 said...

tony curtis
blake edwards
dick sargent
operation petticoat

sunnyside1213 said...

Oh, wildcat, I like that guess.

Cindy-O said...

Dude, the problem with it being Christopher Lloyd, which I realized after I suggested him, is that he is alive, as are Nicholson and Forman, and someone is dead. If it is Cuckoo's Nest, I think it's Scatman Crothers (who has been dead for sometime and might have qualified as B+ back in his heyday). But I'm in no way convinced that this is it because as Aly says, Nicholson was really established by this time so why would he have to bribe anyone. However, I would imagine Nicholson knew he could give a towering performance as McMurphy, and according to imdb, the role was offered to James Caan, Gene Hackman, and Marlon Brando (and Forman apparently wanted Burt Reynolds) so …maybe.

The Dude Abides said...

Cindy-O

D'oh! Good catch

Aly said...

Tony Curtis never won an Oscar. Sorry wildcatward and sunnyside.
And the rights to Cuckoo's Nest were owned by Kirk Douglas who could never get the financing to portray McMurphy himself, so he handed them off to son Michael. I think when considering the caliber of film Milos Forman has directed and his type of career, that a sex with "dreamgirl" wouldn't sway his casting decisions. Now in another world, if the blind item stated that it was the producer, and not the director of this picture, who was swayed by the great (humma-de-humma-de) then Michael Douglas as the solution would be a lay-down, as it might be termed.
Other thing to consider, the blind states that the lead actor gave ALL of his salary on the flick to the woman, how much could that have been? By this time he was a big star.This is after The Last Detail and Chinatown, two films for which he received nominations as best actor in a film. So I would think he'd be receiving a decent salary for the role. On the other hand, Cliff Robertson had a smaller career and he was married to Dina Merrill, so he certainly didn't need the money for starring in Charly.

deran said...

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deran said...

Ok try this again: a couple comments:
if this did not say Director;Michael Douglas was the Producer of 'Cukoo' and this would explain why he gave Nicholson that role,because it has been said his father Kirk was always upset he was not given the award-winning role..

Another Oscar winning actor I could see doing this would be Nicholas Cage though not sure who the others would be..his career started in the early 80's

deran said...

Ok try this again: a couple comments:
if this did not say Director;Michael Douglas was the Producer of 'Cukoo' and this would explain why he gave Nicholson that role,because it has been said his father Kirk was always upset he was not given the award-winning role..

Another Oscar winning actor I could see doing this would be Nicholas Cage though not sure who the others would be..his career started in the early 80's

deran said...

Ok try this again: a couple comments:
if this did not say Director;Michael Douglas was the Producer of 'Cukoo' and this would explain why he gave Nicholson that role,because it has been said his father Kirk was always upset he was not given the award-winning role..

Another Oscar winning actor I could see doing this would be Nicholas Cage though not sure who the others would be..his career started in the early 80's

deran said...

Ok try this again: a couple comments:
if this did not say Director;Michael Douglas was the Producer of 'Cukoo' and this would explain why he gave Nicholson that role,because it has been said his father Kirk was always upset he was not given the award-winning role..

Another Oscar winning actor I could see doing this would be Nicholas Cage though not sure who the others would be..his career started in the early 80's

deran said...

Ok try this again: a couple comments:
if this did not say Director;Michael Douglas was the Producer of 'Cukoo' and this would explain why he gave Nicholson that role,because it has been said his father Kirk was always upset he was not given the award-winning role..

Another Oscar winning actor I could see doing this would be Nicholas Cage though not sure who the others would be..his career started in the early 80's

deran said...

Ok try this again: a couple comments:
if this did not say Director;Michael Douglas was the Producer of 'Cukoo' and this would explain why he gave Nicholson that role,because it has been said his father Kirk was always upset he was not given the award-winning role..

Another Oscar winning actor I could see doing this would be Nicholas Cage though not sure who the others would be..his career started in the early 80's

deran said...

Ok try this again: a couple comments:
if this did not say Director;Michael Douglas was the Producer of 'Cukoo' and this would explain why he gave Nicholson that role,because it has been said his father Kirk was always upset he was not given the award-winning role..

Another Oscar winning actor I could see doing this would be Nicholas Cage though not sure who the others would be..his career started in the early 80's

deran said...

Ok try this again: a couple comments:
if this did not say Director;Michael Douglas was the Producer of 'Cukoo' and this would explain why he gave Nicholson that role,because it has been said his father Kirk was always upset he was not given the award-winning role..

Another Oscar winning actor I could see doing this would be Nicholas Cage though not sure who the others would be..his career started in the early 80's