Wednesday, December 21, 2011

Debra Messing & Daniel Zelman Split


Debra Messing & Daniel Zelman make the second couple in two days who have separated secretly and lot anyone know. The couple released a statement announcing they had split earlier this year. I would put it at a touch longer. Several touches longer. It is just harder to tell because the couple still lives together for the sake of their son. You know, just to make sure he always has both parents there. I think they announced the separation so that everyone knows the couple was separated before Debra got her new series, but it is interesting they chose to announce it right before the holidays. I think there will be much more that comes out about this in the next few weeks.

117 comments:

Gina said...

Coke mom!

Patty said...

Me thinks Enty is dancing around a blind reveal!

Vicki Cupper said...

Methinks he is tap-dancing the words "blind reveal" in Morse Code!

Can't wait for Reveal Day!!!!

MISCH said...

It has to be about money if he hasn't moved out.

Beth said...

Not necessarily. He's successful in his own right. He wrote and produced Damages.

Quite frankly, he probably has more of a career in front of him than she does.

blankprincess said...

TOTALLY a reveal! :)

timebob said...

i got excited when I heard this story I was hoping Enty would inch closer to revealing she is coke mom. Which I think he has.

jbdean_79 said...

Yeah, the just to make sure he has both parents there seals it for me.

Rita said...

Simply the way he says: "You know, just to make sure he always has both parents there."

Ha! Why would a kid always need BOTH parents there. I'm pretty sure a NORMAL parent would be left alone with their kid.

Rom said...

I know alot of people here think Debra Messing is coke mom but I honestly find it laughable that they do since a lot of the stories do not match with what Debra Messing has done over the last couple of years.

I know in Hollywood anything is possible and people you would never suspect of doing drugs actually do but...COME ON!!

If Debra was Coke mom, wouldn't her soon to be ex use this as an opportunity to divorce her ass, get half her money, and take custody of the kid instead of continuing to live together even though they've been seperated for months?

Even IF CDAN were to reveal Debra Messing as Coke mom, I still wouldn't believe it because the whole coke mom thing has always sound like a BS story to me.

Unless I see a photo or a video of Debra, or whoever they are accusing of Coke mom being, snorting coke then I won't believe because this is the only site where I have heard such a rumor.

Diane said...

Me thinks she is coke mom too! Me thinks MV is JLo too!

Ms Cool said...

@Rom - Perhaps her husband is a coke dad or doesn't know. Perhaps you are right, though. However, I have always thought it was her.

Seachica said...

What a great Hanukkah gift, enty! I totally believe DM is coke mom, and this is a hooded reveal of it. If Zelman didn't live there, then DM would almost certainly get some visitation rights - which would mean unsupervised visits, in a possibly unsafe house. This way he can make sure the child is living in a safe place, and he (or nannies) are around whenever Coke Mom is there.

Carrie said...

This is now my biggest reason to be excited about reveal day. COKE MOOOOM!!!!!

Rom said...

Can I ask everyone here something? Why in the hell do some of you think Debra Messing is coke mom? Because never once did Debra Messing ever cross my mind when reading these stories.

Even IF CDAN were to reveal Debra Messing as Coke mom, I still wouldn't believe it because the whole coke mom thing has always sound like a BS story to me.

In the tabloid frenzy world we live in, don't you think any other gossip site would jump at the chance to break this story if it were true? Instead you have CDAN posting blind items about it that have lasted for several years which makes me believe that this particular story is fake.

Again: Unless I see a photo or a video of Debra, or whoever they are accusing of Coke mom being, snorting coke then I won't believe it because this is the only site where I have heard such a rumor.

Carrie said...

ROM - are you DM? lol you sure are defensive of her.

It's a gossip site, dear. Take it all with a grain of salt.

Rom said...

@ Carrie: LOL!!! Nah I'm just annoyed that after reading all those blind items, some people settle on Debra Messing for some reason even though some of the "clues" don't match.

But yeah Carrie...I do take it all with a grain of salt.

nunaurbiz said...

@Carrie: My thoughts exactly! LOL

nunaurbiz said...

@Rom: What clues don't match?

Susan said...

This post is too coy for me to be the be-all end-all confirmation that Coke Mom is Debra Messing. We shall see what else gets out in the coming days. Maybe it will be Jan 1 reveal. July 4 had some juicy ones this year.

Rom said...

@nunaurbiz: One of the "clues" that don't match was from earlier this year on July 24 or 26 where CDAN said that coke mom was doing press for a new show the week before which would be the week of July 16 I belive. But here's the thing: Debra Messing did not do any press or public appearances between June 25 and early september so can't be her if the coke mom story were true (which I doubt).

Not to mention that when Debra did press for her new show "Smash"... it was at the end of May during the NBC upfronts and the week of June 6 in Canada. Not in July.

Ms Cool said...

@Rom - I believe that Enty has stated in the past that dates and other details might be fuzzy so as not to be too obvious. Convenient, I know.

linnea said...

Yeah, he has mentioned that a couple of times. Up to you if you chose to believe it, I guess, but that could at least explain it.

The Black Cat said...

I doubt Enty will reveal that DM is coke mom while she is still alive, I'm sure that's a recipe for a lawsuit right there.

*girl said...

@Rom: Actually we found pics and a video from the blind this summer that said she was doing press at the time. And she looked blitzed out of her skull.

You can believe what you'd like. But as a former pretty heavy user, I can always spot when someone is using.

linnea said...

girl - oooh, i remember that now! There was a video of her acting very, very strange

Rom said...

@*girl: Which pics and videos are these? Please provide.

linnea said...

Found 'em!

http://broadwayworld.com/article/STAGE-TUBE-SMASH-Cast-Dishes-at-NBC-Upfronts-20110712

From this blind:
http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2011/07/another-blind-item-coke-mom-returns.html

PM said...

YES, please link to the video.

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Ms Cool said...

@ *girl - did you watch SNL last week? If so, is Michael Buble on coke?

Rom said...

@linnea: Yes I've seen this video and I'm no expert but I saw nothing that would suggest that Debra Messing is on cocaine.

linnea said...

Well, you said that
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"But here's the thing: Debra Messing did not do any press or public appearances between June 25 and early september so can't be her if the coke mom story were true (which I doubt)."

And that video is from July 12, in the time span ENTY was referring to in the blind.

PM said...

buble was completely geeked. (I, also, am an expert on the subject, lol)

& thanks for the link

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Rom said...

@linnea: That video may have been POSTED on July 12 on that website but the event (NBC upfronts) took place at the end of May.

OMAMA is BROKO said...

ok, ok, ok!!!!

NOW this is what lured me to this site. One day I crashed here and became obsessed following the commenters here talking about this supposed "coke mom" with the general concensus being that it was deb messing. NOW, God am I niave because I had no clue (plus coke died for me in the dawn of the new millenium...+ I assumed it was a past drug, with some legal pharm drug surely taking its place) people were still doing the coka.

OK....so, my ramble's point is.....YOU COMMENTERS were right! Because you were calling a divorce coming down the pipeline.

Anyway, I was so stoked to figure out your guys's nail down on the gossip I got all giggitiy and rushed right here to see if there was gloating.

well done.

linnea said...

Rom - I am sorry, I didnt know that. I just thought you wanted the video link from that blind.

Rom said...

@linnea: Even though I've seen that video, I still appreciate you posting it.

Little Miss Smoke and Mirrors said...

Love ya, Enty!

Henriette said...

I think the story on Yahoo is even more interesting. Basically, it says the father has custody of the kid and DM visits.

@Rom maybe you're a tad too invested in DM.

Henriette said...

Oh I forgot to mention their kids'name is "Roman" and it's a "Rom" who keeps such good track of DM.

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Rom said...

@Henriette: LOL!!! Wow really?? The Name "Rom" is a combination of my first and last name...and no my last name isn't Messing LOL! I'll admit that the coincidence is funny and I probably should've chosen a better name but its too late.

The only reason I'm defensive about Debra Messing is because I honestly do not believe she is coke mom nor do I believe that the stories about coke mom are true.

I'm sure in Hollywood, there are some mothers in that industry who are cokeheads but I still do not fully understand why some people here think that coke mom is Debra Messing.

What is it about Debra that makes people think she's a coke addict? Can someone clearly explain that to me?

Domestic Chicky said...

Hmmm...using the term "upfronts" is unusual, even for this lot....

Domestic Chicky said...

Hmmm...using the term "upfronts" is unusual, even for this lot....

mlovesny said...

@Rom. I completely agree with you about debra messing. I have never thought for a second that she was coke mom. I believe that there is a coke mom out there in hwood, but it's not dm. I think the people on here want to think it's dm because they don't think she's a good actress or has any talent. But I disagree. I loved her on will and grace and the wedding date. I don't understand either.

feraltart said...

PM, what's geeked?

Lynette said...

Have to agree, the comment about NBC upfronts is like speaking Martian to most of us here. Maybe it's something in your everyday lingo Deb, I mean, ROM.

Rom said...

@Lynette: Oh man you got me!! You foiled my plans to clear my name! Yes I admit it!! I am Debra Messing!!! Curse You!!!......In case some people didn't understand that...its called sarcasim and if you don't know what THAT means then get a dictionary.

Upfronts...Anyone who goes on legit websites like TV Guide or Entertainment Weekly know what the upfronts are.

(*Sigh*) AGAIN: What is it about Debra that makes people think she's a coke addict? Can someone clearly explain that to me?

Bubbles said...

Rom I agree anyone can figure out what the upfronts are but most industry people, myself included naturally know.

I don't know if DM is coke mom. I like her as an actress, always have and if the years are correct, we were probably at NYU at the same time.
But I will say this, you sound like a publicist or attorney trying to figure out just what the public knows and can tell from videos and pictures because it seems like someone may be trying to prepare for damage control and spin as allegations in the divorce are about to come out. Just saying.

girltrav said...

Bubbles, I COMPLETELY agree with everything you said. Absolutely everything.

shakey said...

Oh Bubbles, I like the way you think.

Love the last line in the post. Hints at a reveal, perhaps?

Henriette said...

@Rom
Maybe we want to believe DM is coke mom? A lot of us also like to believe Tom Cruise is an alien and Beyoncé is faking her pregnancy. Again, so what?

What about Lainey's blinds about DM having gastric bypass to lose her baby weight. I thought that was a far more interesting blind. Maybe you should start emailing Lainey about her thoughts on DM. I'm sure she would love it.

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Rom said...

@Bubbles: Uh What??? Because I don't believe everything that is said on this website and I know what the upfronts are then that means Im a publicist??? REALLY??? That's what you think??

You want the truth? Fine...I like her as an actress. I'm not a major fan of hers but I do like her.

However, if the coke mom stories were to turn out to be true (which I doubt) and Debra was found out to be coke mom then not only would I condemn her but I would come to this website and retract anything I ever said in her defense.

That being said, I am not like a lot of people here who will believe everything they read on the web. Unless I see a photo or video of Debra snorting coke then their is no reason to believe she is a cokehead.

@girltrav: Seriously??

@Henriette: Wow! That's the first I've heard that rumor.

Krystal said...
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Krystal said...

@Rom - We're not mindless idiots who believe everything we read. We take CDAN for what it is: a fun GOSSIP website.

Also, since this is a gossip website, why would you be on here if you need video/photographic proof? Gossip by its very nature is usually lacking concrete proof and the blinds are called 'blinds' for a reason. I think most of us just find it fun to guess and throw around silly ideas. If you're looking for a smoking gun I think you might be on the wrong website.

Wil said...

Oh lawdy! Seem to have stumbled into a mess here!

Well first, I am a fat housefrau stuck in a crappy flyover state and even lowly me knows what an "upfront" is. So .. there's that. Now granted I have had a life of some experience before becoming trapped in this hellhole .. and my ex is an extended relation to a famous actress .. but still .. if you are into "the biz" you likely know this stuff.

Second, as for Debra being Coke Mom .. I never really had an opinion on that. I know there was some disagreement on Coke Mom being either Debra or Angie Harmon .. and there was some deal about Coke Mom having to have nose surgery and it screwing up her nose. I don't see a big diff in either of their noses. [Long time readers can either confirm or deny that rumor .. I am NOT looking through the blog to find it. I am far to lazy to look it up! ; )]

So .. there is that.

Now .. who wants to talk about the horror that is Aaron Paul selling out and whoring vodka next to Piddy!?! I mean, I haven't been this outraged about a vodka ad since I saw the Amber Rose kiddy flavored vodka ad and that had to have been at least a week ago!

Krystal said...

@Wil - your post cracked me up. :)

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linnea said...

Aaron Paul is the sexist thing in Hollywood. I can honestly say that celebs don't really do it for me - 'cept for him. Jeeesus.

Rom said...

@Krystal: Whoa! Whoa! Okay this is getting a little tense. First off, I never called everyone here mindless idiots but if I gave that impression then I apologize.

You are right when you say that this is just a fun gossip website but when an accusation is made (blind item or not) and people are just randomly saying such & such is doing drugs or whatever...For me, I want proof and so far no one has done that in regards to the people who say that Debra Messing is coke mom.

Some people, not all, but some people will just believe anything they read on the web and follow those rumors like sheep. And in this case, some people here who believe that Debra Messing is coke mom without any real proof are sheep.

However, if Debra Messing turns out to be coke mom (which I doubt since I also doubt the coke mom stories are even real to begin with) then I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong. But until then...

Krystal said...

@Rom-No need to apologize! I don't think you intended to be rude. Posting on blogs is always hard b/c you can't hear a person's tone but I get what you're saying. No worries! ;)

MonstersInc said...

Seriously love the CDAN readers, the comments are ALWAYS fascinating. I don't bother commenting too often because I'm not half as knowledgeable about stuff. Merry Christmas to all xxx

Mooshki said...

I believe this video was convincing enough for most of us.

Mooshki said...

Also:

"@linnea: That video may have been POSTED on July 12 on that website but the event (NBC upfronts) took place at the end of May."

But Enty might not have known that. I think he was going by when that video was making the rounds of the gossip sites.

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Rom said...

@Mooshki: I already addressed this paticular video as saying that the dates about a press event that CDAN posted about coke mom being at and the event that Debra Messing actually attended do not match.

The fact that you say that Enty might not have known about the dates pretty much makes my point that not only is Debra Messing NOT coke mom but the whole story is probably fake.

misspoppypants said...

Has someone mentioned already that this itself is a public reveal: Enty posted a blind item recently about a couple living in separate bedrooms, for a while, only for the kids.

Im not invested in the answer but I would NEVER have thought of DM as coke mom, only because she is no longer on my radar. Will someone please explain the clues that have led to such a big consensus or is it already on here above? Its a lot to read on an iphone! Thanks!

misspoppypants said...

@Rom, you may not have said 'mindless idiots' but your vernacular is condescending and slightly hostile--telling people to look up words in the dictionary. You really need to look at your inconsistent posts of vitriol and then retraction. Im sure you'll dump all over my post here..don't care, have at it. I'm calling you out on the obvious. You are giving off a narcissistic vibe. Also, why are you on a gossip site if you are so emotionally invested in people's opinions? Very controlling.

erinsdi said...

@Diane
Who is "MV" and why do you think it is JLo?

Anotheramy said...

Im a fat working woman who reads gossip sites and I have never heard the term upfronts before. I did however walk down the street that SMASH was filming on. They had finished for the day but there were several very nice trucks.
The ugly realities of HW would shock most people. Cocaine is put out in bowls on coffee tables. Snorting to them is no less socially acceptable than a beer is to us poor puritans. CM could be anyone. Its her addiction and her carelessness around the kids that sets her apart.

Lynette said...

ROM: so let's hear your defence of the GMD (Gay Midget Dwarf) as Lainey refers to Tom Cruise. No video available of him as a dwarf, but everything else seems to fit.

On another note, whats with all the deleted posts?

Rom said...

@misspoppypants: Why would you think I would attack you? I already apologized for my attitude. I never wanted to offend anyone but just point out that Debra Messing can't be coke mom. I admit that I lose my cool at times. Again: Sorry for that but my stance on coke mom has not changed.

@Lynette: First: GMD isn't really a good example. And Second: The reason I deleted a lot of posts is simple...grammar errors which is why I delete posts and then post them again in hopes that I corrected the problem.

Elizabeth said...

Wow Rom, your posts have convinced me that DM may actually be coke mom. You do sound like you are trying to do damage control. I don't think I've ever seen a poster here become so invested in the opinions of others the way you have here. And since DM is not that big of a star, you sound personally invested. We'll have to see what comes out of the divorce. Thanks for taking a story I was meh about and making it more interesting.

Alvin said...

anyone notice how the ripped picture on this post resembles a line of coke

B. Profane said...

Speaking of "personally invested," with so many BI's about Coke Mom and all the clues pointing to Messing, you have to assume that Enty or someone associated with CDAN has a very close connection to the principals, either her or the husband. Probably the latter.

Now, if you were Mister Messing's divorce lawyer or entertainment law counsel (which he would need since he's a successful producer), you wouldn't dare leak privileged information about such a case...unless you had your client's permission.

If they're already legally separated, papers have already been filed by the divorce attorney representing the hub, and it might be interesting to see who exactly that is.

nienhulm said...

I'm with @Elizabeth; @Rom's furious defense of DM has me thinking she's CM now too. Methinks he/she doth protest too much. It'll be interesting to see the fallout from this divorce.

Lynette said...

ROM: LOL I didn't realize it was you deleting all the posts, but thanks for confirming that. It's sad that anyone fits the coke mom story, and I also liked DM in Will and Grace, but I wouldn't be checking in here hourly to defend her unless I was personally involved. (Which now I am because you've made it so much fun!)

misspoppypants said...

She said she'd retract if there was any proof, lol! ;) oh well.

Im not a fat housewife (too funny) or a skinny housewife and I'm not ashamed to ask, wth is an upfront? It's not in my American Heritage dictionary. ;)

EmEyeKay said...

@misspoppypants: I don't know, either, and I have friends "in the biz".

Jeesh, I was offline for a two days and CDaN is blowing up! There's so much new stuff, it's taking me forever to get through all the comments. Missed you, Enty.

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Rom said...

@Elizabeth: I answered this already. The reason I'm "personally" invested in this is because I'm a fan and, except for here, I have never heard of any rumour of Debra Messing doing drugs...I've never even heard someone jokingly say that Debra has done drugs.

@misspoppypants: Upfronts are basically an event where networks showcase new shows to advertisers. I watch a lot of E!, Access Hollywood, and Entertainment Tonight which is why I know what that is.

Still no one has really explained why they believe Debra is coke mom when there are other celebrities that could actually be coke mom were this story to be real. I have no desire to comb through the archives of this website so can someone please explain....

LauraM said...

@ROM: OMG who cares if people think DM is coke mom?! aren't people entitled to their own opinions? OK, so You think DM is not coke mom and that the story might be BS, and most of us think otherwise. BIG DEAL. If you don't believe this story to be true in the first place why are you making such a big deal out of it! I'm a fan of DM as well, but I think there's a high possibility she could be coke mom. I'm not gonna go and dig in through all the blind items about her looking for clues. But that is just what I think. Kill me. Again, who cares??? So you think she's not, and most of us think she is. Big deal. Get over it.

Rom said...

@LauraM: The reason I'm protesting this story's legitimacy is because people seem to be randomly coming to the conclusion that Debra Messing is coke mom without any solid proof.

For all I know Debra Messing
could be a cokehead and but until that is proven...I will say that this story is false.

Look!! All I want to know is WHY you and some of the other people her think Debra is coke mom? WHY?

Is that such a hard request? Because so far no one has answered my question.

feraltart said...

I still don't know what tweeked is. Oh well.

linnea said...

Wow, this has gotten so heated!

Rom: I am not sure if anyone has a list of reasons for why they think she is coke mom - it is just a matter of having read all of the blinds and interpreting the clues. I wasn't sure either (nor am I now) but I am leaning towards DM being CM, based on having read all the blinds and the comments. I don't really want to go back and re-read them all... got some Christmas baking to do!

Bubbles said...

So Rom, surely you don't think the existence of a CM is like the Loch Ness Monster? Just a legend. You've got Pam Anderson-been at same parties and events and Brooke Mueller, so there are two for you off that bat.

Now, I first came to stumble upon this site some years back when I saw a little ditty about an HIV positive female pop singer elsewhere in the blogosphere attributed to something called CDAN and I just had to know more. I give that little backstory just to give a bit of history of how long I've been perusing these parts. Now with all that said, yes; you sound like someone in someone's camp fishing for what the public knows; because often what the public knows or speculates might be used as evidence in a round about way, like "look, even people in Peoria and Poughkeepsie knew she was endangering our kid, you can't give her custody".

Now once this story broke about the divorce, you appeared. Now Im sure if you're in anyones camp youve lurked for mentions of CM, maybe commented under another name, perhaps stayed quiet. But you were here seeing what people knew, thought they knew and why they suspected it.
And It's not just liking DM. I liked her in Will and Grace; liked her in the cable series where her producer husband left her, hell you wanna get gangsta with it, I watched her and Thomas Hayden Church every Monday for as long as their show lasted on Fox back in the day and was thrilled when she found success with Will and Grace, im just too lazy to imdb the show, but ya'll know what Im talking about.

Now there have been so many blinds where people here are in general agreement on who the subject might be and never have I seen you here before demanding surveillance video, pap photos; blood samples, DNA, fingerprints, basically the Patrick Henry of gossip; screaming "Give me proof or give me death" and that reads a bit suspect honey.

Perhaps I have an over active imagination, perhaps Im jaded from being in the industry so long, but I know when somethings up and deny all you want, there's more to your vehement defense of La Messing than fandom. And like I said, I like her and hope her new show puts her back on top where she belongs.

That is all!

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girltrav said...

Again Bubbles, Amen.
Rom, quite obviously no one is going to give into your demands as to why DM is or is not CM-since once again this is a gossip site and our sweet community doesn't respond well to threats.
However since you seem to have so much time to respond to everyone's nice requests to prove them wrong and are "personally" invested, I suggest you do your own research and look up the old blinds.
And yeah. Seriously.

Rom said...

@Bubbles: So because I am defending her...you came to the conclusion that I have a suspicious motive for it. No disrespect dude but that's sad.

The reason I came here was that about late October, I was googling Debra's new show Smash to see if there was any new news about it.

In the comments section on one of the websites...someone said "ITS COKE MOM!!!"...At first I laughed but out of curiosity I googled "coke mom". As I was typing Coke mom in the google search box...one of the suggestions said "coke mom debra messing" so I clicked on that and that led me here.

The first coke mom story I read was one called "Coke Mom Returns" which is one the example I gave when I said that the dates don't match. From then on I read more blind items and I was surprised to see the comments section here where a lot of people here just came to the conclusion that Debra Messing is coke mom. And I couldn't understand why.

All I am asking is why do people here think debra is cm. Because, I just don't see it. I admit that I am a bit biased for Debra but if someone here can offer me a reall explanation as to why some people here think Debra is CM then I might change my mind but no one here has done that yet.

@girltrav: Huh?? What threats??? I've never threatened anyone and how could I? I don't like that some of you are seeing me as a villian of sorts. I'm not looking for trouble...I'm honestly just trying to find out why you guys think this woman is coke mom.

I'll make you guys a deal: If someone just clearly explains to me why some people here think Debra Messing is coke mom then I won't respond here again. Fair?

linnea said...

Alright, here you go: Karmen was nice enough to post links to all the CM blinds a while ago. Go back, look at them, read the comments and you will know why people think it is her:

Karmen said...

I posted this on the last Coke Mom BI.

Here are the other appearances of Coke Mom:
First Appearance
http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2009/02/todays-blind-items_25.html
Second Appearance
http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2009/04/todays-blind-items_13.html
Update
http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2009/04/todays-blind-items-from-accountant_15.html
Third Appearance
http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2009/06/todays-blind-items_03.html

Enty's first description of her in the first BI:
"She is a B list television actress with A list name recognition who would probably kill her child to get into movies."

"

misspoppypants said...

@Rom, I dont think you are an industry spy. That theory above is fun and well thought out, but in my humble opinion a little far fetched.... could be wrong...
My question to you is, why do you keep deleting your own posts? There are roughly 10 now.
I think you are coming off as addicted to stirring the pot on this one because of your incessant posting. I, too, am curious about why people think it's DM. However, objectively speaking you are soooo coming off as emotionally invested. I'd totally dump this post if I didn't care. Plus, you did refer to people as sheep WITHOUT knowing what the alleged facts were. You have no basis for your opinion, either, perhaps less, because you don't know the clues. I have no opinion BECAUSE I dont know the
'facts'. As far as being sheep is concerned, that could be said of every single strongly held belief involving all the blinds, which begs the question, why are you on here? Also, do you really enjoy gossip sites? Because they are just mindless fun for analytical people.

misspoppypants said...

DM has been in at least one movie; it was really well done, too, about a bridesmaid or something similar who hires an escort (Dermot Mulrooney.) Does that negate the kill her own child to get into the movies part? And how many kids does she have--which leads me to the next question: was that Enty quote posted before or after she had a second one? Just curious.

B. Profane said...

As I recall, it was well known that Messing was trying very hard to leverage the success of W&G into a film career during the series run, but only managed to land one lead role and the flick wasn't a hit.

misspoppypants said...

No, it wasn't a hit, in fact it may have even gone straight to video. It got good reviews but I found it by accident.

Elizabeth said...

Are you talking about The Starter Wife? I actually own it. It's a good treadmill movie because it's long and you don't have to keep changing the disk. I like DM fine, liked W&G, etc. and the story of an actress with cocaine was hardly news breaking. Rom has made it more interesting since her obsession makes it seem like it could figure in the divorce.

Sue Ellen Mishkey said...

@feraltart

Geeked out is when you are out of your fucking mind on drugs.

B. Profane said...

@Elizabeth -- No, The Wedding Date. That's her only film in which she's had the lead role. She's been willing to take a lot of second banana roles in order to get film work but none of those have been hits either.

She really does fit the desperate-to-get-into-films hint but no luck at it.

misspoppypants said...

Starter Wife was Lifetime miniseries, no? Yes to the Wedding Date.

misspoppypants said...

Bravo to whoever saw the tear in the photo as a line of coke. Thats exactly what it looks like. Are other break up pictures on CDAN graphically distorted like this? Best clue observed so far, very observant.

The Black Cat said...

Let's not forget DM was Richard Gere's wife in The Mothman Prophecies also.
In Rom's defence (sort of) I never understood why so many of you thought DM was Coke Mom either, I started reading the blog after the first posts so I was in the dark too.

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Rom said...

@misspoppypants: LOL!! The reason I have alot of deleted posts is because I make a lot of spelling mistakes and delete the posts to correct them.

Anyway, I read the other blinds (thanks to linnea for reposting them) and even thogh I don't believe coke mom is real...the blinds were too vague to say that Debra Messing could be coke mom. I don't know who CDAN is referring to but there are bigger "B-List actress with an A-List name" actresses out there than Debra.

Debra has been in alot of movies and the blinds say that coke mom is trying to break into movies. That's saying that coke mom has never been in film and is trying to be so that should rule out Debra Messing. Whether Debra's films were successful or not is irrelavent.

Besides, The Wedding Date (a so-so film) did okay at the box office. It wasn't by any means a box office smash but it did okay. I went to Box Office Mojo and its says that on a $15 mil budget...it made $31 mil domestically and another $15 mil worldwide for total of 47 mil. Not bad considering its budget.

Lynette said...

Box Office Mojo? That's right up there with upfronts for me. Never heard of either. And funny, most of us don't repeatedly refer to a celebrity by her first name (five times in the above post), or delete our posts for spelling -- we freaking read them first before hitting publish. Heck, there's even a preview button on my screen option.... You're coming off a little cokehead style yourself their Rom darling. Would you like to debate MV?

Elizabeth said...

Rom, they gave you the links and the rationale, I thought you were going to not post again if they did?

Rom said...

@Lynette: Really? What movie fan doesn't know what Box Office Mojo is. Come on now...you guys make it seem like your ignorant to the rest of the internet. I'm really quick to respond to posts that I really don't double check my spelling like I should. No big deal.

@Elizabeth: (*sigh*) You know what? You're right I did say that but I meant that to this paticular post. I won't post HERE again but if a new coke mom story pops up...you might hear from me again but as for this paticular post...I'm done. Believe what you want but I'll say it again: Unless I see a mugshot photo of Debra Messing...I won't believe she is coke mom.

One more thing....the original blind item says that coke mom was in one the biggest TV shows ever...instead of Debra....has anyone ever thought of Courteney Cox of Friends being coke mom?

Just thought I leave with that.

B. Profane said...

"Get into films" by CDAN/Hollywood standards means getting lead roles, especially if you are trying to make the jump from lead on a hit series.

2X over gross is breakeven by Hollywood standards. Not a disaster for your first lead role but not great. Point being she got no more leads after that. She had her shot, failed, and continued taking downmarket film roles in order to keep working in movies. That's a sign of desperation. She had to go back to TV to get work of her W&G stature again.

Besides fitting the BI clues, there are other reasons to think Messing is Coke Mom. She's manic even out of character, uber-thin even after pregnancy and, most of all, her spotty, downmarket career after W&G wrapped matches the pattern you see with actors with known drug problems. Who does TV movies after starring in a hit series?

And, interestingly, her career really tanked right after the BI's appeared. Lessee, her big return to network TV tanks after her series is cancelled winter 2008. Maybe she relapses into blow, resulting in horror scene of coked-up kidlet. Hubby takes kid away, possibly files for separation, possibly hustles her into rehab. All done as quietly as possible, but word gets around anyway and, bingo, first Coke Mom BI hits CDAN in Feb, 2009. After which Messing's career goes off the radar for a couple years.

Conjecture, but timing fits.

Rom, you are a paid sockpuppet for DM. No one goes to such lengths unless they're getting paid.

B. Profane said...

If you doubt that DM has flacks working the fan boards to shoot down rumors and pump her up, check out her IMDB board. Her biggest fan there, the one that works overtime shooting down the CM rumor, just happened to register and start posting in March of 2009. What a coincidence!

Elizabeth said...

B. Profane, nice find on the IMDB page. And notice how Rom said her return would be dependent on DM as CM mentions? On a mission that one; paid flack indeed.

Yenni said...

Im new here so I've only go by what Ive read here. While I dont really believe that DM is the Coke Mom that everyone thinks she is, anything is possible especially in Hollywood. For all we know, Reese Witherspoon could be doing lines of cocaine with Jennifer Aniston, Tina Fey, Kate Winslet, and Chelsea Handler at this very moment.

@Rom: You say you dont believe that DM is coke and that you want to see proof of that, fine Im with you on that one but calm down its just a gossip website dude not CNN. If you dont believe DM is coke mom then okay just say that and move on.

While I honestly dont think your a paid flack like the previous posters have said because defending your favorite actor/actress doesnt mean you know them or paid by them so I wont even go there. But you do seem like an obsessed fan who thinks that Debra Messing can do no wrong and is somehow a saint in your eyes.

misspoppypants said...

@Rom, again with the insufferable narcissism. Who gives a shit what Box Office Mojo is? Im glad you got a chance to exalt yourself, yet again, by proclaiming that you have achieved a knowledge of something, of which others are still *sigh* ignorant. No one is impressed by your self congratulatory posts. Buzz words and arrogance make you seem like an insecure harpie with a media addiction who has delusions of being so deeply entrenchenched in the industry that we are all waiting for you to call her Deb Deb now. Sigh, go Rom, get a real job. You must be getting paid by the post. Also your last post featured the word 'your' in place of the correct version, 'you're.' I'm just validating your own concerns about your spelling travails. This has been one of the most entertaining non blinds here. And I don't give a crap if my fingers slipped on my touch screen, so you won't see deleted posts or apologies out of me!!!

Lynette said...

Oh Miss Poppy Pants, you make me smile every time with your perfectly worded retorts to ROM. Thank you and Merry Christmas!

Anotheramy said...

I think this is the greatest post ever since Edna Bambrick tried to police the internet!