He has no case there. Because they were officially married, the ring is her property. Had they never made it down the aisle, he could get it back. I was scolded by my jeweler for giving back mine when I got divorced.
Agree – she went through with the marriage, she gets to keep the ring. Although since she wants an annulment, it might show some class to give it back.
Wait, KimK showing class? Sorry – I wasn't thinking.
I read somewhere that Kim made sure to put in a clause in their pre-nuptial agreement that she would keep the ring no matter what.
I still can't believe they're not divorced yet.
she probably paid for the ring!!!!!!!! he should cut his loosses- or probably his gains- and walk away before fhe makes a fool of himself.. And I am no Kim fan, just this is how I see it.
@Susan – HE's actually the one that wants the annulment. His family is pretty religious, and he does not want a divorce for that reason. Allegedly.
I personally thing Jay-Z doesn't like Kim at all because we all know Beyonce isnt a fan (that awkward video of them from that music award show) and in a weird way I think that Jay-Z hiring Kris was kind of a slap in the face to Kim.
@Caitlin, normally I'd like your theory, however Kris played for the Nets before getting mixed up with Kim. And, Jay-Z has only a minute stake in the team. He's basically there to get his name on it, but he has little control over who plays. So, when Kanye wrote "Theraflu" and made that dig about letting Kris stay on the team, it's inaccurate.
His parents just recently got divorced (there's was quick) so I don't think his annulment is due to religion (even if he says it is) its more likely the non-disclosure agreement that goes away if the marriage never happened per annulment. If there is a divorce the non-disclosure remains intact because its part of their prenuptual agreement. GASP… I am sorry I know all this:(
I didn't know that Kris was phrom a super religious phamily…goodness, I've had BM's that lasted longer than their marriage. How aphful would it be to be known as the phool who married Kim?
Jay-Z has no say over who's in the team, he's just a small shareholder. Kris Humphries family can't be too religious as apparently his parents are divorcing. I think the whole Kim/Kanye looks fake but don't really understand why Kanye would bother with it, he was fine without her. Does anyone have any proof that it's fake?
I thought she said she'd pay him back for the ring…
If the marriage is annulled, then it never happened. Which means the ring is NOT an engagement ring, therefore he gets it back. The rules change when it's an annulment.
I don't believe that at this stage his parents would ever be granted an annulment. They were married for a long time, and have two adult children. To convince the church/whatever that one of the parties entered into the marriage fraudulently (I'm summarizing), would be pretty tough. Think of it as buying a defective product. If you've used something for 20 years, you can't really go back to the manufacturer and say, "HEY YOUR PRODUCT IS GARBAGE!"
My husbands parents obtained an annulment 20 years post divorce despite a 10+ year marriage and two kids. MIL was a sport about it.
Kris didn't hit him in the face, he hit him in the shoulder. Man up.
Why doesn't she just agree to the annulment? It would free her from the handcuffs. It's not like anyone respects her so it certainly wouldn't tarnish her "brand". I gets her out of this mess faster so she can move on to the next fake wedding. I wonder what Kris knows that she is afraid of. And eve though she doesn't legally have to return the ring it would seem like a good thing to do, regardless. She can't possibly need the money, although at the rate she spends I have to imagine that she won't be rolling in it ten years from now.
@Vera – Good to know! I didn't think it was possible. How were they able to pull that off?
Well according to the prenup kim was supposed to pay to keep the ring. I guess if he proves fraud it voids the pre nup and voids the marriage therefore the ring being her property after the marriage thing would also be voided.
I think he just wants to prove how low of a person she is. I don't think he's that smart and hates how bad she played him.
Also yeah jay z owns less than 1/15th of one percent of the nets.
he deserved that whooping after hitting the celtic guy so hard that he fell backwards.
Remember when one of the Kennedy's tried to get an annulment? Can't remember which one, but I think it was the one who's exwife just died, Mary Kennedy maybe? Her ex husband. They tried for an annulment and I was surprised since they had kids and had been married for so long. I don't know what happened, so I have no ending to that story.
Why would he want the ring back? God only knows where it's been. Gak.
Yeah I remember he played for them.. I remember Kim wanted to move to NJ! LolAnd really?! I thought Jay-Z was the one who put the Nets in Brooklyn. I was confused haha
Ted Kennedy successfully got an annulment from his first wife Joan when he wanted to marry his 2nd wife in the Catholic faith. His annulment was granted despite the fact that Joan opposed it claiming it made their children illegitimate.
His parents divorced. Quickly and quietly. Unlike their son.
I'm just happy this is making the plastic pig's life miserable.
If I was Kim, I'd give him the ring back and pay him whatever it costs to keep him quiet and away from me–you know, like Tom Cruise does with his ex-wives. Say what you want about him, but he does know how to do that divorce thing cleanly, quickly, and quietly. There's a lesson there, methinks.
Shouldn't he ask for his balls back first?
For Catholics, they're not talking about a legal annulment of the marriage but one granted by the church, which has very different grounds.
@Agent – That's AWESOME! It's not awesome that you got hurt, but how you got hurt is so cool! My BF will be super jealous.
I think Kris has said he's not caving on this because he wants her to have to admit that she's a liar and a fraud. He wants her to have to admit that he was conned. And I think he physically wants the ring back, because he just doesn't want her to have that for her collection. I think he just wants her and her whole circus of a family outed. And if that's the case, I applaud him and wish him Godspeed.
Oh you deleted your story
Annulments can go quickly if both parties agree to them. My first (childless) marriage was annulled. He married wife #2 in the church, don't know where he married 3 and 4
Maybe he should have thought about that before he married the dim heffa. You have to pay to play in the big leagues, and he paid to marry one of the biggest ho's in the game. Don't expect any money back guarantees when you marry a whore. Come on man!
Agreed w/ general consensus here. If they divorce Kim keeps the ring; if it's annulled then Kris gets it back.
Something tells me that Kardashian is playing the any-publicity card, and that m/b why she's dragging it out.
P.S. – speaking as a basketball fan for 30+ years, that foul was hardly vicious, and Rondo's reaction was, in a word, overreaching. I didn't see the whole game, just this clip about 30 secs ago, and at the very least Rondo's looking at a suspension for throwing punches. God, I hate bench brawls in basketball.
Amber, I think you're so right. I think he wants her to admit she's a fraud. Honestly, I can't blame him for standing firm on this (if it's really the case). Good for him. Maybe he'll be the (fill in the blank for a little guy who brought down a giant) in the Kartrashian Kartel!!
Their divorce has been longer than their marriage.
she doesn't want the annulment because she'd probably have to pay back all her wedding endorsements etc.
That and as someone else said- she probably lost or pawned the ring!
I hope Kris H draws this out as long as possible … let it be a thorne in her big fat ass for a very long time. Team Kris!!!!
Jay-Z owns a teeny tiny little share of the Nets. He is not making personnel decisions. I wouldn't say Kris Humphries works for him. He was probably invited to invest in the team and given an ownership interest to serve as a public face of the team. As for Kris wanting an annulment for religious reasons, you can get legally divorced and obtain an ecclesiastical annulment from your church. One has nothing to do with the other. He is simply trying to annoy and embarrass her publicly by prevailing in his quest to have the marriage declared a fraud (one of the legal grounds for annulment). If he wants an annulment for religious reasons, he's going about it the wrong way (though it's clear that is not why he is seeking one. He wants the marriage publicly declared a fraud.)
Umm chris does not work for jay z. Jay owns less than 1%. Please stop saying that all the time. Everyone knows jayz is only a pawn to attract players and publicity. On another note I love rondo and do not appreciate kris laying hands on him even though its obvious rondo would totally win.
If the non-disclosure agreement is void due to an annulment, maybe he wants to write a book, or sell information about the K-douches as revenge for being conned. Plus he'd get the ring back.
I just love how he's effn' with her.
I thought it was established she had the ring (and wore it in some photos) before she even met Kris? I seem to recall a story about this in Us magazine. Don't judge. My daughters' school has a magazine sale fundraiser and I have to subscribe to trashy rags. It's for the kids!
Well he has dug his heels in deep, maybe he will get the lastlaugh.
I love Kris Humphries because he is beautiful and tall and dark and has a wonderful voice. I'm also glad he isn't soiling himself with that weird urine-catcher, who has sunk to Kanye levels of filthiness. Whatever he does is fine with me. I love that young man.
Kris is accusing Kim of fraud. If he were successful in proving it, he would have grounds to get the ring back.
She probably wears it as a toe ring. Nasty.
@Barton Fink said… "I love Kris Humphries because he is beautiful and tall and dark and has a wonderful voice. I'm also glad he isn't soiling himself with that weird urine-catcher, who has sunk to Kanye levels of filthiness. Whatever he does is fine with me. I love that young man."
The one who tried his best to smear a young woman he was going out with while still being married? *shrug* You want to fuck him, that's OK, why bring love into this?
Well, Tatyana, that was pretty. Thanks.
Kris has more sh*t to spill. Like a copy of pimp mama Kris diary of plot to marry bball star and have a fake wedding for ratings for their show.
He also paid someone on the film crew for the filming schedules for the set up all the shams of the show that involve him and the producers and the Kardashians did to him. That's why he wants an annulment.
Oops! I've said too much.