I'm sick of hearing about how "kids are off limits". If you don't want dirty laundry aired, then well, get off Reality television.
When you go on reality tv, you have to know that your secrets could be revealed. You kind of get what you sign up for…
OH, and if you don't want naked pictures of yourself on the internet, stop emailing them to other people.
I was also wondering if they might not be hers biologically even if she did use a surrogate.
I'd say the kids know now. If you don't want your secrets coming out, don't go on reality tv! And if you really don't want anyone to know, don't tell anyone! I also wondered if maybe they weren't her bilogically.
So was she in seclusion for nine months at a time? Nobody knew she used a surrogate? Really? These Bev Hill broads make the Jersey group look sane.
Enty, I hope you're not going to get sued.
I have how Bravo aired this week's epi. It irks me to no end. It just leaves so many holes in the story. Adrienne must have threatened a lawsuit over it, so I'm surprised they put any of this in the show. Now, there's crazy speculation all over the Internets. Can't wait to see how Bravo addresses this. I would think viewers would ask on WWHL.
Brandi needs to learn that she doesn't always need to say or Tweet everything single thing that comes into her mind. I want to like her but she has the maturity of a 12 year old.
Ugh. Horrible people.
The kids are directly affected here by what is being said because like Onyx said, maybe the children don't know they used a surrogate or worse, aren't biological.. That could be quite traumatizing to find out through TV. In Kim's case, I'm pretty sure the kids knew their mom was a raging alcoholic.
They mute it out because as I understand Bravo was also named in the suit.
And really if you have secrets and do not want them getting our, keep your ass off of reality tv.
I hate how Bravo aired the epi. Sorry for typo.
Thats why people should keep their big mouths shut when it comes to anything with children
She's so pulled, nipped, tucked, and Botoxed, how can you tell she's angry?
Who gives a shit? I watched, the episode, and Brandi is a POS for telling everyone. If Maloof wanted to keep it under wraps, let her. It's her private business. I think it is shitty not to tell their children, and ridiculous to lie and say you carried them, but different strokes.
I honestly don't see why people are acting as though this is something horrible. She lied about her private life, something even non Housewives do at times. I don't even like Maloof, but I'm in her corner on this one.
So we all know by now that she used a surrogate. But what I want to know is did she fake both pregnancies? Did she wear fake baby bumps both times? Otherwise why would this be such a big deal? Because if she fake-waddled around Beverly Hills with a prosthetic bump, I could see how she would be mad that people found out. And I think it's hilarious!
Um, the kids won't care if they were born via surrogate. The better question is why in the heck did Adrienne/Paul tell Brandi?!?!?
Maybe Bravo showed the tiniest bit of decency and muted the audio because it was completely about children? Kim being an alcoholic wasn't as directly related to children. Now I'm happy they muted it bc they had no choice but to air the fight bc it was so huge and is needed to answer our questions about the aftermath at the reunion.
mrknowitall – Exactly! I wonder if Brandi is friends with surrogate or something like that. I would love to know how she knows.
They have a chef who is buddies with one of Brandi's friends. I think that is how she got the info. Hopefully they fired the chef.
@vicki, i was just about to say — she's so angry because she looks like that.
katsm0711 – I don't think Bravo gives a shit about the children. Look at all the awful shit they aired about Joe Giudice and his alleged relationships. That's got to have an impact on their children. Ditto for Kim's issues. No matter how old you are, I think seeing these things about your parents is hard. Just my opinion.
I agree, Susan. I love Bravo reality shows, but I think Andy Cohen is a piece of shit.
so what happened with the 'lawsuit?' if this is true, they can't win a lawsuit, and i've read nothing about it. has anybody?
Meh, who cares really? Like others have said, you can't be on reality TV and expect the dirt to stay hidden.
But what is with all this "exclusive" business? You're sounding like Roger Friedman (*exclusive, *I told you first).
Isn't the bigger issue that the parents are putting this out there themselves?
I would be angry too if I had to wear that disco mess of a dress.
Well in this case, they did not put it out there. Brandi is friends with a sleezy guy, who happens to be a friend of the chef at the Maloof home. I am guessing this is how she got the information. She then told others, and now we all know.
While some blogs were saying she used a surrogate for awhile, I don't think it would've made waves in the gossip pool, since Maloof is pretty much wallpaper on the show.
Yeah… I'd be curious to see what the lawsuit says. IANAL, but Paul was all screeching about slander and defamatory speech. A key point of which is that the thing said must not be true. I think it has to be something deeper. With them knee-deep in divorce issues now, and the part where Brandi said "oh it can get much worse" at the end there? I think the surrogacy bit is just the tip of the iceberg. Wondering if maybe last season's jaw dropper about marital infidelity that Brandi casually mentioned in the season finale might not indicate that the surrogate was "implanted" the old-fashioned way?
Don't make Adrienne angry! You wouldn't like her when she's angry!!
Bravo was told they had to edit it out by Adrienne's lawyers. Brandi isn't allowed to talk about it either, but apparently she and Paul are buddy-buddy now that Adrienne and Paul are dunzo.
Wasn't Adrienne the one who pulled Brandi in to the show? I thought last year she referred to her as one of her BFFs? Maybe Brandi was friends during the pregnancies.
I think the entire thing was blown up solely to add drama to an otherwise boring season.
I think it's interesting the Paul and Brandi are friends now but Paul and Adrienne are divorcing.
I find the Brandi/Lisa alliance the most likable and Adrienne a big mess with bad shoes and scary lip liner. I think whatever Brandi said, it was true and that's why Adrienne is angry. Brandi can be like a toddler with lit fireworks sometimes but I still like her.
@ Rain – Adrienne and Brandi allegedly had a friendship (manufactured by Bravo) in order to introduce Brandi to the show, which makes NO sense because they hardly run in the same circles.
The IMDB message boards immediately were alight with posts about surrogacy so it was no secret. Someone posted something about Adrienne having the ways and means ($$$) to live elsewhere during the showing months of her pregnancy.
The reason I think she's so angry? I think EVERYTHING stems from Lisa's popularity. She's jealous. Adrienne wants to be a cold sphinx and yet be Ms Popular. Ain't gonna happen.
I think Lisa moved to get away from Adrienne.
Huh I thought Brandi said something about Paul and Adrienne beating their children. This doesn't seem like as big of a deal to me.
I'm a big fan of Brandi, but she is really hard to defend in this situation!I also don't understand why Adrienne and Paul would be SO angry, true or not true. It really doesn't matter how your children are born its raising them that matters. Maybe they used donor eggs as well? Still not a big deal, but its definitely not Brandi's place to announce it on RHOBH. Brandi is so messy lately; this and the whole Leann Rimes twitter fights. I hope Brandi is in a better, more peaceful place.
Considering that people immediately started talking abut the fact that the surrogacy was what was bleeped out, apparently the whole thing was one of those 'open secrets' that everyone already knew. I just find it so rich that a couple that's playing child abuse allegations out in the press is freaking out over this reveal.
And seriously, if you're keeping a big secret that you don't want everyone to find out about, don't go on a reality show.
At least she's not wearing that ridiculous gold hair(neck)lace thing anymore. Gawd I hated that!And Paul looks like a creepy turtle to me.
Season one, I really like Adrienne. Then that awful reunion happened where she started attacking Lisa. I think Brandi's actions definitely have to do with protecting her mama bear. Adrienne is clearly doing this show for fame. (She has enough $$). That approach is definitely turning on her. I've heard she's not coming back next season and I'm glad.As far as Branding saying she used a surrogate. It makes sense! Adrienne was over 42 when all her children were born if her age really is 51. If she had responded with 'we did what we had to to have children and its no ones business'. It would have been a lot less bitchy. She seems very law suit happy.
Remember last season when most of us were in love with Paul? He seems like such a douche now after he got all mad at Lisa for calling his dog "Crackpot" and then the Maloof Hoof non-insult. He's just a wimpy guy who tries to look big and important.
I learned from Elaine not to drink especially peppermint schnapps if I'm holding a secret. So don't go on a reality show if you're also holding one.
Katso yes! As I was watching last night I kept thinking "What happened to Paul?" He went from sweet abused Paul to butthead in record time. How did that happen?
And Kim? She could not wait! Remember, Kim is the one that hid Brandi's crutches. She smiles and sticks the knife in at the first opportunity and Brandi always provides the opportunity. I thought Lisa's motherly talk to Brandi last week was so accurate when she told Brandi, "What you said was a GIFT to them". I really like how Lisa helps Brandi see sometimes.
Yeah, Kats. I don't understand why she is so mad about the Maloof Hoof. I though it was funny and harmless but she got so darn mad about it!Team Lisa and Brandi all day long.
did anyone else see the commercial for the new spinoff about lisa vanderpump's restaurant. yikes.
@wrekehavoc Ugh those young beautiful people look VILE.
seriously. i'm not even sure i have the stomach to watch it.
my other question, and maybe this is one for you legal eagles out there: when adrienne and paul were sputtering out threats on the show the other night, they were talking, if i am not mistaken, about suing brandi for slander. if there is evidence that what brandi spoke was actually true, then there'd be no grounds for a suit, right? you can't sue someone for saying something if they are speaking about facts, correct? or did i snooze through that portion of law 101? (and yes, i will go back to lurker status soon, lol.)
I think this will make the divorce proceedings for those two very interesting, and beneficial to no one. On the other hand, keep your mouth shut if you don't want your secrets know. I'm pretty sure we all learned that in kindergarten, and I don't feel sorry for them if it gets out.
Did anyone else notice Taylor freaking out once Paul started losing it on Brandi?
@amber yeah they showed her face looking upset and then they inserted her interview where she said how upset it made her. I'm still undecided if she really gets upset at seeing arguments or if she's looking for sympathy. Her grifter past is why I have a hard time believing anything from her, even if she was definitely abused. Who knows!
I have heard this story since BH started, if it's true, I don't see how Adrienne thought she could keep it from her kids–it's been printed on a lot of sites.
The part I can't understand is Adrienne called it as "character assasination"–how is that an option if what Brandi is saying is true.
And now we know Adrienne does lie–look at the abuse stories, etc that she used against Paul when they separated–the court investigated and overruled it.
I still feel sorry for their kids–if this is true and they were never told and now it's on tv–as well as how they were dragged into their parents fights.
EXACTLY!! You know what you're getting yourself into
These people sign up for these shows because they are greedy, narcissistic and want the fame and money. They don't give a damn about how it'll affect their children and I doubt they even think about the their secrets coming out. I feel bad for the kids, all the parents care about is themselves and their image but it is what it is. It's barely even gossip news worthy, these people are douchebags like that's such a shock? But it is amazing the things people will do, and their reasons for doing them.
Amber, the grifter might have had a "private session" with the Doc.