Friday, June 07, 2013

Rock Hudson & His Wife

The Hollywood Reporter has something very special this week. It is an actual transcript between Rock Hudson and his wife Phyllis Gates. She had hired a private detective to record a conversation she had with Rock about his homosexuality and the transcript of the recording was in his files. It is some really interesting stuff.

She starts her talk with Rock by saying that he should be able to grow out of it and that he is just freezing emotionally. She then discusses how she and Rock have sex. She said that when the two of them have sex he does it with great speed. Rock replied, "Well, it's a physical conjunction [SIC]. Boys don't fit. So this is why it lasts longer."

She then said she knows he has been picking up boys from off the street and bars and Rock denied it, but it is probably true since the private detective had seen him do it.


30 comments:

Roman Holiday said...

Wow, slow news day today huh?

Aly said...

I don't get this post. She was the secretary/assistant to his manager/agent. Legal bearding.

SKOR said...

Most accounts confirm that she was an out lesbian when she met Rock: http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin/iowa/ajax.html?t=9478070#page:showThread,9478070

figgy said...

I actually find this fascinating. The contortions that public figures/ celebrities had to go through back in the day. Many still do, of course, though they shouldn't have to.

AND the tragedy for spouses when someone gay tries to marry the opposite sex. And worse yet when there are children.

So yes, this is very interesting, I think.

Renoblondee said...

That was none of my beeswax right there.

Anna Nomys said...

Again, what Figgy said. I think it's interesting to be able to study the history of the COMPLETE AND TOTALLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL INEQUALITY AND PREJUDICE AGAINST TAX PAYING FELLOW AMERICANS, who just happen to be homosexual. When will the Civil Right's of our family members and country men and women be recognized by our Government? Is there military sacrifice not as great as ours? Are their tax dollars not as good as ours? Are they unequal to us fundamentally? Are they less than citizens? Are they less than us? Why aren't the treated equally? Why dammit? Why?

didi67 said...

"It's a physical conjunction, boys don't fit" Huh? Am I missing something here?

Goodnight said...

This is awful, really nasty to record something so personal, even if it was for legal purposes. Fuck her, she has no idea what it was like for him. Being the spouse to a gay person is definitely a terrible emotional strain and ordeal but this really just makes me sick.

MISCH said...

The marriage was arranged by the studio and his management team...she knew...this is a joke.

FrenchGirl said...

i though she knew he was gay and she wanted to blackmail him (or something like that)

Ja'mie King said...

@didi I didn't understand that either.

I was under the impression she knew exactly what was going on when they married and her job was to be a wife for the public's eyes only.

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CrazyCatLady said...

The man has been dead for years leave him alone. Unfortunately it took his death for people to start talking about HIV. No one believed it could happen to a famous leading man much less themselves.

Basil said...

So she was blackmailing him? Interesting.

FrenchGirl said...

it was a 2006 Variety article and it used as example of blackmail a celebrity

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Outing+Mrs.+Rock+Hudson:+the+obits+after+Phyllis+Gates+died+in...-a0143009615

she tried also to blackmail her rich girlfriends or some gay husbands

Renoblondee said...

Wow. Just read your link @frenchgirl. She was a piece of work!

a non a miss said...

Must we TYPE LIKE THIS?!

please type like a normal person.

MM said...

Re the physical conjunction: He's saying that the penis is supposed to naturally go into the vagina, so it doesn't take him that long to finish with her. Whereas with a guy, the parts don't fit into each other as easily, so that's why it takes longer.

libby said...

MM--Yeah, thanks for putting it into words. I knew what he meant, I was trying to figure out how to explain.

Nice excuse, eh? Hilarious!

D Brown said...

She was taping it and goading him to admit being gay. Looks to me like upping the money demands in a divorce.

Cee Kay said...

Seems to me that if boys don't "fit" in other boys, the, uh, lack of space, would actually make them finish sooner...

SophiaB said...

Oh shush.

fancyscreenname said...

@MM....thanks for the explanation

Desiree said...

I am not gay, but I don't understand why the government insists on making gay marriage illegal. What do they benefit from it? You CAN'T tell me it's for religious purposes because we all know those people are the farthest from being holy! They pushed God out of most institutions long long ago.

There's no money to be made off of it...unlike drugs.

So then what?

nudibelle said...

but wont a tighter fit mean more stimulation?
He was lying to her ass lmfao!
He was just trying to get it over with
Say no to Fish

Rose said...

The transcript wasn't a confession. It's clear his wife already knew and that Rock knew that she knew. It seems that it wasn't the first time it was discussed.

auntliddy said...

Nothing peeps didnt know and no reason to hash.

Mango said...

I'm surprised that they had sex. I always thought it was a total paper marriage and never consummated.

Vera L- said...

Mamie Van Doren claims he did her on the kitchen floor after she was his red carpet date for a premier.

Now I have to see if her book came out before he did...

a non a miss said...

How BOUT no