I care nothing for either of these two but I do find it odd that a rehab facility would take on 2 close family members at the same time. ( disclaimer – I know nothing of rehab facilities)
I can't stand people who make these ridiculous claims. I also can't stand people who have to turn every single situation into something about themselves. No wonder Kesha is messed up. She can't even go into rehab to try and start healing without her mom making it about herself and bullying her way into the rehab center.
What child should apologize for a parent?How's about some personal responsibility/accountability?
Entern, honey, have a mimosa. It's Sunday morning!
PTSD isn't exclusive to soldiers. Rape victims often have PTSD, as do victims of horrific crimes, natural disasters, etc. It's post-TRAUMATIC stress disorder.
That said, Kachinga doesn't need to apologize for her mother. Mom's obviously capitalising on her daughter's issues and I don't know when/why/where/how the mother has ever been relevant enough to warrant a news item.
Thank you, Bacon!!
Wtf, Kesha is responsible for her Mother??
No. Fuck that, StoopitEnty.
What Seven said!
Seven, the voice of reason.
Thank you @ Seven of Eleven. I was going to say the same thing. I've dealt with PTSD and I'm not a soldier.
Hopefully, (and I think this is the case) the rehab facility keeps the two apart.
Thank you Seven.
I had PTSD after being robbed at gun point.
And, in a non-snarky way…
Her mother looks rough. Damn!
Yes, dump on today's Enty for not being specific enough.
So what was ur-Ke$ha's trauma? Did it compare to the level of any of the given examples? I doubt it.
"misses being relevant"??? I must not have been paying attention, because I don't recall a time when K-dollar sign-Ha! herself could be called relevant, let alone her mother.
Thank you @ Seven! PTSD is very serious and not just for soldiers.
Again kudos to Seven. I suffered from PSTD from growing up with an bipolar abusive mother, never knowing when she was gonna strike out at me. To a young child, it's a crushing situation.
Look just because you fuck for tracks doesn't mean your soul doesn't die a little each time. How often did the situation get out of hand even beyond what she expected? What she took to cope got out of hand. I hope she heals.
Why advertise going to rehab regardless of any pathetic excuse. Who cares? I can't believe this was even published.
To copy and paste my comment from yesterday:
I don't beleive that Ke$ha's mother is not doing her daughter any favours at this point in time. She seems to be blaming anyone BUT Ke$ha (and by that, I mean Ke$ha needs to take SOME responsibility for her situation in order to address it properly) – as well as Dr Luke, she's blaming Darren Craig (Ke$ha's former boyfriend – break-up was traumatic for her); and an advisor who told her to do whatever it took to lose 15lbs in a month. Oh, and add to that she told one publication that her daughter doesn't want to be forced to make 'stupid pop music' anymore. Not a good move!
–msgirl said…Again kudos to Seven. I suffered from PSTD from growing up with an bipolar abusive mother, never knowing when she was gonna strike out at me. To a young child, it's a crushing situation.–
Exactly this, except my mother was bipolar and borderline personality.
Foster children also are regularly diagnosed with PTSD
Maybe she has PTSD from being on the simple life with Paris
To me, it sounds like a very controlling, f-ed up mother is trying to insert herself into Kesha's rehab experience in an effort to control what she says and and does. Again, no wonder Kesha is screwed up.
Thank you Seven.
Enty, way to try to shame people you ignorant slut. Why don't you try googling something before getting on your soap box?
As so many before me here mentioned, you can have PTSD from many things that fall under the witnessing or being the victim of violent/traumatic events…rape, incest, robbery, accident, natural disaster, war, psychological/emotional trauma, abuse survivor …the list goes on and on.
Here's a personal example, I have it from losing a pregnancy and hemorrhaging so badly I nearly died (a traumatic event) so a medical emergency can cause PTSD, I get flashbacks of the blood, without warning–it's hard to go into hospitals. Nightmares. It's PTSD, diagnosed by a real doctor.
Don't you think people that live through a natural disaster could develop PTSD? Open your mind. Jeez.
Who knows what happened in her life that may have been traumatic. People manage and cope with situations until they can't manage and cope anymore.Who knows, maybe seeing her daughter get help may have shown her a way to get better.
Ugh! *I believe that Ke$ha's mother is …'
@Beth – woah! Was that insult really necessary?
I have PTSD.
I don't know if she has it or not, but the vet stereotype has to go. Others are suffering too.
It's from an SNL skit
The mother may have PSTD, but jesus, could she let her daughter have her moment to heal? She cld have waited or gone quietly to her own rebab. I think she;s a selfish bitch.
No one needs to apologize for their mother.
LOL @ Harlow17!There was a blind item quite a while ago titled, "She's had a hard life," in which a pop singer's mother had to turn tricks to keep the family fed. The blind also said that the mother made the singer turn a couple of tricks too. Kesha was the popular answer for the blind. Although I doubt the blind was totally true, I would think that working as a prostitute when one does not wish for that kind of life would cause some PTSD.
Stepford-Quite sensitive of you to feel the need to police my comment for appropriate content, but you totally missed my message. Nice display of apathy to my message.
Who the hell made you the moderator today?
I'm hurt, I share something personal, and that's the feedback I get. Lesson learned.
@Beth, thank you for sharing your painful story. I'm sorry for your loss. Hugs.
Ignore the would-be moderator.
Folks be mighty touchy today
I ended up in the ICU and nearly died after a postpartum hemorrhage…very traumatic, indeed. Hugs to you.
Aw, Beth. I'm so sorry you had to live through that. To lose a child is one of the worst things anyone should have to face. And under such horrific circumstances too. Stay strong darlin'. X
Same to you too Baba. Lots of love.x
1. Ke$ha is not responsible for her mother's behavior, so she owes no one an apology, much less a bunch of random strangers (like us)2. PTSD is not limited to soldiers–do some research before you embarrass yourself with your posts3. Ke$ha's mother has never been relevant, so how could she miss it? You're confusing her with Dina Lohan.
Beth, my heart goes out to you. Don't pay attention to jerks, it's their problem with something you said and has nothing to do with you.
Thank you all for the support. PTSD is a touchy subject, obviously.
I'm try to laugh at myself for getting upset after commenting on a Kesha post and getting my feelings hurt…much better now.
PTSD : I agree w Beth whoever this Enty is – perhaps thoughtless – you're obviously not educated – even lawyers know about PTSD due to often working with/on behalf of clients with the condition. Cunty Enty – that was ignorant and cunty.
Yes I am shocked that Enty is so thoughtless about something so serious.
PTSD is something that can be festering for decades unknown to the person who never got the help they needed, who never understood there is a name for what is bothering them let alone help, like sexual abuse in childhood, whether from outside or inside the family or surviving a tragic event of any kind, like many people who survived the attacks of 9-11.
During Celebrity Rehab, Dr. Drew always does has sessions with family members as they are often part of the problem and they are certainly part of the solution.
When Amber the former model was on, Dr. Drew had her mother in and they were co-dependent drug addicts, they did their drugs together and he talked the mother into going to rehab right then and there but I am pretty sure it was not the same facility.
Sometimes it takes dealing with another family member's issues or someone else having the courage to seek help that makes another family member realize they need help.
Thank you for sharing Beth.
With you on this, Bacon Ranch…how about parents of celebrities start apologising for their children's behaviour? Oh yes, I AM looking askance, Mrs Bieber and La famille Lohan…
No snark here on mummy's PTSD. Big snark here on mummy's timing and publicity. That is all.
@Violet–maybe it's a good thing they're in same rehab facility. Maybe they can have some fucking family therapy. Maybe we can get a good Lifetime movie out of it…
I'm sorry to type this, I really am, but the "PTSD is not just for soldiers" made me think of how puppies "are not just for Christmas!"
Fully agree, right down to the side-eye.
Oh, beth, this is just the tip of the iceburg.. around here youll get jumped for having the nerve to say "chubby" too early in the morning.* Moderate this fuckers*waa waa
Also nearly died in 36 hour labor with my youngest. BP so high I nearly stroked out, ER C – Section, hemorrhaging, and a week – long stay in hospital. I HATE hospitals, the smells; all of it.
Hey beth, around here youll get jumped by the moderatorPolice for sayin "chubby" too early in the morning. Let it roll off **Moderate this. Suckit**
Though PTSD isn't my specialty I've taken several courses & have it. 1. As many said PTSD isn't just soldiers – that's how it was 1st discovered (called 'shell shock' after WW2). After Vietnam, it became known as PTSD but was still relegated to soldiers and fairly recently gained acceptance as an illness all can have. Yes, PTSD can be caused by any event beyond what a person can likely expect to occur. Not all people who experience trauma get it & it effects many differently. It's estimated 90%+ of addicts have it – addiction changes brain chemistry (& usually pathways) which alters user's experience of PTSD) In this day & age it saddens me greatly when I someone shamed. Imo, people in authority positions have a responsibility to not shame others. It's very sick & keeps so many sick cycles going.Triggers can be sounds, smells, weather, tone of voice, song, many aren't even aware of them. Sometimes by finding them patients can use diff tools to 'come back' to present (triggers cause them to relive trauma as if it was happening right here/now). Enty, do research. Anyone here truly know if she has it? Does it matter to you? Maybe she does. Finally, I had 5 separate very traumatic events (raped twice, car accident twice – my baby died in 1 best friend in other), & bf stabbed himself in front of me between 18-20.Beth, it's their s**t, not yours. I'm proud of you.
Can you get PTSD from being ridden hard and put away wet?
My first thought was she is going in there to sneak her drugs being the former blind was she wanted painkillers to get over withdrawl.
Actually many former sex workers suffer from post traumatic stress – especially street workers. Assault, robbery, rape, controlling pimps. Scarey stuff!
My thoughts are with all of you with PTSD. So sorry.@auntliddy Agree about her mother!
I had PTSD after almost dying in a car accident 8 days before I left home from college. I was the passenger and I definitely have lingering issues with control.
Hug (raindrops)I commend everyone here for the strength they have shown in their lives. Its amazing how we can't see it at the time but the fact that we have gotten through it day by day,is enough.I'm proud to know you…
Enty needs to take a stroll over to the Veteran's Administration website and read about PTSD. I cannot credit them enough for their research! They have an excellent paper for first responders. Their methods of therapy are proven and explained in layman's terms. Education Enty!!
RoR, your story is horrifying. My very best to you Beth and Babs.
I've been robbed several times and attacked in my apt during one but don't feel like it's affected me other than vowing to kiss the ass of the next mother fucker who even tries it again. I cannot imagine the continual pain. Big hugs to all.
Jeez, sorry msgirl. Hugs.
Agree with steamster. The traumas many many if us walk aound with whiile maintaining normal lives is staggering. Kudos to all of us, and light and healing coming your way. Hugs.
There's not much I can add to the awesome comments of so many other, except this: trauma doesn't have to be recent to cause PTSD. The worst symptom, in my particular case, is that I don't get the sense of distance that comes with the passage of time. I don't relive things, but every trauma seems recent, from the dentist who used to hit me when I was 4 (and who is the reason that I have the teeth of a meth addict) to the many childhood molestations, to the pond scum that raped me as an adult and fathered my youngest child, to the recent suicide of my little brother in a fairly gruesome manner. I never get "closure", because it's never in the PAST. Yes, that timing of her announcement is suspicious, and it's likely a publicity ploy, but it's unfair to make that determination on the mere fact that she hasn't seen military service.
Um…I think enty was giving an EXAMPLE Of real PTSD (as opposed to Kesha's mom's very likely fake PTSD) if you read, he doesn't say anywhere that only soldiers can get it.
In fact, he says, "and it makes light of people who actually do have PTSD," i.e. he's saying that people who fake PTSD belittle the people who actually suffer from it…like the people who shared their stories here.
Way to attack someone for getting angry at someone who shits on true sufferers.
If that is indeed the case Lola, the the Enties need to learn how to string a coherent bloody sentence together.
Considering they have been hinting that Kesha was molested at some time in the (recentish) past, they are being unreasonably hard on her. What the f* do they know about what could trigger a flashback?
Yes I know… My iPad has a well-developed sense of irony.
Unless my reading comprehension is failing me, I don't believe enty said (or even implied) that Kesha was faking anything so I fail to see how this post is a . being unreasonably hard on her, or b . making any commentary as to whether Kesha had/didn't have a flashback.
Unless I have missed something, enty is saying her mother is a lying piece of shit who is blithely using PTSD as an attention getting excuse, and in doing so insults people who actually do suffer.
I think people are misreading this item. It says that Kesha's mom is suddenly claiming she, herself, has PTSD and must go into the same rehab center Kesha is in. The scenario reeks of the daughter trying to get help for herself, and her attention-seeking mom saying, "Oh, no! This is all about ME! I need help MORE!"
Thanks so much.
@seven thanks for posting that before i could. i was about to flip out on the entern. i'm already having a shit day, i didnt need to read about someone questioning and stereotyping ptsd.
i have ptsd from a relationship. a relationship you fracking entern. sorry i dont fit your narrow view of who qualifies for ptsd.
I am glad to see some folks on here opening enty's mind on the human state. Military related PTSD is definitely not the only type. It is the most well known however as boys from WWI had it and called it something else at that time so it has been around for quite some time. I was abused consistently for 16 years and have a panic disorder and ptsd.
That broad looks like ten miles of bad road.
She's afraid that her meal ticket will get better in rehab and kick her tired old ass to the curb.
Let's hope the rehab staff is on to her from the get-go.