Friday, March 14, 2014

Blind Item #6- Old Hollywood Blind

On the set of one of her better known movies, this then A-list funny lady invited her male costar, an Oscar winning character actor, to her dressing room to put the rumors to rest that she was really a man. Right as she shut the door, off came her top and out came her breasts.

76 comments:

Ray Nicolet said...

Mae West

Kristin (Wiglet) said...

Katharine Hepburn

Derek Harvey said...

Lucile Ball

TalksTooMuch said...

Barbara?

Bacon Ranch said...

Jean Arthur?

Simon said...

Phyllis Diller

WareCat said...

#teamfirst
#teamrayismyrideordiechick
#teammaewestwasasexybetch

lazyday603 said...

Ethel Merman

Derek Harvey said...

These are too hard and vague for me. and all the people we are guessing should be A+---no? Except for Jean Arthur cause I don't know who that is....

WareCat said...

I thought Babs too.

Derek Harvey said...

we have a hard enough time deciphering modern stars rankings...

sugarbread maker said...

Barbara is known as funny lady

Basil said...

I'll go with Kate Hepburn. I could see her doing something like this.

FSP said...

Rosie O'Donnell/Tom Hanks/A League of Their Own

Anna Belle said...

Fanny Brice, maybe...she is old Hollywood & who Babs played in Funny Girl & Funny Lady...not pretty even by old Hollywood standards

TalksTooMuch said...

I thought Babs because of the Funny Lady reference

msgirl said...

The only person I can think of who is gossiped about being a man or having man parts is Jamie Lee Curtis, but she's hardly old Hollywood.

B626 said...

Jamie Lee Curtis Kevin Klein

Kristin (Wiglet) said...

Katharine Hepburn and Jimmy Stewart (Oscar winner)
Hepburn had all kinds of rumors surrounding her sexuality after playing a guy in Sylvia Scarlett
She revamped her image into a comedienne of sorts around Bringing Up Baby.

Seven of Eleven said...

Damn ASIAN tops! They always come off and out come the breasts!

texas rose said...

But Barbara is still A list. I think it is an actual comedienne.

Simon said...

Can't find an oscar winning "character" actor who starred with Streisand. Was jimmy Stewart considered character actor? He had a lot of leading man roles..

Seven of Eleven said...

I adore Katharine Hepburn and could so see her doing this, not to quell rumours, but just for the shock value.

I also adore Jimmy Stewart (he's hands down my favorite actor ever) and I would picture him looking like this.

crila16 said...

Phyllis Diller

OneEyeCharlie said...

I used to have a roommate that was on the computer all of the time. Rarely did any housework. I guess that's why I'm so good at vacuuming.

crila16 said...

Beatrice Arthur

Topper Madison said...

Ma Kettle

AbbeyBruce said...

I like the Jamie Lee Curtis guess.

Anna Belle said...

Old Hollywood=before 1936.

Simon said...

The only one I could find that matched was Ethel merman and don Ameche. They were in Alexander's rag time band. Ameche would be considered a character actor and won academy award. I just don't think Jamie lee considered old Hollywood at her age.

texas rose said...

I know there are posters of various ages on this site but I don't think Jamie Lee Curtis is definitely not 'old hollywood'. She was born In '58 and started acting in the 70s. Her parents were old Hollywood. There were rumors about her being a hermaphrodite but wouldn't she then pull down her pants to prove it? That being said- who knows exactly what enty means by old Hollywood.

Kristin (Wiglet) said...
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texas rose said...

nice edit - 'I don't think JLC is 'old hollywood'

MISCH said...

but what about below the waist ?

texas rose said...

Excellent guess Simon. She was big and brassy and that may have led to those kinds of rumors.

Candyland said...
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Ray Nicolet said...

#teamWCmakesmydaybetter

Simon said...

@texasrose, yea I wouldn't have been surprised if she were a man, lol. I can also so her ripping off the top to prove it!

CharRicho said...

Were there really this many old Hollywood actresses rumoured to be men?!

sandybrook said...

I can see Mae West doing it. I really cant see Ethel Merman doing it. Nor Katherine Hepburn (even though I bet back then there were gay rumors around about her.)

Topper Madison said...

Good lord, it's not Jamie Lee Curtis! OLD Hollywood means back during the studio system--pre 1968 or so. Besides, we all saw Jamie's breasts in "Trading Places," and they're spectacular.

sandybrook said...

To some Old Hollywood might mean before they were born Topper.

Simon said...

Ok! Well actually could be Mae West who co-starred with Victor McLaglen in Klondike Annie. Victor considered character actor and is Oscar winner.

Ice Angel said...

@Texas Rose - hermaphrodite is an antiquated and offensive term to describe the intersexed. Please see the following website for further information:
www.isna.org
I am sure you meant no harm, but looking out for our future generations, as I found it very difficult growing up with this condition.

Topper Madison said...

Looking good, @sandybrook! It just makes me so upset to think that the youth of today have never seen "Trading Places." In my house, it's a Christmas tradition.

Tara said...

Mae had that broad chest but I think people considered her all woman. Now Diller was my guess - funny lady because she was a comedian and the man rumors because of her bawdy humor and voice.

Anna Belle said...

I think some people need to see some early Mae West pictures...when she was young she would wear very low cut gowns...no way could anyone mistake her for a man

Simon said...

@tara, Phyllis was my first guess but I couldn't make it work based on her movie co-stars...

Becca Parker said...

It can't be Merman because Ernest Borgnine would have said something after their 30 day marriage!

lilivonshtupp said...

There were rumors about Mae West which prompted this quote from Edith Head:

I've seen Mae West without a stitch and she's all woman. No hermaphrodite could have bosoms... well, like two large melons.

Merlin D. Bear said...

Only slightly off topic -
The rumors about Mae West have circulated forever.
She was vilified for her open portrayal of female sexuality, which frankly IMHO, was so over the top for the times ('20's & 30's) that it was camp (*).
(* for those are unfamiliar with the term, I offer these definitions:
1) exaggerated effeminate mannerisms exhibited especially by homosexuals
2) something so outrageously artificial, affected, inappropriate, or out-of-date as to be considered amusing
3) a style or mode of personal or creative expression that is absurdly exaggerated and often fuses elements of high and popular culture
Mae's performances were all of those and more.

That being said, Thomas Tryon's book about Old Hollywood, "Crowned Heads", is a must read, especially for CDAN sleuthers - most especially because of the thinly veiled novella about Mae & this rumor.

Renoblondee said...

Kate Hepburn.

harpo068 said...

This is TOTALLY Mae West--there were persistent rumors that she was a female impersonator, even as late as the 1960s. (That's why Edith Head made the comment quoted above.) Most of y'all are just way too young to remember.

Also, I believe the rule for old Hollywood blinds is that everyone involved has to be dead...

harpo068 said...

And the "A-list funny lady" description rules out Kate Hepburn, who only started doing screwball comedies with Philadelphia Story in 1940, several years after her 1935 flop with Sylvia Scarlett, which was when the rumors about her were most widespread. But even, then people just thought she was a lesbian (which she was), not a man.

Count Jerkula said...

Titties aint no indication that she aint a man. Internets is full of dudes w/ tits. She gotta lift the dress and show the mess.

what a mess said...

Barbara Stanwick and Peter Lorre

Nolesgirl said...

Gotta be Mae West - no clue who the guy would be. I don't ever want to imagine someone taking advantage of Jimmy Stewart - thats my love.

Amy said...

George Sanders is the only classic character actor who won an Oscar who immediately jumps to mind. (And Old Hollywood cannot possibly mean only movies before 1936. For fuck's sake, Hollywood's golden age is basically considered from the late 1920s to the early 1960s, which is the era I take these blinds to mean.)

QueenAnne Guido said...

It's Mae. Edith Head famously trafficked in those she's a dude comments.

Ah. The great Mae West. Writer and actor.

texas rose said...

Sorry Ice Angel.

Kristin (Wiglet) said...

@Ice Angel thanks for sharing. I had no idea what the proper term is.

Dave said...

Books that refer to the Mae West / hermaphrodite rumor:
Darwin Porter, Howard Hughes, p. 314
Jessica Jordan, The Sex Goddess in American Film, p. 93
Margaret Moser, Movie Stars do the Dumbest Things, p. 258
Paul Young, LA Exposed, p. 12

Count Jerkula said...

Nothing against you Ice Angel, but jeez, you know we are 10-20 years from "intersexed" and "Whatever-Americans" being offensive terms and it changing again. Any and all labels become insults, and the more words are hidden, the more power they are given as such.

Again, nothing against you, just a vent on the constantly changing identifiers.

CharRicho said...

It's not THAT hard to just use the current term that is preferred by those that identify as such.

Count Jerkula said...

Yeah, sure, but then you use the term this person finds acceptable to the wrong person, and you get another earful. It is a never ending cycle and it is tiresome.

ktmonster said...

All of them. In hindsight most of the leading ladies from the 30's and 40's have an amazing drag queen look about them.

obitguy said...

Mae West and Gary Cooper

di butler said...

"Why don't you come up and see me sometime?" Mae was great. Sad life story, though. For those interested, there's a million old H'wood docs on YouTube on Gable, Temple, Taylor, Gabor, Cooper, and earlier. Enjoy.

Phoebe C said...

Mae West - not sure if the co-star was Cary Grant or WC Fields. Either way - one of them had a great story to dine out on

Erik said...

Going with Mae West.

anon said...

Also going with Mae West - I have heard these rumors about her for years. No way Katherine Hepburn is considered a "funny lady" even with the screwball comedies - started out on stage as a serious actress and ended up that way.

Paint Chips said...

Oh, dear god tell me that Jamie Lee Curtis is not old hollywood! She's not that much older than me.

The first person that popped into my head was also Mae West, but I'm trying to remember the details of why anyone thought she was a guy.

See, this has to be "old Hollywood" because ANYONE can have breasts these days.

I would love to say the co-star was Cary Grant, but he wasn't really a character actor.

Bubbles said...

Well Count Jerkula, if you're referring to transsexual women as "dudes with tits all over the internet" it should come as no surprise that that's pretty damn offensive as well.

Not to mention that there was no such thing as breast augmentation in the 20's and 30's. Padding doesn't count since it obviously doesn't stay on when one strips.

Redd said...

I loved that Crowned Heads book back in the day, Tom Tyron also wrote "Harvest Home' which was an excellent read as well. First thing that popped in my head when I read this blind was Lilly Tomlin, she's a funny lady, and kind of nannish, don't know if she is old enough to be considered old Hollywood tho.

Redd said...

err,excuse me, mannish.

Sprink said...

Minor point, but Quality Street, Bringing Up Baby, and Holiday were all comedies before Philadelphia Story.