Marriage is tough, y'all
Whoever he is–fuck him!
OT: HAPPY BIRTHDAY JANE WIEDLIN!!!!
Morning guys! At least he didn't run. That's some kinda crazy…
Poor children. Cheery start to a Tuesday. I could start a political debate about gun laws in the US but I won't.Hello everyone.
afternoon Violet! The next post should be the dancing post.
Sandy, Enty's just making sure the payment has cleared before he posts that.
Afternoon all! Anyone else struggling to pick their jaw up off the floor from this? Something makes me think he must've been under the influence, but then if he were, why / how did he stay calm enough to stay put until the police arrived to take him away?
Morning Violet, I wanted to mention the whole gun availability thing too. It seemed too energetic …
Morning Steamy, sandy and everyone else and afternoon Violet!
This is awful. Those poor kids.
And this is why I never want a gun in my home
Maybe he will try the Oscar Pistorius defense tactic–I thought she was n intruder.
Steamy, I got told off for being smug about running yesterday so I suspect that sharing my opinions about guns might just be one step to far.
He snapped, but not being a psychopath, realized what he had done, possible wife was still alive or could have been so he wanted to get help? along with take responsibility for what he had done. Those poor kids indeed.
I didn't see iceberg ( more complimentary then my want to say) comment until this morning or I would have put her straight. Loves to you Violet. You were only responding to our comments.
Awww man. Those poor kids. Messed up for life. : ( Starting rumors here, what if it was one of the children that did the shooting and he is taking the blame!?!?! dun dun dun.
I'll say it too many damned guns in the US – I think I saw a stat that there are more guns in the US than people. How many damn guns does any one person need outside of the police or the military and even those groups keep strict control on that issue.
I wonder what the stats are on kids getting into mom's or dad's loaded guns and shooting the head off a sibling.
I guess he did immediately 'fess up to the incident and didn't traumatise the kids further by taking them on the run, or turning it into a family murder / suicide but his poor kids. So very, very sad for them.
TTM! I'm devastated! I had been pumping myself up all day for the RPDR finale and I've just gone to find it and it's not online yet :'( My bedtime viewing plans have been ruined, waaaaahh!
Oh yeah, good morning to all of you on the other side of the world!
This post is awful. I feel for those poor kids. I'm not gonna speculate any further until more details are revealed, it's too sad.
Good morning,All. Afternoon, Ms Violet.
Holy shit! Poor kids indeed.
Aint no gash worth jail time.
You and all these other anti gun people are ignorant….guns dont kill people dumbass people with guns kill people. Maybe if they make drugs illegal people wont use them……oh wait.
Violet – don't let that poster from yesterday make you feel bad. She popped in from out of nowhere, to take digs. Along with another poster.
No spoilers from me, Lux, but good hunting!
If you don't have a loaded gun sitting in your house when you snap, as happens in too many domestic disputes might be less murders. Though of course you can still get killed by a good stabbing and yes one is not going to ban the steak knife or the box cutter. Well except on planes.
@Sandy… he played Bubba on Forrest Gump
WTF??? What is wrong with people?
Only dumbass people with guns call all anti-gun people ignorant. At least we aren't getting shot in our own houses with our own guns and our kids aren't shooting each other with our guns either.
Surfer – truth is as I left Mr Violet sweating and heavy breathing in my wake I actually did feel pretty damn smug.
Michael Jace did not play Bubba in FG.
Violet – as you should. That's a huge accomplishment, and much to be proud of!
Notice how the people that get defensive about guns are always the angriest?
I'm just gonna set my case down here, and let it rest.
Oh ya.. @Ray, you're right.. that was Mykelti Williamson
It's midnight here, so I'm about to put my frowny face to bed. The search will resume in the morning. Until then, I'm on complete social media lockdown. Please warn me if a spoiler turns up on CDAN, so I know which posts to avoid.
Was it an enjoyable finale?
"whew!" I was this  close to not being able to watch Forrest Gump ever again
My mom sent me a personal safety email one time and a police officer warned women to keep a can of wasp spray around.. he said it's better than pepper spray because it shoots up to 30'
I will do my best to keep mum,Lux! It was a great finale, a whole whack o Ornacias showed up and there were men dancing very athletically in suits and WHAT was Jinkx wearing and so on and so forth. Watch it so we can gab!!
Violet – discretion//valour.
^^^^^^^That's what it would have been. Twice
Surfer I hope you aren't talking about my comment, I meant it as a dig to iceberg not violet.
YES! I always wanted to see more of Vivacious and Ornacia!
My little drag loving heart is sad that I'm shit out of luck trying to find it online somewhere to stream.
If anyone can point me in the direction of a site that has Rupaul's Drag Race finale to stream, that would be greatly appreciated!!
Wait, you mean you DIDN'T run 20 miles yesterday and then the stairs and everything??? I suppose even the bebeh rescuing was a sham? Sigh, internets, protecting people from sarcasm for more than 20 years
Unfortunately there was some slight fabrication on my part. It was only twins, not triplets. I hope one day you can all learn to forgive me and trust me again.
Well, I will, but only because you forgave me for Metallica. Friendsies?
Goodness, those poor kids.
JSierra – no, not you! It was someone (Iceberg, maybe?) who came out of nowhere and took a swipe at Violet. There's also a new poster, Missy Prissy, I think, who also only takes shots at people.
I thought your post was pretty funny!
Violet for what it's worth I'm sure I'd agree with you. I fight the Opster every week about having a gun. For some reason there is a mentality amongst the people around Blanc Debris that you need one for self defense. Bullshit I say.
Well at least he confessed so that makes it better? Angry people don't need firearms. Kiss the life if privilege away due to an impulsive act made easier with a weapon so final in its purpose. Lives have been ruined forever. Not just hers but two children, her siblings and parents, HIS siblings and parents and on and on. The repercussions are enormous. Yep guns are good y'all.
A gun could have laid there for years and done nothing. It has no special power. That guy is a psycho (who could have brought a gun from anywhere for that express purpose) and, Jesus, their poor children. That's the only part of the story that really stuck out to me. I can't imagine what they witnessed and the ways in which that will affect them.
And before someone gets all fucking self righteous about their right to arm bears please note I never said anything about restrictions on your precious personal liberties although truly how "devastated" would your life be if you didn't have one? How much have you used it to feed or defend your family? Really honestly. Count up those times in your head? I'm betting you just do target practice with it. IF you are a hunter do you need a hand gun for that? I really don't know honestly but I suspect not.
Okay stepping off my soapbox.
O'Really, no, you'll just get shot by the burglar that rapes your wife or kids in front of you while you stand there helplessly like a bitch, then kills you all. So good luck with that!
Sherry and Tina Mallette, isn't it great that neither of you get to dictate how others live their lives? If you don't want guns, fine. Nobody is forcing you to buy them, but you do not get to tell others what they can or cannot have. No gun owner needs to justify the type or number of guns they own, to you or anyone.
Violet, sorry but the UK has a lot of gun crime, and you can't even buy knives there without the nanny state interfering. God help you if you send a "racist' tweet, or quote a Churchill speech, you'll be arrested. You might consider looking at your own country's many, MANY problems before butting your nose in our business. It didn't go so well for Piers Morgan either.
And the malapropism was intentional.
@aemish: I love Spectracide. I about 6 years ago I had a mess of wasps (eve of the garage, inside the garage, in the horse trailer), and that stuff wrecked em. Quickly and from a safe distance.
I find anti-gun loons to be clinging to the nanny state's apron, hoping for safety. Yer not safe and you never will be. That is life. Live it or don't, its your choice.
P.S. Dude from my high school crushed his wife's skull with a ball peen hammer, as the kids were getting ready for grandma to pick them up. Then he stabbed himself to death. Can we get Ball Peen Hammer Control and Knife Control going?? How about a 3 day waiting period on ball peen hammers and a background check for sharp objects. Since I like to foresee future problems and nip them in the bud, can we have yearly psych evals for people with hands? Too many people get strangled and we need to prevent this. What? Inconveniencing hundreds of millions of people is too much trouble to save a life?
You see what happened when CT made the gradstanding move of telling people w/ automatic weapons they had to register them or they would be committing a felony? They estimated 400k weapons would be registered. I think less than 40k were. The other 35k said fuck you Mr. Governor.
Here is the Forbes article on CT registrations
Quote from article "This is the same dilemma Connecticut gun owners found themselves in at the end of 2013. As of December 31, 2013, according to Lt. J. Paul Vance of the Connecticut State Police (CSP CSPI -0.88%), the state had received 41,347 applications to register “assault weapons” and 36,932 applications to register “high-capacity” magazines. That means that more than 300,000 Connecticut residents decided not to register their “assault weapons,” moved them out of state, or sold them. "
And in many places the Sheriffs are refusing to enforce the grandstanding gun laws.
NY Times Article
In conclusion, all this grandstanding gun control legislation is really distracting from the important things plaguing society, like gay marriage and sodas over 16 ounces. God help the gay wedding reception that tries to dole out Pepsi in a 20oz cup. The GOP will be trying to send in SEAL TEAM 6, while the Dems piss their pants in fear of losing the chubby gay vote.
OMG What a shitty thread! Sooo many OT comments NOT labeled OT!
Astra as you can read in my post I never said I wanted to restrict anyone from THEIR choice to buy a gun. I only stated my vehement dislike for them.
Haha good, I tried to make it as unbelievable as possible but sometimes my sarcasm doesn't transfer well, I'm glad that want the case this time. The only running I do is to the bar.
At least you were nice enough to labele your own comment OT, we salute you.
Of course, but I draw the line at nickleback. OK I'm done OT-in sorry guys.
First of all, astra, I am a woman, so I suppose I am a bitch with no wife. Secondly, just because I can live securely without a gun doesn't mean I am defenseless. I'm a bad bitch and I pity any idiot that comes at me. Lastly, I do not need nor do I expect a "nanny state" to protect me but I do expect rational, common sense laws to prevail over the greed of a single, powerful organization whose existence relies on gun ownership. That is all. I did not mean to get sucked into a gun argument. My apologies to any offended. I hope you all have a lovely day.
He looked so calm standing by tbe cop car in cuffs, when it was on the news. I was thinking he didn't even say he did it bc everyone was calm with him just standing there. Usuly the shooter is in the black n white and whisked away immediately where they can get to him better. As I wrote this they are reporting it in radio. Saying neighbors never heard them argue until Sunday night and that the famy was seen often taking walks with their dogs. (That's important to know.)
Im outing myaelf as a watcher of The First 48, police prodedure show about real crimes. Its almost always about some percueved slight- he dissed me, he scratched my car- and some young boy ends up shot dead, with other young boy jailed fir life. Its such a waste i cld cry. But i spent alot of time thinking about it, and i think the problem is that the gun us the go- to. Something in their minds demands they get gun to settle problem, no matter how ridiculously inane or minor it is. That the gun is their answer is the problem. I mean, you scratch my car, im gonna be annoyed but im not gonna shoot you. Of course the secondary problem is the availability of said guns. Literally, everyone and their grandmother has one. But going to get it to use it, thats soley on the shooter. Just my opinion.
you'll just get shot by the burglar that rapes your wife or kids in front of you while you stand there helplessly like a bitch, then kills you all. So good luck with that!
Gun enthusiasts like to claim that keeping a gun handy protects them and their family from violent intruders. The study by Wiebe shows that having a gun at home is associated with an increased risk of dying by gunfire, so gun ownership does not appear to be protective of violent firearms-related killings.
More from those big dummies at Harvard.
Wait, isn't he from The Wire? I'm pretty sure he is, he was the captain in charge of the wire cases,who had the relationship with the redheaded lawyer
I "heart" u
Don't spoil it with facts!
Astra – I really don't wish to get into any debate but any basic google will show you gun death rate statistics which quite clearly do not show the USA in a good light. But whatever.
And as for the rest of your very debatable accusations i can only say that it would appear you've been reading way too many Daily Mail articles.
@violetEnjoy your accomplishments as a runner. I WISH I could (cigarettes). I admire runners.
All the male gun nights I've known were either pussies or micro penis club members.
there you have it.
Fancy – don't admire me, I am way too smug to be admired :).
I live out in the woods, 45 minutes from the cops, and that's only if they happen to be on my side of the county. My husband works nights.
We have bears, 8 kinds of poisonous snakes, the occasional cougar and meth cookers far closer to me than the cops are. We were broken into once, and I heard the assholes laughing about what they planned on doing to me. The shotgun worked pretty good, but had I been able to see them in the front yard and use my AR-15, I wouldn't have had near the mess on my hardwood floors.
All y'all can keep depending on the cops. I prefer to defend myself if I need to.
Anyone who calls themselves a hunter and hunts with an automatic weapon is NO hunter.
If people are storing their weapons properly, which I suspect most people are not, except those who have permits to carry their weapons on their person, you may not be able to get to your weapons on time if and intruder should enter your house. But at least your kids are safe the rest of the time.
The more legal guns out there, the more weapons for the bad guys to steal.
Friends of mine were at one of those side of the highway warehouses in Texas and they had all military surplus including guns like AK47s etc but what stunned them the most were the RPGs. WTF. I think they must have thought they were in Afghanistan, not Texas.
RGG is a rocket launcher BTW. Every home should have one eh?
Oh this is terrible.The Shield is one of my all-time favourite shows,his portrayal of a conflicted man was very good.Hope there are good people to take care of the children,they've lost both parents (
Of course to be fair I live in a city of 100,000 where there is maybe one murder a year and the last murder was a fatal stabbing not a gun shot. And it is usually two drunk or stoned guys having an argument. A wife killed her husband but that was poison.
As a Southerner ( born and raised now living on Philadelphia) I am 100% right to bear arms. My father is from south Carolina. My family lives in a rural part. Living in a rural part of town means that u have to maintain your land. If someone with bad intentions cones to your land u must handle it. There are not that many cops. u r your own police officer until they get there. My hubby is from Brooklyn and doesn't get it. He is pro gun control.
I will have to concede that living in the country is a different situation having lived in the country for 10 years and couldn't wait to get back into the city. Response time is dismal outside the city limits. Fire and police and the fire departments are usually volunteer.
Nothing bad did happen but we constantly had people ringing the doorbell middle of the night saying their car broke down and it depended on how many people were home if you let them in the house at all or you would say who can I call for you. And everyone knows the crooks do target the country houses for B&E. Now I am back in suburbia and we had an undercover cop who lives down the street, didn't know we had an undercover cop, and his house was broken into and they really ransacked his house – wonder if they knew he was undercover – and we have at least 5 other cops who live in this neighbourhood, uniform cops.
But you don't need an arsenal to rival the military either.
I am all for personal safety but I my individual person am not comfortable with guns. If my weapon were to fall into the wrong hands and cause some terrible tragedy or some awful tragic accident I would never be able to live with myself.
I do have a stun gun though.
Gonna invest in the Spectracide for sure, @Count!
@ Ian's GirlThat's quite a story. Had to have made the news. Provide a link? Or the date and area?
See, cuz I think you're lying. Prove me wrong or save the tall tales.
@hairydawg.. I thought she meant she had shotgun shells on her floor?
@Ian's Girl.. wait, are you saying you actually killed someone??
Good for you Ian's Girl. Should have put their heads on pikes in the front yard to deter others.
Sadly, only killed one of them. The one I shot in the back lived. I'm not sure how, because he laid there and bled quite a long time before the law got there, and he had a long ride backto town in the backseat of the patrol car. No Air-Vac service back then.
Hairydawg, bless your heart, I have no doubt that I am old enough to be your grandmother. It happened in 1989. Things did actually happen in the dark days before the internet. It made the once a week paper in Podunk North Carolina, referenced as a house break in. I won't specify the exact location, but it is between the Qualla Boundry and the Georgia line.
I think a lot of people have arsenals because they're afraid they won't be able to buy guns at some point. We have a fair amount, but lots were inherited. I have a harder time handling handguns than rifles and such, so we have more of those.
No RPGs, I swear. I'd love a tank, just for the badassness of it, but it'd probably terrify my alpacas.
I think most people are moderate about the issue of guns. Mental illness, the loss of community, and issues in education create the tinder box that makes some of us fearful to live with or without a gun depending on perspective. I'm not going to give my opinions about gun rights, but I will humbly request that the conversation gets refocused. What can we do to fix the societal ills that are creating an alarmingly large group of people feeling isolation in our "connected" world?
@missbunny: Medicare For All.
People need access to mental health professionals. Why are American taxpayers providing billions of their hard earned dollars to Israel for example every year when their citizens have free universal healthcare — and we don't? It's madness.
@aemish – I cannot believe you went there. Shame.
So you don't believe free access to universal mental health care would address a significant percentage of societal ills, @Surfer?
Well said, Count!
Ian's Girl, I live in an area just like you describe. Part of the deal is taking care of own selves, whether that's chopping firewood or defending our lives and property if necessary because the cops can't get here quick enough.
Of course I do, Aemish. But this post was about an actor who killed his wife, which turned into a debate about gun ownership; you then threw Israel (of all countries) into the mix. That is what I was referring to.
I think everyone should have access to universal healthcare.
My husband is an Israeli citizen and we have a house there. Will be spending some time there this summer. I always try to support my statements by giving examples of something I am aware of and Israel in this case came to mind. *shrug*
y'know Talks too much, I quit making fun of you because I could see how much it got under your skin and honestly I felt a little badly for you, because it seems cdan is your life so I left you to it.But commenting right off the bat on this post, when a women has been murdered and two kids are left behind w/out a mom and a killer for a father, making your lame little joke – do you wonder why people dislike you and your incessant comments, your odd need to comment non stop, even when clearly you have nothing useful to say?
We shouldn't send foreign aid to any country that refuses to extradite to the US.
I really can't wait until the Middle East is pumped dry, so we pull all our troops and aid, and let them slaughter each other. Nothing but a big desert full of troublemakers.
I don't think we should send any chunk of our paychecks to support other countries that have healthcare when we don't have it our own selves.
All anyone actually needs for home protection is a shotgun and a cell phone. If someone wants to keep a rifle or two for hunting, nobody cares. More than that is bullshit and overkill. If you really need more, get your affairs in order. The group of homicidal maniacs that's after you is going to kill you anyway.
We've had legal limits on the weapons people can have since the founding. If a citizen is in a well-regulated militia, as the 2nd Amendment requires, there are still limits.
The silliest (and arguably stupidest) gun nuts are the ones who carp about "protection from the US government." America has the largest, deadliest and best trained military in the world. They can destroy any group, large or small, at will. They don't even have to be there to do it.
It makes absolutely no difference how many guns and thousands of rounds some crazy asshole stockpiles. That asshole is not taking down a stealth bomber, a pack of drones, a warship, a tank or a platoon. They're not even taking down Seal Team Six in the dead of night.
What they can take down is a classroom full of first graders. That's reality.
@Malibu Borebee… **standing ovation**
I mean look at Pine Ridge, Waco, Sandy Hook.. We just had our annual opening of the beach parade a couple weeks ago and the police rode a tank down the street right in front of my house
That is woefully incorrect, Brobee. If whoever has the larger army always wins, then we would be under a British flag right now, we would have won in Korea and Vietnam, and we wouldn't need "security forces" in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Then you have the conflict of American citizens actually firing upon American citizens. The USSR had it easy, where if there was unrest in the Ukraine, they would send Russians in. If there was trouble in Belarus, they could send Chechens in. Soldiers from Missouri feel no ill will towards people in Texas or Idaho.
I'm not talking lone lunatic there, or small group of crazies, I'm talking sweeping streets with women and children to kill the armed protesters.
Well so how do you feel about the forced home invasions searching for the so-called Boston Bomber, @Count?
Where is the line?
I'm coming more of a place of don't tell me *that* you feel a certain way about [insert issue here], tell me *why* you feel a certain way.
It boggles my mind that people keep getting on TTM for what they see as useless comments. If it's useless, why pay attention to it?
This is a gossip blog, not CNN. If you're going to get on TTM for not being useful, OK – I'll get on you for a grammatical error. A "women" hasn't been murdered, a woman has been murdered.
Expecting the comments here to be punctum saliens is like expecting there will be no "I made $4512 using this link" comments on TMZ. No one's here for actual news.
I think the Patriot Act is garbage and should be repealed.
I wouldn't let anyone in my house without a warrant. I wouldn't shoot the guys who are looking for a terrorist suspect, but I would have to be physically restrained and would try to find an attorney to file suit.
I'm no gun nut, and I think the militia guys are a bunch of wanna be hand jobs, but I don't like it when rights are whittled away. Especially when it is some grandstander, pandering to the rubes.
THERE IS NO WAY TO LEGISLATE AGAINST LONE LUNATICS. No gun law will make em go away or minimize the damage. No Patriot Act is going to deter a remotely competent terror plot. All the arrests I have heard of revolved around FBI informants who provided the money and materials. It is all trash designed for PR and to make the public say, "I feel safer. I bet if they took more of my rights I would feel even safer than I do now. I'm going to re-elect those assholes."
I <3 @TTM.. I really enjoy her comments and tidbits about Canada and the quasi-sarcastic banter between her daily buddies
But I will say it weighed damp on my heart the first comment on this thread — probably because I have a young child myself.
@Count.. I know, right? It's almost like they are rubbing our noses in it with these completely false and misleading brand names of "patriot acts" which corner the citizens into foregoing their very patriotism; the right and duty to uphold and defend the rights we were all told in grade school were guaranteed in the Constitution
“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”
? Frank Zappa
Wow three alts in one post! Someone has been busy!
@fancyscreenname hey I'm still running and puffing away lol there's hope! Seriously though I need to quit now more than ever…:/
Right, no one is here for the actual news. But it's ok for TTM to get her panties in a wad when a commenter calls a celeb's kiddo ugly. Hypocrisy knows no bounds, y'all.
Um, Unknown: ftr, lots of people "got their panties in a wad" over that one.
I'd love for all of you anti-weapon of your choice gals (and guys) to walk a moment in someone else's shoes… namely mine. Be a survivor of a home invasion burglary and rape. Imagine yourself only making out alive because you had to submit to being brutally raped and beat to shit and left to die. THEN tell me to sleep with FUCKING WASP SPRAY next to me. get outta here.
Which the 1st Amendment gives you the the right to do, Sherry!
@juicy.. wasp spray clearly is not an answer. it is merely an option. when I was 7, whether i had wasp spray, bug spray, stun gun, real gun, would have made no difference.
I became aware of a quote recently. Being in the face of adversity does not create character. It reveals it.
There is a time to mourn, and a time to move on.
I'm failing to see the connection.
If you don't like it, don't read it. If a poster bugs you, ignore them. (Unless they are actual jerks, then it's OK to bug them back. Jerks always need to be bugged back.) TTM can get her knickers in a knot over a post and if that annoys you, you can either ignore it or get your own britches in a knot. You've clearly chosen the latter path, "Unknown", and have thus negated your hypocrisy argument.
I'm sorry if my comment offended anyone, I wasn't meaning to seem flip in the light of a family tragedy. I just see this as so far outside the realm of normal marital relations that it seems bizarre. And that's what I was commenting on. Although I guess unfortunately it isn't all that rare.
totally get it.. how's the weather up thar, TTM? soo happy to be out of the snowshoe state and back in the sunshine state
I agree, you always make good sense to me Sherry
I never find your comments offensive TTM. I don't understand the vitriol you cop frequently. Stay yourself. You're a good egg
“I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.”
Churchill the Dog
I'll unlock my door, so that the police don't find it necessary to break it in. I just hope there are no robbers who will see this as an opportunity to rape and murder me while I am waiting.Maybe I should get a knife from the drawer to protect myself, since I was able to easily buy it, being over 18 and all.
Connection! It is ok for TTM to knock someone for shit she doesn't like. Everyone loses their minds when she gets called out on anything. Raspy had a valid point. If anyone else had made a tacky joke, you would have jumped down their throat as you are known to do, Seven. She has apologized. You come off as pompous as ever and it's over now.
Whatever point anti gun people make will immediately be countered by the gun lobby with rabid gun lovers to back them up. You can't have a reasonable discussion with them as they live in fear that "the Gubmint" will bring thugs to their house to take away their weapons. This is of course reinforced in many publications associated with the making and selling of guns, ammo and oater market add ons. Rumors of bills up for a vote, Obamas latest foray into dictatorship and helpless people attacked by thugs but saved by a gun abound. The defense of owning any gun you want is very well organized here in the US.
And you come off as obnoxious, "Unknown". I guess rational = pompous in your world.
I don't jump down people's throats when they make tacky jokes, but if I would, I'd use my name and not fly under "Unknown" because I lack the courage to associate myself with nasty remarks.
Oh, I'm sorry, I was all pompous again. Drat!