Friday, August 01, 2014

Your Turn

Do you think the two American Ebola victims should be brought back to the US?

147 comments:

QueenAnne Guido said...

I think a gossip blog is the correct forum for discussing global pandemics....WAAAAAAAy off topic.

Eros said...

Not a good idea. Even though there are probably carriers of the disease already in the states.

FSP said...

Send them to Canada

Gayeld said...

Nope.

sandybrook said...

If they can be cured here isn't it some sort of obligation to bring them here. In any case its better than treating them there.

FSP said...

They owe us for Bieber

Mich said...

Yes. They will get much better treatment here. They only had enough serum for one patient there.

fancyscreenname said...

dont know enough about ebola and im sure as hell aint gonna google so i guess i have no answer...

Tricia S said...

@FSP hahahahh

Dexamyl said...

It's contagious after death so they should only be returned in sealed coffins.

There's no treatment so it's not like they'd get better medical care here.

Dena said...

^5 @FSP!

Tricia S said...

And I agree with queenanne...way off Topic
But my answer is....send the best medical attention there......and treat as many as possible .

LottaColada said...

v5 @FSP

Dena said...

NO. That is some scary shit.

B626 said...

Outbreak!
Calling Dustin Hoffman!!

Violet said...

Oh no. Definitely not. Just leave them where they are to infect the locals instead.

Ray Nicolet said...

Ebola isn't an airborne disease and I don't leave near Atlanta so go head.

jack ducky said...

So we should just abandon our citizens if they go out and try to help the world and end up getting a disease? It's not like Ebola is an airborn disease so people need to chill.

skippy said...

Dexamyl, a bit harsh .
They should be here with their families & receive the best medical care that is available.
Amazing people who helped many.
I know it's highly contagious but will be contained in the US better than anywhere else.
Also Bieber is a pratt.

kpist said...

After just watching World War Z, I may be paranoid. But I feel that bringing them here is very dangerous. Every other country is trying to make sure that the disease doesn't enter their country, and we are willingly bringing it here. The patients were aware of their risks going over, they really shouldn't take the chance of bringing it here.

califblondy said...

All this Ebola stuff is freaking me out. I've got a family member out of the country right now and with the wars, planes being shot down, I'll just be glad when she gets back home.

Ray Nicolet said...

Live rather than leave. I refuse to delete my comment even tho i mispelled.

Nope said...

So you think we should just abandon the doctor who gave the only available serum to his colleague? The serum made from the blood of a child whose life he saved? There's a 90% mortality rate not 100. And we have the technology to prevent contaminated. Have a heart.

Barb Barbara said...

No. Occupational hazard and that should be understood by the workers and their families. Too contagious and deadly to bring here.

Nope said...

Yes. Ditto.

jack ducky said...

This could be an opportunity for the US to study the disease better and maybe find a cure for it. Whatever I bet you'd all feel very differently if it was your family member. Also the reason it spreads so much in Africa is because of the conditions they live in over there. It's a lot different here.

discoflux said...

Not until they're cured or cremated.

Pip said...

There is treatment, there is just no cure, Dex. People have survived ebola.

I think it is an awful idea to bring someone with ebola to a continent with no known cases of it.

Fancy, your organs stop functioning and you begin to bleed out. This can be from your nose, your vagina, anus, etc. It is a horrible virus. Even when one is dead, a person can catch it from fluids on the body.

Dena said...

:: )

Nope said...

*contamination I mean, obviously.

Pip said...

Jack, the US has been studying it at the CDC. The doctors who got it were wearing protective gear the entire time. I do feel for the families and the victims. I know I would feel differently if this was a loved one. But, it's not. Sending aid to Africa for the two doctors is fine. It is unsettling knowing that they are coming here.

jack ducky said...

Serious question and honestly not trying to start drama today but how is this any different than aids? It's treatable but not curable and it's spread through fluids. Should we also get rid of everyone with aids? Or other diseases like it? Where does one draw the line?

skippy said...

Ray ha I was wondering where you leave from.

Groggy said...

Definitely not. Too much can go wrong.

fancyscreenname said...

@pip thanx

Jeez...so I guess I'm a NO. HO..LEE..COW

meme deemed said...

No

No

No

And NOT to Canada, Australia or Europe.


Send them to China - Payback for SARs + H1N1

Renoblondee said...

I'm leaning towards no, but iffy.

rosie riveter said...

Could they be sent to arizona?

sandybrook said...

No they are headed to Emory University in Atlanta for treatment.

Pip said...

Ebola has a 90 percent mortalory rate and can kill quickly. Those with HIV can live for decades with the illness, as long as they follow doctors orders. There are various stages of HIV, and it can take a very long time before one has full blown AIDs, if they don't die of something else before it even reaches that stage.

Ebola hits fast and hard, while HIV is more drawn out, and the quality of life is much better.

QueenAnne Guido said...

I agree with many parts of what Ducky said.

Friends of mine work in the global health arena. The medical care in Africa and the resources available there are poor imitations of what we have here.

Ask yourself: if it were you or a loved one, would you be fine with not being transported home to your family and vastly superior medical care? What does your compassion say?

Pip said...

Mortality*

jack ducky said...

But it wasn't like that in the beginning. Ppl treated ppl with aids or HIV like y'all are talking about treating these Ebola patients. And I know the cdc has studied this disease before but having actual live people with the disease could help them find better treatment or a cure

Eros said...

Plus there is also the possibility of the current strain of ebola mutating and becoming airborne or becoming resistant to the antibiotics currently being administered to patients. Both scenarios are very real and possible scenarios that could happen at the drop of a hat.. Scientists are finding there is still much to learn about this disease.

Tina Mallette said...

I would be very surprised that the US does not have the technology or protocol to transport an infected person.

If the person who contracted ebola was the POTUS you better believe they'd be on their way to the US.

And exactly jack ducky in the early days of AIDS, no one had answers to a lot of questions.

QueenAnne Guido said...

I lived through the early heartless years of the AIDS crisis. A neighbor took in their nephew because his parents wouldn't allow him in their home.

His own parents turned their back on him. It was as shocking to me then as it is now decades later.


What would your compassion say?

Sherry said...

Ebola is an interesting epidemic. They aren't how where it starts and how it's contracted but there seems to be a break out every 10-15 years. Inexplicably starts and ends. That's what's made it so frustrating. They've traced it somewhat to two different things..Bushmeat and primates eaten. Still can't explain it.

I highly recommend "The Hot Zone". A true account of the Ebola outbreak in the 80's. Fascinating stuff.

And yes they should use every precaution possible to get these people back. It can be done and they could end up being the start of a vaccine that could save lots of lives.

Tina Mallette said...

At work we were just looking at the stock of a Canadian pharmaceutical company which is developing an Ebola drug

"TKM-Ebola, an anti-Ebola virus RNAi therapeutic, is being developed under a $140 million contract with the U.S. Department of Defense's Medical Countermeasure Systems BioDefense Therapeutics (MCS-BDTX) Joint Product Management Office. Earlier preclinical studies were published in the medical journal The Lancet and demonstrated that when siRNA targeting the Ebola virus and delivered by Tekmira's LNP technology were used to treat previously infected non-human primates, the result was 100 percent protection from an otherwise lethal dose of Zaire Ebola virus (Geisbert et al., The Lancet, Vol 375, May 29, 2010). In March 2014, Tekmira was granted a Fast Track designation from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for the development of TKM-Ebola."

meme deemed said...

If they are brought to the USA, none of my fam/friends will visit 'till its al gone.

Two films:

Contagion

28 Days

Good luck

Eros said...

Lmao... youre funnehh

Eros said...

Countdown to the zombie apocalypse in 5...4....3...2....1....

Cecily said...

No way. Just, no.

FS said...

I thought they were both already here. Yes, they are American citizens, we have medical facilities here that know what to do. Every person that comes into contact with them knows the risk. I'm more afraid of the random sick passenger coming into this country who isn't a medical professional.

jack ducky said...

If y'all are gonna start living your lives based on shit you've seen in movies then I feel really sorry for y'all.

MISCH said...

Yes, one of them was injected with an experimental vaccine and there was a blood transfusion done, this could be very important…
Think back how everyone freaked over HIV…time to use our heads

Count Jerkula said...

FUCK NO. Leave where they are and burn the corpses after they die.

We should squeeze the ebola infected and spray down Israel and Palestine w/ the juice, hoping the wind takes it deeper into the Middle East.

If not, just start nuking Africa. Think of all the foreign aid money we would save if it was turned to glass.

meme deemed said...

He he... kinda of getting a little craving pangs for brains...

Eros said...

Actually ebola should be the least of americas worries on the disease front. Stay out of the water kids. Theres been news reports and signs going up all around florida warning people to stay out of the water. 11 people this year so far have died from a flesh eating bacteria and I think 50 are sick suffering from it.but if its in the oceans that means its also in our seafood. Scary scary stuff...

hothotheat said...

Damn right, FSP

meme deemed said...

Count

I laughed out loud in my office!

Cheers!

meme deemed said...

The unknown possibility of the it mutating and morfing into an airborne version - is exactly why the treatment should be taken TO the infected, rather than play Russian Rulet (The Deer Hunter just for you Eros) and expose another nation.

Eros said...

Omg im going to hell....I laughed so hard at that shit.

If the moral police are perusing comments, I dont agree with the sentiment but that shit there was funny as hell

meme deemed said...

Could this be an outcome from the gulf oil spill few yrs back?

Wen said...

Ha Ha Ha FSP

astra worthington said...

Nope. I don't care that they were "making the world a better place". Charity begins at home and I'm sure they could've found some needy people in their own cities to help. They knew the risks, and they have no business coming here to potentially infect 300 million plus people. If that makes me evil, cruel and terrible, so be it. Better than dying in a terrible manner to satisfy some misguided sense of duty, or whatever motivates people like that.

auntliddy said...

All-if it were me, or a loved one, leave me/them where they are. My compassion is for the uninfected. Bad bad idea. They must hv a vacine they want to try out.

jack ducky said...

There is a reason the rest of the world hates America.

jack ducky said...

And if everyone thought like you the world would have ended long ago

meme deemed said...

Send the experts, CDC and facility to - them. Containment should be the 1st priority.

jack ducky said...

They've tried shit like that. Obviously hasn't worked

8====D KermitGossnellKnobjob said...

They will be dead and cremated before the plain leaves, and their ashes can rest wherever they wanted in life.
This illness doesn't take more than a week to kill in normal form. And if it's the non several form, there won't happen anything, as in Switzerland in 1994.

Eros said...

Smart! I totally agree, meme. Quarantine the sick. Send the vaccine to them so they can heal. No reason to risk sickening a whole group of people just so they can get home.

Eros said...

@ meme ...I havent researched it yet but evidently its been around for some years...im sure anything is possible at this point. Some woman in sc just died recent from it so I guess its not just restricted to florida.

kpist said...

jack, you don't really need movies, just google black plague, pandemics have and will happen again.

All Lace no Leather said...

@calif- I'm with you. My daughter is in Europe right now and I'm a little nervous too. She's been there a month and returns tomorrow. I'll feel much better when she's back home in her own bed.

meme deemed said...

@Eros - it's terribly news not only for those impacted but also for the local economy of the areas, especially in this economic climate. Having vacationed in Florida's gulf coast For many, many yrs, I know how much their communities rely on the tourism. Very sad - for them - and for folks like me who love visiting the gulf area (It's become a second home of sorts).

jack ducky said...

I'm quite aware of that, kpist

Caraface said...

OK first of all, Ebola doesn't have a 90% mortality rate. SOME strains do, but some strains only kill roughly half of those who are infected. That's still pretty awful, but I'd rather get a disease I have a 50% chance of beating than a 90% chance of beating.

The other thing to remember here is that these patients are being transferred to a research hospital that is designed for extreme quarantine situations. The CDC has samples of Ebola, Smallpox, H1N1, Anthrax etc and does testing and experiments with them all the time, yet no one is worried about that? Ebola is not airborne - you need to come in close contact with an infected person's bodily fluids in order to get it - and yes, viruses can mutate, but again, I'd worry more about the samples the CDC has kicking around in their lab more than this.

Count Jerkula said...

@Jack Ducky: Yeah, the rest of the world hates America because they are all jealous.

They could have developed oil refining, computers, cars, radio TV, etc. They could have bailed Europe out of 2 world wars and put the Japs in there place. Who did, America.

Our dollar makes the world go round and our military makes it relatively safe. 1 American life is worth 1000 non American. Harry Truman may not have said that w/ his words, but he sure as shit showed the world what the exchange rate was w/ them 2 bombs.

In conclusion, if they bring them infected morons back, I hope they fly Malaysian Airlines.

P.S. @MemeDeemed and Eros: Thanks.

jack ducky said...

You're delusional if you actually think that our lives are worth more becaue of where we're born/ live.

Trilby said...

Hell, NO. They chose their fate.

Eros said...

@ Cara That isnt correct...I would cite sources if I wasnt on a phone. Saying the mortality rate is 90 pct is being generous. Part of the reason is that once the disease is contracted, it kills the host very quickly which is why the chances for the disease turning into a pandemic are very slim. This information is being cited from tom ceiden of the cdc as a resource.

Count Jerkula said...

@Jack Ducky: No, It is based in facts and reality. We bombed the living shit out of Iraq and Afghanistan because American lives are worth more than their citizens lives. "Fight em over their, so we don't have to fight em over here."

P.S. Name calling isn't going to help your hopeless argument. The fact that you had to resort to it shows how weak your point is.

rosie riveter said...

You're such a fucking redneck piece of shit to make such idiotic statements. and meme& eros clearly aren't much better. This type of bullshit is EXACTLY why America is the laughingstock of the world. LoL. Fool. Fuck, I seriously can't believe you procreated.
And for all you that wanna jump on ME for checking count, eat shit. I could seriously care the fuck less.

astra worthington said...

Thanks Count. If I'm to follow the logic of some here, the rest of the world hates us so we have to import one of the world's deadliest and most horrific diseases? And we have to sacrifice ourselves, and endanger the lives of 300+ million people, because to not do so makes you a compassionless monster? Where's the compassion for those 300+ million people, who do matter?

If you want a First World country, perhaps YOU need to work as hard as First World citizens, and their ancestors, worked to achieve it. Nobody would condone people being handed PhD's, so why are we expected to essentially hand them a functioning continent? We have been trying to do just that for how long now, and what good has it done? How many more trillions of dollars do we have to throw at Africa and other places, at our own detriment? This may be cruel, but when does compassion become national suicide? When do we say ENOUGH, and start helping people who might actually have a chance to make life in your country and community better?

Sure, I feel bad for these people and I wish them well. But you simply can't save everyone and charity does begin at home.

jack ducky said...

Work as hard as first world citizens? Lol that's a joke. America is what it is because of slaves and immigrants who didn't have a choice.

jack ducky said...

No it's not based in fact it's based in Americans thinking their lives are worth more. They're not. We're all humans. Just because you were lucky to be born in a rich country doesn't mean your live is more important.

jack ducky said...

*life

SusanB said...

They're American citizens. We should take care of our own. Emory is eminently qualified to take care of them (I used to work across the street at the pediatric hospital) and it's LITERALLY one block down from the CDC. Those above talking about the flesh-eating disease - they're right, I'm a lot more worried about that. And you want to worry about disease - worry about what's being brought across our southern border by the poor people of Mexico, Guatemala, etc. There are several forms of TB floating around in that group and I'm hearing rumoros about Hansen's disease (leprosy) among some people. The two Americans being brought to Emory are the LEAST I'm worried about.

Eros said...

Whose descendants are now american descendants. Ducks your point is moot. The point astra is trying to make I think is that all americans built this country- from various ethnic and racial backgrounds. This country is a product of all our united efforts.

astra worthington said...

Of course! America was single handedly built by slaves and immigrants, those dastardly Europeans just sat on their laurels and cackled evilly and cracked that whip! If that's the case, then why didn't the returned slaves that were repatriated to Liberia, turn Liberia into a thriving paradise with all their know-how and skills? If they built this country, why didn't they do it again there?

My life is more important TO ME than the lives of some people halfway around the world. Why should I care about Africa to the extent of endangering my life, and the lives of 300+ million fellow citizens? When we get a case of Hantavirus here, or Valley Fever, do we demand that Africa, Asia, or Europe take some of the victims?

I'm sorry, but self-preservation and good sense is not some horrible character flaw, despite what you think. If you have a death wish and think that America can atone for it's sins by endangering, or killing, millions, then that's your issue. Don't you dare tell others that we are morally bankrupt and terrible for not wanting to flagellate ourselves and literally die for someone else's sins. Last time I checked, my name isn't Jesus.

Meanie Rhysie said...

Some of these comments...just heartless and soulless. Sometimes I hate my fellow humans. :(

jack ducky said...

Same

jack ducky said...

The Europeans came here. Slaughtered the rightful owners of the land and then enslaved people to build the country they wanted. So that's what you recommend other countries do?

Zoe Cialite said...

This should not be up to us to decide. They are Americans and it's their inalienable right to return to this country, where they will get the best care - unless they go to a VA hospital where they'll be told to wait for maybe a few months to a few years. Also, two Americans with ebola are no match to a family of Kardashians, who harbor a host of deadly pathogens still unknown to science.

astra worthington said...

Where did I say that? You are saying that Europeans brought nothing to this country other than misery. They contributed NOTHING else, that every non-European is responsible for all the good, and the Euros are responsible for all the bad. You apparently think that because of events from 200 years ago, that all Americans should be required to atone for sins that were committed before any of us were born. Do I have this right? That's your justification for allowing Ebola into this country, because Europeans who founded America are terrible, so two wrongs make a right and the only way you'll be satisfied is if they die horribly?

fancyscreenname said...

race baiting? seriously? u two lesbians need to CHILL IT!

jack ducky said...

No my justification for allowing them into this country is they're American citizens who deserve to be treated by the best medicine possible because it is treatable just not curable and even if they die they deserve to die as painlessly as possible in their home country.

Pip said...

Jack, AIDS research was in its infancy when it began spreading throughout America. There has been plenty of research on ebola, and there is still a 90 percent mortality rate. There is no comparison. I do see what you are trying to say, but I just do not agree. I feel bringing the treatment to those infected would have been the best choice.

astra worthington said...

I am NOT a lesbian! Nothing wrong with it but I am not one! And I didn't start it, just pointed out how insane it is to think that simply because of your skin color, ancestry, and country's history, that you are somehow obligated to welcome a deadly disease into your country and put millions of people at risk. Many who are not white, may be recent immigrants from war-torn nations, etc. It's not like Ebola is going to only kill the Europeans who had bad ancestors, it doesn't discriminate. That's all I'm saying!

Ruby said...

My first reaction was to panic thinking of the book "Hot Zone." But these are two brave selfless workers and we can't abandon them. They need and deserve to be brought home so they can at least receive the best care possible and have a chance. They'll be catefully quarantined.

astra worthington said...

But you're right FSN, this is another one of those fights that cannot be won. So I'll stop! Who knows, maybe she'll get her way and every evil American will die horribly. Then she can have a party, maybe dance on a few graves. Sounds like the morally superior thing to do.

OK I'm really done now, phew!

jack ducky said...

Fuck off. I'm plenty chill and is calling me a lesbian suppose to be an insult? How old are you?

Tina Mallette said...

Thank you Caraface for injecting some rationality into this discussion.

And in terms of mortality rates there is another possible factor to consider and that is that the Americans infected probably have better immune systems than the Africans who die of Ebola - I may be wrong but it's a possibility.

And to add to what Caraface outlined, Ebola virus is already sitting in multiple labs in North America because that's the only way to do research to cure it which is in all our best interests.

And to freak y'all out some more

Scientists Find Aggressive New HIV Strain
Dec. 3, 2013


skippy said...

@Count, I'm not one to name call, but you're an idiot. Every life is of equal worth.
Also a little spelling lesson,
There - a place
Their- belonging to someone or something
They're - they are
You're welcome(you are)

Eros said...

Lol... astra I dont think that comment made by screen was directed to you, hon.

Tina Mallette said...

Of course I would think the military has some kind of plane especially set up to quarantine, since apparently they are funding research into a cure for Ebola. They probably have underground bunkers as well. I mean these Americans are not going to be flown back in commercial airliners.

If all the evil people died, the remaining population would be pretty small. Everyone, every culture has blood on their hands.

Eros said...

Ad to thst these people - the dr and the volunteer made the decision to put themselves in a disease infested hotzone. We all are given decisions in life and it sucks when it doesn't pan out the way one wants. How many potential lives are worth 2? 5, 50, 100.... those are the numbers you could potentially face by bringing disease ridden people here.

Add to that all the many ambiguities regarding how the disease was contracted. A number of doctors have died from this. People who took every precaution to avoid contracting the disease. Its not clear if they are telling us everything about how this disease is being contracted and also these researchers continue to learn new things every day about how this disease functions. Common sense would make a n every day person say perhaps bringing a virus her that kills instantly and makes some bleed from every orifice isnt a god day.

Eros said...

That last part I agree with

Eros said...

Good idea not god day lol

Eros said...

Good idea not god day lol

Tina Mallette said...

For example the native tribes of North America did not all get along. Some of the tribes were more warrior like, others were more passive. Then as now people are fighting for resources.

For example the Iroquois were and would say they still are a warrior tribe. Long story if you live around here. The Iroquois helped the British defeat the French.

I saw some native people fighting online over an article about land claims and treaties, because a descendant of another tribe said your people stole OUR land, where's our compensation.

fancyscreenname said...

@astra

not u ...

fancyscreenname said...

@just ducky

lesbian is a correct label for u and Rosie, amirite?

u2 are argumentative...

jack ducky said...

No my name is a correct label for me

fancyscreenname said...

pfft...

lol

so is argumentative

kit said...

Hate to tell you, Ebola (and there are several strains) is already in the US. CDC, NIH, and others have been working with it for three decades. It and the Marburg virii. Hemorragic fevers are vile, but there is no reason that two US tax-paying citizens cannot come home.

Pity us if we don't know how to contain such things.

And we already do.

Hence - of the 30 outbreaks in the last 30 years, they have all been contained to a massively localized series of villages and areas within 8 countries, all sub-Saharan and within central Africa.

rosie riveter said...

What the fuck does being lesbian have to do w it?? My god, are u fucking 13?? and so long as we are labeling, fancyscreenname you are a fucking idiot. Hey, if the label fits....

kit said...

Btw, the mortality rate in the outbreaks since the 70s, ranges from 0 to 100% in each defined incident. In fact, in the 2008 outbreak in Kasai Province (Congo), there was a 47% mortality rate.

fancyscreenname said...

@rosie

u2 are the only hostile one's in this thread. name calling and race baiting. in bad taste but par for the course with u two.

u just called someone a fucking redneck. u are a foul mouthed wench. u and that other one need to go fuck yourselves


OR each other.

kit said...

Info

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/resources/outbreak-table.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_disease

and a paper on the disease's manifest history
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/resources/bulletin_1983_61(6)_997-1003.pdf

kit said...

Info

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/resources/outbreak-table.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_disease

and a paper on the disease's manifest history
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/resources/bulletin_1983_61(6)_997-1003.pdf

Count Jerkula said...

@jackDucky: if you think the entire country was founded on slaves, you have never opened a history book. Beaver, cod and timber were more important than plantations in building this country. And you contradict yourself by mentioning immigrants. Those are people who did have choices and they chose to be Americans, because it is the best place to be.

I await the next couple sentences of fail out of you.

skippy said...

@Kit, thanks for the info.

Count Jerkula said...

Yes Jack, American lives are worth more. 5 Arabs out of Guantanamo for 1 American soldier. Innovation of drone strikes to keep from risking American lives in planes. You can be in denial if you want, but Americans are top of the food chain. Holding yer breath and stompin yer foot aint changing that.

Count Jerkula said...

Rosie: yer a worthless pig, so you dont even rate as human and dont enter into the valuation. The warts on a crack whore's cunt have more value than you.

Laughing stock of the world? Yer developmentally disabled, aint ya? As America goes, the world goes. From consumption of goods to tourism our economy is the heartbeat of the world.

#CheckThisYouPig

Count Jerkula said...

@susanb: f that. They put themselves in harms way, their on their own. I feel the same way about the moron who put his family on a boat with intentions to sail around the world and failed 2 weeks in out in the middle of the ocean. America is yer country, not yer nanny.

Count Jerkula said...

Skippy: yer wrong. Every life is not worth the same. Yer in a sinking boat with a junkie and a nun. Neither can swim and you can only save one. who do you save?
Case closed.

Count Jerkula said...

P.S. grammar copping, really? Are you 12?

Count Jerkula said...

@fancy: the correct terms to use when describing Rosie are "pig" and "human garbage".

JSierra said...

Don't feel like doing research, but I thought Ebola was too deadly to be a successful plague/outbreak/apocalypse? It doesn't hang around long enough and keep people alive long enough for it to jump through the population at a rate to be worried about? Again, I don't feel like doing research so don't flip a bitch switch if that is totally wrong.

They knew the risks going into it. If they were my loved ones I would want them here. If I were them I would understand that I made a choice to expose myself and consequences come with my actions. These two can't possibly be the first Americans in the history of ever to contract Ebola while overseas, why is their situation such a big deal now? Have we always just quietly let them die in Africa or quietly flown them into a CDC somewhere and none of us were any the wiser? Maybe Ebola is already ravaging the country and these two men are about to become scapegoats for the epidemic. It's easier for the people in charge to blame the two who knowingly exposed themselves and knowingly exposed the rest of us. Who knows, I'm off on a tangent now but it's just sketch to me that all of a sudden two Americans who contracted a deadly disease overseas are being made into this massive news story. Again, I'm not doing research so for all I know they could be the only Americans in 20 years to come down with any sort of somewhat threatening illness/disease while out of the country.

It's a dick move to tell them they can't come back, it's a dick move for them to knowingly and willingly expose themselves and then want to bring it back here (yeah yeah it's already in labs in CDC's all over the nation, assume the rest of the public doesn't realize that), I honestly think it's kind of a dick move to single these two out when who knows how many Americans contract and die from diseases while overseas and no one but their families care. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what the fuck any of us think. There is an agenda here and we are all just along for the ride.

Alexa Rose said...

No, I don't see the point in risking millions of lives to bring 2 American aid workers back. They knew the risks when they went to Africa. I am sure they would not want their loved ones exposed to this terrible disease either. If they were my family members I would feel the same way, I wouldn't want the rest of my family potentially exposed.

Also, is it really fair to expect the hospital workers, morticians, and custodians to take the risk of being exposed to this? They are probably only bringing them back to experiment on them to find a vaccine or test something on them.

As for everyone hating America/Americans, if they hate us so much they can stop accepting our foreign aid and money. If you hate being American so much go try living in another country and see how much happier you are and how much better you won't be treated.

BeeZwaxx said...

Wow!

court court said...

Yes. They are American citizens. If it's really out of control it will get here, or probably already is here. They deserve to be treated with respect and given the best treatment. If we can't contain them, we should all be much more worried about ds other than Ebola.

jack ducky said...

@fsn, I wasn't hostile nor did I call anyone names. You on the other hand have done both but whatever.

@count, I'm not going to argue with you anymore. Not because I can't because I could easily go on with this for days but mostly because I like you and also because we're both dead set in our beliefs and we'd just go back and fourth for however long and there's no point because what's gonna happen is gonna happen.

I would just like to end by saying if we treated everyone who's ever had a disease the way y'all are suggesting we treat these people then we wouldn't have a cure for anything and we'd all have died long ago.

And as for the person who said if I hate America then I should move believe me as soon as I can save enough money I plan to.

Anyway I hope most of you have a great weekend. Some of you I don't really care if you have a great weekend or not.

CanadianMiss said...

:(

Count Jerkula said...

If we could move on to something much more important:

Selena Gomez appears to be in full advertising mode, showing off some buttcheek bottoms, in short shorts, and a nice thigh bruise. SFW

To put it in pro wrestling terms, she is doing a slow turn, dropping hints here and there, building up anticipation for the day she goes Full Whore in public. By the time it happens we'll all be on the edge of our seats and she'll get a nice sized chunk of change for a "leaked" sex tape or full frontal in a movie.

I hope she grows a big full bush for either. If I'm gonna have 1 shot at seeing her naked, I wanna see if the bush is as thick and luxurious as the hair on her head.

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fancyscreenname said...

@count
;^)

meme deemed said...

"New world countries" (i.e. USA, Canada, Australia/New Zealand) were all discovered, settled and developed by immigrants. All have histories where the discoverers conquered/abused/killed the native peoples of those lands. And though since those days, many generations have been born in these newly founded countries, no ones genealogy is "American" or "Canadian" or "Australian". Everyone's roots came from somewhere else.

meme deemed said...

@Zoe:
"Also, two Americans with ebola are no match to a family of Kardashians, who harbor a host of deadly pathogens still unknown to science."

LMAI!!!

Well Said!

But we must add Ho Lohan in the ww level 69 threat of all sorts of unknown deadly infectious diseases.!

meme deemed said...

"Everyone, every culture has blood on their hands."

Agreed.

It's unfortunate that after thousands of years, humans haven't evolved all that much from their base construct of reacting to their fight-or-flight / conquer or be conquered instinct.

For all of our spurts of advancement and incredible genius, it seems we always retreat back to that "base" ego-self, rather than move forward - away from the "I" and towards the "we". Imagine what we could accomplish if the "we" took priority on this planet?

(we keep taking the red pill. Well, I'd like to take the blue pill now please!) <-- that one's for you @Eros - The Matrix

Slim Peachy said...

Meme Deemed is a grade a moron.

28 days later and Contagion are relatable to this how exactly?????

Maybe you should join your friends out of the country permanently. Ignoramuses like yourself aren't worthy to live in first world society.

CaliGirlinVA said...

Ebola has been in the US. There was an infected shipment of monkeys in Reston, VA. Richard Preston's book The Hot Zone was about Ebola Reston.

As a healthcare professional, I wouldn't have allowed them back in the states. Maybe CDC wants to test out their isolation centers.

meme deemed said...

Slim Peachy: Your lack of human genes is showing. Nice try at imitating a humanoid on this planet. Bugger back off where you truly belong.

meme deemed said...

Count

She has The Madams of HWood as her guiding light to whore famedom - Lohan, Hilton, Kartrashians

They'd be more than happy to draw her a map should she forget how to fuck or fuck up her life.

caydian said...

I've read "The Hot Zone." Absolutely terrifying. Ebola t will melt your organs, give you high temperature, make you bloated, separate skin from muscles, make your testicles change color and peel, give you red eyes and you will literally bleed out through every orifice & pore. Everyone (and I mean EVERYONE) who reads it...they all give similar reviews: Spine-chillingly horrific.