Monday, December 18, 2017

Today's Blind Items - The Monster Icon

This foreign born permanent A list entertainer has always had a shadowy reputation.   Back in the day, he capitalized on it and it was part of his image.  We'll call him Mr. C.  What most people may not realize is that our entertainer's dark side wasn't just for publicity, it's really who he is.  But to understand this, we have to look way back at Mr. C's childhood.  He grew up in a different time and was exposed to some graphic life experiences that many of us can't imagine.  Mr. C had a very dark side from a young age, and many kids in the neighborhood where he grew up quickly learned that he was a strange and twisted individual.  Animals in the neighborhood kept disappearing and the kids our entertainer was alone with frequently suffered from unusual injuries.  One story that has been told involved another boy. He and Mr. C were playing with plastic swords and somehow the other boy found himself stabbed through the eye with Mr. C's sword.  Of course at the time, this was assumed to be an unintentional freak accident between two boys.  The injured boy spent months in the hospital and lost his eye as a result.  This is one of the many stories that have floated around about our entertainer and his growing up years.  It got even more interesting when Mr. C got into his teen years and began attracting girls.  He had a strange personal magnetism and although not conventionally handsome, could get girls to do pretty much whatever he wanted from a young age.  This caused problems and at several points in his early teen years, police became involved due to complaints from the parents of neighborhood girls.  There is also the story of the teenage girl, from Mr C's neighborhood, who died suspiciously.  The death was eventually ruled a suicide, but chatter among the old 'hood has been filled for years with speculation that it was a sex game gone wrong or murder or both. Much has been written about Mr. C over the years and writers and filmmakers have attempted to talk to people in Mr. C's old neighborhood about his childhood.  Old friends have been approached, and some of the responses have been dubious or the people just flat out refused to talk at all about our entertainer at all.   The dubious responses, of course, were never published. 

As he got older and became involved in the entertainment business, Mr. C's tendencies were actually in demand by many of those in power.  Our entertainer would do anything, no matter how deviant, with anyone, to further his success.  The more twisted, the better.  During those years, media was not what it is today, so it was much easier to operate in the shadows with these tendencies and not be exposed.  Mr. C's debauched and deviant lifestyle continued in the extreme as he became wealthier and more famous.  His proclivities were an open secret and in some circles, the behavior was praised, encouraged and admired.  As mass media has became the norm, Mr C. has had to ramp down his activities considerably, after several close calls with the police.  Recently, an acclaimed investigative Journalist was approached by an individual with information about Mr C and his activities. The rumor is that the source is alleging that Mr C's pattern of travel to a number of cities many years ago corresponds to the disappearances of young women in those same cities.  The source of this information has also told the Journalist that they attempted to bring these alleged connectionis knowledge to the attention of the authorities, and were brushed off as a crackpot.  This source even tried to bring Mr C's past reputation and activities to the attention of a prestigious organization that was honoring him a few years ago, and they ignored the information also.  Due to all the recent sex predators being exposed, Mr. C is on alert and is looking to cover his tracks.  Lots of checks are being written to silence people.  Watch for some diversionary gestures soon as clues.  The Journalist is also pursuing this story hard right now because coincidentally, someone he knows also had a very frightening encounter with Mr. C. years ago.  If anything is uncovered, this story is going to be huge.

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bsj1983 said...

I think it's Gerard Depardieu. Mr. C-yrano De Bergeac. Hiding in the shadows.

He had an incredibly violent childhood, worked as a prostitute, robbed graves, punched people up at random, stole a car, and is DEFINITELY not conventionally attractive.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/celebrity-news/the-a-list/now-trending-gerard-depardieu-reveals-shocking-past-in-new-book/article20944827/

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2000/dec/22/culture.features

Unknown said...

Anthony Hopkins, “Back in the day”...he was nominated for Remains of the Day... also, he played a monster in Silence of the Lambs, and he also found success as an older actor.

Mark said...

DDL: mind blowing? Wasn't Lincoln shot in the head?

Mike said...

I like Cronenburg as an alleged possibility. Earlier today I was thinking what his "tendencies" were that could have been in demand considering the serial killer angle. How about snuff films?

Fozzy Bear said...

There is only one part of this Blind Item that matters as far as identifying the perpetrator from publicly available sources. The story "has been told". Somebody has this story, it must appear in a book or article that is publicly available. Identify the story, and you reveal Mr C. It's so resistant to Google-fu that it's probably offline in a bunch of library archives. None of that would prove that "the source" is correct about the "pattern", but it would identify who Enty is talking about. It's a graphic little story, somebody must have heard it and remember who it is about.

"One story that has been told involved another boy. He and Mr. C were playing with plastic swords and somehow the other boy found himself stabbed through the eye with Mr. C's sword. Of course at the time, this was assumed to be an unintentional freak accident between two boys. The injured boy spent months in the hospital and lost his eye as a result. This is one of the many stories that have floated around about our entertainer and his growing up years."

just sayin' said...

darwinite: it's this logic that keeps bringing me back to jimmy page. he's the only one who had a well-known proclivity, for young girls. this story has been told for years, openly. at the time it wasn't maligned as it it today. also, his dark, occult practices are a story that he's told openly. his well-cultivated, mysterious persona. look at the first view we have of him in "the song remains the same". he's sitting on the ground, turns around, and his eyes are glowing orange coals.

Ouiser Boudreaux said...

I’ve heard great things about Alice Cooper. I would think he’s too busy playing golf and being a decent person to be trying to dodge allegations.

katsm0711 said...

If anyone wants to know why it isn’t Alice Cooper, watch the doc, “Supermensch: The Legend of Shep Gordon”. Just watch it anyways, it’s amazing.

Fozzy Bear said...

@just sayin'
I don't give a crap about the logic. I hate all these uninformed guesses - these are real people we are gossiping about, and in many cases slandering. Find the story that has been told about the future entertainer putting a kid's eye out when he was himself a child, and tell me who it's about. Then we can match up the other details to confirm. Everything else is unverifiable gossip.

I want to see the pedos and the killers and the rapists locked up in the deepest dungeon - burn Hollywood to the ground, if need be - but I refuse to listen to these morons throwing out random names, without providing anything (besides muh feelings) to back up their stupid assertions.

JoeJoeyJoseph said...

Mr. C could also be for SEAgal.

Himmmm said...

Okay, lookit my friends...

It is NOT:

Gene Simmons
Jean Simmons
Jimmy Page
Patti Page
Anthony Hopkins
Adam Ant
Adam West
Adam & Eve
Alice Cooper (really? that guy's awesome)
Jack Nicholson
Jack Frost
Gerard Depardieu
Gerard Butler
Jerry Lewis
Daniel Day Lewis
Daniel J. Travanti
Daniel in the Lion's Den
nor is it
Rich Little! (sorry for guessing that one earlier).
It is NONE of these listed above.

I guessed a real guess in a comment early this morning.
Go back and find it if you wanna.
Therein lies the answer.
It's "Mr. Charming" himself.

Himmmm said...

and for those unable to go back to the 1am/4am comment, my guess was MORRISSEY.

garrisonwrites said...

Kelsey Grammar
Mr. C - Frazier Crane
Born in the US Virgin Islands (not exactly foreign born, but maybe Enty fudged this a bit?)

"He grew up in a different time and was exposed to some graphic life experiences that many of us can't imagine."
Not sure if this qualifies:From IMDB Trivia: His father was murdered, in 1968, in the Virgin Islands. His sister, Karen Elisa Grammer, was murdered, in 1975, while finishing a shift working at a Red Lobster in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Had two stepbrothers (from his father's second marriage) that were killed in a shark/scuba accident.

Made a movie entitled Neurotic Tendencies.

Past reputation and activities: Crossdresser/Kinkmeister is how Eonline described him. http://www.eonline.com/news/220124/kelsey-grammer-a-cross-dressing-kinkmeister-camille-drops-some-clues

Doorlocks said...

I'm another lurker inspired to post by this especially juicy blind. I'm throwing Werner Herzog into the mix as a guess. He's German, has a long and acclaimed career including recent honors from the AFI, DGA, Cannes, etc., and he's a director/composer/writer/actor. He maintains a loner, tortured genius persona. He was BFFs with Klaus Kinski.

Born in 1943, he was exposed to WWII Germany and the aftermath. Herzog's family fled bombing raids on Munich, settling in an isolated village with no electricity, running water, or modern communication. And then his father abandoned the family. After living basically in the 19th century as a child, he spent most of his teen years in Munich. While still a teenager he briefly moved to Pittsburgh and then tried to move to the Congo (only making it to Sudan), both times on his own.

This love of international travel defined his film career, with most of his movies shot on location over extended periods of time. He especially likes filming in Africa and South America, but he's been basically everywhere. And a lot of his work involves and focuses on locals/indigenous people.

Even if not Herzog, I feel like guesses should focus on directors, athletes, stand-ups, magicians, and so on. Not actors or singers.

PapayaSF said...

Based on Himmmm's guess, a quick Google found this from 2004:

https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/morrissey-the-serial-killer-that-never-was.37413/

I've always thought that if Morrissey had never discovered singing/songwriting as an outlet, he'd be a damn fine candidate for the proud profession of Serial Killer. Think about it.

The characteristics of a serial killer include:

- White male, 35 to 35 years old
Check.

- Charming, somewhat superficial and self-important
We can't deny that this charming man has an, er, HEALTHY ego.

- Cunning and manipulative
Remains to be seen, but I'm sure Mike Joyce would have a few words on this.

- Blames others for their actions
Again, debatable; see Mike Joyce case and unpaid tour members debaucle.

- Bipolar disorders

- A resentment of society brought on by their own failings

- An inability to be social
It's widely known that Morrissey does not enjoy being social.

- Mother fixation
Someone was once quoted as saying that Morrissey's mother "always ran the show, and still runs the show."

- Facination with other serial killers
Hindley murders? Various London gang members (one of whom Moz sent a wreath to for their funeral)?

- Homophobism, or latent bi- or homosexuality which the subject refuses to aknowledge

One could always accuse me of thinking too much.

Guesser said...

I am still leaning, towards Simmons due to recent events,but the Kelsey Grammar and Jimmy Page guesses are good. A lot of strange deaths and behavior surrounding them. I will also throw in Pete Townsend, someone did mention him, I now believe there is more to the pedophilia story,and he hangs with royals. He did experience abuse as a child,and grew up during wartime. The Morrissey guess confuses me,he does not have connections to people in power,rather has distain for them. I sometit think he shoots off his mouth for attention, and it backfires. I wonder if Enty will cancelled some guesses out like he did with MV.

InCatNeto said...

My problem with it being Morrissey...

1. If this is truly a "huge" story, why have I never heard of this guy, or his band, The Smiths, before now. If I read a head-on be tomorrow about any of these accusations- I'd think, "So?"

2. He's vegetarian. And very outspoken on being anti-killing of animals.(Meat is Murder) I guess you could make an argument that he's doing that for his image, but dang... this guy seems like the type who wants everyone to think he's weird rather than actually be weird. His love of all things dark is just too over the top. Like, he'd see people thinking this is about him as some kind of compliment. That in combination with his lyrics.. it's just too much. Again, who is this guy? I wound up with more search results relating to the Walking Dead.

3. Not a point against Morrissey... but it's about the only "clue" I discovered after searching for an embarrassing amount of time. (I swear, I only have 2 cats) Do yourself a favor a Google "Morrissey "sword"" and take a look at the images. I laughed and learned about sometime new today. So there's that.

Amused said...

+1000 @HIMMMM and @PapayaSF for Morrissey. I woke up this morning knowing that the blind wasn't right for Simmons or Page... Reading up on Morrissey as a child in Manchester; was severely affected by the Moors murders (5 children were murdered, 4 sexually assaulted), and even wrote a song about it (Suffer Little Children).The kids were just a few years older than him, which would be disturbing, as a child. Also, recently defended Weinstein... I'm on EST and so tired, lol. I would say more, if I shouldn't have been asleep 4 hours ago! :P

Amused said...

@InCatNeto Love your name! Also, some really interesting points... Can't wait to read the updates after I get some sleep!

Motörhead said...

Uri Geller Mr C (I.A.), very shadowy, travelled and was powers that be were interested in him. Quite a lot of fits.

Starry-eyed said...

Bob Geldof JUST announced this http://www.eveningecho.ie/oneaday/Bob-Geldof-donates-Band-Aid-materials-to-National-Library-of-Ireland-102230e4-dc58-49b4-ac34-cb90baa5c69e-ds

He also moves in high circles, being a knight kind of makes you permanent A list. And entertainer, he's more of an entertainer than a singer specifically.

Very weird stuff as a child.

Flossy said...

How about Uri Geller? The only thing that doesn't seem to fit is the unconventional looks as he has apparently done a bit of modelling. Blind mentions magnetism. Mr C as in Conjurer.

Flossy said...

@Motorhead sorry didnt see your comment before posting. Would also explain 'mind-blowing'. Of course i forgot about the CIA link. Could that be the powerful people reference perhaps.

Flossy said...

Holy Shit it's him! Googled 'Uri Geller monster' and it turns out he sued Nintendo for creating a pocket monster pokemon card based on him.

garrisonwrites said...

I agree with @InCatNeto with all due respect to @Himmmm and anyone else I'm about to disappoint.

Morrissey isn't A-List to me. I don't know one of his songs, nor would I be able to pick him out in a lineup. I have heard the name but that's as far as it goes.






lutefisk said...

@Himmmm. Morrissey has always been a loner, a proclaimed celibate, and an animal rights activist. I have problems with trying to get those traits to fit. By the way, it took me years to realize he was singing
"I am the son
and the heir
of a shyness that is criminally vulgar
I am the son and heir
of nothing in particular"
and NOT
"I am the sun
and the air..."

lucy said...

lmao I cannot believe this is Morrissey! I LOVED the Smith's, probably was my favorite band at one time. but I never cared much for Morrissey I really dug Johnny Marr though and he was kind enough to reply to my letter in a forum ,many years ago. I asked him if M everasked him before a show if his pants made his ass look fat LOL. I can also say marrs favorite boardgame at the time was Star Wars Monopoly. his screen saver was “liquid lights” and his favorite cereal = fruitbix.
he was cool as hell and said he really liked my letter, made me feel awesome. oh and his favorite song is gimme shelter! mine too! (swoon)

my apologies to Mr Sutherland.

Mark said...

@himmmm, on November 13, 2017, enty revealed Morrissey as the "A list singer" in a 2014 blind. Would Morrissey have graduated to "permanent A list entertainer" over the last 3 years?

http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/blind-items-revealed-4-anniversary-month_13.html

just sayin' said...

well alrighty then, mr./ms. himmmm! so we can also take jim carrey off the list?
to be fair you playacted like you had no real clue yesterday so we went along our merry way. this is indeed mind-blowing.

for those who won't have read himmmm's or this or any other comment before posting gene simmons again as their original idea, if himmmm says it, it is so.

also to americans not familiar with morrissey/the smiths, you should know that at least one of the himmmm/entytys is a brit and very locked in to the music scene (my deduction based on blinds subject matter), in fact a "famous musician" we'd all know (stated by himmmm, who says there are 4 of himmmm sharing one username). hence the importance placed on morrissey that doesn't translate here among the wider populace. if i hadn't been married to a 70's ny punk rocker i probably wouldn't know them either.

Mark said...

Song lyrics including "plastic sword," anyone? John Mayer is out. Any others?

Alexandria said...

I admit I overthinked that blind, I'm never sure what "permanent A list" means and I was looking for someone HUGE, iconic, well known, wealthy and with apparent link to politics, someone who maybe could be Bohemian Grove guest ( because - "Mr. C's tendencies were actually in demand by many of those in power." - probably I misunderstood).
My first thought while reading blind was Bill Cosby, but he's an american and the rest also doesn't fit anyways.

While going through "iconic entertainers" big part of these "entertainers" are musicians, so I assumed it must be someone big like Michael Jackson.

Intriguing blind though, especially part about his travel pattern and missing women in the same cities, I was curious as hell.


just sayin' said...

i find this recent defensive comment from morrissey telling. rather than coming from his heart, his comments show his fixation on having an appearance of innocence and the impact bad deeds would have on his career, rather than on victims. i now picture him practicing how to make his singing voice sound "sincere":

"Suddenly, I was sympathizing with sexual harassment. I was apparently sympathizing with paedophilia, I was sympathizing with rape, I was sympathizing with everything that would persuade anybody on the planet to stop listening to me. Of course, none of those assumptions are true. I do not sympathize with anything like that. You can hear it in the tone of my voice…"

garrisonwrites said...

.@justsayin'

Ah ok, an English connection then. So A list in his part of the world or his genre.

An English Permanent A-lister to me would be someone like Phil Collins or Ray Davies. I'd give A+ to the Stones and Zeppelin guys.

Whomever the subject is, I hope these crimes come to light soon.

Thanks for clearing that up @justsayin'

AppleThief4Elliot said...

Uri Gellar is sort of interesting, but he's surely not permanent A-List. And does he show off a dark nature? He does sort of loopy mentalism and claims it's real powers.
All things considered, I am still with Kelsey Grammer (which I think I was first to guess), but I'm far from convinced.

just sayin' said...

happy to translate, garrison scott. again, phil collins and ray davies are your and my perception of a+ based on the music we know over here. plus you've gotta keep in mind those brits are weird, lol! morrissey is/was a fan of my ex, who lived in london for years as it was a better market for him. in fact morrissey released a song "girlfriend in a coma" which was a total ripoff of one my ex's songs/albums released many years earlier. (he is as sick a puppy as morrissey, aside from the alleged serial killing, at least as far as i know anyway...his childhood-adult heroes were serial killers, too.)

garrisonwrites said...

Oh dear lord, @justsayin', glad you made it out of that relationship in one piece!

just sayin' said...

thanks garrison, he scares me still.

Mark said...

I wrote:

@himmmm, on November 13, 2017, enty revealed Morrissey as the "A list singer" in a 2014 blind. Would Morrissey have graduated to "permanent A list entertainer" over the last 3 years?

http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/blind-items-revealed-4-anniversary-month_13.html



I see that Morrissey's first novel was published in 2015, so I suppose he could have morphed from "singer" in 2014 to "entertainer" in 2017. I have a built-in bias, in that I don't understand why anyone would consider him "(permanent) A list."

just sayin' said...

mark, this will sound argumentative and i don't mean it that way...i think it's more like enty was using a vague term to make the subject harder to guess. but he's also more than "just" a singer as he's now a cultural icon/spokesman for causes he believes in.

Mark said...

just sayin', I'm a newbie and far-removed from the entertainment world. I have a lot to learn about blind items and enty's language. If you did want to argue with me, you're probably be on solid ground. There are a lot of things about the e-world that I have never understood, that disgust me, but that also intrigue the hell out of me. For instance, I don't know how Nick has gotten away with sexualizing tweens for so long. I don't understand how a man can have the timerity to drop trou' and demand a bj in exchange for any role in any production. I don't understand why anyone would prostitute him- or herself for a role in Hollywood, and I don't understand why some who likely willingly did so are now "victims" by default. And I hope that the days of someone bringing "knowledge to the attention of the authorities, and were brushed off as a crackpot" are over. But, as long as there is money, I doubt it.

Mark said...

... you'd probably be on solid ground ....

just sayin' said...

mark - not at all! the problem with text communication is it's hard to nuance emotion or intent sometimes. the only people i ever feel compelled to argue with are saying hateful things, and then i try to shut up but sometimes can't. i may act like a know-it-all but i know well that i'm not!

Steely Dan said...

Hey... That's DOCTOR Frasier Crane!!!!!!

Unknown said...

I keep re-reading this blind. I took it as implying that Mr. C is suspected of being a serial killer, however, looking at it again - could it be possible that he was a ‘middle man’, so to speak, for a sex trafficking ring? He would attract the young girls, who then would taken for the ring, but he was not the killer? If so, maybe look at entertainers who have a possible connection to suspects of sex trafficking.

just sayin' said...

i read "mr. c's pattern of travel to a number of cities many years ago corresponds to the disappearances of young women in those same cities" a number of ways, but not as a ted bundy or jack-the-ripper-type stalker/serial killer. could be groupies he intentionally od'd. could be underaged "prostitutes" in asia he got too rough with, accidentally or on purpose. could be involvement in snuff films. and i could be wrong.

just sayin' said...

cc: that makes sense, especially considering "Mr. C's tendencies were actually in demand by many of those in power. Our entertainer would do anything, no matter how deviant, with anyone, to further his success. The more twisted, the better." so he was performing a service, procuring victims for any sort of activity, no problem.

Unknown said...

Morrissey can't be right--he's a loner, not someone who became buddies with other powerful deviants as he grew wealthier and more powerful. In addition, where has he been recently honored? Also, have never heard about any particular magnetism he has with women . . . .

I think we should start looking at athletes.

Joshua said...

Just to add a point to the Jackie Chan guess, you guys know what the "Jackie Chan meme" looks like, right? If not, Google it. Mind blown ;)

Unknown said...

I remember reading a couple of years ago about a sex ring that took place at Dolphin Square and other areas around London known as Operation Midland and Westminster scandals. Pretty sick, twisted stuff. I believe it started in the 70’s and continued through the 80’s, possibly later? It involved high ranking British MP’s. I know it involved young boys as victims, so I looked up to see if it involved teenage girls as victims, as well. I ran across an article that said someone witnessed a 14 year old girl getting killed at one of the sick parties. Perhaps Mr. C had some involvement in this ring? From what I’ve read, the police have done a lousy job investigating, and the witnesses have all been discredited by the powers that are involved.

PapayaSF said...

C C makes a good point, that this might be about sex trafficking and not serial killing. It's more of a talent "in demand" than serial killing.

For the commenters hung up on the word "entertainer": This is a blind item. "Entertainer" can mean many things, and its use was probably meant to avoid giving too many clues, which "actor" or "singer" or 'director" might have. However, I don't think that includes sports figures.

Motörhead said...

uri Geller. Mr C.I.A. Very shady indeed. Mossad, CIA and well travelled.

lutefisk said...

This is a long shot but some of the clues fit very well. Peter Murphy of Bauhaus . Bauhaus was one of the first established goth groups. They also appeared in the horror movie The Hunger.
In Neil Gaiman's comic book series The Sandman, Dream's face and appearance is based on Murphy.[15][16] In fact, Gaiman explained that Murphy was the original model for Morpheus.[17] Gaiman also stated that Sandman artist, Dave McKean, based Dream's face in the cover of Sandman No. 1 on Murphy.
In James O'Barr's comic book The Crow, Eric's face was heavily based on Murphy
The blown away clue could be this:
A classic from the '80s starring Bauhaus frontman, Pete Murphy, blowing his mind with the power of Maxell cassettes (the Bang & Olufsen stereo helped some too).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBem3x7G6bc

I can't find anything on his childhood.

lutefisk said...

oops, I left out Mr C.---Mr. Cassette! The commercial he was blown away in was for cassette tapes!

PapayaSF said...

Peter Murphy is an interesting possibility, but like some of the other possibilities mentioned, I don't think of him as "A list."

Dan said...

Don't see it being Morrissey. I don't recall him ever being a "shadowy figure", eccentric yes, but not in a dark way. And a shy recluse. Doesn't match the person described.

lutefisk said...

@PapayaSF, he was more groundbreaking and had a bigger career than Morrissey. He lives in Turkey now. Not sure if it is him but there is plenty there that fits.

Joshua said...

@lutefisk In what world has Murphy had a bigger career than Morrissey? That's preposterous.

Doug said...

@C C, et al: very, very good observation. There is only one death mentioned explicitly in the blind. It seems to imply strongly (but only to imply) that the death occurred when the subject was a teenager. Later, young women disappeared in places where the subject went, and of course we don't know what happened to them, but it feels like this means that they were abducted into sex slavery.

So, we are probably not looking for someone very famous who used to travel around murdering young women. Which means that the closing statement in the blind, "if anything is uncovered, this story is going to be huge", has to do with the fame and stature of the subject.

I am doubtful that the subject is Morissey. I don't know what kinds of things he might do or have done. But his fame is not enough to make such a revelation huge enough, in my view. By implication, I am not interpreting things posted under the name "himmmm" to be "reveals".

And to go back to a couple of the candidates, Jimmy Page and Mick Jagger, I would lean toward Jagger between the two of them, in part because Page was always a lot better-looking than Jagger. But I don't rule out Page, and it could well be someone other than those two.

lutefisk said...

@Josh, it is absolutely not preposterous. Peter Murphy amongst other things was the centerpiece of an iconic commercial. Spend some time researching him. I don't know if it is him but he fits many of the clues better than Morrissey. Also:


The erstwhile Bauhaus vocalist – sharp of cheek and pouting of lip – is only to happy to admit to his part in goth’s formation. Combining sacrilegious and blasphemous subject matter with S&M imagery and a high sense of camp and drama, Bauhaus were one of the first bands to use punk as a launchpad to somewhere else. Their brief reign of terror lasted less than five years but the imprint they left behind is still visible to this very day.

lutefisk said...

@Josh
Who is Peter Murphy?

He has been called: the Literary Mystic. Sufi Sage. Seminal Artist. Legend.

Icon.

Peter Murphy's initial foray into the music world was as songwriter and front man for the influential late-70's band Bauhaus, who helped define what became known as post-punk. Murphy's dramatic brooding beauty, electrifying performances, and unique, sonorous voice set the standard for an endless number of clones who followed in his wake. Bauhaus released a distinguished body of work in a brief career that managed to reflect an era that has now proved timeless.

After the breakup of Bauhaus, Peter Murphy jumped headfirst into his solo career and has never looked back, recording 10 solo albums and numerous EPs and collaborative efforts. His live performances are a heady mix of fiery theatrics, artful guile, pure rock and roll swagger, and a voice that is beautifully timeless and transcendent.

The last four years have seen the release of two new solo works--Ninth (Peter's ninth solo CD and "One of the strongest of his career" according to the LA Times), and LION, his most recent, critically acclaimed, best selling release--three sold out tours of North America, the UK/Europe, and Mexico/South America, and performances in Russia, China, Australia, and New Zealand. As Peter continues to record and tour the world, his fan base grows: 220,000+ fans on Facebook and growing by the thousands weekly.

In addition to many acclaimed music videos and full length concert films, Peter has appeared onscreen in several very memorable film projects, including the classic UK Maxell tape ads, the famed opening sequence of Tony Scott's horror classic "The Hunger", as "The Cold One" in "The Twilight Saga: Eclipse", and as the narrator for the animated short feature "The Lady Paranorma".

Words about Peter Murphy from David J, Peter's Bauhaus bandmate:

When Murphy treads the boards, it is an act of possession. Peter Murphy is a self contained pantheon of gods. He exhibits qualities that are, in turn, Dionysian, Apollonian, and Mercurial. At times he walks in step with angels, though on occasion a darker path is traversed.

His voice is the type of voice that is seldom heard in these electric days, a throwback to the gaslit era and the glory days of the traditional actor/manager of Shakespearean line. The unamplified oration that boomed from beneath the velvet slouch brimmed hat of Sir Edmund Kean and his exalted ilk. It is a voice that demands attention and always, always gets it. It is a Voice.

The first time I ever saw Peter, I was immediately struck by his unselfconscious natural grace and charismatic charm.

"What do you think?'"asked a young Daniel Ash, referring to this nascent star.

"He's solid gold!" I replied, "solid gold!"

Joshua said...

How do the record sales stack up?

lutefisk said...

Why don't you google it to find out. Also, he is more than a musician, so he can fit in the entertainer category.

Mike said...

You could read a lot into Morrissey's lyrics to make this fit. There's the line about wanting to bludgeon a lover in her bed. There's the song "Lifeguard Sleeping, Girl Drowning", sung from the point of view of a bystander that relishes hearing the girl's useless cries for help.

But, like @Dan says, the personality doesn't work and neither does his limited career. The Smiths were on an indie label, something that wouldn't have placed him rubbing shoulders with "those in power". He doesn't have a reputation for a debauched lifestyle.

@lutefisk

Almost nobody knows who Peter Murphy is unless they were young in the 80s or early 90s AND were into the "alternative" music scene. He sang for a forgotten goth band and was in a forgotten vampire movie. I appreciate his singing and he's has some great songs, but if he ever got in trouble with the law,most people would say, "Who?"

lutefisk said...

@Mike, I agree with you that most people would not know who he is. Based on what I know of him I thought he fit the clues better than some of the other names tossed out for answers. I still think it is someone older, but he was one of the first people I thought of because of his goth/punk image and the fact that he did many other things in the entertainment world besides Bauhaus.

Mike said...

It makes sense to keep putting new names out there since most are not completely satisfied with the names out there already.

AIP said...

Ronan Farrow can spell.

AIP said...

@Papaya. Morrisey’s parents are Irish, it goes without saying mammy’s the boss. ;-)

I just think he’s an arsehole.

AIP said...

@Papaya: his parents are Irish, it goes without saying that the mammy’s the boss ;-)

A self-regarding, contrary. socially-inept, possibly narcissistic arsehole of the first water...oh yes...carrying out the blind? Nah.

PapayaSF said...

@AIP: I'm not voting for Morrissey, I was just doing a little research based on Himmmm's guess. He doesn't quite seem to fit for me, either. But then, none of them do! (Although, for whatever reasons, I like the Uri Geller and Jim Carrey guesses.)

AIP said...

The Uri Geller one is incredibly intriguing. I think his status on the list is right. Early harrowing experience could be the first Arab-Israeli war when he was a very young child and then winding up in Cyprus around the time of partition...the fecking geo-political jinx!
I’m not convinced but it’s an intriguing guess!

AIP said...

There are some great guesses here, but I just can’t shake the feeling this could be about Gérard Depardieu (assuming it happened at all, etc etc), with some details fudged (plastic swords for toy/wooden or something else.
I am actually a huge fan of his work, but I know more about his background than I’d really like, and none of it is good.

test said...

Can't be Depardieu. There's no way he's permanent A list and he's an actor rather than an entertainer (Enty labels actors as actors unless they are multi-faceted...e.g., J-Lo is an entertainer even though she acts).

andr said...

At first I was afraid this was David Lynch - Mr C is the name of the antagonist in the new Twin Peaks season and he's known for his dark, twisted movies - but, of course, he's from Missoula Montana.

just sayin' said...

unless he's arrested this will go unrevealed.

can anyone remember a blind where himmmm guessed the answer and was later revealed to be wrong?

Anonymous said...

Darn it.

I had what I thought was a good off-the-wall guess ... but NO, Crispin Glover had to be from New York.

Unknown said...

Carlos Santana

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Adrian Zmed said...

I had said Jackie Chan. But I am coming around to Russell Crowe. He played some dark characters. He was Cinderella Man (Mr C). He has a known bad temper. He plays in bands as well as acts (entertainer). His joke the other day was very bad.

andr said...

Morrissey is conventionally handsome, didn't experience visceral hardship as a child, and is known for being sad & depressing - not "dark" in the way the blind implies. It's not him.

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Amused said...

I didn't see anyone mention this name, so I will put it out there. Billy Connolly. He is the very definition of an entertainer (musician, actor, comedian). He had a pretty horrific childhood and would be considered permanent A, at this point (he has been knighted and has worked steadily for decades). He could be considered dark because of some of the subject matter of his comedy, and he is a very private person who doesn't seem to care for paps a lot.

I found this article where it says that when he started to achieve fame, politicians were volleying for his attention, and he has rubbed elbows with some of the most famous entertainers on the planet. As far as doing what it takes for fame, he has been accused of using jokes he heard while working at the shipyard and not crediting the guys who told the stories, at the very least. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/profile-no-mercy-for-the-big-man-billy-connolly-the-comedian-scotland-cant-forgive-1374571.html

I also found this comment left after one of his youtube videos: "Hi (name of poster). Remember The Falklands, the last time? Probably not. You sure as hell remember knocking fuck out of your Mrs whom we (MOD) had to get a scheduled Tristar just to get you out of there after you broke her teeth, nose & ribs. But you don't have a drink problem do you. Arsehole eedjit woman battering numpty."

I'm not at all convinced I'm right, but I thought there were some interesting parallels.

BestMan said...

Look what was in the news yesterday. Diversionary?

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8077738/jimmy-page-hints-surprises-led-zeppelin-50th-anniversary

Sassy325 said...

Jimmy Page fits, except for the un-handsome description. In his young years, late 1960s thru the LZ years of eary 1970s, Page was very handsome. His good looks were remarked upon by his associates in the LZ biography books. The years of hard living, liquor, & especially cocaine/heroin, all took their toll, although he remained fairly attractive until about the year 2000.

I've never read/heard this anywhere else, but I suspect that Peter Grant was homosexual and in love w/JP, who of course realized this and exploited it. Grant's wife left him after remarking that he loved Jimmy more than her. So was JP willing to engage in homo sex acts with powerful managers/executives?

Ahmet Ertegun of Atlantic Records was Jimmy's label. He always seemed sinister-- a man with dark tendencies, perhaps? Did he introduce Page to a decadent world of upper class sex parties, something like the movie Eyes Wide Shut?

Everyone is afraid of Page, aren't they? He's silenced many with lawsuits and god knows what else. But he cannot live forever and the truth will come out someday.

By the way, how the heck did LZ get the Kennedy Center honor? It was almost painfully embarrassing to watch. Since Page is known for being tight with a dollar, not likely a bribe. Does he have dirt on a senator or high government official?

chip whitley said...

i could definitely see this being Morrissey. it would be huge if this came out. the smiths have influenced many many many musicians. they (morrissey) had and still have a large following. i'm on the morrissey train.

Mr. C = Mr. Cocky? ;)

joshg g said...

Morrissey has a song called Mr Charming. Hard to believe he is a list though.

Joseph P Blow, Kokomo PD said...

I really don't think this one is Stephen Patrick Morrissey (Morrissey). I'm biased admittedly but even accounting for a few red herring clues in the blind it still seems he misses out on ticking enough of the boxes. In my opinion it's too much of a stretch to think it's him. Now, Morrissey is a fucking weird dude, you'll get no dispute whatsoever on that one from me. Another thing that he is, is a militant vegetarian. To the point that he subjects his audiences to a rendition of the Smiths track Meat is Murder at almost all of his live shows. It's a real downer (complete with visual accompaniment of animals being slaughtered, at least on this most recent tour) and I can't think of any reason, other than a comically obvious case of overcompensation, that he'd play it at his shows unless it was a deeply held conviction for him. He's even gone so far as to not play at festivals where the scent of burning meat is on the air. So the violence against animals seems to be out. However, for the sake of argument let's roll with the assumption that he's either a reformed animal abuser or a master of deception. Second point: Mr. C. was not conventionally attractive. Well, if you look at Morrissey as a young man he kinda looks like James Dean but with better hair. So there's that.

I just thought of something! Fuck! I think I know who it is! Leonard Cohen! Has anyone guessed him yet? Before I go too far down the rabbit hole is there anything in the blind that makes it seem a certainty that the Icon has to still be alive? Cohen is recently deceased.

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Doug said...

@Joseph P Blow, Kokomo PD: The last few sentences of the blind indicate that the subject is still alive.

jess_ski said...

Marilyn Manson. Title is 'Monster Icon' (Charles Manson/Marilyn Monroe).

Born in Canton, Ohio (taking the Chinese meaning of 'Canton' as a region).

Known sex experimenter/played a porn star in Lynch's 'Lost Highway'/commented regularly on grandfather's fetishes.

The 'Mr. C' could refer to a number of things but possibly and horrifyingly, the Columbine massacre where Manson's music was put forward as a motive for the shooters.

jess_ski said...

Manson also won the Kerrang lifetime achievement award in 2015

Sassy325 said...

Sounds like Jimmy Page, except for the not-handsome phrase. In his young years in 1960s & 1970s, Page was indeed handsome. His associates are quoted in the LedZep bio books as noting and praising his good looks. Heroin and liquor took their toll, and today his looks are gone.

I always suspected that manager Peter Grant was gay -- and hopelessly in love with Jimmy. Grant's wife left him with the remark that he loved J more than her. JP may have exploited Grant's feelings in some way, perhaps engaged in certain "romantic" activities in order to bind PG to him.

Also, consider Ahmet Ertegun, head of Atlantic Records, JP's label. AE was well-known as an upper-class hedonist, quite a taste for the low life. Maybe he was involved in secret things such as in the movie Eyes Wide Shut -- sex clubs of the rich and well-connected, maybe with occult overtones. Right up Page's alley, of course. Everything about JP suggest that he would be an enthusiastic participant, especially if it earned preferential treatment of his music.

Everyone's really afraid of Page, aren't they? It seems no one can be found who has a good word about him. He cannot live forever -- hope the whole story comes out someday.

PurplePuffin said...

I keep coming back to this blind item to see if anyone has come up with someone who fits all the clues. I'm not buying that it's Jimmy Page. I think the most important clue is that this person "was exposed to some graphic life experiences that many of us can't imagine." This is war, holocaust, murders, torture, kidnapping, etc. Jimmy Page had a normal, undramatic childhood by all accounts.

The Morrisey guess is a good one and the childhood story fits this clue. I never think of him as dark = satanic; I think of him as dark = depressed. I don't see how he fits the clue that says he "would do anything, no matter how deviant, with anyone, to further his success. The more twisted, the better." So, I don't think it's Morrisey.

Marilyn Manson is not foreign born, so as deranged and freaky as he is, he doesn't fit.

Bring on the foreign born A list weirdos! This is one of the most difficult blinds that I can recall.

just sayin' said...

the most convincing thing to me about morrissey (aside from the fact that himmmm pointed to him, which i still take as almost gospel) is his choice to be celibate. come on. cliff richard also "chose" celibacy, if that's a hint. grown men simply don't, unless they go into the priesthood and/or have something to hide. not wanting to be hit on by adults is a good thing to want to hide, because if you can't perform with either sex, someone's gonna catch on at some point. also we don't know a lot about his childhood but he describes it as horrible.

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Anonymous said...

Morrisey...too young, too handsome, not into girls...moody but hardly "dark". Not "A" list. Also, his lyrics show empathy and concern for outsiders.

I'm thinking someone involved in the horror or sci-fi Fandom, a straight Clive Barker. Or foreign Stephen King.
Cronenborg seems genial, though his work is a red flag. If H.R. Geiger were alive, he'd be my first guess.

Anonymous said...

How about Neil Young?

Canadian born. Definitely permanent A list.

Suffered through polio as a child, nearly dying. His father left him to his seriously alcoholic mother when he was young. In one of his autobiographies, he recounts an incident when he was 11 (I think) when a pedophine urged Neil and some friends to his house and masterbated in front of them. (Could more have happened that he hasn’t revealed?) Also began having epileptic fits in the mid-1960s when he was in Buffalo Springfield, having seizures onstage many times.

Dark side? He began driving a hearse when he was just starting to embark on a musical career in his young days in Canada. Got another hearse and it was in that car that he drove illegally into the U.S. on his way to LA, where his career took off. Musicians he encountered in those early U.S. days remember him driving around in it.

Also partied with Charles Manson and tried to get him a record deal.

And his “Ditch Trilogy” of dark albums right after he hit it big with “Harvest” are well known.

What about this: David Crosby (they hate each other btw) said cryptically in 2014 to a newspaper: “I happen to know that (Neil is) hanging out with somebody that is a purely poisonous predator now. And that’s karma. He’s gonna get hurt.”

Checks quite a few boxes, and if he were revealed to be this Monster Icon ... it would be huge.

Anonymous said...

^
Forgot to mention about Neil Young, he shared an apartment with and was in a band with Rick James for a short period in the mid-1960s in Toronto, which would guarantee “graphic life experiences which most of us can’t imagine,” haha.

And he threatened to attack a cameraman onstage at Woodstock, a “peace and love” festival.

Definitely had a “dark” or “bad boy” reputation in his day.

Guesser said...

@Saintpat,David Crosby was referring to Daryl Hannah as the"poisonous predator ",he believed she lied about Jackson Browne beating her. Enty has had blinds about her being a golddigger.

Anonymous said...

Quentin Tarantino

andr said...

there's literally no way this is Morrissey. He fits almost nothing in the blind. What a bizarre guess

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J2 said...

David Cronenberg - Lifetime Achievement Award -Canadian Screen Actors 2014

Unknown said...

Cronenbergs are the monsters on Rick and Morty.

Ornithophobe said...

I'm a huge Smiths fangirl and yes,Morrissey is A list, his fame has been worldwide for the last few decades. If high school aged me could find the Smiths in the mideighties in the middle of the continental US; they aren't unknown. And while it would break my heart if it were him...oh, god, it would make so much sense. The most beautiful love song he's ever written, IMO, is "Jack the Ripper." He wrote a song that's a fan letter to the Krays. Yeah, he's vegetarian- until he craves a burger.And he's celibate-until he craves a shag. I adore his work, but he's a very flaky, strange man.

BestMan said...

My moneys on Clapton.
Permanent A lister...iconic
Has violent history with women
The people that work closest with him don't like him.
He wrote a song called Missing Person and it gave me the chills to read the lyrics.
He's a racist and he's been in the news recently because of it.
Now that I'm thinking it's Clapton, the fact that his four-year-old son died in the fall makes me think twice.

Unless you can give me a better person, he's the one I put my money on.

Amused said...

@Appalachian Mothersauce, I thought of him too! I came up with Billy Connolly because I googled iconic entertainers, and every entity of the word entertainer. Billy had the worst childhood that I would have imagined, but Eric Clapton, is a second best. (Love your name, btw. I grew up in the Appalachian Mountains. I was conceived in Marin Co., and after reading this crap for years, am so happy my mom moved across the country...)

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BestMan said...

I saw him on the genealogy show. Yeah his childhood was really horrible, but he is so nice. Not even a hint. At least that I could find. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/11102490/Billy-Connolly-interview-Robin-Williams-tried-to-say-goodbye-to-me.html

Lane said...

I am on the Morrissey “Mr. Celibate” train. I have always been weirded out by one of his songs “Ambitious Outsiders” essentially written from the point of view of a child molester or killer. He has also written “Suffer Little Children” about The Moors Murders, and “Jack The Ripper” and so much of his music has been written about what it is like to be disconnected from everyone and the life of an antisocial personality. I have followed his career closely for many years and there is alot more that fits. I’m not sure that I believe this blind to be 100% fact but I am convinced Morrissey is the person it was intended to be about. I believe “Monster” could also be a reference to his nicknames “Moz” and “Mozzer”.

Jackie said...

With regards to Page. It isn't a huge leap to think that the Lori girl wasn't the only one who he had kidnapped and taken to his hotel room. I can see how that could get out of hand and turn violent if another girl fought it.

br said...

My first thought was Leonard Cohen...except he has passed.

Otherwise fits quite well. Foreign born, grew up to in an interesting neighborhood, definitely a dark side.

If you don’t believe me then I suggest checking out some of the Jaysun Horsley “Liminalist” podcasts with Ann Diamond. There are several episodes dedicated to the darker sides of Cohen.

br said...

Leonard Cohen seems like a perfect fit...except that he has already passed.

Jasun Horsley’s “Liminalist” blog has several excellent interviews with Ann Diamond regarding Cohen’s darker sides. Worth a large sten if you have the time to dig into it.

br said...

Leonard Cohen?...except he has already passed, would be a good fit.

Check out some of the Ann Diamond interviews on Jasun Horsley’s “Liminalist” podcast for reference to the darker side of Cohen.

br said...

Leonard Cohen...perfect fit except he has already passed.

Willy Farrell said...

Mr ‘C’hristopher Lee? Played Count Dracula (“Shadowy”), Count Dooku (“Dark Side”), Frankenstein’s “Monster”. “Exposed to some graphic life experiences”: WW2. He was also accomplished at Fencing, which might explain the swordplay incident... However, i’m not entirely convinced, as the “entertainer” reference makes me think it’s someone other than an actor or singer, maybe a comedian / wrestler / magician etc. Plus, he’s dead... I think the traumatic experiences has to involve going to war.

AIP said...

@Willy: I’m guessing you’re not familiar with Lee’s heavy metal career? (No. Not a word of a lie. He released at least two Christmas albums). His “Office of Ungentlemanly Warfare” wartime work was likely hokum, sadly.

Doug said...

Leonard Cohen does not fit as he is no longer alive, but I want to second @br's recommendation of Jaysun Horsley's interviews with Ann Diamond on the Liminalist podcast, especially the very long two-part interview that was (I believe) their first conversation. Maybe two years ago. One of the most engrossing interviews I have ever heard.

Lane said...

After posting about how I thought it was Morissey, I had my doubts and looked up “celebrities associated with the occult” and found a dumb list but it had an interesting few tidbits about Sir Christopher Lee. In addition to pointing out that he wasn’t just an actor but also a musician “Entertainer” it also said that his reputation for playing movie monsters bled into his identity offscreen where audiences and Christopher Lee alike, had a difficult time seperating the man from the monster. It also said that for many years he was rumored to have the largest occult library including satanic works of anyone else known. He denied the rumor toward the end of his life but had strange words to say about the true satanists he’d encountered during his life. Even though he is deceased, I’d say he is another possible contender for the answer to this maddening blind.

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rednoir said...

Michael Caine. Grew up during a different time.

Jujitsu Jane said...

David Blaine...escape artist...born in the UK. Recently in the media as he was recently accused of sexual assault.

Unknown said...

Yep i said David Blaine at the beginning of the thread, he gives out creepy vibes

br said...

Sorry for multiple posts. I had an especially poor internet connection the other day.

Ann Diamond just did another 2 part interview on The Liminalist last month (mid-december 2017). She talks about some of her recent research in the Cohen archive. Lots of talk about the organized crime element in his childhood neighborhood. Also some ritual sacrifice stuff.


I think that is a total of about 8-9 hours worth of discussion with her about Cohen.

Joseph P Blow, Kokomo PD said...

br, whomever you are, are my hero[ine]. Great find. So strange...new skin for the old sacrifice.

Unknown said...

William Frawley

Unknown said...

Arnold

Unknown said...

Though he's been mentioned, Gene Simmons. Israeli. Iconic Demon/Monster. Drips with contempt for the shiksas. Years ago, before his profile grew, he had thousands of polaroids collected over decades of groupies. They were online.

Though deceased, David Bowie probably forged a boatload of well-kept tales in his darker era. I remember hints about him by the late Max Clifford and Jonathan King. Not a whole lot ever came to light.


Unknown said...

Morrissey wouldn't hurt a black angus! I'll eat my lettuce if it's Morrissey.

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Becca said...

Could it be Tom Jones? Born in Wales and admitted he created 'a monster'... Although i'm not convinced about the shadowy reputation, he has admitted to many infidelities. He could easily be classed as an entertainer; he's currently a judge on The Voice U.K, Las Vegas residences, a successful music career which involved lots of touring.
http://metro.co.uk/2013/03/26/the-voices-tom-jones-i-create-a-monster-with-my-tight-pants-3559001/
https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/201777/Tom-Jones-I-created-a-sex-bomb-monster

Unknown said...

Enty mentioned Jimmy Page on twitter

Nonya Bidness said...

No - it might not have seemed as scandalous then, but it was absolutely just as wrong. Fuck "consent" or the family knowing where she was. She was literally tied up and left, in addition to repeatedly used. I hope you dont have any daughters.

vickmcg said...

Totally agree Mary! I think it’s Roman Polanski too.

Anon said...

I had a good friend who was a long time homicide dectective for the New Orleans Police Department. I asked him who was the scariest person/ criminal he every met ? He told me that it was a small,neat well kept and extremely polite little old man who was a convicted cannibal who lived in the housing projects . You can never be sure of a persons true intentions. True story

Casper said...

Don't know why but I don't buy Gene Simmons.

"He grew up in a different time and was exposed to some graphic life experiences that many of us can't imagine."

GS was born in 1949 and that doesn't fit really with "different time". He dated Cher and Diana Ross in the late '70s and early '80s and they (their kids too) remember him dearly in and off-record.

I'd go with someone much older that would be well into his 70s, 80s or even older and that got to witness relatives -or even himself- going through the Holocaust or something like that.

PotPourri said...

Stop with all the Marilyn Manson posts, (and Criss Angel) nobody would miss them if they died or were thrown under the bus. Pretty much, no one would care except a few fans.

Page is Iconic but I don't believe it's him. Gene Simmons is a creep, but I still don't think it's him. Anybody who says Jagger, well, that's a joke.

Cliff Richard is an entertainer, and has been accused before of boys, and also a Minister but meh...

PotPourri said...

I would never imagine in any world I've seen that Morrissey is better than a B List, but I lived through the 80's and he was not much then either, but I guess he has a cult following. He was no Joe Elliott or David Lee Roth (do not like DLR, but the world knows him)

Gerard Depardieu IS an Entertainer...he is an Actor, Singer, Filmmaker who has recorded tons of music and done many films... He seems to have that dark issue too.

PapayaSF said...

I think some people are putting too much weight on "entertainer." As used here, it doesn't necessarily mean someone who acts and sings and dances or whatever. It could just be Enty's way of making the blind item blind: being more specific and writing "actor" or "singer" or "magician" would be too much of a clue.

This is a great blind item. I'm eager to learn who it is.

Cassie said...

Mr. C = Mr. Crowley? Ozzy

Joe said...

My gut tells me Marilyn Manson. Check Wikipedia, he was born in Canada and experienced things related to incestual abuse. Also his name is the combination of Marilyn Monroe and Charles Manson, two "Cultural Icons" according to Wikipedia.

First time poster, long time lurker.
-#ultradeepbase

Joe said...

Anyone guessing Morissey and Leonard Cohen are obvious cabal trolls. My God, how insane must you be to think Morissey or LC are not full of love? A: someone who has been inverted in the pleasure/pain control regimen, or a f'ing retard.

#ultradeepbase

Citizen S said...

Gene Simmons is a great guess.
I remember a public radio interview (MPR) he did years ago with a female interviewer. He was horrible to her. He talked about sex, sex with her, how stupid she was, and it went on and on, just full of hatred for her. It also came through the interview that he just absolutely hates women. I could easily see him being a serial killer of women.

Citizen S said...

Gene Simmons interview with Terry Gross was the interview on NPR.
Just google "gene simmons interview with terry gross"
He was so nasty it completely changed the way I thought about him.

Amelia of Airheart said...

Mick Jagger guess is intriguing. Doesn't entirely fit, but he was knighted, and notice the title of this article from 2016:
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/mick-jagger-portrayed-monstrous-new-book-article-1.2612388

Can't find anything about his childhood or his treatment of animals, though...

Salome said...

how fucked up would one have to be to bite the head off of a dove? I've done a few drunken face plants, but that takes the cake.

;) said...

Clive Barker. Born in Liverpool. When he was three years old, Barker witnessed the French skydiver Léo Valentin plummet to his death during a performance at an air show.

Barker, "My childhood was no paradise. I lived in fear for a long time of a man who was a lodger in the house and who successfully convinced me that if I ever told anybody what he made me do to him, everyone ( especially my Dad ) would know I was the one who was guilty."


Barker received the Davidson/Valentini Award at the 15th GLAAD Media Awards

DaeLynn said...

My thought was Jimmy Page as well. He was into the occult and purchased Aliester Crowley’s house. He also had a proclivity for underage groupies, and Miss Pamela mentioned in her book I’m With The Band that he used to travel with whips to use on his groupies. I hate to think he could be responsible for disappearing pets and women, but he is the one I think best fits this scenario.

Unknown said...

Haha...Pag(e)ing himmmmm!"
You got it all by yourself.

jayhoney said...

I think this is it. I was doing research on Daniel Day-Lewis, who also seems to be a very private and strange man, kinda like some magician if you will. But then I found this Rolling Stone article. That plastic sword story which has been bothering me seems possible too.

https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-news/the-restoration-of-roman-polanski-240989/

"He thought they’d keep him out of the famous State Film School at Lodz, however. “This was Fifties, Communists had taken over Poland, my father was running small plastics company, this was considered by the Party to be ‘private initiative,’ very bad, that stuff mattered a lot when trying to get into the school but somehow I made it."

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