Tuesday, January 30, 2018

Blind Item #13

This permanent A list mostly movie actress who is an Academy Award winner/nominee is older. She was also there to witness in person some of the sexual abuses a permanent A list director committed. She sold her soul a long time ago and maybe there will be some death bed confession, but right now she continues to be a supporter.

86 comments:

Tricia13 said...

Diane Keaton/Woody allen

Dahling said...

Yeah - kind of all over the internet today

sandybrook said...

Probably...

Melissa LaRue said...

She and Alec Baldwin - just unbelievable how many people are going down for far less horrifying behavior while so many still defend him (and sometimes Polanski).

Boldblonde said...

All the veterans who aren't speaking, are denying or being quite, sold their souls a long time ago.

R Bee said...

How could anyone stick by Woody Allen- you don't date someone you brought up as your adopted child. It shows sickness.

AVG said...

I guess Diane Keaton, but I can't really imagine what she would have witnessed, unless it was a cover-up. He isn't accused of on-set behavior that I know of, and they weren't together when the daughter stuff was allegedly going on.

Amartel said...

Nobody is credible in the Woody Allen/Mia Farrow allegations about Dylan Farrow. I admire that Keaton is standing by an old friend and facing down the parrot mob.

Ali Who said...

I love Diane Keaton's movies but that is very disappointing.

Her said...

Judd Apatow slammed her.

Her said...

Bullshit. Complete utter bullshit.

Guesser said...

"She witnessed" it? Then she is a guilty party as well, since there wasn't anything seen in public or on set.

Lau Ra said...

How many "clean" A listers exist?

Normal. Yes indeed. said...

Literally

Brayson87 said...

Did he make a deal with the devil or something? So many A-listers and half of New York would do anything for him but I've never seen any great talent.

Rescue Girl said...

Yuck Diane Keaton

Kevin said...

Keaton was in Manhattan so yeah she knows.

plot said...

Didn't Muriel Hemingway say that nothing really happened on that set? Woody tried to get her alone often, offering to squire her around Paris alone, commented on her attractiveness and things. Isn't that all Muriel said happened. He slimed her, fo shur, but never abused her.

So what is Diane supposed to have seen?

AngryLiberalKTS. said...

Angelica Houston may have witnessed Polanski's rape. She came home in the middle of it. Very awkward convo with Roman.

Hanniam said...

I’m actually wondering if this refers to someone who was at parties with Polanski back in the day, since it said “witnessed” the abuses, and Polanski doesn’t seem to have kept his proclivities all that secret in the early-mid 70s.

Laurie said...

Diane dated Woody off and on for years. It didn't have to be on a movie set to be witnessed.

Beth said...

On a related note, this might be of interest:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/i-read-decades-of-woody-allens-private-notes-hes-obsessed-with-teenage-girls/2018/01/04/f2701482-f03b-11e7-b3bf-ab90a706e175_story.html?utm_term=.2e075f45affc

palmettobug said...

I wish it was more publicized that Mia modeled the alleged abuse of Dylan on a Dory Previn song called In the Attic with My Daddy, down to the detail. It wasn't about sexual abuse, it was about her father having severe PTSD from combat and having a years long break from reality, at times holding the family hostage in their home from imaginary enemies. Dory Previn, who's marriage to Andre was destroyed by the predatory 20 year old Mia, and about whom Dory dedicated another one of her confessional songs, Beware of Young Girls. Mia's brother was convicted of molestation as well, and then there is her relationship with Polanski. None of this is new to her, so it was easy to pin it on Woody, who was not Soon Yi's father--Andre Previn was, hence her name Soon Yi Previn. He also did not live with Mia. These details are available to all, but people continue to believe the very sad and unbalanced Dylan, who Mia brainwashed at a very young age. Moses, one of the adopted kids, sides with Woody, wish he'd write an editorial.

ImmodestyBlaise said...

I don't know why she would still support him after all the shade he was throwing at her at the AFIs in June:

https://www.thecut.com/2018/01/woody-allen-american-film-institute-diane-keaton.html

Nonya Bidness said...

I get that she has been covering up for so long that she is complicit but I am baffled at how anyone else can deny his guilt. How many of his movies revolve around a pervy old guy getting with a teenager? He keeps living out his sick pedo fantasy and making money off of it. When you are that obsessed with underage girls, how does it garner benefit of the doubt?

Mariel Hemmimgway describes her first kiss at age 17 with him, which occurred in the movie Manhattan, and said he "attacked her like a linebacker."

He has been pursuing teenagers his whole life. There is just not reasonable doubt. He clearly does not see boundaries between adults and children, and has established that he will cross the line with someone that he is supposed to be a father to.

He is revolting.


Simon said...

I went back and looked at all the interviews and articles on Mia and woody. Law enforcement and cps said nothing credible. I think at least reasonable doubt on this. There were things that appeared Mia might have coached her. We will never know.

MattDaddy said...

Probably Diane Keaton, but the first name that popped into my head was Meryl Streep.

DDonna Tarttty said...

Whether Allen molested Dylan or not--and I believe he did, but there is a modicum of reasonable doubt--his films and recently discovered essays speak for themselves. I can't watch his movies anymore, and that saddens me, but it saddens me far worse to think of the scattered souls he's left in wreckage behind.

But what of Mia Farrow? Why has she defended Roman Polanski, a CONVICTED rapist of a young teen? Who, in the past year, has now been outed as the abuser of many other children as well, let's recall. Why the disconnect?

Do we think Woody has secret films of Diane, and Polanski of Mia? I do.

Kate K said...

He is a nasty, disgusting p.o.s. I can't believe people were laughing and clapping for that insulting, cruel speech.

plot said...

No secret films. This is about friendship and as Sarah Silverman stated, this isn't any easy situation for those who have deep friendships with the abusers.

We shouldn't expect Diane or Mia to abandon their friendships because we demand it. It's their process, not ours.

bunny honey said...

Never liked him or his movies. I hope he burns slowly in hell.

plot said...

@palmettobug

Interesting bit about the Dory Previn song there.

I think Woody and Mia are both crap parents. It takes a long cold hard hate for them to treat each other the way they did, something very old which predated their introduction. People flog each other for all kinds of reasons all their own.

Mia bought into her own myth of Saint Mia of the Children, believing that absolved her of all sins. Woody is a classic narcissist. The piling on of more children and constant filming schedule helped them both avoid their issues.

Who knows what happened between Woody and Dylan. He was certainly obsessed with her when she was a child. I don't agree that the relationship with Soon-Yi was a-okay. It wasn't. But that doesn't mean that Mia is the perfect victim in all this either.

For one, any woman who takes up with Phillip fucking Roth after breaking up with Woody so spectacularly has a shit ton of issues.


Violet said...

Guess who played a young Diane Keaton in "Annie Hall," in footage that was edited out of the final cut?
10-year-old Brooke Shields.
To be fair, Shields' Momager was expert at using "look, don't touch" hype with her daughter, instead of raffling her of directly as so many H'wood parents do; she probably would have gone after any genuine attempts on her little meal ticket like a barracuda. But it would be interesting to learn if Shields sensed anything off about the Famous Director.

Eupheme said...

You've nailed it @Tricia13. So disappointing.

SteveD said...

He banged Stacey Nelkin when she was 17. She says Manhattan is based on their relationship.

She was later the female lead in Halloween 3, the one with no Michael Myers and costume masks that made snakes come out of people's faces.

Empath said...

These people are disgusting hypocritical pigs and should all burn in hell.

Catsup said...

@Violet, I had no idea Brooke Shields was supposed to be in Annie Hall (In my opinion, she's way too pretty to be a young Keaton.). Boy, did Terry Shields allow looking. I'm old enough to have seen Pretty Baby in the theater. It had full frontal of Brooke when she was around 11. It remains one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen. Full on pedo porn that would land someone in jail today. The seventies and eighties were out of control.

Tricia13 said...

Diane Keaton was/is a one note actress... that neurotic,paranoid NY thing(and I’m proudly from there) suited them both well personally and professionally, but was anyone slinging up to see her in Medea or Les Liaisons Dangerouse? Nope.
Her —lack of a career trajectory outside of Allen,her actions (or lack thereof), and her agenda are perfectly copesetic.
And sad, as you said. Annie Hall revolutionized women and empowers them to be attractive, quirky and desirable with vkothes(men’s) on.... but she turned a blind eye to a man who stripped his own daughter of her childhood and her own-power and innocence

Frederic Douglas said...

Maybe Diane Keaton shares an aspect of the character of her Godfather character?

Tricia13 said...

Clothes*

Violet said...

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/332070172500333576/

I came back. said...

Ewwwwwwww

Sign Name Below said...

Polanski admitted the rape, he doesn't think he should be punished further.

Sign Name Below said...

Nothing secret about this. Polanski admitted raping the 13 year old. Unless we mean one of his other rape accusations?

Urban Rosebud said...

R Bee- that shit is just the basics, right? If you can cross that moral boundary, then you must be devoid of a soul.

Urban Rosebud said...

R Bee I am agreeing with you. Just wanted to clarify tone...

Scandi Sanskrit said...

I loved "Annie Hall" too. Before I knew what kind of assholes Woody Allen/Polanski were, I really enjoyed their films. But these days, I think that maybe Woody Allen is a little "TOO prolific".

I've been in 3 short films + 2 plays (that's 5 roles). I can tell you that 1 out if the 5 directors I worked with did it for all the wrong reasons (if you catch my drift).

He keeps making films, Woody. Who's funding them?

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Scandi Sanskrit said...

*1 out OF 5 of the directors

Anyway, I found out about what Woody did/was doing late enough that I was still able to enjoy "Vicky Christina Barcelona" (I didn't pay to see it, mind you, I was volunteering at a film fest and after all my ticketing duties were done, I snuck in to watch).

I love that NY thing too. 🗽👩🏻🚕🍂💛

SteveD said...

I just noticed that Woody's production company is named Perdido. You can't spell Perdido without P-E-D-O!

Violet said...

"Pretty Baby" at least had an intelligent script. Unlike Michelle Johnson's geezer-crazed bimbo in "Blame it on Rio," Shields' character (based on a real interview), is just a kid blindly copying what the adults around her do, because she doesn't know any other world. She has no idea there are things you can't say or do in conventional society, and it's implied at the end of the movie that she will have to learn to censor herself if she is ever to live a different life.

shibajonz said...

@plot
+101%

Hotmessmidwest said...

Tricia you are one of my favorites. Love your insight and your writing is fantastic.

Raging Bunnies said...

This hurts my heart.

Jennacheryl said...

Meryl Streep or at a stretch maybe Babs... but that one is a stretch.

plot said...

@Scandi Sanskrit

If it's any consolation, Penelope Cruz practically wrote her own part in Vicky Christina Barcelona. She demanded a role in the film and Woody had none for her. She told him that he needed her to make the film great, which is the god's honest truth. She made that movie something more than another piece of Woody's neurotic, sexually obsessed, universe.

If that helps you not feel guilty for enjoying , YAY!

Nelson Muntz69 said...

I have never understood the appeal of a woddy allen movie, the most boring fucking shit on planet earth.

ShouldaWouldaCoulda said...

I pretty much always agree with Alec Baldwin on issues. My prob with Woody Allen s daughter is Mia was out of her mind pissed at him and from what I understand the incident happened ONE time. Never more memories mentioned. Once is terrible, if true, but it may not be. Should his entire life have been ruined when NO ONE knows the truth? I m very suspect of Mia Farrow.

KittensRUs said...

@NelsonMuntz69, word. I tried to watch Annie Hall once and I simply couldn't get through it. Woody Allen wrote about boring, unlikeable people long before Lena Dunham made it trendy.

Kel said...

Thanks for your insight Woody, i mean Amartel

Agnieszka B. said...

No, she didn't sell her soul and she knows much more than we all. She was quite close to this family with crazy mother and 17 adopted kids.

MC98033 said...

Woody is a creeper for dating the 20 year old daughter of his ex- girlfriend but Mia Farrow has a mommy dearest vibe going on. According to both Moses Farrow she was physically and emotionally abusive. This is some of what he has to say:

In his earliest memories, “I was awoken in the middle of the night by Mia. I was in kindergarten. I slept in the girls’ room with [my adopted sisters] Lark and Daisy, on the lower bed of the bunk. Mia pulled me out of it. I was still half asleep as she repeatedly asked in a harsh tone if I had taken her pills. It wasn’t out of concern that I had swallowed any, but rather accusing me that I had stolen them from her. She took me to her bathroom. I was crying as she stood over me, scowling. I told her a dozen or so more times that I hadn’t taken them, but finally I said what she wanted to hear. I was forced to lie. However, simply telling her I took them didn’t suffice, and more questions ensued. I had to elaborate on the lie and tell her I had taken four or five pills because I thought they were Tic Tacs.

She pulled me over to the sink and directed me to put her bar of soap in my mouth and then instructed me to wash out my mouth, telling me that lying is a bad thing to do. Once I dried my mouth she put me back to bed. The next day I searched for the missing pills and found them under the cabinet between the toilet and the bathtub; however, I never mentioned it to her out of fear of getting into more trouble. This was the first time I felt truly fearful of her, and it was the start of her instilling fear in me. It began the very long and impossible task of gaining her approval. I can recall numerous times that she let me know the burden was on me to gain her trust.

“The summer between first and second grades, she was having new wallpaper installed in the bedroom I slept in, across the hall from hers on the second floor of the house in Connecticut. She was getting me ready to go to sleep, and when she came over to my bed she found a tape measure. I didn’t even know what it was. She had a piercing look on her face that stopped me in my tracks. It was really scary. She asked if I had taken it. She used that familiar voice I had become attuned to as she explained she had been looking for it all day. I stood in front of her, frozen. She asked why it was on my bed. I told her I didn’t know, that perhaps the workman left it there. After a couple more demands for the answer she wanted, she slapped my face, knocking off my glasses.

She told me I was lying. She directed me to tell my brothers and sisters that I had taken the tape measure. Through my crying and tears I listened to her as she explained that we would rehearse what should have happened. She told me that she would walk into the room and I would tell her I was sorry for taking the tape measure, that I had taken it to play with and that I would never do it again. We practiced at least a half dozen times. It became late, I was afraid and had cried myself out. Once she was satisfied, she took me to the rocking chair and rocked me. After a short while she brought me downstairs and made hot chocolate for me before putting me to bed. That was the start of her coaching, drilling, scripting, and rehearsing.

“Over the next few years, I continued to become more anxious and fearful. At that point, I had learned to fight, flee, or freeze. I often chose the latter two. For instance, as a young child, I was given a new pair of jeans. I thought they would look cool if I cut off a couple of the belt loops. When my mother found I had done this, she spanked me repeatedly—as was her way—and had me remove all my clothes saying, ‘You’re not deserving of any clothes.’ Then she had me stand naked in the corner of her room.”

Continued…

MC98033 said...

On at least one occasion, Moses fought back. “One summer day in the Connecticut house, Mia accused me of leaving the curtains closed in the TV room; they had been drawn the day before when Dylan and Satchel were watching a movie. She insisted that I had closed them and left them that way. Her friend had come over to visit and while they were in the kitchen, my mother insisted I had shut the curtains. At that point, I couldn’t take it anymore and I lost it. I yelled at her, ‘You’re lying!’ She shot me a look and took me into the bathroom next to the TV room. She hit me uncontrollably all over my body. She slapped me, pushed me back and hit me on my chest. She said, ‘How dare you say I’m a liar in front of my friend. You’re the pathological liar.’ I was defeated, deflated, and beaten down. Mia had stripped me of my voice and my sense of self. It was clear that if I stepped even slightly outside her carefully crafted reality, she would not tolerate it. Yet, I grew up fiercely loyal and obedient to her, even though I lived in extreme fear of her. Based on my own experience, it’s possible that Mia rehearsed with Dylan what she ended up recording on video. As she had done with me, it’s conceivable she set the stage, the mood, and scripted what was to take place.”

Soon-Yi Previn says, “She just liked to pick on people. She chose the easy, vulnerable targets. She had a fierce temper. On one occasion, she kicked me and hit me again and again with the phone. She was always physical and violent with us. I learned to stay away from her and keep in survival mode, but Moses got the brunt by being too innocent, too sweet, to grasp the situation. She was regularly mentally and physically abusive to him.”

Two separate investigations concluded that there was no evidence of child abuse, but
there is evidence that Mia, who was (rightfully) outraged by Woody’s seduction of her daughter, used Dylan as a pawn to exact revenge upon her ex-lover and coached her to repeat a lie so many times she probably can no longer tell truth from fiction:

Around the time of the custody trial in 1993, a person who went often to the Farrow home found Dylan crying one day. The story has been confirmed with someone else who often visited. “Dylan asked me, ‘Is it okay to lie?’ She felt she didn’t want to lie and wondered, What would God think? She wanted an Attic Kids doll, but Mia forbade it. This was shortly before Dylan was to speak with someone connected with the trial. She said, ‘Mom wants me to say something I don’t want to say.’ Then the next week she had the Attic Kids doll with a yellow dress. I asked, ‘What happened?’ She said, ‘I did what my mom asked.’”

The story does not surprise Moses, who adds, “This, I can speak to with confidence. Mia’s ability and intent to mold her children to do her bidding was matched by her living in constant fear her secrets of abusive parenting would be divulged and the reputation she built as the loving mother of a large brood of adopted kids would be destroyed. My biggest fear was that we would be rejected, excommunicated rather, from her and the family. I lived in constant threat of this happening. As an adopted child, there is no bigger fear than to lose your family.”

Woody may be a creep but Mia comes across as completely deranged. Furthermore, unlike so many of these predators who have a PATTERN of repeated abuse, Woody Allen has been accused ONCE while in the middle of a custody dispute, and never again since. The allegation is that during the middle of a highly contentious custody battle, Woody went to a house (full of his enemies) and chose that moment to molest his 7 year old daughter. That just doesn't add up.

Yes, predators need to be taken down, but not EVERY person accused is guilty, and it's important to research and consider all of the facts before assigning guilt, no matter how much you like or dislike the guy personally.

MC98033 said...

Here are some links for anyone interested:

"Moses Farrow Speaks Out"

https://ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/

Yale New Haven Hospital Child sexual abuse evaluation/Dylan Farrow

https://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/yale-new-haven-hospital-allen.pdf

"Nanny Casts Doubt on Farrow Charges : Custody: She tells Allen's lawyers the actress pressured her to support molestation accusations against him. She says others have reservations."

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-02-02/news/mn-952_1_woody-allen

Sandra Miller said...

Since Dory was jilted by Woody for Mia, I'm sure her account of an event she didn't witness is totally unbiased and true, as opposed to the account of the victim.

Sandra Miller said...

Because it used to be that people didn't believe the victim.

Normal. Yes indeed. said...

Pseudo intellectual navel gazing, NYC style

Elle Kaye said...

Wow. Nasty indeed. He’s truly awful. Ugly inside and out.

Buffy Summers said...

Woody Alen is garbage and anyone who defends him is also awful.Ofc I believe Dylan Farrow,and she has every damn reason to call out every fked up celeb who still works with Woody.

just sayin' said...

You don't have to see a rape in action to know there's something wrong. I'm sick of people saying there's no forensic evidence to support Dylan's claims, therefore she's brainwashed and Mia's a psychopath. Some abusers are smart enough not to do things that leave a mark...no penetration, no ejaculation on the child, etc. Simply holding a child against one's erect penis while fully dressed, is abuse, is memorable to the child, is damaging and deeply disturbing for the rest of his/her life. Taking photos leaves no mark. I just can't with child rape apologists. It's so much worse to defend a possible abuser than to out them in a blind or other way before you can provide "proof". The word of a child victim is proof. Period.

Xpensive Hobutt said...

MIA FARROW

plot said...

" anyone who defends him is also awful."

That is simply not true. Broad angry statements like that don't help the cause of abused children, you know.

"she has every damn reason to call out every fked up celeb who still works with Woody."

Also known as a witch hunt against people who did not abuse her or abuse anyone for that matter. Nice chick.

"The word of a child victim is proof. Period."

That assumption led to a whole lot of innocent people spending lots of time in jail, wrecking their lives, back in the 80s and 90s during the child daycare satanic abuse hysteria.

Ya know I love ya, just sayin', but the sad reality is that people's memories can be manipulated, especially the memories of young children. It isn't fun to think about and it often stymies justice for victims that their memories are imperfect. Still, we can't believe everyone who claims they were abused, full stop.


just sayin' said...

What you say is true Plot, memories can be altered and I remember the McMartin case well, as I my kids were babies and toddlers during those years. False charges, whether based on lies or innocent false memories are devastating, I agree, but as a victim myself I have to always assume that the child is telling the truth. It is so hard to come out against a family member. Other family members who are also victims will often side against you. The damage and pain is too much to bear.

In the case of Dylan, if the legal case (which people saw as being connected to the Mia-Woody "divorce") had not happened when she was a child, but she came out against him as an adult, wouldn't it be easier to believe, considering all we know about him now? The whole crazy-scorned-woman-Mia-must-be-manipulating-Dylan spiel was powerful -- just another example of deeply imbedded misogyny in our culture -- and much more palatable for people to believe than that beloved, funny, self-effacing Woody could be so evil.

AngryLiberalKTS. said...

I was thinking along those lines as well. It was Nicholson's house lots of craziness going on for years.

plot said...

@just sayin'

I have a theory as to what happened between Dylan and Woody that makes them both correct, at least in their own minds. I DO think that Dylan was abused, absolutely. On the other hand, I don't think that Woody understands, at all, that what he did was abuse. I don't think that he believes himself to be attracted to 7 year olds, and he might not be. Woody was raised in an environment where no physical affection was expressed among his family members. He never saw his parents hug or kiss. They never hugged or kissed him either, at least after infancy. The lack of simple human physical interaction in Woody's childhood turned him into an adult obsessed with sex since that represented the only kind of legitimate touch that existed after he grew up.

Woody didn't know shit about children or normal fatherly behavior. He couldn't separate his own needs from Dylan's needs either, and imagined he was giving her the right type of affection he, himself, craved. But he wasn't. Woody might not have been sexually attracted to Dylan. In his own mind, that absolves him of guilt for Dylan's own feelings about the situation. You see, Woody is the center of the universe, being a narcissist, and he gets to decide what Dylan felt, not her.

Not one time has Woody admitted that there could exist a different interpretations to events other than his own. He hasn't acknowledged that plenty of people saw his creepy behavior around Dylan nor has he attempted to explain it. He thought everything he did was normal for fathers trying to express affection.

But the abuse is determined by the abused, not the abuser. It certainly isn't determined by whether the abuser is turned-on or not. All of Woody's attempts to smother Dylan, sequester her away from the nannies and siblings, make her the focus of his gaze and vice versa, definitely holds a sexual element that Dylan, the grown woman, can't escape no matter how little Woody might feel it.

Woody is probably completely incapable of expressing any warm or affection without a sexual tinge to it.

I don't think legally there is anything to be done here. I really dislike Dylan's witch hunt for anyone and everyone who works with Woody. But I do believe she was abused and deeply injured.

shamaro said...

Bullshit! Enty is a mouthpiece of the whackadoodle Farrow clan

katsm0711 said...

Me too, @amartel. Mia is batshit crazy. It takes more balls to take a stand rather than go along with everyone else.

katsm0711 said...

Thank you @palmettobug. The lies people are willing to believe are absolutely rediculous!

katsm0711 said...

Mia coached the kid so much that the kid turkey believes she was molested. Talk about child abuse!

katsm0711 said...

Thank you @mc9!!! Mia is a nut job!

Epileptic Spudmonkey said...

Keep your head buried in the sand you utter moron

Epileptic Spudmonkey said...

Complete bullshit, children can be trained to lie absolutely

Christine 16 said...

R Bee, that is a common misconception of the case though. He didn't bring her up as his adopted daughter. Soon-Yi's adopted father was Mia Farrow's ex-husband5 Andre Previn. Woody Allen was not a father figure to Soon-yi. He barely spent any time with her... as a matter of fact, Mia Farrow wanted him to get to know her better and encouraged him to start hanging out with her. They started going to bball games together, started getting to know each other, started an affair from there. I definitely think it was wrong of him to begin a relationship with his gf's adopted daughter- especially while he was still with that gf when it started. However, there was definitely no father/daughter relationship going on between those 2

Christine 16 said...

He was roasting her... not throwing shade.

plot said...

" He barely spent any time with her."

Until she started blooming that is, as a young teen, then Woody's interest in her bloomed as well and he asked for alone time with Soon Yi. heh.

He knew Soon Yi well enough to put her young self in his movies, didn't he?

It was wrong, no matter what his early relationship with Soon Yi. That is all.

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