Comments on Crazy Days and Nights: Lebanese Singer Mutilated And Murdered

Well I am with Nina on this one.Most of you talkin...

2008-08-06T06:14:00.000-07:00

Well I am with Nina on this one.

Most of you talking stupid like Selenakyle are ignorant bitches who know nothing about the Middle East to comment in such a way.

I am not Middle Eastern, yet I know from travel and friends that most of you have it wrong. Same people who THINK they are up on international politics yet do not know anything.

I'm with SelenaKyle on this one. Oh and Bionic Bun...

2008-07-31T17:06:00.000-07:00

I'm with SelenaKyle on this one. Oh and Bionic Bunny, his name is Tony Bourdain, and he is sexy hot! (sorry, off topic)

selena, i'm with you, and i'm certainly no racist....

2008-07-30T18:46:00.000-07:00

selena, i'm with you, and i'm certainly no racist. i especially loved it when you said "who said i was white?"
something we all need to remember, is that even though the muslim laws may only apply to muslim women, muslim men often look at all women in the same way.
female soldiers in iraq are taught this, and are not to leave the base by themselves or be out after dark (no, i don't know the exact rules, but you guys get my drift).
i recently saw an episode of tony dourbain (sp?) "No reservations" when he was in dubai? they had to be evacuated when the violence suddenly erupted in an area where they had been staying. they couldn't leave the country, or for that matter, the hotel they had been moved to.
yes, this happens in america, but our laws ALWAYS support the victims. often in these middle eastern countries, men are always right.
this poor, poor woman. i'm sure it was her husband or a hired assassin, and i doubt justice will be served.

I'm not into this dispute, but I am going to offer...

2008-07-30T16:39:00.000-07:00

I'm not into this dispute, but I am going to offer an English critique. I think using the word "dehydrated" was a beautiful choice of an adjective and Selenakyle could possibly have a future as a brilliant writer.

As I stated before. I was also going by my persona...

2008-07-30T14:40:00.000-07:00

As I stated before. I was also going by my personal experience.

Selena, Was OJ Simpson a "camel Jockey" too? There...

2008-07-30T14:31:00.000-07:00

Selena,
Was OJ Simpson a "camel Jockey" too?
There will always be men in the world who believe that a woman is their possession...in every part of the world so please don't perpetuate the hate. Though I agree that some societies are more repressive towards women than others, making blanket statements about certain countries is ludicrous. Not everyone in the countries you mentioned is the same or has the same beliefs. There are people of different religions who do not do "honor killings."

FYI I was born in and lived in Iran when I was a child... I was neither "dehydrated" nor have I ever seen a camel in my life, except maybe at the zoo.

doesn't Tara Reid "work" Dubai?

2008-07-30T13:52:00.000-07:00

doesn't Tara Reid "work" Dubai?

right and your original comment still is not accur...

2008-07-30T13:48:00.000-07:00

right and your original comment still is not accurate, you said women when in fact its muslim women who have to follow these rules not Westernized women in Dubai just like drinking,dancing and whatever else you are going to refer to.

done.

Please try re-reading my original comment. I didn'...

2008-07-30T13:25:00.000-07:00

Please try re-reading my original comment. I didn't say women weren't allowed on the beach but that they were allowed only at certain times.

What I wrote was based my own personal experience....

2008-07-30T13:22:00.000-07:00

What I wrote was based my own personal experience.

As well this is from a travel guide wesbite regarding Dubai:

Some local men could be described as "foreigner-hunters" and I have heard part of the reason for men seeking out foreign women is because generally these women have a reputation as being less conservative in their actions with men (less conservative than, say, Muslim women). In order to avoid confrontation (which has already happened several times), it is best that women travel in groups or with other men they know and can trust. Most places in the area are very aware of some of these issues and because of that are very accommodating in having specific "women only" areas and "women only" days. All of the local public beaches have designated "women only" days each week.

...As I said, "all subjugating men around the enti...

2008-07-30T13:06:00.000-07:00

...As I said, "all subjugating men around the entire globe..."

And not all racists are white.

jesus christ...get a clue. Dubai is only made up o...

2008-07-30T13:00:00.000-07:00

jesus christ...get a clue. Dubai is only made up of 20% locals the rest (80%)are from all over the world settling in to make Dubai a huge tourist attraction after the oil runs dry in 2015.

women ARE allowed on the beach, the rules you refer to are for practicing muslim women under the veil! those same women go home and take it off and watch Dubai Idol or whatever just like the rest of us in the West.

Dubai is completely modernized with some of the best fucking shopping around.

Who said anything about me being white?

2008-07-30T12:58:00.000-07:00

Who said anything about me being white?

this is the thing about racism that drives me nuts...

2008-07-30T12:53:00.000-07:00

this is the thing about racism that drives me nuts.

You think she was killed because she was Middle Eastern, in a Middle Eastern country and married to a "sand jockey"

If she had been a white American, it would just be a case of her husband being a possessive psycho. She wasn't killed because of her culture or ethnicity but because she was in the process of divorcing a fucking lunatic.

For the record, the UAE follows the divorce laws of the country the foreigner belongs to. She has full rights of divorce in Lebanon in civil court. The are various techniclities based on interfaith marriages, laws for Druze populations and so forth. She also has right of divorce in Sharia court if she is Muslim - not all Lebanese are, 1/3 are Christian Maronite - so it most likely has nothing to do with the ramifications of the case.

Additionally Selena, if you were even remotely aware of Women's right's in a global context, you would be aware the Middle Eastern women, particularly Muslim women, had access to rights of divorce long before us enlightened folk in the west, and were afforded other right ahead of us as well. The current situation is a result of the fallout of the Pan-Arabic movement and subsequent Islamic Revolution amongst other forces and shaping factors, and thats based on a very narrow, western, WHITE understanding of feminism anyways.

They'll side with her husband. No law was broken,...

2008-07-30T12:34:00.000-07:00

They'll side with her husband. No law was broken, women are trash, blah, blah, blah.

Thanks, judi! I got hot there for a minute but I ...

2008-07-30T12:20:00.000-07:00

Thanks, judi! I got hot there for a minute but I can't stand the injustice I hear about around the world sometimes.

I hear you, Selena. You've written nothing that i...

2008-07-30T12:09:00.000-07:00

I hear you, Selena. You've written nothing that isn't true. This murder was personal. If her husband didn't do it himself, then he hired someone to do it. Poor, poor woman. She must have be terrified and suffered horribly.

I'm gonna risk sounding like a naive, idiotic rac...

2008-07-30T11:51:00.000-07:00

I'm gonna risk sounding like a naive, idiotic racist here, but I'm putting on my women's rights hat now so hear me out--

These f*cking camel jockeys kill their OWN DAUGHTERS if they get a divorce and "disgrace" their family.

Who the hell thinks a husband himself wouldn't think twice about killing his wife if she wants to make her own decisions?

Makes me sick to death and back again.

Sorry, bring on the "you're making hate speech" comments if this offends aniyone out there.

Dubai, Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, wherever the hell any of these dehydrated, sexually repressed God-forsaken places are--they ALL subjugate women and frankly it makes me wanna puke.

What woman amongst us (and most modern men, too) are not outraged by the way women are treated around the world?

I mean, come on. Fuck those fucking asshole bastards!

And that goes for the GD Africans who circumcise their women, too.

All subjugating men around the entire globe deserve to die a horrible, slow terrifying death and go straight to hell.

They ALL SUCK!!!!!!!

Poor beautiful talented lady.

rant over

Stabbing in the face - attacker knows victim well,...

2008-07-30T11:48:00.000-07:00

Stabbing in the face - attacker knows victim well, and the crime is emotional - thought not necessarily spontaneous.

Sad. She was pretty. Horrible death.

Unfortunately this type of crime happens every day...

2008-07-30T11:46:00.000-07:00

Unfortunately this type of crime happens every day in the U.S. when a woman tries to leave a man.

This type of crime is usually a crime of passion d...

2008-07-30T11:43:00.000-07:00

This type of crime is usually a crime of passion done by a person well known to the victim. Just horrible - and I hope if it was the husband that he gets what he deserves...This poor woman.

Sexecution - "Pick men very carefully is the lesson to be learned from this"... Unfortunately you could think you have the BEST guy in the world and then something snaps... while there can be and usually will be red flags they cover the signs up all too well until it's too late. Please don't blame the vicitm for her "bad judgement".

Ice Angel, while Dubai has modern things about it ...

2008-07-30T11:25:00.000-07:00

Ice Angel, while Dubai has modern things about it it also have very old ways about it too. For example, women are not allowed at the beach unless it's a certain day and then they must be covered up (not head to toe) but no flashy stuff. You can wear shorts but expect to be gawked at.
My point? The investigation may not be as western as it we would like it to be. That's too bad - I think we can all guess who did this.

Oh...and I didn't mean to sound unsympathetic in m...

2008-07-30T11:17:00.001-07:00

Oh...and I didn't mean to sound unsympathetic in my last post. This is a horrible crime. What a beautiful young woman. Tragic.

I know Dubai is halfway around the world, but it i...

2008-07-30T11:17:00.000-07:00

I know Dubai is halfway around the world, but it is a very modern country with western laws and culture. It's not a 3rd world country by any means. They will seek her murderer and prosecute to the full extent of the law. He would have been far better killing her in Lebanon!

he was definitely still in the photo and not happy...

2008-07-30T10:53:00.000-07:00

he was definitely still in the photo and not happy about her leaving him, especially to go to Dubai.

Def in the photo? no that would be picture. A common mistake for non native English speakers to make. Hmmmmm.

A lot of men believe women, specifically wives are possessions. I think the mutilation speaks to anger and hatred. I think no one will ever be charged. Pick men very carefully is the lesson to be learned from this. Poor thing.