Comments on Crazy Days and Nights: What Do You Think?

kelliknows:What clout Cruise may or may not have i...

2008-12-03T05:36:00.000-08:00

kelliknows:
What clout Cruise may or may not have is irrelevent--if he was speaking to Amazon, he was speaking for the CoS. The clout they have is lawyers who will sue, not for the purpose of winning, but for the purpose of costing the the other party money.

L. Ron Hubbard on lawsuits:

“The purpose of the suit is to harass and discourage rather than to win. The law can be used very easily to harass(...). If possible, of course, ruin him utterly.”
Source: The Scientologist - A Manual on the Dissemination of Material"
“We do not want Scientology to be reported in the press, anywhere else than on the religious pages of newspapers ... Therefore, we should be alert to sue for slander at the slightest chance so as to discourage the public presses from mentioning Scientology.”
Source: quoted in “Shudder into silence: The Church of Scientology doesn't take kindly to
negative coverage.

Amazon may be alternating between listing the book as out of stock or cancelling peoples orders, but when it comes down to, they're just not selling the damn book in any country, to anyone.

I'm confused..they're selling it here, not there, ...

2008-12-02T21:53:00.000-08:00

I'm confused..they're selling it here, not there, not here?? I'm sure a lot of their books (and movies, and CD's) offend someone--do they pull them??..don't believe Cruise has this much clout.. can't imagine him having any.

I just went to Amazon and here's what it says: Tem...

2008-12-02T20:14:00.000-08:00

I just went to Amazon and here's what it says: Temporarily out of stock. Order now and we'll deliver when available. We'll e-mail you with an estimated delivery date as soon as we have more information. Your account will only be charged when we ship the item. Ships from and sold by Amazon.com. Gift-wrap available.

I think you're absolutely correct. The UK isn't kn...

2008-12-02T19:10:00.000-08:00

I think you're absolutely correct. The UK isn't known as "The Nanny State" for nothing - where else can you go and have your every movement recorded 24/7? They're well-known for their use of CCTV - why not censorship of the written word?

i don't like peewee myself and I smell a rat. sor...

2008-12-02T18:01:00.000-08:00

i don't like peewee myself and I smell a rat. sorry Ent but usually where there's smoke there's fire and if he is innocent well then naw I don't believe it, he's guilty LOL.

fuck if someone sends me a skid of the books i'll ...

2008-12-02T15:29:00.000-08:00

fuck if someone sends me a skid of the books i'll sell them from my condo! FREE! fuck COS and their BS.

see my previous post)WHEN ALL I WANTED TO SAY, is ...

2008-12-02T15:25:00.000-08:00

see my previous post)
WHEN ALL I WANTED TO SAY, is that i read mortons's book.
and there's not a DAMN thing in there to get it yanked from shelves.
it's it's ego. there i some fun sco stuff, but operation clamback has much better dirt. true dirt, at that, because they're not afraid of these assholes.

*sigh*

A few months back, Amazon deleted all of the negat...

2008-12-02T15:13:00.000-08:00

A few months back, Amazon deleted all of the negative reviews of their Dianetics books, leaving mainly the 5-star reviews.

I also will have to disagree with Enty.

There is never a good reason to defend TommyGirl.

Shakey, I was just joking. :)

2008-12-02T14:07:00.000-08:00

Shakey, I was just joking. :)

As of a few minutes ago, there's no listing at all...

2008-12-02T14:02:00.000-08:00

As of a few minutes ago, there's no listing at all for it on Amazon US. I'm not finding it anyway. So I ordered it from Easons - thank you, Mary.
Sorry, can't follow you on this one, Enty. The pressure came from somewhere, and whether it was from TC or the COS, it's lame.

Does that mean Amazon is more afraid of dog fight ...

2008-12-02T13:53:00.000-08:00

Does that mean Amazon is more afraid of dog fight fans?

Just saw a commercial for ET Canada this evening - supposedly there's some big news coming from Tom Cruise. New lifts?

Mooshki - what's this about Miscavige helping with Vista? Is that why it tanked?

If Amazon caved it makes me even angrier because A...

2008-12-02T13:32:00.000-08:00

If Amazon caved it makes me even angrier because Amazon consistently refused to stop selling several dog-fighting magazines and cited "free speech" whenever they were confronted.

I saw PeeWee and Katie last night at the Tina Turn...

2008-12-02T12:28:00.000-08:00

I saw PeeWee and Katie last night at the Tina Turner concert at NYC's MSG. They had two security men with them and Tina called them out during the concert which made all the other celebrities in attendance pissed that they were not acknowledged. Poor Tom has nooo rhythm and for a married couple they showed no affection during the 2+ hour concert, I found that strange.

PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

2008-12-02T12:16:00.000-08:00

PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

One way or another Gay Cruise and his cult will be...

2008-12-02T12:07:00.000-08:00

One way or another Gay Cruise and his cult will be blamed since they are all nuts LOL.

They probably have dirt on Jeff Bezos.

2008-12-02T12:03:00.000-08:00

They probably have dirt on Jeff Bezos.

I agree. It was easier for Amazon to back off than...

2008-12-02T11:54:00.000-08:00

I agree. It was easier for Amazon to back off than to tangle with COS.

Amen, Mary. I'd heard the same thing.

2008-12-02T11:35:00.000-08:00

Amen, Mary. I'd heard the same thing.

Not disagreeing that the UK laws are an issue, tho...

2008-12-02T11:32:00.000-08:00

Not disagreeing that the UK laws are an issue, though--but I do think that Cruise/the Cos did have some influence on Amazon as well.

I beg to differ--you can get it in the US is you o...

2008-12-02T11:28:00.001-08:00

I beg to differ--you can get it in the US is you order it directly from Easons in Ireland, and have it shipped overseas. Amazon US was listing it as out of stock (which, in essence, is not selling it), and now I know of at least a few people who've had their pre-orders cancelled from Amazon US, and received this email:

Hello from Amazon.com.

We are sorry to report that we will not be able to obtain the following item(s) from your order:

John Duignan, et al "The Complex: An Insider Exposes the Covert
World of the Church of Scientology"
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1903582849

Though we had expected to be able to send this item to you, we've since found that it is not available from any of our sources at this time. We realize this is disappointing news to hear, and we apologize for the inconvenience we have caused you.

We have cancelled this item from your order.

Amazon--Cowards. The whole lot of 'em.

Oh, and John Travolta helped with the writing for ...

2008-12-02T11:28:00.000-08:00

Oh, and John Travolta helped with the writing for "Chinese Democracy"

I agree, it's the UK laws. But it's fun to blame e...

2008-12-02T11:24:00.000-08:00

I agree, it's the UK laws. But it's fun to blame everything on Scientology, regardless of the facts, isn't it? :) I heard Miscavige was one of the main designers of Microsoft Vista.