Comments on Crazy Days and Nights: What Would You Do?

Um, no.I'll tell you what, they can release Susan ...

2008-07-16T16:13:00.000-07:00

Um, no.

I'll tell you what, they can release Susan Atkins when Atkins can raise Sharon Tate from the dead.

*crickets*

AND when other people, who happen to have been born with, let's say, a tan, regularly get early release because of illness when they kill someone

*crickets*

That's what I thought. Nice knowing you Atkins.

I just want to say, first, that I agree she should...

2008-07-16T11:18:00.000-07:00

I just want to say, first, that I agree she should have no mercy. Those who show no mercy should not receive any either. However, even though everyone is saying let her rot in jail, she hasn't been in jail since March. She's been in a hospital near the jail. If it's a choice between her being in a hospital at the taxpayers expense ($1.4 million for four months, that's insane) or her say, being under house arrest for the last three months of her life, I have to take pause. I don't live in CA, but if I did, I'd be pretty pissed that my money was paying for end-of-life care, more or less, for this piece of garbage. If she actually were in jail, I'd say let her there to rot, but she's not. Also, just wanted to say, the reason people are focusing specifically on Tate, I think, is that that is the murder she specifically admitted to.

Susan should remain in jail. I'm a big Sharon Tat...

2008-07-16T09:33:00.000-07:00

Susan should remain in jail.

I'm a big Sharon Tate fan. I was in high school when she was killed and I was devastated. ENT, do you know anything about her and Jay Sebring?

I think she should have to stay in jail. No doubt...

2008-07-16T08:32:00.000-07:00

I think she should have to stay in jail. No doubt.

"Yes, she had karma coming, but let's be careful n...

2008-07-16T08:24:00.000-07:00

"Yes, she had karma coming, but let's be careful not to imply that everyone who gets brain cancer is reaping bad karma.!"

Good thing to remember. The son of some friends of my parents just passed away a few months ago after 5 years of fighting a tumor. He was in his 20s and had two young children. It was pure tragedy. :(

When I wish bad karma on people, I prefer things like stepping in dog poo, or not realizing they sat in chocolate ice cream. :) (Not to make light of what she did, I just don't think you can fight evil with evil.)

Nun- I can respect what you're saying, and I thin...

2008-07-16T08:16:00.000-07:00

Nun- I can respect what you're saying, and I think it is sad that so much money is spent on convicted criminals for living and healthcare. It's sad, it's wrong, and it has been that way for sometime. You can take the emotion out of all of this to some extent- BUT "compassionate release" right there says it all. They wouldn't be releasing her do to an unemotional reason, it's because they'd be feeling bad for her. She'd still get state issued Medicaid if she was released (I assume, not claiming to be an expert). So to me- she received her punishment for her heinous crime. She was given a trial, she was not lynched, nor violently attacked. She needs to finish paying her debt to society. IF she would be released for "compassinate reasons"--- isn't that putting WAY more emotion into this than keeping her locked up? There are fairly clear guidelines in law. If you do something illegal, and you are caught, and found guilty- there are repurcussions and punishments. I know if I speed, I may get a ticket. I know if I kill, I may in turn, be killed and/or imprisoned for life. No emotion about it. Just my thoughts!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,383124,00.html...

2008-07-16T08:03:00.000-07:00

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,383124,00.html

I do believe in forgiveness...Susan, I forgive you...

2008-07-16T04:52:00.000-07:00

I do believe in forgiveness...

Susan, I forgive you. Now get your ass back in that jail cell.

Oh, man. This post initially made me furious, and ...

2008-07-16T04:15:00.000-07:00

Oh, man. This post initially made me furious, and now I'm just filled with sorrow for so many of you and your various losses. Some of you are such strong, strong, people. I know that life isn't easy, but you've made me feel really grateful for the life I've had and the people I haven't yet lost. I'm so, so sorry. I truly can't imagine such grief.

Anyway. Way to be a Debbie Downer, Enty. Just kidding.

It's easy to concentrate on the most gruesome aspects of the Manson murders, but please keep in mind that Sharon Tate was one of MANY PEOPLE killed during that spree; she just happened to be utterly gorgeous, heavily pregnant, and involved with a super-famous director at the time, which lent a different kind of gravitas to her tragedy. It just seems as if you always hear this situation referred to as the Tate-LaBianca killings, when Abigail Folger and her husband were also slaughtered, as was Jay Siebring, as were several other people -- and Manson even hinted that there could have been even MORE murders. Susan Atkins is an accomplice to roughly a dozen murders, in addition to being a total murderer herself.

You know, in some indigenous cultures, things like rape and murder are sort of unheard of because if such crimes are committed, someone's uncle, brother, or father will hunt you down and promptly kill you. It's just a known fact that you will NOT get away with performing such insidious actions. I'm not saying this is proper justice, either, because I basically don't believe in the whole Eye for an Eye thing. I'm just saying that in our, ahem, advanced society, we still don't have a logical system of moral reasoning and repercussions.

And don't get me started on how few rape cases end up in favor of the victim.

It's just a sick, cruel, unjust world. Some of us are so lucky, and some of us aren't. But it doesn't mean that compassion should be extended to everybody.

Delighted that Atkins's request was denied.Nun, I ...

2008-07-16T03:07:00.000-07:00

Delighted that Atkins's request was denied.
Nun, I read news reports at the time, watched tv coverage of the trial (what a circus), read all the reports on the various dedicated web sites which have been updated over the years with additional info. There's a lot of it available. And as time goes on, these people talk, and those they talk to write books or publish using other media what they've learned.
Sandra Goode, last I read, lives near the Corcoran prison where Manson is incarcerated. Because she's an ex-con, she's not allowed to visit.
Ms., Sassafrass is correct.
Over my lifetime, there have been many close friends who met violent ends and nothing can bring them back. It's not even an issue. It's just so unbelievable and we struggle to understand. We grieve the loss; it's all that's left. My deepest condolences to all.

I have personally known Sharon Tate's sister Debra...

2008-07-15T23:25:00.000-07:00

I have personally known Sharon Tate's sister Debra, this has been a recurring nightmare for the family since the beginning. When they were sentenced to die, it was just, and justice was served. But, when the sentences were overturned to serving life with parole made their lives a more living hell, not only did the parents have a child to mourn but also an unborn grandchild, and nephew but they get to relive all of the horrific details at each and every parole hearing every five years or so (it is not only the Tate family but the other victims families too). The "Manson Family" crimes never go away, it is always there and will be until they are all dead, and rightly so.

Oh yea, I hope she rots in prison, she has had a life the last 39 years, has Sharon and the others? No, no they have not.

A truly heinous crime - stabbing a pregnant woman ...

2008-07-15T21:34:00.000-07:00

A truly heinous crime - stabbing a pregnant woman to death - received a serious sentence. That she is still alive rather than executed was lucky for her. I think she should serve out her sentence, "for the rest of her natural days."

I've been reading this blog for quite some time bu...

2008-07-15T21:12:00.000-07:00

I've been reading this blog for quite some time but I joined just now only to give my feedback on this topic:

She was a cancer to society - it is most befitting that she sucumbs to cancer. Perhpas in her painful last days she can truly see herself for what she was and repay her karmic debt to her victims and to society

It costs more to try/convict/carry out death penal...

2008-07-15T20:56:00.000-07:00

It costs more to try/convict/carry out death penalty cases than to imprison for life (with all the appeals and investigative work and public defenders, etc.). I don't think the death penalty is an effective crime deterrent, and I'm a registered Republican (with a definite libertarian streak). Does anyone really think Susan Atkins would've stopped because of the death penalty? I'm bringing that up in regards to Nunaurbiz's "logical" and "rational" cost-saving arguments.

If we would've let her out, as Nunaurbiz suggested, we'd still be paying for her expensive medical treatment. Does she even have any family who've maintained contact and would support her? I know it's a moot point now as they've already ruled but I'm glad she's not going anywhere for all the reasons mentioned above. I don't think she's remorseful and I did read that Sharon Tate's sister did not want her released.

Again to be "logical" about all this why should she be released? The only life she's ever really known has been behind bars. She's safer in prison than out--how many Jack Ruby's are out there? After reading the emotions expressed in these posts I think it's safe to assume there are people who feel very, very strongly about these killings and who knows what they'd do?

Give her family access to her and leave her where she is. That's best for everyone.

I think all of the women who followed Charley are ...

2008-07-15T20:39:00.000-07:00

I think all of the women who followed Charley are remorseful to some degree or another, save Sandra Goode, she's still an ardent devotee. I guess the reasoning is sound, carve an 8 month old fetus out of a woman, stay in jail.

I have NO sympathy for cold-blooded killers ESP wh...

2008-07-15T20:09:00.000-07:00

I have NO sympathy for cold-blooded killers ESP when the victim was pregnant.

Crazy Bitch!

Jewels I am so sorry for your loss. I too am a mother and fear what you have gone through.

Jewels, my heartfelt condolences. Unfortunately, ...

2008-07-15T18:59:00.000-07:00

Jewels, my heartfelt condolences. Unfortunately, sometimes the system doesn't work. I am sorry for your loss.

In the case of Susan Atkins and her 'family', they were sentenced to death and the sentences were commuted. While they are eligible for parole, the fact that they have never shown remorse, nor demonstrated an ability to feel compassion for others only reinforces their psychopathy and shared madness. Susan Atkins claims that she has found God, salvation, redemption, and so on. If that were truly the case, her focus would be on really being prepared to accept the salvation of the Creator. She's full of shit. Sharon's murdered baby, Richard Paul, was due the same time I was born. We'd be the same age. Susan has had a life, such that it is, based on her choices. That is more compassion than she deserved, and far more than she showed to her victims.
(Jumping off soapbox w/a thud!)

Jewels and all others who lost loved ones...my sym...

2008-07-15T18:24:00.000-07:00

Jewels and all others who lost loved ones...my sympathy is with all of you. I am so sorry you have to live with this.

If they let her out, then chances are somebody would kill her. And life without parole is just that - no parole, no matter what. I'm not a very big fan of the death penalty but I think people like her should be put down.

Her lawyers still filed in court to get her releas...

2008-07-15T18:17:00.000-07:00

Her lawyers still filed in court to get her released, so even though the parole board denied her she still has to be denied through there.

And I hope they aren't giving her morphine. That's too good for her.

I would say I'm a pretty lenient person who thinks...

2008-07-15T17:44:00.000-07:00

I would say I'm a pretty lenient person who thinks many of the punishments doled out for certain crimes are overly harsh, but absolutely not! There are some crimes a person should spend the rest of their days paying for. What was done to Sharon Tate and her friends was unspeakable. Susan Atkins has been shown a great deal more mercy than she showed her victims. Then again, who cares what I thine? If the court system has any question whatsoever, they should allow Sharon Tate's parents to decide.

I am very liberal .. VERY. But ya know what .. **c...

2008-07-15T17:30:00.000-07:00

I am very liberal .. VERY. But ya know what .. **ck Susan Atkins.

This b*tch brutally murdered a pregnant woman and - but for the sake of time .. or noises .. or I forget what - didn't get to carve out Sharon's unborn fetus like she wanted to. I agree with the DA.. she has no remorse.

If it was me .. I would have off'd this broad and the others a long time ago .. Death Penalty ruled inhumane or not. I am fine with life for one murder. However ..I strongly feel .. you commit multiple murders, you revoke the right to draw breath. These people should have been removed from the planet long, long ago.

I will no put my inner Neo Con away now .. sorry if I offended anyone.

And to Jewels and MS. my deepest, deepest sympathies.

Keep her in. Her sentence was for life, not until...

2008-07-15T17:20:00.000-07:00

Keep her in. Her sentence was for life, not until you get sick.

Helter Skelter has the complete horrific story.

2008-07-15T17:18:00.000-07:00

Helter Skelter has the complete horrific story.

no, they did not attempt to cut the baby out of Sh...

2008-07-15T16:34:00.000-07:00

no, they did not attempt to cut the baby out of Sharon. There are some books you can get about the murders and trials.

According to the LA Times, it has cost $1.4 millio...

2008-07-15T16:23:00.000-07:00

According to the LA Times, it has cost $1.4 million for her medical care and security since March.