tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post290491192979788122..comments2008-10-24T08:25:50.971-07:00ent lawyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08658046190988387228noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-58261762717868465742008-10-24T08:25:00.000-07:002008-10-24T08:25:00.000-07:00You guys are silly. I love you all.Harriet Hellfirehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13273140641643205278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-58115045170970440792008-10-24T00:16:00.000-07:002008-10-24T00:16:00.000-07:00FloJo died of the 'roids, sad to say.justpeachy130http://www.blogger.com/profile/17272091971276206567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-32020207569405595632008-10-23T22:58:00.000-07:002008-10-23T22:58:00.000-07:00not to get into the whole molly/jax/mooshki 08' debate here but remember flo jo? she died of a heartache a few years ago and she was in peak shape. i am overweight and a massage therapist and i think i am in good shape. i read a lot of health stuff since it is my profession and all and there have been articles out that talk about the thin "fat person" or the fat "thin person". this is because our bodies individually are meant to process things differently. i encourage all of you to have your blood tested and work with a nutritionalist who can tell you what YOU specifically need to be healthy. also bones are part of the equation, you have thin delicate bones that dont hold weight real well and larger dense bones that do (enty anyone ;).... what is important is what is on the inside. the things you eat as well as the cardiovascular you do. Now these two dancers have excellent cardio, however maybe they drink/smoke that needs to be taken into account. I wanted to let you know molly that i am sorry for your loss, but it seems to me like your family has a genetic thing going on. fat or thin the problem would still be there. And although we need to teach our younger generation to not be obese we MUST remember that so many are body conscious to the point of eating disorders that to say these two well rounded ladies are overweight is a sin, and if they are overweight than i dont know what healthy is. You cant say size 10 is healthy, nor 14. it is about so much more than that. so yeah, these two men are douche bags.<BR/>p.s. jax, i dont think your pmsing all the time, thats pure sassyness and to say that is a bit sexist, which coming from a woman is slighly ludicris.<BR/>okay, babbling over, night!Jasminehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13658518800251976948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-60443016164628894242008-10-23T19:22:00.000-07:002008-10-23T19:22:00.000-07:00lol...trogdor, thanks for the laugh. you're right. if i had some jack daniels i'd upload it for you.Mollyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01812795614613905032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-46104037626370367062008-10-23T18:06:00.000-07:002008-10-23T18:06:00.000-07:00wow.<BR/><BR/>Hey, whaddya guys think of me?<BR/><BR/>I love the sharing circle.<BR/><BR/>Who gets the stick next?!<BR/><BR/>hahha, j/k<BR/><BR/>It's funny cause if you go back and read the posts like I just did, you guys are all right. So why so serious?<BR/><BR/>Live healthy. Doesn't matter how you look, just be healthy.<BR/><BR/>Nothing worse than dying from something you could have controlled, right? Everything else is nature following Occam's Razor. And ain't jack you could do about that...<BR/><BR/>oooo, I feel like having some jack daniel's now...dammit...trogdorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14448923325883015294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-88071196954993386662008-10-23T14:59:00.000-07:002008-10-23T14:59:00.000-07:00Ya know, I'd really like to know the WHOLE of these comments in context, not just the stuff that was picked out to make headlines.. yes, Cheryl has put on some weight - she looks fine and just like a healthy young girl should look, but the cameras do pick on any extra ounces. I don't think they make her look like a blimp though!!Khttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16311671656579150167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-9419597348140954482008-10-23T14:50:00.000-07:002008-10-23T14:50:00.000-07:00Actually, it makes me think it is a very HEALTHY sport, in that it builds muscle and lean-ness, not Anorexia. I cannot tell you how horrible I feel that these tiny women dance around and then go eat a salad for lunch. These women enjoy life. I'm not fond of either one, but I love their weight.Jamie's Girlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00734553255425155702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-90937743462149343032008-10-23T14:25:00.000-07:002008-10-23T14:25:00.000-07:00lmao@bflogurl <BR/><BR/>yea, yea, i know....lolol...Mollyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01812795614613905032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-12985392446018454462008-10-23T14:15:00.000-07:002008-10-23T14:15:00.000-07:00Molly said... <BR/>"i don't want to get into an argument about this so it's the last thing i'll post"<BR/><BR/><BR/>hee hee, I'm just saying'......bflogurlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02223849632736068403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-89550579473814701822008-10-23T13:52:00.000-07:002008-10-23T13:52:00.000-07:00mooshki, i'll take your suggestions into consideration too and i'll email you later if that's okay.Mollyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01812795614613905032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-86746780442494557402008-10-23T13:48:00.000-07:002008-10-23T13:48:00.000-07:00Gladys, I'm head over heels in love with you.<BR/><BR/>Molly, I think we all try to ignore the negative comments as much as possible, but since you are here so much you're a big part of this community, so you're hard to ignore. Also, it's the fact that you are so often nice and/or funny that frustrates me - I just skip over the Sandman, DK/Suckno, Class Alpha posts, but I don't want to skip over yours because most of the time I like to read what you're saying. I know it's cheesy to get all pop-psych, but maybe when you're talking about Ent or other commenters, you could use "I" statements. It's silly, but "I often think Ent just pulls this stuff out of his ass" feels a lot less hostile than "Ent just pulls this stuff out of his ass." :) It's expressing an opinion vs. making an attack, at least from my perspective. I really would like it if you'd email me (mooshki at gmail dog com) so we could talk more off-list.Mooshkihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04756575398525781044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-58793376663816599332008-10-23T13:35:00.000-07:002008-10-23T13:35:00.000-07:00WOW....<BR/><BR/>I'm pretty sure this post is about 2 guys being jerking and dissing 2 of their co-stars regarding a little weight gain. <BR/><BR/>Breast cancer is most certainly an important topic, however it's OFF TOPIC. This is a gossip site, remember? I'm sure there are a ZILLION breast cancer forums which would accomodate your discussion. This is a gossip forum and is meant to be F-U-N.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps we should re-read the post and start over, yes?lyzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13957364178413882290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-17594240839414305702008-10-23T13:32:00.000-07:002008-10-23T13:32:00.000-07:00gladys, i said they were assholes for making the comments. i added it would only be understandable IF the person was concerned on a health level. i never wrote that i condoned what they said. my mother struggled with weight until she went through chemo, i feel for people who have that struggle.<BR/><BR/>as for my comment about louis....i wrote that louis is gay and being the victim of people making insensitive remarks, i would think he would be more sensitive himself. if you think that's homophobic, go back and read it again. my gay friends would be very upset to hear anyone considered me homophobic. you've got the wrong person on that count.<BR/><BR/>i'll take the rest of what you wrote into consideration. i'd also like you to consider the fact that i thank enty far more often than i've leveled any criticism of him. in many posts, at least once a day or once every two days, i'm giving him a 'thanks enty', so please pay attention to that and i'll pay attention to what i say. fair enough? and at least i stay out of the comments section of the posts that don't interest me, unlike people who post "who cares" or "nobody gives a shit, enty, post a reveal". that's pretty rude but i don't see anyone calling those people out.<BR/><BR/>as for other people, three of the most aggressive people on here have ripped me more than once and i'm sorry, but i don't put up with that shit. if they stay out of my face i'll stay out of theirs. you can see i respond respectfully when people ask questions respectfully, but i won't lay down and take it when the bullies go batshit.Mollyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01812795614613905032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-89045117705113157432008-10-23T12:26:00.000-07:002008-10-23T12:26:00.000-07:00Molly: Obesity is a personal subject for ME since I used to be morbidly obese. I have a special place for the people who are still so large that they are subject to ridicule and lectures from strangers.<BR/><BR/> That said, first of all, Cheryl and Lacey are so far from fat that I can't believe that anyone would have the gall to hint at it. Most women would kill to be their size. They just look healthy, and that's the goal.<BR/><BR/>Second, your comment about assholes and Louis seems to have gone unnoticed by anyone else, but it's homophobic. I have a sense of humor but I don't care for racism or homophobia or misogyny in my jokes. <BR/><BR/>Third, and this is the health professional in me, as well as the wounded fat girl from my childhood: it never does any good to get on a soapbox to tell people to lose weight. They know they're fat. You just make them feel more inadequate and then, like magic, they eat to feel better. <BR/><BR/>Statistics wise, while there is a slight link between obesity and a few cancers, including breast cancer, there is a much larger link between being more than 10% underweight and DEATH from all causes. <BR/><BR/>If you have a person that is 15% over their ideal body weight and exercises regularly (i.e., dancing), and a person that is 10% under their ideal body weight, exercising or not, the person most likely to die is the underweight one. People forget how parents used to worry about their scrawny kid---for good reason. <BR/><BR/>The key here is health, no matter what size. You can't go wrong if you're exercising and eating right (with an occasional case of Chick'n in the Biscuit thrown in for Enty's sake). <BR/><BR/>I know that you have a personal connection and concern re: breast cancer and I am sorry for your loss. But you might want to remember that each of us carries our own burdens and wounds, and perspectives, too. Using science to back up your beliefs is something we all want to do---even me, as you can see above---but the bottom line is that science and statistics can be manipulated and what is considered hard, medical fact today will be a laughable superstition tomorrow (I remember when the cure for an ulcer was drinking heavy cream--which more than likely made it worse). <BR/><BR/>You might want to be a little more sensitive in the way in which you comment--there are often times on here when I wince from what you've said, including this one. That flame war a few weeks ago with Ernestine still sits badly, and this one with Jax isn't pretty either. <BR/><BR/>This is Ent's blog and often your comments don't seem to respect that--he gets to decide what he posts, and we read it for entertainment alone. Certainly we're allowed to comment and disagree, but it's difficult when someone also seems to question the truth of what he says. I'd like to assume that he is who he says he is, and he just says what he thinks. <BR/><BR/>None of us want people we love to die, and I wish I could take away your pain from your mother's death, as well as your aunts.' Just remember though, that there might be someone out there whose relative just died from leukemia, perhaps related to the link between malnutrition and that blood cancer, or someone who is fifteen pounds overweight and already feeling badly about themselves---those people need our support and our encouragement to exercise and eat well, much more than they need another voice in the chorus telling them to lose weight. <BR/><BR/>IF Cheryl and Lacey WERE overweight, I think they would be great role models for the women in this country who don't fit into the preconceived idea of how women are supposed to look---and who are fit and healthy. You can't dance that much and not be in phenomenal condition, no matter how fat you are.<BR/><BR/>Just ask Enty. I'm sure going up and down those basement stairs has him in great aerobic shape.GladysKravitzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01169528517559071906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-88624177909596257552008-10-23T12:02:00.000-07:002008-10-23T12:02:00.000-07:00ohhhh boo hooo....another dysfunctional twat aka bad fish doesn't like me. <BR/><BR/>honey, you and jax have made my day. you two are so fucked up that if you did like me i'd have to wonder what my problem is. <BR/><BR/><BR/>go back to your facebook. how old are we? shit...lmao!!!Mollyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01812795614613905032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-13817291165454059772008-10-23T11:58:00.000-07:002008-10-23T11:58:00.000-07:00Molly, seriously. You're so universally despised, I hear about it just reading my Facebook update page. <BR/><BR/>As for Cheryl and Lacey, I think THEY should get over it. You're on TV. Yes, you're healthy for normal people. But you're on TV. This is how the entertainment world works. We can all stop patting ourselves on the back for being like so PC for accepting our own inability to get off our asses and stop stuffing our mouths. Just because they're "normal" looking doesn't mean I have to pretend that their current weights are attractive to me...which they are not. Just because its PC to say fat is okay, doesn't mean I'm going to. Cheryl looks great in a dress...seen her in a bikini lately? Let's be realistic here. They're not keeping up with the Hollywood crowd. And that's what I expect of the people who entertain me, damnit. If they're going to build a fortune on an image of "I'm better than you" then they damn well better be. I'm sorry that I feel if people are making money off of my attention span, that I think they should be held to a certain standard.Bad Fishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01352976662553945963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-9344701890710044412008-10-23T11:55:00.000-07:002008-10-23T11:55:00.000-07:00Well, I thought we heard that Maks and Cheryl were seeing each other right now.<BR/><BR/>Wonder where that came from?<BR/><BR/>Everyone loves Maks but this makes him sound like a dick. No doubt his ego is HUGE.<BR/><BR/>And Louis hasn't even been ON the show for a while...selenakylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16883189902232698160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-87100655119861841592008-10-23T11:38:00.000-07:002008-10-23T11:38:00.000-07:00mooshki, i'm sorry to hear that. we're all impacted some way. most of us anyways.<BR/><BR/>gee, there's only one person spazzing out here. who could it be? lolol....when they tell you they're nuts, believe them!Mollyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01812795614613905032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-18819970307841510082008-10-23T11:35:00.000-07:002008-10-23T11:35:00.000-07:00jax, go smoke a joint or something. you're the only who posts here that has pms 24/7.<BR/>--------------------------------<BR/>HA! welcome to the blog!<BR/>and you're the only one here playing fuckin hall monitor everyday with EL's posts and people's comments like its your full time job and guess what? there is more than a few that are fucking over it!<BR/>oh don't bother responding with some lame obvious comment that 10 people already pointed out....LOL.<BR/>next!jaxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13009699859972498455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-13773428384163273112008-10-23T11:31:00.001-07:002008-10-23T11:31:00.001-07:00Also, my best friend's mom died of genetically-related breast cancer when she was 5, so believe me, I also have an intense personal connection to this subject.Mooshkihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04756575398525781044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-87503834843400809712008-10-23T11:31:00.000-07:002008-10-23T11:31:00.000-07:00mooshki, all i know is what all these docs have said and the research they've given me and what i've read on my own. like i said, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. we agree most of the time anyway. ;)<BR/><BR/>adrian, amen.Mollyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01812795614613905032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-14646437590795717892008-10-23T11:29:00.000-07:002008-10-23T11:29:00.000-07:00Molly, those studies show a correlation with extra weight and cancer, but that correlation does not necessarily mean a direct cause-and-effect. It's more complicated than that. The newer research that breaks things down more has not become widely known yet.Mooshkihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04756575398525781044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-62319948072485446752008-10-23T11:26:00.000-07:002008-10-23T11:26:00.000-07:00They look normal &amp; healthy to me. It is a shame about the body image that has been created for women. If you don&#39;t look sick &amp; malnourished, you must be a whale.<BR/>Insteading of arguing about breast cancer, please go make appointments for you mamograms if you are due for one. That is more important.<BR/>Most breast cancer is spontaneous---skinny, fat, 1 in 8 women will get it, regardless of their weight.not a famous adrianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15353788038996844317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-50236817446261263892008-10-23T11:24:00.000-07:002008-10-23T11:24:00.000-07:00mooshki, extra pounds (not obesity) can increase the risk of kidney cancer, endomitrial (sp?) cancer and cancer of the esophagus. cancers are being linked to extra weight even when predisposition isn't there. other health risks are also being linked to being overweight. <BR/><BR/>this happens to be a hot button of mine, having lost my mother and two of my aunts, and now watching a third aunt die as she battles breast cancer. my friend who was only 36 just died two weeks ago and she's been battling since she was 27. All the doctors have said the same thing - stay away from drinking wine on a regular basis and keep your weight down because it increases the odds of specific cancers whether you're predisposed or not. mooshki, we'll have to agree to disagree on this. i'm coming from a completely different place than most people are and i've done reading and talking to doctors up the wazoo about it.<BR/><BR/>jax, go smoke a joint or something. you're the only who posts here that has pms 24/7.Mollyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01812795614613905032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-53779809970572147502008-10-23T11:15:00.001-07:002008-10-23T11:15:00.001-07:00right, jax, my mother's oncologist and my three aunt's oncologists and my physician don't know what they're talking about. How silly of them.<BR/><BR/>------------------------------<BR/>no dear, what's silly is you posting that ANY small weight can lead to breast cnacer. sorry i see that as irresponsible to make such a bold statement that is prob read by about 90% women and teens.jaxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13009699859972498455noreply@blogger.com