Comments on Crazy Days and Nights: No Photos No Baby?

"I just don't get why this woman in particular is ...

2008-07-23T06:28:00.000-07:00

"I just don't get why this woman in particular is getting so much of it."

I think it's a reaction to the Botox and the blond hair - it's easy to assume everything about her is fake now. I am still fond of her - I was crazy about her after "Dead Calm," but I wish she would go back to being more natural.

BB, the CDAN board is still there - it would be nice to get it hopping! (I love the new Facebook group, thanks Jax, but the board is probably better for organizing topics) http://crazydaysandnights.yuku.com/bcrazydaysandnights

AMEN, sistas!i think we should have an off topic (...

2008-07-22T22:06:00.000-07:00

AMEN, sistas!
i think we should have an off topic (whatever happened to the board) about all of our P.G. experiences and make charts or stickers or something. for those of us with increasing carpal tunnel. we can bring them all to "show-n-tell" if we're ever allowed to have another CDANCON.

I have had 4 c-sections. six days after the first...

2008-07-22T21:39:00.000-07:00

I have had 4 c-sections. six days after the first one I was driving and I wore white shorts, in the summer! Oh my....I was able to wear the same clothes I wore before I was pregnant. That was the first and last pregnancy where that happened and I am 5 ft tall. My good friend is tall, thin and never looked pregnant and didn't have to wear maternity clothes with her third pregnancy. I looked like I was having triplets with my third and fourth. My point? Every woman is different and every pregnancy is different. I believe her pregnancy more than I believe Suri is Tom's.

High fashion/high chairs was good but Sunday Monda...

2008-07-22T21:10:00.000-07:00

High fashion/high chairs was good but Sunday Monday made me laugh out loud.

I have seen women identical to Nicole who also wer...

2008-07-22T20:13:00.000-07:00

I have seen women identical to Nicole who also were 7 months pregnant in their regular jeans. It happens in the real world. They also pop right back into their jeans 4 days after the baby is born. AMA says that you just have to gain 20 pounds to have a healthy baby of 7 pounds. You could easily lose 13 pounds of water weight having a baby. It appears that is what Nicole did.

both my kids were over 8lbs.the first one i gained...

2008-07-22T19:59:00.000-07:00

both my kids were over 8lbs.
the first one i gained 58 lbs with, and lost 20 on the table, was down to my peak weight in less than 3 months (boobs even faster, i didn't breastfeed either of them).
second one i gained 5 lbs. lost almost nothing on the table. was back to peak weight in 6 weeks. was also terribly depressed, but that's another story.
also, my bleeding didn't last very long. and i was DESPERATE to get into "normal" clothes.

not a fan, either, but i see a little belly skin, and perhaps she is not breast feeding, either by choice (like me) or for other reasons.
i really hope she's not pimping the kid out, wherever it came from.
oh, yeah, anybody notice the DARK ROOTS in her hair? 30 years ago they didn't tell me not to dye my hair. or not to drink.
and the rumors about jamie lee curtis are unfounded. its called "google", people, it is your friend!
:)

Couple of comments:My best friend, 6 feet tall. G...

2008-07-22T19:54:00.000-07:00

Couple of comments:

My best friend, 6 feet tall. Gave birth the day after riding her mountain bike in a mini-marathon thing. Walked into the hospital, size 6 jeans. Then, 2 weeks after, proceeded to run a marathon. And, never gained too much weight anywhere, maybe a little in the boobs, kinda like Nicky there. Exercise/weight obsessed people are going to do things that are maybe not so great for the kids health, but to say she didn't give birth? Well, I defer that to her gyno.

As for that picture? Me thinks the poor lady justs needs a shot of java and a minute away from the bundle of joy. The first thing I did when I got home after my C-sec? Handed the kid to my mother and sat on my deck with a bloody mary. Ooohhh, bad mother!

Look a little closer people...those jeans are bare...

2008-07-22T18:50:00.000-07:00

Look a little closer people...those jeans are barely zipped up.

and my mom was another one of those who walked out of the hospital with me in her pre-pregancy jeans.

I've watched quite a few friends bounce back that quickly after a baby.

I don't believe the conspiracy theory about Nicole. She didn't sell pics of Isabella and Connor when she was with Tom. Why do you think she'd change now? Her career isn't sliding downwards like Tom's. She still has the room to do what she wants and remain at the top.

Can't believe I just wrote that since I'm not a NK fan.

Anyway, what I came on here to say to ENT was: PLE...

2008-07-22T18:47:00.000-07:00

Anyway, what I came on here to say to ENT was: PLEASE - blow the lid off Kidman's Kid. This is getting ridiculous.

The c-section does not make white clothes less dan...

2008-07-22T18:40:00.000-07:00

The c-section does not make white clothes less dangerous. Nope. Not just 2 weeks post partum. The white clothes gave the fraud away, IMO.

Mooshki, thanks for that. I do appreciate good sn...

2008-07-22T17:51:00.000-07:00

Mooshki, thanks for that. I do appreciate good snark, really. I just don't get why this woman in particular is getting so much of it. I do like a good laugh, but I couldn't believe anyone thought such a high profile woman, in this day and age, could get away with faking a pregnancy. Years ago it was doable, but not now.

If I could have any conspiracy theory come true, I'd want the one about Jim Morrison still being alive to be it. He was yummy, and even if he were old, fat and bald, he'd still be Jim.

My mother gained 11 pounds when she was pregnant w...

2008-07-22T17:34:00.000-07:00

My mother gained 11 pounds when she was pregnant with me, 18 with my brother (and he came in a 9.8.) Her body snapped back in no time.

The main point of similarity is my mother is tiny and has had borderline eating disorders like most Hollywood actresses.

I don't understand the force it takes to not eat, even while pregnant. But I know the image-concious mentality, where no-way-in-hell is the baby going to steal their body.

I also imagine Nicole had a c-section, which would make the white clothes less dangerous. I also see a residual belly there, though slight, and her tits are absolutely bigger.

Come on, folks. She was pregnant.

I had a baby and I gained a sh*tload of weight whe...

2008-07-22T16:52:00.000-07:00

I had a baby and I gained a sh*tload of weight when I was pregnant and I hate you all!

"I am laughing at the ridiculous conspiracy theori...

2008-07-22T15:04:00.000-07:00

"I am laughing at the ridiculous conspiracy theories here."

See, that's why we post them! For most people, it's all in good fun!

According to many, she never was really much of an...

2008-07-22T14:47:00.000-07:00

According to many, she never was really much of an actress. More of a social climber, and now more of a celebutard to try to stay famous.

Her bra is probably padded, it doesn't prove she gave birth. The bikini photos mentioned were well before she supposedly got pregnant.

I only ever gained baby weight and wear size 0's. And I still looked more pregnant than she ever will.

And even if she was, because of her age, she would have gained and not bounced back so fast.

I don't buy she was ever pregnant. Nothing wrong with using a surrogate, but utterly wrong to deny it if you did.

Much as I love the usual snark around these parts,...

2008-07-22T14:30:00.000-07:00

Much as I love the usual snark around these parts, I am laughing at the ridiculous conspiracy theories here. The woman had a baby, she had no reason to lie about it. She's an Oscar winner for godsake, not some fledgling celebutard who needs to reinvent herself for press. Also, there have been pictures of her sister lately which clearly show that she was not carrying a child.

I actually have a friend in Australia who took drama classes with this woman way back when, and according to her, she was sweet and demure, much as she appears to the press now, and was only concerned about becoming better at 'her craft'. She was not a lesbian, and wasn't a rampaging wench either. The woman married the wrong guy and has been paying for it ever since, which makes no sense given the arse that he has shown himself to be.

I'm not her biggest fan and have been kind of disappointed with some of her more recent work, but that said, give her a break! Faking a pregnancy and *gasp* going out with her husband without her baby?! Are you serious? You have a kid and suddenly you cease to exist? What kind of moronic thinking is that? Let me tell you, when you've been pregnant and haven't felt physically great for months, you look forward to reclaiming who you are and taking a break from the new role by spending time with your partner, while simultaneously cherishing your child from afar for a few hours. Firsthand experience here.

End o'rant.

Oh, and if you were talking about Jamie Lee Curtis...

2008-07-22T14:14:00.000-07:00

Oh, and if you were talking about Jamie Lee Curtis, I think she is too smart to care what people say. :)

"...what a shame these people get to live under su...

2008-07-22T14:12:00.000-07:00

"...what a shame these people get to live under such a high powered microscope."

The thing is, most of the people we gossip about ask for it to a great extent. It is possible to stay mostly out of the limelight if you want. I agree that the public and paps can go too far, but I'd consider Nicole fair game for silly speculation.

@notachance--Women exposed to DES before birth (in...

2008-07-22T14:10:00.000-07:00

@notachance--
Women exposed to DES before birth (in the womb), known as DES Daughters, are at an increased risk for clear cell adenocarcinoma (CCA) of the vagina and cervix, reproductive tract structural differences, pregnancy complications, infertility, and auto-immune disorders. Although DES Daughters appear to be at highest risk for clear cell cancer in their teens and early 20s, cases have been reported in DES Daughters in their 30s and 40s (Hatch, 1998).
I know a few people who could not have children for the above reasons--I know it doesn't pertain to everyone, but Janet Lee did have a few miscarriages, & may have taken the drug.

"Jamie Lee is at the right age for being a DES bab...

2008-07-22T14:06:00.000-07:00

"Jamie Lee is at the right age for being a DES baby--probably why she was never able to have kids."

Don't know about that, I'm a DES daughter and I had a child. DES increases your chances for cervical cancer. In a male child they may be born with only one testicle and have increased risk of tesicular cancer.

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Back to topic - what a shame these people get to live under such a high powered microscope. We disect every inch of what they do and sit in judgement without the facts (Ted C., Lainey, etc. are not givers of facts).

My friend gave birth the day after Nicole did. she...

2008-07-22T13:59:00.000-07:00

My friend gave birth the day after Nicole did. she had a 8lb 10oz baby and was all stomach. She still has a good sized pooch and is wearing sweats and t-shirts.

there is NO way this woman just gave birth two wee...

2008-07-22T13:49:00.000-07:00

there is NO way this woman just gave birth two weeks ago

those white pants would not last 20 minutes without ... well, you ladies know

"I take Lainey with a grain of salt and Ted C. wit...

2008-07-22T13:45:00.000-07:00

"I take Lainey with a grain of salt and Ted C. with couple of Advils."
--Hah!!!

"...judge is what we do,some have crafts and stamp collecting. we point and judge. it's who we are."
--Sad but true! :):):)

To be fair to Nicole, there are rumors that Tom and/or Scientology blackmailed her into giving up custody of the kids, and she is only allowed to see them when Tom lets her. Who knows?

Thanks for the info, YoYo. And thanks for the lau...

2008-07-22T13:12:00.000-07:00

Thanks for the info, YoYo.

And thanks for the laugh (as usual), Jax.

Jamie Lee is at the right age for being a DES baby...

2008-07-22T13:01:00.000-07:00

Jamie Lee is at the right age for being a DES baby--probably why she was never able to have kids.
As someone who has had kids, the thought of wearing jeans in the summer after giving birth is revolting--you want something as loose as possible because your stomach contracts down for a good few weeks. And White???