Comments on Crazy Days and Nights: Today's Blind Items - Classic Hollywood

Damn. I didn't realize that Bobby Darin and Jack ...

2008-07-01T20:47:00.000-07:00

Damn. I didn't realize that Bobby Darin and Jack Nickolson shared that in common.

peter lawford also roamed with the rat pack, he ha...

2008-07-01T16:51:00.000-07:00

peter lawford also roamed with the rat pack, he had connections all over the place.

frank is an obvious guess, but i like the bobby darren.

no way would it be sammy. rat pack or not, sammy was still a black man (and a jewish one, at that) back in the day. he never garnered the full respect he deserved. i really miss sammy!

Kraymond and Ayesha ~ I am totally on board with y...

2008-07-01T13:25:00.000-07:00

Kraymond and Ayesha ~ I am totally on board with your Bobby Darin guess. He was the first person I thought of...he was very moody and had a quick temper. He pretty much stalked Sandra Dee until she agreed to go out with him. She had her own issues, and became emotionally dependent on him after their marriage, and he treated her really badly.

He also was very screwed up after finding out that the woman he thought was his sister was actually his mother, and the woman he thought was his mother was really his grandmother.

Oooh ~ I hope this gets revealed next week.

Shakey- I rescinded my Moondoggie guess and went w...

2008-07-01T09:00:00.000-07:00

Shakey- I rescinded my Moondoggie guess and went with Elvis "Peanut Butter and Bacon" Presley. His movies were pretty bad.

Though, it's probably someone we haven't even guessed.

Maybe I'll get in the "Pat Boone" car. It's a quirky guess, I like quirky.

Actually the term "Rat Pack" preceded Dean Martin....

2008-07-01T08:57:00.000-07:00

Actually the term "Rat Pack" preceded Dean Martin. Bogie was the first leader, along with Lauren Bacall, Judy Garland, and her husband. Young Sinatra was hanging around them at the time and the group ended up evolving around him.

I dunno flora, James Darren is still alive ... He'...

2008-07-01T08:56:00.000-07:00

I dunno flora, James Darren is still alive ... He's also the godfather to Nancy Sinatra's daughter. It probably is Frank, though. Such a bully.

'gossip monger' - i hate you, let it be known!you ...

2008-07-01T08:50:00.000-07:00

'gossip monger' - i hate you, let it be known!

you bitch.

I'm really hoping it's Frank "I moved to Vegas but...

2008-07-01T08:19:00.000-07:00

I'm really hoping it's Frank "I moved to Vegas but forgot to pack my talent" Sinatra. Blech -- what a bloated windbag he ended up becoming!

I doubt it was Sammy and I also like to think Dino...

2008-07-01T07:08:00.000-07:00

I doubt it was Sammy and I also like to think Dino wouldn't do it, nor would he need to.

Therefore I'm going with Pat Boone!

Mia, I just watched the Dean biography, too. Very...

2008-07-01T05:02:00.000-07:00

Mia, I just watched the Dean biography, too. Very interesting program. I hope this isn't Dean - he seemed like too nice a person to do something like this.

For all the Dean Martin guesses, I don't think he ...

2008-06-30T21:30:00.000-07:00

For all the Dean Martin guesses, I don't think he could be considered B list anything. Dean Martin was and is one of the only stars to have hits and be A list in EVERY facet of the entertainment industry, from radio to television to movies to screen to stage. And wasn't it HIS stage show in Las Vegas that eventually had all the rest of the guys on it, coining the term 'the rat pack' to begin with? (And lets not even start on his work with Jerry Lewis)

Frank was great and all, but Dean was A list EVERYTHING. He even notoriously topped the Beatles in the charts in the height of the british invasion.

(Sorry, I happened to just have watched a biography on Dino.)

this blind doesn't say the singer/actor actually c...

2008-06-30T20:41:00.000-07:00

this blind doesn't say the singer/actor actually caused the death. it says he threatened and then that "later the cop was dead," but i don't think that this can be fodder for a lawsuit.

Yeah, I don't think there were any ties at the tim...

2008-06-30T20:12:00.000-07:00

Yeah, I don't think there were any ties at the time of his death....I only mentioned his family because of the fortune, and I think Priscilla and Lisa Marie inherited ALL of it....and that would give them the "wherewithal" to sue, if someone flat out called him a killer or an accomplice.

In relation to the other men mentioned---I don't how much money there is in, say, Dean-o's estate, or Sinatra's or Crosby's. And I don't know anything about their heirs at all. Elvis's heirs give me pause when it comes to thinking about "reveals" or thinking about why such an old item is even a blind at all: because he's the only one of these dudes whose family is as famous (I mean, nancy Sinatra had some songs and stuff, but the Presleys are more in the public eye, still...is what I meant by mentioning them...

Ragdoll- "Don't let her face fool ya"- good (and f...

2008-06-30T19:53:00.000-07:00

Ragdoll- "Don't let her face fool ya"- good (and funny) point about Priscilla. And she's a Scientologist, so double whammy!

But dang, they were divorced long before he OD'd!!!! Cut the strings already, damn!

Though- if the answer is NOT Elvis, the Old Hollywood = dead people still stands, so therefore => reveal! ;p

Elvis also had a "thing" for firearms: he shot up ...

2008-06-30T19:50:00.000-07:00

Elvis also had a "thing" for firearms: he shot up his own car once for not starting. (DeTomasso Pantera. Not the car from Kill Bill, the other DeTomasso. Pretty, but piece of shit cars..)

flora:AND your point about "not being able to piss...

2008-06-30T19:38:00.000-07:00

flora:

AND your point about "not being able to piss off the dead" is a DAMN good point: Elvis is dead, but Priscilla is alive (I know. Don't let her face fool ya)and probably capable of using The King's money to sue anyone who'd call him a murderer or an accomplice to murder....

Personally, I'm on the Sinatra bandwagon, regardle...

2008-06-30T19:35:00.000-07:00

Personally, I'm on the Sinatra bandwagon, regardless of the Oscar. I think the "even remember her" refers to Sinatra and the numbers of women who reputedly threw themselves at him.
Personally, I discount Bobby Darin because of his relationship with Sandra Dee - even if he was a colossal dickweed, she never remarried after his death. That says something in my book.

Okay, Amy, Dino did supposedly drink apple juice h...

2008-06-30T19:33:00.000-07:00

Okay, Amy, Dino did supposedly drink apple juice half the time he was supposedly hitting the sauce, so I'll give you that, but his womanizing was well known. Maybe not as big of a dog as the rest of the 'pack, but he had already hooked up with wife #2 while married to wife #1, so I'll leave that one alone.

Aw, heck. I guess I have to get off the Italian train altogether.

Now jumping on the Elvis train. Especially after seeing picture #2 here:
http://janetcharltonshollywood.com/gossip/elvis/elvis_in_his_prime_20080628.php

Actually, Dino drank far less than his image portr...

2008-06-30T18:46:00.000-07:00

Actually, Dino drank far less than his image portrayed -- he also wasn't the lady killer that most of them were. It was an image thing.

I go with Sinatra -- he may have won an Oscar back in the day, but he was doing guest spots on Hawaii Five-0 before it was said and done. Also, I can see him having someone whacked. Wasn't he tight with Sam Giancano (sp?)?

* Early on, at the Copacabana, he insisted that bl...

2008-06-30T18:16:00.000-07:00

* Early on, at the Copacabana, he insisted that black comic Nipsey Russell be his opening act. This was a very hard sell in the era of nightclub segregation, but perhaps because Darin had set the attendance mark (eclipsing Frank Sinatra), his request was grudgingly granted by Jules Podell, the Frank Costello (mob boss) manager of the Copa.

* Asking to be taken seriously, he took on more meaningful movie roles, and in 1962 he won the Golden Globe Award for "Most Promising Male Newcomer", for his role in Pressure Point. In 1963 he was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor for his role as a shell-shocked soldier in Captain Newman, M.D. At the Cannes Film Festival in France, where his records—in particular "Beyond the Sea"—brought him a wide following, he won the French Film Critics Award for Best Actor.

* Bobby Darin had a lifelong heart problem and crippling pain. He notoriously took a lot of pills & drank, hence the "They had a thing, but how he could even remember her, I have no clue." remark... by my guesstimate.

Thanks, Ayesha! Finally... someone's on board wit...

2008-06-30T17:55:00.000-07:00

Thanks, Ayesha! Finally... someone's on board with me? ;)

And yes, a real mthrfker! I wouldn't put if past him for a second. You should read the book his own son wrote about him.

kraymond, you might be on to something. Bobby Dar...

2008-06-30T17:52:00.000-07:00

kraymond, you might be on to something. Bobby Darrin was a real bastid, wasn't he?

After five minutes alone on my own limb, I think I...

2008-06-30T17:04:00.000-07:00

After five minutes alone on my own limb, I think I'm going to retract James Darren and go with Dino after all. He had pretty slippery scruples when it came to women anyway, and the ample daily dosages of alcohol probably would only facilitate otherwise dubious behaviors.

* Here's another vote for the Old Hollywood blinds to be in the Big Reveal! Who are you going to piss off if they're all dead!?!?!? ;p

sinatra received an oscar- so he can't be consider...

2008-06-30T16:52:00.000-07:00

sinatra received an oscar- so he can't be considered b list actor

A List Singer is definitely Dean and B List actor ...

2008-06-30T16:49:00.000-07:00

A List Singer is definitely Dean and B List actor fits him really well. There is no way in hell Elvis, Bing or Frank is B list anything. Doesn't matter.