tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post5676987877718430750..comments2024-03-20T02:18:58.950-07:00Comments on Crazy Days and Nights: The Only Survivor Of Her First Grade Classent lawyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08658046190988387228noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-91017776790085568522012-12-18T08:31:13.525-08:002012-12-18T08:31:13.525-08:00It IS sad, @katsm! My son just asked us last nigh...It IS sad, @katsm! My son just asked us last night if we know anything else yet. He's 9. I explained the shooter was dead and that's about all we'll ever know for sure. But that he's safe, etc. As for the rest of it, it drives me crazy. I've logged off my FB because the ignorance is flying and these are my FRIENDS!! I have to disconnect. It's the only way to stay sane through all the misinformation. I come here for the gossip, so I'll keep coming here, but it's really frustrating to hear all this wrong stuff. I'll wait for a well written article, once all the reports are in and everything is confirmed. Silly Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497892642422020274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-56850691804095813162012-12-18T08:25:02.398-08:002012-12-18T08:25:02.398-08:00@silly I never saw worse, more unconfirmed reports...@silly I never saw worse, more unconfirmed reports in my life than for the Newtown tragedy. I can't believe the incorrect info people are spreading bc of course we trust what's on the news, me included! I stopped watching tv only reading an article here n there. I'm thinking of driving over to Newtown bc it's the only way I can grasp what happened. As far as details I'm waiting until the examiners are finished piecing it all together. The speculation just drives me mad. katsm0711https://www.blogger.com/profile/12705636746415562153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-84796235326869651392012-12-18T07:48:22.366-08:002012-12-18T07:48:22.366-08:00Or, we can continue to guess what was going on, bu...Or, we can continue to guess what was going on, but we'll never know the truth. And I mean the actual truth. HIPAA will prevent us from knowing an actual diagnosis, if there ever was one. Autism and/or Asberger's is NOT mental illness. We are guessing at all the rest. Autism and/or Asberger's didn't make him a violent person. <br />Bottom line, we are looking for answers, and with the advent of social media at our disposal, we think we can collectively arm chair quarterback a diagnosis so it all fits nicely into a package we can explain to make ourselves feel better. Not going to happen. People do bad things. That's life. We can protect ourselves as much as possible, and try to get help for those who we think need it, but bottom line, shit happens. We are, as a society, trying to rationalize WHY this happened. We can't. We need to accept it and deal with it.<br />For the record, I'm a parent, I work with people on a daily basis. Some disturbed, some not. I support mental health programs and the right to carry a firearm (along with that comes the proper paperwork, background checks, and documentation). I don't support assault rifles or the like, nor do I support buying them on the black market or by any other illegal means. <br />It breaks my heart, what happened in CT, OR, CO, AL, OH, you name the state/situation, it just breaks my heart. I'm not immune to the tragedy, I just think we need to stop looking for the elusive 'why?'.Silly Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497892642422020274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-44403777138968427082012-12-18T06:07:35.448-08:002012-12-18T06:07:35.448-08:00I more than doubt this kid had Asperger's - my...I more than doubt this kid had Asperger's - my compassionate, kind, talk-your-ear-off nephew has Asperger's. <br /><br />I fully believe Adam Lanza's mom lied to everyone (maybe even herself?) this was his diagnosis rather than tell the truth, which is schizo-effective disorder, which is packaged with insensitivity to physical pain, which was one of Adam's issues.<br /><br /> This very serious diagnosis would be more off-putting to friends and educators, since public schools that mainstream autism might balk at schizo-effective disorder, and likely did at some point. But as an exhausted mom with a marriage breaking up, she needed that kid in school to give herself a few hours' break from him. So she called it Asperger's or latched on to this early guess of diagnosis rather than proceed with a more serious diagnosis. Look at that kids eyes in the tech club. That's not Asperger's.<br /><br /> Most Asperger's kids are animated, which differentiates them from the other spectrum of autism, and are not mute or emotionally blunt. If an Asperger's kid gets a splinter, that kid is going to howl, then research how wood splits and why for the next three days. <br /> Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15816804930238526216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-49283921661545562962012-12-17T21:23:33.254-08:002012-12-17T21:23:33.254-08:00She was never a school teacher. She worked in fina...She was never a school teacher. She worked in finance. misspoppypantshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13209950903652118138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-41989199283426199602012-12-17T21:18:18.292-08:002012-12-17T21:18:18.292-08:00She was never a school teacher. She worked in fina...She was never a school teacher. She worked in finance. misspoppypantshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13209950903652118138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-67084710509326588752012-12-17T20:58:54.044-08:002012-12-17T20:58:54.044-08:00Connecticut Post
The Newtown Post Office has creat...Connecticut Post<br />The Newtown Post Office has created a postal box for people to send care packages, condolences and letters.<br /><br />That address is:<br />Messages of Condolence for Newtown<br />P.O. Box 3700<br />Newtown, Connecticut 06470katsm0711https://www.blogger.com/profile/12705636746415562153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-70148228555674406602012-12-17T20:22:28.016-08:002012-12-17T20:22:28.016-08:00Sadly, I had a friend call me this morning crying ...Sadly, I had a friend call me this morning crying hysterically crying. She saw her own son in the description of the shooter. He has many similar traits, doesn't socialize, and sits in his room playing violent video games. Also 20 years old. She has taken him to many doctors and therapists over the years and no one has ever been able to diagnose his condition, but he is on many, many anti-depressants that seem to help him. Even sadder, I immediately thought of him after the shootings were reported.lutefiskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15353788038996844317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-45844463976228644682012-12-17T20:06:51.092-08:002012-12-17T20:06:51.092-08:00Asperger's is a neurological disorder. It is ...Asperger's is a neurological disorder. It is not a mental illness. The shooter was mentally ill, but Asperger's was not the cause of this. Here is a list of people most likely who had Asperger's:<br />Albert Einstein <br />Isaac Newton <br />Benjamin Franklin <br />Napoleon Bonaparte <br />George Washington <br />John Quincy Adams <br />Andrew Jackson <br />Andrew Johnson <br />Abraham Lincoln <br />James Garfield <br />Teddy Roosevelt <br />William Taft <br />Louis IV <br />Catherine the Great <br />Cleopatra <br />Peter the Great <br />Wilhem II <br />Alexander the Great <br />Leonardo da Vinci <br />Vincent van Gogh <br />Beethoven <br />Elvis <br />Jeremy Bentham <br />Socrates <br />Henry Ford <br />Bill Gates <br />Tom Hanks <br />Marilyn Monroe <br />Clark Gable <br />Dan Ackroyd <br />Craig Nicholls. <br />Daryl Hannah <br />Virginia Woolf <br />Shakespeare <br />Goethe <br />Isaac Asimov <br />Ernest Vincent Wright <br />Charles Dickinsonlutefiskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15353788038996844317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-36763436322423677092012-12-17T18:46:56.426-08:002012-12-17T18:46:56.426-08:00OMG. Did you know that white people have bigger br...OMG. Did you know that white people have bigger brains than black people and that Jews run all the corporations? A bigot is a bigot is a bigot.<br /><br />Aspergers and violence do NOT go hand in hand. People with Aspergers or who are on the Autism Spectrum may or may not lack compassion and empathy, depending on the person but that doesn't mean they KILL PEOPLE. Shit - stop posting bullshit.<br /><br />And you who wrote "normal" in quotation marks - once you use those 12 effing times, it means you don't believe they belong there. You really do think some people are normal and some are not.<br /><br />Those of you who think Aspergers or Autism had anything to do with the attack are bigots. True story.Einstein DeGenereshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08648357282016693748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-22882938321967760942012-12-17T18:09:03.151-08:002012-12-17T18:09:03.151-08:00And now after reading the link, which was like rea...And now after reading the link, which was like reading my own freaking memories, I need to add on:<br /><br />Yes, it's extremely difficult and taxing. Watching (in my case) small children suffer through all kinds of problems, some from mental illness and some borne of family problems, doesn't get easier and people at our facility either crap out in six months or stay until they retire. But watching them get excited for birthdays or a new bike or their Halloween costume makes it all worth it. At the end of the day, they're still kids who need a hug and a story to get them to sleep at the end of the day. Princess ButterKwuphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13887753650378753393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-47146998493916411852012-12-17T17:25:32.662-08:002012-12-17T17:25:32.662-08:00Thanks for the kind words and the link @ Sunny! Thanks for the kind words and the link @ Sunny! Princess ButterKwuphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13887753650378753393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-6721470025233651032012-12-17T16:18:17.677-08:002012-12-17T16:18:17.677-08:00@Butterkwup
First of all, thank you for what you ...@Butterkwup<br /><br />First of all, thank you for what you do. When I was younger, I wanted to be a counselor specializing in abused children, but I learned early on I wasn't strong enough for it. You are a light in this world, and in my humble opinion, a warrior<br /><br />Your situation reminded me of an article that Frufa linked to. It can be tough to read, but helped me to feel hopeful toward the end<br /><br />http://www.chicagonow.com/moms-who-drink-and-swear/2012/12/let-there-be-light-and-helpers/Sunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10535192022494512507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-71307865854361836992012-12-17T15:41:26.666-08:002012-12-17T15:41:26.666-08:00@Traceynator
Thank you! My 4 year old daughter is...@Traceynator<br /><br />Thank you! My 4 year old daughter is aspergers and it scares me that people are putting ASD kids into one single box and trying to say they are all capable of what he did :(( My little girl is beautiful and a loving little soul and she doesn't deserve to grow up with people holding that opinion of her.Not all autistic people are the same just like all neuro typical people are not the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-87066168486215126782012-12-17T14:55:51.952-08:002012-12-17T14:55:51.952-08:00@Tracynator: Thank you!! @Tracynator: Thank you!! Meanie Rhysiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17637425796583388877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-71765030791705090082012-12-17T14:54:33.966-08:002012-12-17T14:54:33.966-08:00My 15 year old son has Asperger's. He does not...My 15 year old son has Asperger's. He does not lack compassion or empathy. He does not have a mental illness. He is not capable of committing murder. The ignorance shown by some of the commenters in this thread is appalling. Worse is the obvious agenda by a certain commenter to try to make the murder of 20 beautiful children a slam against ASD. People on the spectrum are very complicated. There are many comorbid conditions that develop over time like depression, OCD, ADHD, anxiety disorders, the list goes on. Each individual on the Autism Spectrum is very, very different as I have learned. Don't get your information from some idiot commenter off the internet or a celebrity with a book to peddle. Please do your own research with an open heart and an open mind. My son should be given a chance.tracynatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08136516188853741573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-49411756019096095862012-12-17T14:46:52.491-08:002012-12-17T14:46:52.491-08:00My 15 year old son has Asperger's. He does not...My 15 year old son has Asperger's. He does not lack compassion or empathy. He does not have a mental illness. He is not capable of committing murder. The ignorance shown by some of the commenters in this thread is appalling. Worse is the obvious agenda by a certain commenter to try to make the murder of 20 beautiful children a slam against ASD. People on the spectrum are very complicated. There are many comorbid conditions that develop over time like depression, OCD, ADHD, anxiety disorders, the list goes on. Each individual on the Autism Spectrum is very, very different as I have learned. Don't get your information from some idiot commenter off the internet or a celebrity with a book to peddle. Please do your own research with an open heart and an open mind. My son should be given a chance.tracynatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08136516188853741573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-36902994313673163762012-12-17T13:25:29.564-08:002012-12-17T13:25:29.564-08:00Those poor babies. Lots of questionable stuff in ...Those poor babies. Lots of questionable stuff in comments here. Do your own research. Verify and re-verify until you understand and check your sources. There are reputable sources ready to confirm or deny any thoughts you may have on mental illness and it's consequences.<br /><br />I think it would help if people were better informed. The presentation of mental illness as personality diversity needs to stop. Mainstreaming those who need special attention is not working. And, as always, some personal responsibility would also help. Other countries arm their teachers so this doesn't happen. Stop preventing people from protecting themselves. We have air Marshall's on planes now.__-__=__https://www.blogger.com/profile/06294916758950711469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-19699880905933623002012-12-17T12:27:09.960-08:002012-12-17T12:27:09.960-08:00Thank you! Now I don't have to post the same t...Thank you! Now I don't have to post the same thing!!CrazyCatLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06756078800510742430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-54089110126119982432012-12-17T12:24:44.478-08:002012-12-17T12:24:44.478-08:00Excellent article and shows just how frustrating i...Excellent article and shows just how frustrating it is to get help. Mental illness has GOT to get more attention and people need to know where to go for help. I'm so sick of mental illness being a deep dark secret. Its OK yo be an addict, we'll get you help, it have an eating disorder, but having bipolar or schizophrenia....well we just won't talk about it. AND, if you do get help the meds are outrageous! If I didn't have personal insurance, I'd be paying $1000+ out of pocket for my bipolar meds. Ridiculous.CrazyCatLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06756078800510742430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-45054083928765603842012-12-17T12:21:29.329-08:002012-12-17T12:21:29.329-08:00Praying and hoping that some peace will settle on ...Praying and hoping that some peace will settle on this poor stricken community. <br /><br />People express their anger and concern in different ways and at different times. <br /><br />People who are trying to analyze what happened are just trying to help so that it doesn't keep happening. That is no more or less valid than anyone else's feelings. <br /><br />Sorry for not passing by all you experts first, but I have read that the mother collected guns, and that she had shown a visiting neighbour an automatic weapon that she had purchased.<br /><br />And don't start squawking that I'm anti-gun. I have them myself - I do target shooting from time to time. <br /><br />My point is only that if parents paid more attention to what their kids were doing, it would probably short-circuit a lot of shootings. Eeekalicioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03168483977906388113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-53132713576239933932012-12-17T12:18:57.829-08:002012-12-17T12:18:57.829-08:00First...mental illness and autism do not go hand i...First...mental illness and autism do not go hand in hand. Many people with the mental illnesses everyone is aware if (schizophrenia, bi-polar, etc) do not show signs/symptoms until their early 20s. Very rare for a child to show signs, but it can happen and these kids are usually home schooled or are in mental facilities. <br /><br />Second...autism has a wide spectrum on which to gauge kids. Aspergers (which is believed to be what Lanza had) is one of the most mild forms. Kids are very intelligent but lack "social skills"...I.e. its not OK to tell a stranger she's fat. The asperger child is making a legitimate observation but doesn't understand the social politeness to not say it out loud.<br /><br />Lastly, I think kids can be very amazing with their ability to accept people. If they decide to be afraid of mental/behavior illnesses, its because they learned it from a parent.CrazyCatLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06756078800510742430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-70108267110293508702012-12-17T11:07:21.246-08:002012-12-17T11:07:21.246-08:00@Momster, that's a terrible story, but I'm...@Momster, that's a terrible story, but I'm glad everyone is OK. There is a happy ending to this one, so to speak. The people he told did the right thing, I hope they are recognized for it! <br />I, for one, am tired of hearing everyone blame everyone else for all of this. 20 years ago, we'd have been blaming the Dad for leaving the Mom or for something equally as 'blameless'. I'm sad for the families and communities this tragedy touched, and for the loss of innocence. I'm tired of hearing people guess, or state as fact, so much incorrect information. I feel for the brother, Ryan, who spent Friday telling the world it wasn't him. Someone even posted the link to his FB page on here. Sad for everyone involved. If we, as parents, did our part (yes, I'm a parent, too), eyes and ears open, communicate with our children, KNOW what's going on with them, we can prevent, hopefully, this from happening again. Or at least to the magnitude of this tragedy.<br />God bless those babies, and their protectors.Silly Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497892642422020274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-61022577443286923762012-12-17T10:59:53.030-08:002012-12-17T10:59:53.030-08:00Momster, how scary for your family! I am proud of ...Momster, how scary for your family! I am proud of the person who spoke up and averted another crisis. EGBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17826088334181720450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-15909504665851849672012-12-17T10:50:14.164-08:002012-12-17T10:50:14.164-08:00(I had originally posted this at the very end of t...(I had originally posted this at the very end of the Sandy Hook thread on Saturday, but I think few of ya'll have seen it)<br /><br />Before the Sandy Hook tragedy happened, early Friday morning an 18-year old man was arrested in my town, on charges that he was planning to barricade students in the high school auditorium, chain the doors shut, and shoot everyone. Luckily he told some friends, who reported it to police, and he's being held on $1 million bond.<br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/15/sammie-eaglebear-chavez_n_2307864.html<br /><br />This was my youngest son's high school, he's a senior. . .Turns out the guy had acquired a gun and was doing research on the Columbine incident.<br /><br />I spent Friday night with a stomach virus, hugging the porcelain god so to speak (lol) and all I could picture was my kid in that auditorium, or the tragedy in Connecticut. <br /><br />God bless the children, and the heroic adults that tried to save them. And thank you, thank you to the teenagers who reported Chavez to local police.<br /><br />Momsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10726577599614323172noreply@blogger.com