Comments on Crazy Days and Nights: I Don't Know What To Say

sometimes in these situations (small island commun...

2009-01-06T20:33:00.000-08:00

sometimes in these situations (small island community, hot humid weather), the funeral director (read mortician) does double duty as the coroner or vice versa.

becki, i wasn't criticizing your snark, but enty's...

2009-01-06T07:26:00.000-08:00

becki, i wasn't criticizing your snark, but enty's. i'm just as pissed off as you are that scientology is such a sham, started by a sci-fi writer, and yet they're a tax exempt organization. what a joke.

i can see feeling relief when a parent goes - not only because it's so hard seeing them suffer, but because we've seen them live good long lives. i felt relief seeing my mother die after a long hard battle with breast cancer. i just don't think the same is true when you bury a child.

captivagirl, check out the kissy-face pic of the caretaker in this article (if you're still reading):

http://gawker.com/5124205/jett-travoltas-fishy-cause-of-death?skyline=true&s=x

Yes, if Scientology wasn't part of this whole stor...

2009-01-06T06:19:00.000-08:00

Yes, if Scientology wasn't part of this whole story my snark wouldn't be there. Don't know why that religion invented in the 1950's by a science fiction writer rubs me the wrong way.
I cared for an elderly parent for 6years until her death at 84.
With dementia and incontinence she was like a large child, in decline.When she died I felt relief
and a great sense of guilt for all the caregiving I didn't have to do anymore. If they had 24/7 nanny care on this child for a longtime
and it's not required anymore that's quite a difference.

nomd, there probably wasn't any snark. i'm making...

2009-01-05T20:37:00.000-08:00

nomd, there probably wasn't any snark. i'm making excuses i shouldn't be making. the truth is, the comment was kicking two people when they're down and i found it low class.

Thanks for the response Molly. Didn't pick up on ...

2009-01-05T20:21:00.000-08:00

Thanks for the response Molly. Didn't pick up on the snark this time.

nomd, i don't get the comments enty made either, b...

2009-01-05T18:57:00.000-08:00

nomd, i don't get the comments enty made either, but that could have just been snark. i have a lot more respect for celebrity parents who protect their kids than the ones who parade them out in front of the world.

becki, according to their lawyer, jett was on anti-seizure meds and they helped reduce the number of seizures he was having. then the meds stopped working and there were signs of some liver damage, and they stopped the meds.

i'm not sure they'd make that up given how all over their shit scientologists would be.

i disagree with you when you say their day to day lives have just gotten easier. their lives have changed for the worst and will never be the same. there will always be a hole there, in their lives and in their hearts. their marriage, sham or not, just entered the high risk zone. many couples cannot withstand the pain of losing a child and end up divorced. i don't think there's going to be much relief for any of them.

snowowl, i don't think the argument is that scientologists don't allow meds, it's that they don't allow meds for certain things because they don't recognize psychological orders exist. they wouldn't recognize autism. if seizures were due to autism, meds for seizures and the autism might be denied. epilepsy isn't a psychological condition, so meds would be allowed.

I am shocked that people assume that Scientologist...

2009-01-05T18:54:00.001-08:00

I am shocked that people assume that Scientologists don't allow any medication. I am the mother of an epileptic and in our support group there are some parents that are Scientologists and their children are on medication.
Unfortunately seizure meds don't always work. At this time my sons seizures don't break through but if you could see his EEG's they would scare the hell out of you as he is constantly having them. He has had seizures since birth and has had so many changes in medicines and has to go through constant blood tests and adjustments as they lose effectiveness over time. We also know that they have some severe side effects and also that they can do more harm than good. My son has considered going off of them as they do cause him problems but at the same time he hates the thought of going back to having anywhere between 3-9 major seizures a week and then there are the "mild" ones daily.
My heart breaks for this family as I can't even begin to imagine what they are going through.

When I was young, my mom fainted frequently. She'd...

2009-01-05T18:54:00.000-08:00

When I was young, my mom fainted frequently. She'd faint in the bathroom, and there would be a big crash, so we'd find her within a minute of her fainting.

If the townhouse was 1,000 sq. ft., and Jett's "nanny" was nearby, I don't see how they wouldn't have found Jett right away.

Maybe the Travolta's hoped if they didn't go thru ...

2009-01-05T18:45:00.000-08:00

Maybe the Travolta's hoped if they didn't go thru the physician suggested treatments for autism and instead used the scientology mumbo jumbo it would help him or he would just 'grow out of it'.Instead it looked like he grew into a very large 16 year old with mobility problems.Why do families spend so much time money energy sweat and tears trying to bring their autistic children through that small window? To be able to communicate and interact in society? When you live in a gated community, sleep Elvis hours and fly privately from your driveway to each destination all that societal interaction might not seem so important for Jett.
Sad to say, day to day life just got so much easier for their remaining family. And I'm sure the sense of relief is killing them.

Molly I've already seen those photos and in additi...

2009-01-05T18:26:00.000-08:00

Molly I've already seen those photos and in addition I remember years ago someone complained that they didn't want to be around John's kids because he spoiled them and didn't want anyone to chastise them.

That's why I don't understand the comments from Enty about them being cold.

I believe they protected both of their children from the public and if we didn't see Jett it was for his protection not out of embarrassment.

I could be wrong because I don't follow John and Kelly that closely but that's how I see it.

nomd, if you really want to feel bad, check out th...

2009-01-05T18:11:00.000-08:00

nomd, if you really want to feel bad, check out these photo's. i don't know how anyone can say he was being hidden or that they shoved him in a corner. it looks like he was loved very much by his parents.

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE50145920090105?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews&rpc=22&sp=true

heartbreaking doesn't being to describe what it must be like to lose a child.

we know a 20 year old who just od'd on drugs and died. what a nightmare. these families will never be the same.

Jax you're right. I just read it again, it does s...

2009-01-05T17:48:00.000-08:00

Jax you're right. I just read it again, it does seem odd that someone from the funeral home would comment about the lack of head trauma unless they were truly puzzled by the conflicting statements.

The child is being cremated.

I feel so bad for Jett. Apparently he was not capable of speaking and was very sensitive to being touched.

I knew that he was a special needs child, just not to that degree.

As I said before my condolences to the Travolta family.

R.I.P. Jett

"How is it any of our business?" - Thank you, Enty...

2009-01-05T17:25:00.000-08:00

"How is it any of our business?" - Thank you, Enty. It is baffling to me how people can be so callous, unsympathetic and detached from emotion as to say such horrible things about a family in grief. Whatever is going on with them right now IS none of our business. It's one thing to poke fun of John's hair but it's completely inhumane to question their lives during such a terrible time simply because their religion does not align with someone else's. I have never seen such a display of savagery in the form of words in my life - in the name of "Jesus"! Pfftt!!!

Not on my dollar, about the lack of head trauma th...

2009-01-05T16:39:00.000-08:00

Not on my dollar, about the lack of head trauma that was from the funeral home, not the coroner.
i don't know why a funeral director is commenting on the condition of a body..weird.

It is very sad. He looked like a lovely child .. h...

2009-01-05T16:36:00.000-08:00

It is very sad. He looked like a lovely child .. he seemed very shy to me on the few occasions I saw pictures of him. My question in all of this is what will happen between John and CoS. He will either descend further into it and that will be the last we see of him or - I think perhaps more likely - he will blame CoS for the death of his son.

There have been numerous reports in the media that apparently this child did have a serious seizure disorder. He had two helpers with him pretty much 24/7/365. We all know what CoS's views are on meds. Now the child has died of a seizure he may well have not had - or not had to the severity that killed him - if not for the tenets of CoS.

If I were placing my belief in a system that told me not to medicate my child because it would cure him with these detoxes and so forth .. I would be mad as hell and looking for pay back in a big way from those who lied to me. Yes .. even regardless of what ever it was that they were holding against me.

As a grieving parent .. you have the world's sympathy to come out or whatever it is those people hold against him to keep him there. I hope he can break free and find one small bright spot in what can only be described as every parents nightmare.

OMG, that made me cry. I don't fault the EMT. He...

2009-01-05T16:16:00.000-08:00

OMG, that made me cry. I don't fault the EMT. He was sincerely trying to tell his version, and I don't believe he is looking for fame. Jesus, this is incredibly sad.

According to E online the autopsy report is in and...

2009-01-05T15:09:00.000-08:00

According to E online the autopsy report is in and Jett's death was caused by a seizure. They also said that there was no indication of head trauma which was mentioned by the EMT and the Travolta family.

Just to clear two things up:- Autism and Kawasaki´...

2009-01-05T14:38:00.000-08:00

Just to clear two things up:

- Autism and Kawasaki´s are not mutually exclusive diseases, having one doesn´t automatically prevent you from having the other.

- Autism is a clinical diagnosis, and although there are neurological theories behind it, you can´t confirm it on an autopsy. Jett might have been autistic, but there´s never going to be any confirmation of that unless one of his parents/immediate family members decides to share that.

Having said that, my thoughts are with the parents. It´s a terrible thing to bury a child.

if scientology says there's no such thing as autis...

2009-01-05T13:44:00.000-08:00

if scientology says there's no such thing as autism, then i have no problem at all believing he wasn't getting therapy for it. IF he was autistic. clearly, there was something more wrong with him than kawasaki disease (if he even had that).
of course it's a tragedy for them that their son died. no question there. but before this is over,i suspect scientology WILL be implicated here.
autism does not have a magic cure, nor is it a discrete condition. it is a SPECTRUM disorder. there are varying degrees of severity.

I don't for one second believe that Kelly Preston ...

2009-01-05T12:58:00.000-08:00

I don't for one second believe that Kelly Preston wouldn't do everything in her power to help her child be as healthy and safe as possible, despite what Scientology or anyone else might say.

RIP Jett!I do not think we will ever know what rea...

2009-01-05T12:57:00.000-08:00

RIP Jett!

I do not think we will ever know what really happened here and yes I think the scientologists are experts at covering up and really good at distractions.

Also, I read Jenny McCarthys book, the one before this last one and she mentions a famous actress calling her up and telling her that there is a small window in the childs mind to get through the autism and cure it....my big question is that if this was really true why the secrecy and why not share your story especially if it can help other people?

Am getting really cynical of the celebrity circles and their lifecycles and yes even their denial-ability.

I feel for the Travolta's, as they have lost a chi...

2009-01-05T12:19:00.000-08:00

I feel for the Travolta's, as they have lost a child, but I do not think that the truth will come out anytime soon. Scientologists surround themselves with other Scientologists and they will be closing ranks. They also intimidate through lawsuits and have enough money to throw around to pay people to keep their mouths shut.

Isn't Jett's nanny the guy that was photographed k...

2009-01-05T12:10:00.000-08:00

Isn't Jett's nanny the guy that was photographed kissing John(on the lips)a few years ago? Remember, on the stairs by the plane?

Anyway, i'm sad for them. They had a special needs child and I'm sure they tried to give him the best care.

It's very sad and I feel much compassion for John,...

2009-01-05T12:02:00.000-08:00

It's very sad and I feel much compassion for John, Kelly and their extended family.

I am not a heartless person but, there is totally something wrong here. Maybe not wrong in a criminal sense but wrong just the same.

I doubt we'll ever know for sure. The autopsy won't be able to say if Jett was autistic, but it can rule out Kawasaki.

I agree with jax and merrick. Something feels a li...

2009-01-05T11:58:00.000-08:00

I agree with jax and merrick. Something feels a little off. Lainey has her own little theory too, though she doesn't go into details.

As a mother of two i can't even begin to imagine what it would be like if...... it's just too tragic and sad. I don't care if John was screwing the nanny, he did seem to really love his boy. My heart goes out to them, i wouldn't wish this on anyone.