Comments on Crazy Days and Nights: Michael Jackson Not The Father Of His Kids? Shocke...

As a survivor of family physical abuse, (of all fo...

2009-07-08T00:23:45.491-07:00

As a survivor of family physical abuse, (of all forms, physical beatings to the extreme, emotional, and sexual abuse, again to the extreme), some of the signs and things said by Michael and others in his family subtly lead me to ask why no one has questioned that Michaels father or other male relatives may have sexually abused him as a small child...the signs are all there, the vomitting on seeing them, this doesnt usually occur from beating but more often is accompanied by sexual abuse sufferers, the mental regression to an age of less pain, the underlying hidden sexual rage dispalyed in some videos combined with the extreme need to be & feel loved...these are all severe reactions to sexual abuse. The need to associate with fantasy figures who cant be hurt in this way, and constant feelings of loneliness because the victim doesnt feel they CAN talk to anyone, not really. Why is no one seeing the deeper signs of abuse but letting it go at "he got a whipping"??

There are some MEN who are attracted to women but ...

2009-07-03T00:44:25.030-07:00

There are some MEN who are attracted to women but also attracted to little boys. Does that make them heterosexual or homosexual? No matter what, that little boy attraction makes them pedophiles.

The homophobia comes in because calling someone a homosexual pedophiliac mixes up two very different aspects of sexuality. The homosexual urge is directed at ADULTS of the same sex. Pedophilia is directed at children. No one calls people "heterosexual pedophiliac,' because we unconsciously think of heterosexual as normal. We add homosexual to just make the pediophilia all the more horrific.

I don't know if this makes sense, but it's best just to keep the two seperate. If someone's a pedophiliac, that's what they are, whether their victims are of the same or opposite genders from themselves. If someone is homosexual, s/he is not interested in children, only adults of the same sex.

blankprincess, how is saying that MJ was a "homose...

2009-07-01T09:19:08.591-07:00

blankprincess, how is saying that MJ was a "homosexual (or same sex)pedophile (one who preys on children)" a homophobic statement?

If you prefer sex with your same gender, then you are homosexual. If a man prefers sex with little girls, he is a heterosexual who is perverted and gets turned on by little girls rather than women.

I don't get how you see discrimination and homophobia in that.

Homosexuality is an attraction to MEN. Michael cle...

2009-07-01T09:16:27.923-07:00

Homosexuality is an attraction to MEN. Michael clearly was not attracted to men. Pedophilia is a completely different animal. Whether pedophiles go after male or female children, it has nothing to do with heterosexuality or homosexuality. It is pedophilia, and nothing else.

I though Lisa Marie said that they never had sex?

how is sue ellen a homophobic moron..... When MJ ...

2009-07-01T09:11:46.195-07:00

how is sue ellen a homophobic moron.....

When MJ molestated does boys....he is a pedophile and the fact that he was interested in MALES...makes him homosexual.

Seriously get over yourself.

Also, I don't know why anyone isn't suprised that the children aren't his...seriously they look white...not mixed at all.

I can't help but feel sorry for the kids cause thi...

2009-06-30T21:25:34.313-07:00

I can't help but feel sorry for the kids cause this circus is going to be in town for a while - no matter who they are - and for MJ, now that I am seeing just how f'ing screwed up he was.

Sue Ellen Mishkey said... So he's a homosexual p...

2009-06-30T19:56:14.701-07:00

Sue Ellen Mishkey said...

So he's a homosexual pedophile. Case closed.

10:39 AM

And you're a homophobic moron. Case closed.

Wow, the daughter (Paris) has the same ears as the...

2009-06-30T19:03:13.035-07:00

Wow, the daughter (Paris) has the same ears as the dermatologist. Not that MJ spoke the truth about this matter very much, but he did say Debbie's kids were made the old-fashioned way. That might have been true, if was the derm and Debbie doing the baby-making.

Coming soon, this guy and Corey Feldmann on Maury ...

2009-06-30T18:02:14.988-07:00

Coming soon, this guy and Corey Feldmann on Maury arguing about who is the father.

I will continue to believe they are Macaulay Culkins kids until I see hard proof of otherwise.

And I don't think Michael Jackson has not had sex...he's definitely had sex with a woman. Did anyone else see the Oprah episode with Lisa Marie? Who would admit that they had sex with Michael Jackson unless they actual did...she could have easily said she didn't want to talk about that aspect of their relationship, but she didn't...

I'm so glad that this freak is dead.

2009-06-30T17:14:22.450-07:00

I'm so glad that this freak is dead.

Family secrets drive me crazy. Humans and the huma...

2009-06-30T17:01:54.891-07:00

Family secrets drive me crazy. Humans and the human experience are not unique. There are more than 6,000,000,000 of us currently alive.

Boiled down, as I see it: MJ was abused and never recovered from the trauma. MJ had a complicated - possibly perverted - view of love and sexuality. He wanted the family and emotional security he didn't have and had the means to get it. Whatever it took.

And Gloria Allred was just interviewed by Kitty Pilgrim regarding guardianship of the children and The Will. I thought Gloria contributed a reasonable discussion of the law and possible outcomes. Nice change from her standard practice of expressing personal outrage at the highest decibels. Is it too much to hope that Nancy Grace was watching?

The entire Jackson family was in denial about anyt...

2009-06-30T15:46:44.249-07:00

The entire Jackson family was in denial about anything Michael did in his private life. Had they doubted his word he would have cut off the flow of money--and well you just can't have family members being broke and bitter. They could spill family secrets in a book or two.

he was a decent parent. he had nannies, but was a...

2009-06-30T15:06:59.407-07:00

he was a decent parent. he had nannies, but was also an active parent in his kids' lives. that's more than a lot of celebrity and uber rich kids get.

and so he wasn't the bio dad... i don't even think they guy had baby making juice in him by that point. (but that's because i believe he was castrated to save his voice, ha.) he's still their dad.

as to that jungle kid up there... they aren't saying "a sexual", they're saying "asexual". google is yer friend.

i really don't think debbie rowe is out for the kids. if anything it's a pay day. and i think blanket's bio mom is totally irrevelent to the whole conversation. if sjp and matthew die, do the twins go their surrogate, or their family? really, it's a non issue, and is only being questioned by the media, not anyone actually involved.

i think the reason i never figured out whether he ...

2009-06-30T15:03:16.929-07:00

i think the reason i never figured out whether he molested kids is because the PARENTS of those kids clearly pimped out their own children for money---who the fuck allows their son to sleep in the same bed with a 40 year old man?? OH, i know! they do if he has millions and they can get their mitts on some of it.

exactly! i never said i thougth he was 100% innocent but i also read that the psych evaluation came back that HE IS NOT CONSIDERED A PEDOPHILE OR SEXUAL PREDATOR but HAD THE EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT OF A 10 YEAR OLD BOY.

good enough for me...
becasue im sure we all know better than a court appointed psychiatrist from all that top secret info we get from Access Hollywood...lol.

Oh come on MommaBear. He was married to Debbie Row...

2009-06-30T14:49:40.107-07:00

Oh come on MommaBear. He was married to Debbie Rowe. She had the children within that marriage. Isn't he on the birth certificate? That's all it takes--being on the birth certificate.

And for pity's sake, it's not like he was the worst parent ever. There's no indication that he was anything but loving to those kids.

i found out last night that debbie rowe lives not ...

2009-06-30T14:25:18.259-07:00

i found out last night that debbie rowe lives not eight miles from me, out here in the desert. apparently over the weekend, the entire town was in an uproar.
great. just great.

as weird as this story is, it will just keep getti...

2009-06-30T14:15:13.650-07:00

as weird as this story is, it will just keep getting even stranger in the next few months.

that's absolutely not true. people who have babie...

2009-06-30T13:07:05.860-07:00

that's absolutely not true. people who have babies through in vitro---even with none of their own genetic material---are the parents of those children. this is no different.

i guarantee you if a couple was killed in an accident and their child---conceived with donor egg and sperm---survived them, they would remain within the family BY LAW.

Ok, so if they aren't his kids then he was never e...

2009-06-30T12:54:49.844-07:00

Ok, so if they aren't his kids then he was never entitled to keep them. More importantly, the Jackson clan has no claim to them nor do these kids have any claim to the estate.

Every person involved in helping him obtain these kids, from the surrogates all the way through to the attorneys should be charged and convicted of Human Trafficking for the purposes of child exploitation. It is shameful that this type of crime could be perpetuated so publicly. Where is Gloria Aldrich to step in an file some sort of independent guardianship petition with the courts? This is just the sort of case she'd be interested in. I can't personally stand her, but I think she'd at least cut through all the Jackson bullshit, and look out for the kids.

i think the reason i never figured out whether he ...

2009-06-30T12:27:58.831-07:00

And as for giving him a break and letting him be.....

2009-06-30T12:27:45.547-07:00

And as for giving him a break and letting him be... fuck no. If I have to hear about him everywhere i go you better be damned certain i'm gonna put my 2 cents in as well. I have to hear about how he was everyone's fucking hero and to me that's sick.

"I think I read that in the Star. They've been pre...

2009-06-30T12:24:45.657-07:00

"I think I read that in the Star. They've been pretty accurate so far."

I hope you're being sarcastic.

A sexual? Yeah...could be. If that's what you call it when someone has never had consentual sex with an adult, then a sexual it is.

I was also watching the documentary last night and it's so bizarre how much MJ lied. The funniest part is when he addresses how God and puberty are to blame for his drastic change of appearance as he aged, and how blanket's mother is black and the reason blanket is so fair is because they're called people of color because they come in all different colors. Ummmmmmmm.. if blanket's mom is black then blanket should be black.

If he can lie about so much why do people even doubt that he would lie about touching children??

Oh, btw, he also says it was his own sperm used to make all 3 children. Un-hunh.

oh what a tangled web we weave...

2009-06-30T12:20:45.410-07:00

oh what a tangled web we weave...

Sue Ellen Mishkey said... I think if you're a man...

2009-06-30T12:18:38.003-07:00

Sue Ellen Mishkey said...
I think if you're a man that's into boys, you're gay.

no, you're a fucking pedophile, two very different things.

Yesterday I saw pics of MJ with his kids and they ...

2009-06-30T12:15:45.807-07:00

Yesterday I saw pics of MJ with his kids and they were "normal" pics such as birthday parties, etc, and a lot of the pics showed other children in them.

This, strangely, brought me some relief that the kids seemed to have been raised somewhat normally.