tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post6751065546089897654..comments2008-08-21T06:51:29.684-07:00ent lawyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08658046190988387228noreply@blogger.comBlogger71125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-29288249514721271682008-08-21T06:51:00.000-07:002008-08-21T06:51:00.000-07:00Let's not forget about Alicia Keys lovely comment:<BR/>Alicia Keys claims that gangsta rap was actually created by the US Government. Asked why the government would do that, she replied it was designed to “convince black people to kill each other”Mrs. Howellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10102739871834878605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-21443408634197614952008-08-20T02:38:00.000-07:002008-08-20T02:38:00.000-07:00Kayne doesn't care for black people. <BR/><BR/>Also, what's with the language they use on the blog, do you need a secret key to read it?<BR/><BR/>[i]this chick is so beautiful, i didn't even relize it...i would definitely eat her on the grass in the sunlight. she's devil plated,like a breathe of fresh white girl air...yea i said it ha. and im gonna still promote mayte garcia weather she makes the cut or not. kanye nothing to do with this but you should hop on the plies song (plz excuse my hands)make a remix or something. it sounds like something you'd hop on.[/i]Podbaydoorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09319493438960750796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-18862559421020030932008-08-19T18:11:00.000-07:002008-08-19T18:11:00.000-07:00Good points, bodashush! I think the reason why people are venting is because everyone knows racism is WRONG!! And that we want to live in a better world. <BR/><BR/>Really, isn't that what this is all about? Readers expressing anguish, hurt, and anger over this?<BR/><BR/>And we all want to heal. <BR/><BR/>The most famous quote is still most relevant all these years later-- can't we all just get along??Gracehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16126877515887779460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-42673166738741666582008-08-19T18:01:00.000-07:002008-08-19T18:01:00.000-07:00Well I have to echo Alison's sentiments because these comments are just sad.  You know black people are always told that they use racism as an excuse to dislike white people, but by reading some of these comments, it seems that white people are as hung up about race as you accuse black people  of being.  I guess I don't understand taking a comment that is silly and using it as a rant against black people.  It seems that in your haste to portray Kanye as a racist and Whites as victims of racism, some of you have exposed yourselves to  be anything but tolerant.bodashushhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13858007842117178087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-74732596962034710792008-08-19T17:51:00.000-07:002008-08-19T17:51:00.000-07:00I watched the race last weekend. It was boring as hell. Lots of cars making a continuous left-hand turn. Woo woobrendalove@gmail.comhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00871065462462122312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-27410148681547006492008-08-19T16:29:00.000-07:002008-08-19T16:29:00.000-07:00Badfish, I want to apologize for singling you out. Your story just stood out to me after reading through all the comments. I should not have implied or assumed from your comment about being a minority in a black church that you lacked compassion for others who have to deal with racism.<BR/><BR/>You're right that it goes in both directions. <BR/><BR/>I realize most people are just venting because it's a terrible thing to experience racism. Unfortunately, almost all regardless of which race share those kinds of experiences.Allisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00416904479398452928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-28074328495910147992008-08-19T16:07:00.001-07:002008-08-19T16:07:00.001-07:00Ooh -- I wanted to add one more thing -- men and Woody Allen are obsessed with ScarJo -- duh. The New Yorker has a review of Vicky Cristina Barcelona and here's what was said:<BR/><BR/>"Scarlett Johansson, who is still only twenty-three, has appeared in an amazing number of movies. There’s no mystery why: she’s charming and also pliant and openly sexual in a way that obviously pleases male directors. <BR/><BR/>She’s at a stage in which her sensuality is more developed than anything else in her personality, but that configuration works for her this time. Going to bed with an attractive man is not going to tell Cristina all that she needs to know about herself. Allen has successfully captured a spirit of restless indeterminacy."Gracehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16126877515887779460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-19620854701414417872008-08-19T16:07:00.000-07:002008-08-19T16:07:00.000-07:00My two cents...<BR/><BR/>I'm white; I'm not offended by his "my fav white girl" comment.<BR/><BR/>I'm a lesbian; I think it's hilarious to name check a Klondike so you can rhyme it with "blond dyke."<BR/><BR/>So, that's MY perspective. The key, as some of you have pointed out, is not to think it's the only perspective. <BR/><BR/>To listen in a discerning yet non-judgmental way is exhausting. <BR/>Which may explain why we all prefer the celeb gossip website over SeriousNewsandIssues.comSarahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12644165583932494818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-44323923179959987482008-08-19T16:03:00.000-07:002008-08-19T16:03:00.000-07:00I think I'm making shrimp tonight -- I usually like it with linguine but I don't think I have any. Maybe just some rice served with green beans. Got the green beans for .69 cents a pound!<BR/><BR/>Hey -- can't blame Kanye for liking ScarJo -- most men do...Gracehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16126877515887779460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-77468519618882284992008-08-19T15:58:00.000-07:002008-08-19T15:58:00.000-07:00Hugs back to all!<BR/><BR/>Yeah, it's funny how what Kanye said wasn't really all that bad but he's such an arrogant pussy personality-wise that we jumped him.<BR/><BR/>Gotta say, he does break down some barriers like his Daft Punk affinity, etc. <BR/><BR/>Even tho he's a dick, his (as Ent surmises, "publicist-written") blog did start a lil' ol' CDAN tempest. <BR/><BR/>And it's a good thing we talk about it openly. Blogs are good for that: safely-anonymous venting that can OPEN EYES. <BR/><BR/>I know I'm ignorant. No one recognizes anyone else's hurt. We are all caught up in our own thang. <BR/><BR/>God bless everyone, and let me go cook my poor man some dinner.selenakylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16883189902232698160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-3179160598805276962008-08-19T15:39:00.000-07:002008-08-19T15:39:00.000-07:00ohh, how this blog got nasty :-( <BR/><BR/>I think Ent has a point, and it seems like we all agree there needs to be less 'qualifiers' like Kanye used describing ScarJo. As much as I get what he was doing, in his position he didn't need to. Btw, he WAS distinguishing her in her 'category'- white, as opposed to saying 'my favourite black girl, for which he'd likely have say 'favourite girl'. For me, it's just speaking from a perspective. <BR/><BR/>Non-whites are always 'qualified' in mainstream media- newspapers and magazines. I'll use the UK as the example here, because it's where I am, and everytime they discuss a black person or indian person, it is by their race. When they refer to a white person, it isn't even mentioned. I guess the reason they do it IS to diffrentiate! It seems to me, Kanye was just doing the same thing. Maybe ScarJo just IS his favourite girl...who is white???gillianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06689346287281847731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-24089791222806459012008-08-19T15:12:00.000-07:002008-08-19T15:12:00.000-07:00Hey, Selenakyle -- a shoutout to you!! Hugs and smiles!!<BR/><BR/>Hey, this stuff is painful, no doubt. Terribly so.<BR/><BR/>I don't forget those from the '50s and '60s who forged groundbreaking work for all people. And let's not forget Cesear Chavez. No matter our skin color, we are their legacy. They endured pain and sorrow with such dignity and yet they did NOT give up!!<BR/><BR/>We must continue this legacy.<BR/><BR/>So Kanye started the conversation, then... maybe that's not such a bad thing.Gracehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16126877515887779460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-37833723945445800652008-08-19T15:00:00.000-07:002008-08-19T15:00:00.000-07:00Amen, Grace. And this is long but I have a point:<BR/><BR/>Human nature breeds an "us vs. them" mentality that we all have to fight. <BR/><BR/>It doesn't need to be skin color-based. Hell, it happens within the same racial pool.<BR/><BR/>Some of my lighter friends make fun of other blacks who are darker. Talking 'bout how black the palms of one dude's hands are. <BR/><BR/>And this example might not sound like much but it still hurts and illustrates my point--<BR/><BR/>We have couple friends who are usually nice, country people from the south, as I am (but not country).<BR/><BR/>My husband is from PA but chose to make his life and raise his kids down here in the 70's and never looked back. <BR/><BR/>When wife of the the couple gets too shitfaced on her brown "lickah" she calls my husband a Yankee and rides him. <BR/><BR/>I FUCKING DESPISE THAT. <BR/><BR/>It feels like the stinging slap of racism when it happens to you or your loved one directly--it's still pointing out another's differences in front of others like the person somehow doesn't "count." <BR/><BR/>Like he'll never "belong" no matter how long he's been in the south. F-ing morons. <BR/><BR/>That shit really hits home when it's done in front of people and the place quiets down to a hushed cricket-hearing level. <BR/><BR/>And my husband holds his head up proudly and ignores the cunt bitch with the husband who can't get it up. <BR/><BR/>Which I came pretty GD close to blurting THAT back at her last time, too, and probably WILL one of these days she hits me wrong. <BR/> <BR/>My point is--this stupidity is ALL AROUND us every f-ing day. <BR/><BR/>We have to rise above it, somehow.<BR/><BR/>Thanks, that's all.selenakylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16883189902232698160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-6060698813836185972008-08-19T14:46:00.000-07:002008-08-19T14:46:00.000-07:00AMEN, Selena. AaaaaMEN.Ernestinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13320405041881711286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-87494055224176791952008-08-19T14:24:00.000-07:002008-08-19T14:24:00.000-07:00Hey, Allison -- Love ya right back!<BR/><BR/>I think for most people here they want to get some personal experiences off their chest. That's okay -- let's use this as that forum. <BR/><BR/>But let's not hate an entire racial group based on a few bad apples. <BR/><BR/>Let's use this to get together and be a people as one, not divided. <BR/><BR/>I am of a certain racial persuasion married to a person of different racial persuasion. <BR/><BR/>I don't see myself as a victim even if someone has said something derogatory to me.<BR/><BR/>And don't give me grief with my "cumbaya"!!<BR/><BR/>We can accomplish more with one mighty fist than a bunch of whiners who are not looking for a way to work together.Gracehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16126877515887779460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-5003241934731819482008-08-19T13:50:00.000-07:002008-08-19T13:50:00.000-07:00Please, please, please, please, please dear Jah, God, Allah, Yahweh, Krishna, Buddha, Dalai Lama--whomever is up there hearing my prayers--<BR/><BR/>PLEASE let Barack Obama win in November. <BR/><BR/>The U.S. needs to MOVE ON as a country. Remember, the "melting pot" and all that.selenakylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16883189902232698160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-41520460435349835462008-08-19T13:29:00.000-07:002008-08-19T13:29:00.000-07:00Oh and by the way, you'd be wrong about not being in the minority everywhere I go. I live in a big city. I'm in the minority a lot of places I go, and often one of the only "white folk" on the public bus. And that church wasn't the only place a black person treated me like shit. And if you notice, I didn't only have negative experiences with them, either.Bad Fishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01352976662553945963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-32196098155615195382008-08-19T13:27:00.000-07:002008-08-19T13:27:00.000-07:00By all means, Allison, it does make me more sympathetic to how they feel...my point was, it goes both ways, big time.Bad Fishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01352976662553945963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-4618221806345957722008-08-19T13:11:00.000-07:002008-08-19T13:11:00.000-07:00Also, forgot to add. Right on, grace.<BR/><BR/>And good joke about ENT being your favorite lawyer, jewel. :)Allisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00416904479398452928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-56577752563706644532008-08-19T13:09:00.000-07:002008-08-19T13:09:00.000-07:00Wow. These comments make me really sad. What started out about Kanye West has turned into how most black people are racist and how hard it is to be white.<BR/><BR/>The example of attending the black churches struck me in particular. That sounds like a horrible way to be treated. Ignored as if you were invisible. Hated just for existing for no other reason than because you are difficult.<BR/><BR/>You should have a bit more compassion having felt that. That was just when you were at church and in the minority. It wasn't a daily occurance almost everywhere you went, because you were not in the minority most places you went.<BR/><BR/>I think people are being a little simplistic and the level of rage I've read here shocks me. Like I said, it's sad.<BR/><BR/>I agree with the poster above that says Obama was right that there needs to be a conversation about race. I also believe that the frustrations of whites who have felt racism need to be heard as much as blacks, Latinos, Asians, etc.<BR/><BR/>I'm black and I have experienced racial hatred against me because of it, but it doesn't make me angry at all white people for example. From the sound of some of these comments, people have a hard time separating one person from the group.<BR/><BR/>I like Kanye's music, but the favorite white girl comment is just dumb. I also think it's been blown out of proportion here.Allisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00416904479398452928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-55998492256426547082008-08-19T12:52:00.000-07:002008-08-19T12:52:00.000-07:00This has been a cathartic moment, hasn't it? Let's all take a step back and take a deep breath. <BR/><BR/>There, that's better.<BR/><BR/>Despite all the racial problems we have, I must say that on average the majority of ALL people are decent citizens who respect one another. <BR/><BR/>Let's remember that. Let's remember the goodness in each of us, no matter the background.Gracehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16126877515887779460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-35586336055132913082008-08-19T12:51:00.000-07:002008-08-19T12:51:00.000-07:00It's racial not racist. Figure out the two.Josephhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05340233292506663734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-16050419240545351002008-08-19T12:47:00.000-07:002008-08-19T12:47:00.000-07:00Oh and I forgot...Kanye is a tool but I thought that long before he started the racist crap. He's an attention whore who is doing shit like this for publicity.BlahFrickinBlahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16749986318261477214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-28146969800095928182008-08-19T12:46:00.000-07:002008-08-19T12:46:00.000-07:00oh get a fucking clue, you're telling people to stop the verbal diarhea etc. dont play fucking innocent now missy.<BR/><BR/>done...next!jaxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13009699859972498455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-5258112969835717292008-08-19T12:44:00.000-07:002008-08-19T12:44:00.000-07:00Jax, let's just ignore her. She's obviously still in high school. It's not even worth it.Ernestinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13320405041881711286noreply@blogger.com