tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post8286467364627772237..comments2009-07-07T09:18:13.917-07:00ent lawyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08658046190988387228noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-10733043859092002762009-07-07T09:18:13.917-07:002009-07-07T09:18:13.917-07:00Figgy, everything you said is so sexy, I want to marry you right now. If only there were more people in the world like you.Lizzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16988141137508946471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-50622212690165460412009-07-07T08:29:29.465-07:002009-07-07T08:29:29.465-07:00<i>How often has scientific theory said that something cannot exist or behaviors be predicted only to be proven wrong? All the time! </i><br /><br />Exactly! And that&#39;s the point--that&#39;s the <i>strength</i> of the scientific method. It&#39;s always open to revising hypotheses as new information becomes available. Science is just a tool, that&#39;s all, not a &quot;belief.&quot;<br /><br />Okay, I know I&#39;ve beaten this into the ground, and I do apologize for being buzzkillish. :-( I&#39;m done now.figgyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740579444417949021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-16829114258892872312009-07-07T03:23:14.610-07:002009-07-07T03:23:14.610-07:00Lol stiffkittens is the name of a single by Blaqk Audio, and also the name Joy Divison was before being JD (well, the also called the band something to do with Bowie in the middle of the two, but i can&#39;t remember that one).stiffkittenshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17867912573351973476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-17852043657059883782009-07-07T02:07:53.107-07:002009-07-07T02:07:53.107-07:00thanks stiffkittens. i&#39;m less creeped out by the clip but a little creeped out by your tag ;-)<br />I recommend the Jezebel bit on the MJ video -peruses some of the comments posted after the youtube video, pretty hilarious.J-Mohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02476373042337927880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-29806963558327760042009-07-07T01:40:45.086-07:002009-07-07T01:40:45.086-07:00J-Mo:<br />&quot;The image you see in the background is actually a cardboard cutout of Ted Danson. The cardboard cutout featured in a scene that was edited out of the original film, but the cardboard cutout appears in the background of the original film and has the appearance of a small boy and the lapel appears as the gun in one occasion.<br />http://www.castleofspirits.com/cardboard.jpg<br />&quot;The scene not shown in the movie that clearly shows the cardboard cutout of Ted Danson...&quot;<br /><br />From http://www.castleofspirits.com/threemenbaby.html<br /><br />It was also filmed in a studio, and not an apartment so the little ghost boy couldn&#39;t have belonged to a resident (as the rumour says).stiffkittenshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17867912573351973476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-65705847375223263942009-07-06T23:38:10.216-07:002009-07-06T23:38:10.216-07:00Very creepy. I wish I had watched it at home instead of my night shift!<br />Did anyone else notice that MJ does a little turn before the moonwalk?<br />Did Roger Ebert say the kid was a cardboard cut-out of Ted Danson? or a crew-members kid? It looks distinctly like the latter.<br />As for the supernatural, I believe in energy -including the energy we can generate ourselves (prayer).<br />That said, I&#39;m afraid the MJ mourners will succeed in bringing him back LOL.J-Mohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02476373042337927880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-50561866180112289092009-07-06T22:07:39.893-07:002009-07-06T22:07:39.893-07:00Faith and belief play a major part in our society, whether or not it&#39;s paired with knowledge. Have you ever been in love? Prove it! You can&#39;t - it&#39;s based on feeling and belief. Science can&#39;t explain everything, and it&#39;s very short-sighted to think it can. How often has scientific theory said that something cannot exist or behaviors be predicted only to be proven wrong? All the time! Every day in the &quot;scientific&quot; world of medicine for instance. I can think of at least 2 species that have been spotted within the past 12 months that science said no longer existed. Sorry, but not everything can be explained by science. Things happen that defy science, knowledge, and expectations. It&#39;s the unpredictable, the unexplainable, and if these types of occurances didn&#39;t exist we wouldn&#39;t have these words in the dictionary!<br /><br />I pride myself on my instincts, faith, and open mindedness, and none of that is based in science. It&#39;s another, perhaps fuller way to perceive our lives and the world around us.<br /><br />Obviously figgy has strong beliefs - why is it his/her beliefs are being rationalized while everyone else&#39;s are being dismissed?<br /><br />Geez, and they called me a buzzkill! :-)Bxrlvrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12109271207419120107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-89834164527782301092009-07-06T20:02:58.381-07:002009-07-06T20:02:58.381-07:00*smiles and nods*<br /><br />geez...lighten up, let people believe what they wanna believe! just cuz you feel that way figgy doesn&#39;t mean everyone does. i understand what your saying (kinda) but we aren&#39;t here to judge people for their beliefs. I think its fun to believe in things that can&#39;t be proven, its called faith...and yeah, I have itMexihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01496734875795119967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-5013187580135352852009-07-06T18:32:13.099-07:002009-07-06T18:32:13.099-07:00<i>figgy-<br />you&#39;re talking about hard science. we don&#39;t even know everything about the human brain, much less the supernatural or any afterlife.<br />i know for a fact that i&#39;ve heard and felt some that have passed over, very distinctly. not every one, but both pets and people.</i><br /><br />Science is science. The same principles in the scientific method apply to investigating ghosts as to chemistry or sociology. The fact that we don&#39;t yet know &quot;everything&quot; about the human brain doesn&#39;t negate what we do know, and continue to learn. And of course, we do know that there *is* a brain. <br /><br />It is possible to test the presence of ghosts. I can refer you to any number of such tests (aka, debunkings). While it&#39;s not possible to test directly for the existence or lack thereof of an afterlife--much less what qualities an &quot;afterlife&quot; might have--again, the burden of proof is on the claimant to prove the existence, not the skeptic to prove the non-existence. <br /><br />But to say that &quot;you can&#39;t prove it doesn&#39;t exist so therefore it does&quot; is not logical. There are many possible natural explanations for feelings you&#39;ve had of spirits. So you don&#39;t &quot;know for a fact,&quot; and on the contrary, knowing for a fact means that you can prove it scientifically. You <i>believe</i>. There&#39;s a big difference. <br /><br />Belief is a personal choice, but it&#39;s not the same as knowledge.figgyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740579444417949021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-46531351121226734622009-07-06T18:07:28.616-07:002009-07-06T18:07:28.616-07:00figgy-<br />you&#39;re talking about hard science. we don&#39;t even know everything about the human brain, much less the supernatural or any afterlife. <br />i know for a fact that i&#39;ve heard and felt some that have passed over, very distinctly. not every one, but both pets and people.bionic bunny!http://www.blogger.com/profile/08081422009833762713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-81696983275501683452009-07-06T17:50:30.229-07:002009-07-06T17:50:30.229-07:00One of the things I thought about after MJ died was that he would make one hella freaky ghost. I don&#39;t think that was his ghost we saw there, but i wouldn&#39;t be totally floored if it was either. It seemed almost to cast a shadow on the floor below it... do ghosts do that?Jungle007http://www.blogger.com/profile/10736201999427125342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-51298940801936152442009-07-06T17:19:29.571-07:002009-07-06T17:19:29.571-07:00I actually got really scared! I&#39;m blaming it on the music though.Graneledonehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11789499168990937787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-47201185108527321352009-07-06T16:57:59.438-07:002009-07-06T16:57:59.438-07:00I saw spirits one time when I was very young, and didn&#39;t know what they were so I wasn&#39;t afraid. I never mentioned them to anyone but years later in a conversation, my brother said he had seen them too.lunairehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03496454131722760955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-37375415063137695302009-07-06T16:09:03.640-07:002009-07-06T16:09:03.640-07:00No no no, basing &quot;beliefs&quot;--much less knowledge--on your own experiences is the WORST way to come to a conclusion. That&#39;s called &quot;anecdotal evidence&quot; and is worthless in isolation.figgyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740579444417949021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-46109198235145388132009-07-06T14:54:18.141-07:002009-07-06T14:54:18.141-07:00To believe or not to believe is based on your own experiences.<br /><br /><br />The 3 Men And A Baby &quot;ghost&quot; was explained on Roger Ebert&#39;s website.<br /><br />While I do believe in ghost I don&#39;t think Mike&#39;s ghost would show up and perform when Larry King&#39;s videotaping at Neverland.not on my dollarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13304937851324793987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-8113063645608485582009-07-06T14:52:11.814-07:002009-07-06T14:52:11.814-07:00the music in the MJ video and the locks on the door are far creepier than anything else!Mexihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01496734875795119967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-40513375919973832772009-07-06T14:13:25.178-07:002009-07-06T14:13:25.178-07:00So mngddess, if that&#39;s your criteria, belief without evidence, how do you know you&#39;re right? Anyone can (and does, I suppose) just embroider any kind of wishful scenario about what &quot;spirits&quot; are.<br /><br />Which is fine, we all have the right to believe as we wish. The <i>problem</i> comes in when that kind of unanalytical thinking becomes part of the larger thought process. For example, people taking on mortgages that they won&#39;t be able to repay. If more people had been thinking logically and analytically, not so many would be in financial trouble.<br /><br />I just wish logic and scientific thinking were taught more broadly. Widespread belief in ghosts and assigning supernatural explanations to phenomenon is just a symptom of the larger societal disease.figgyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740579444417949021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-51152181825008302722009-07-06T14:04:55.923-07:002009-07-06T14:04:55.923-07:00Spirits do exist, but I could care less if you believe or not. Jax, I&#39;m with you. And I am NOT watching the video...mngddesshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06517695418429591279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-84302871925882202612009-07-06T13:54:06.070-07:002009-07-06T13:54:06.070-07:00This story was shown a few years ago on TV. It claimed that the boy behind the curtains was the son of one of the crew. People will do anything to believe in ghosts.Choicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18168191329033771356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-35345120479350997542009-07-06T13:18:04.268-07:002009-07-06T13:18:04.268-07:00See: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=skeptic-agenticityfiggyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740579444417949021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-39834926453922302252009-07-06T12:55:11.371-07:002009-07-06T12:55:11.371-07:00<i>I&#39;m not saying that ghosts don&#39;t exist...there&#39;s no such thing as coincidence</i><br /><br />ANYthing <b>may</b> exist. But if you put stock in the scientific method, the null hypothesis is that something does not exist until there is sufficient evidence to suggest that it does. The standard is usually 95% confidence.<br /><br />And life is full of coincidence. I&#39;m chagrined as to why so many people claim to believe otherwise, and why this phrase has become so common. It must offer comfort...?figgyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740579444417949021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-24638063955587419072009-07-06T12:05:16.366-07:002009-07-06T12:05:16.366-07:00I saw a ghost when I was so young, I didn&#39;t even know what they were.sunnyside1213http://www.blogger.com/profile/11062785537118083276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-50952924152480886912009-07-06T11:58:53.437-07:002009-07-06T11:58:53.437-07:00I don&#39;t rule anything out as a rule, and I&#39;m not saying that ghosts don&#39;t exist. That said, I also tend to believe there&#39;s no such thing as coincidence. So, what are the chances that a ghost walked by just as they were filming in the middle of the day? Right place, right time?<br /><br />empyrios - thanks for making me laugh!Bxrlvrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12109271207419120107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-80223248256909144262009-07-06T11:55:21.530-07:002009-07-06T11:55:21.530-07:00I&#39;m a lot more creeped out by all the locks Jackson had on his bedroom door!Halfmadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12433494242225675146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-80296936996692224782009-07-06T11:36:20.715-07:002009-07-06T11:36:20.715-07:00the scary thing is that there was ever a cutout of Ted Danson made. *shudder*Juliehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07799271661142048916noreply@blogger.com