And if your election this year (or any other year) has a referendum for more funds for firemen (or police), please vote "yes" in honor of their incredible heroism. We are so amazingly lucky to have a group of people who will rush to our rescue when we're in danger without a thought of their own safety.
sad, sad. this one made me cry. having had a relative involved who thankfully made it to safety, i just can't even think about this without tearing up.
thanks enty for the beautiful photo and the reminder.
if only our citizens felt as close as we all felt then....
A dental appointment saved my sister's life on 9/11; her office at the Pentagon was one of those that was hit by the plane. Her friends, co-workers and several of her neighbors died that day.
Absolutely never forget what happened, and that it could happen again at any time. Never, ever let our guard down.
I was on the other side of the world when it happened, but I remember it as being the strangest day...like it wasn't even real. I was glued to CNN for the next few days. I had the flu with a high fever and everything was just so surreal. I can't even imagine what it would've been like for anyone living in the U.S., let alone NYC, at that time.
I hope whoever your next president is will be a person who promotes peace, tolerance, and healing.
How could we ever forget? It's jammed down our throats endlessly. Even families of the victims are wondering when they'll be allowed to move on.
Scroogle "twin towers and basement explosion". No, no, not the first one. The second one, that made those buildings *IMPLODE*. Since so many gas and fume explosions make buildings head straight down into a pile of rubbish. Why, they even make buildings several blocks away crumble to the ground.
I'm from NJ and many cities in north Jersey have 9/11 memorials as we lost lots of local people working in NYC.
The most heartbreaking part of watching the local news at the time was seeing relatives searching for loved ones and slowly realizing that those people probably didn't make it out.
It was also a beautiful September day with a really blue sky and no clouds which made that morning even more surreal.
It's nice to see someone paying respect and tribute on this day. It's sad when the 25th anniversary of the VMAs get more press than a devastatingly tragic event that occurred just seven short years ago.
never forget. what happened to the flags? the country roads and major highways became a sea of flags. yards and balconies had flags waving. we unified as americans. it's not about politics. our country is half dem and half rep, but we all came together. we need to stop bickering and remember that we're all americans. never forget.
I won't forget. For years, the sound of a jet engine made me cringe. I was in the shadow of the south tower when the first plane hit. I remember looking up and seeing the windows of the Millennium Hotel shaking in their frames. The boom of the impact vibrated my insides. That night, I found teeny pieces of glass embedded in my scalp.
For all the innocent people who died that day, I hope there will be justice someday. It's certainly not happening now.
The people whose lives were lost and the families who grieve for them will be forever in our hearts and minds. But lets also not forget that certain politicians are using this horrible tragedy as an excuse to keep the USA in a war that can never be won and it is costing us more and more lives and leaving more and more grieving survivors. Lets not memorialize tragic deaths with more senseless deaths.
As Captivagrl said, it's not about politics. Can't we just agree that we'd all like to make the world a safer and better place for everyone, and leave the fighting about how it should be done for another day?
yes mooshki! and everyone can express "how it should be done" with their vote in november. PLEASE register and cast your vote. and try to respect everyone's right to oppose your opinion.
Reese, a friend of mine was on vacation and was originally scheduled to be on the American Airlines flight 11 but had to come back a day early on 9/10 because his tooth hurt and he had to go to the dentist. Who would have thought having a root canal would be the lesser of two evils.
Oh and another thing..I want to thank James Woods. Some of you might not like him or his acting (personally I think he's great) but thank God he was aware of his surroundings and people's behavior and had the balls to speak up and do something about it. I will always always admire him for that.
On that morning, I drove past the Pentagon a few minutes before it was hit, on my way to work and a meeting at the White House (which was evacuated shortly thereafter.)
I heard and felt the shake when the Pentagon got hit. Stuck in traffic, I could only look in my rear view mirror and see the smoke.
The hotel I staying in while I was in NYC a couple of years ago had all these patches from the firemen & police officers that came from all over North America. It was interesting to see how far they came just to help.
I still find it hard to comprehend that much evil.
I remember that day so clearly. I was living in Chicago at the time, and it was such a beautiful day that it made you wonder how anything bad could happen on a day like that. My aunt, who lives in Canada, heard about the attacks on the news. Apparently it was erroneously reported at one point that Chicago had been attacked as well. She called my mother at work to tell her that I might be dead. (Oh, we've been over that. SO not cool.)
But as much as I remember that day, the one moment of that week that is frozen in my mind happened a few days later. I was out in the evening walking my dog. It was rush hour and the street was filled with people. Suddenly, there was the noise of a plane overhead. And everyone -- every single person -- on the street, in their cars, looking out windows -- we all froze. Everyone's gaze moved in unison as we watched the plane glide overhead on its way towards O'Hare airport. Once it was out of sight, we all looked around at the tears in everyone else's eyes. I wondered if there would ever be a day when we would stop watching the planes overhead.
I had just moved to London from Washington DC a few weeks before 9/11, and never imagined that the next time I visited home, it would be to a completely different country. I had always thought it would be my family calling me to ask if I was okay after some small terrorist bomb in Europe. I never imagined it would be me frantically calling home to ask if my family was okay. The first time I flew back to the US after 9/11, I was overwhelmed by all the flags, even though I knew it was happening. Me, That evening, I proudly hung the american flag my family had sent me a few days before, in the living room that I shared with a Japanese woman, french woman and italian woman. No one thought twice about the need to hang that flag. It represented something important to all of us that day.
9/11 was not just an american tragedy. It was a worldwide tragedy. On that one day, we were all americans, even if our official nationality was irish, dutch or chinese. The lines to sign the condolences book outside the US embassy went around the block, and the memorial service was in St. Paul's Cathedral. Not just americans died, but also citizens of many countries. For that one day, we were united as a world.
Captivagirl, my flag is in my car, safe & sound, over the passenger-side mirror... where it's been for 15 years... I did not like all the raggedy flags on the cars after so long...
I also have one big one on the wall in my house...
and one that I put on a pole outside on patriotic holidays.
And one that's in a closet waiting on the person it belongs to. (I don't know who that is, yet, I'm sure he or she will show up at some point in time).
Heather: to this day, I still watch the planes. And say a safe-prayer for the people.
Yanno... before 9/11, I heard Southerners talk about damn northerners. Since then, I have not heard one Southerner use the word 'Northerner' or 'Yankee' in a derogatory manner. Not. One. We were all New Yorkers on that day.
Valerie, the St. Paul's memorial service was indeed spectacular, as I remember it from TV. The Queen sang every word of the American national anthem and "America The Beautiful". It was a sight to behold. Compassion and empathy ran broad and deep in those weeks; citizens of 91 countries died in the attacks. I hope and pray we never experience anything that horrible again in our lifetimes.
i remember. it was all so surreal. i wasn't entirely sure what had happened, and for some reason i had to go to costco that morning. all of a sudden i was surrounded by all these big screen TVs and people standing and staring. i was in line to check out and suddenly had one of my (clinical) anxiety attacks. all i could think to do was call my best friend in atlanta, who's in the navy reserves and served in the gulf coast. he got me through the line, and every thing he forcasted that day came to be, even down to the time frame he would be sent over.
captiva, i have a genuine, 20 foot flag pole in my front yard. it has a solar powered light so i can fly old glory 24 hours a day. i have a service that lets me know what days are half-mast days, and oddly enough, i didn't get an email yesterday, but i'm sure it was an oversight. it's been at half-mast since midnight and will remain so until midnight tonight. oh, and while above mentioned friend was in irag, we also flew the seabees flag. and i still can't watch any of the movies, just like i can't watch a shuttle launch. One Nation, Under God.
Thank you ENT!!!! Thank you for remembering!! People should NEVER forget and be reminded of this tragedy in some way every day!! This was the worst day of my life. I lost family and dear friends that I miss more than anything!!! I can't believe it's been 7 years!! Check out my memorial tat!! It's still not finished!!!
junglekitten, I am sorry for your loss. Your tat is beautiful.
I was one month into mat leave when it happened. The company I worked for at the time in Montreal had their offices on the 102nd floor of the South Tower. Quite a number of the Montreal staff members had transferred to NY after a buyout, and the company had a family feel to it - everyone either knew everyone personally or we had heard of one another from multiple people. All good. To this day I'm haunted by a picture I saw of one co-worker just before I left on mat leave - she had taken a year off after her daughter was born. In the picture she was at a beach house with her daughter and they both looked so happy. I even commented about how this is true happiness. She went back to work a week or so before the attack.
For almost 24 hours straight I held my son in my arms - fed him, rocked him, let him sleep while flipping from channel to channel in hopes I saw someone I knew in the crowds. I was actually afraid for his future during that time - what kind of world did I bring him into?
We live out in the country but we're under an intersecting flight path. Every day since then we watch the planes go over. Many times we've paused and wondered if a plane is about to crash because we hear the air brakes so often and some of the planes fly too low for our comfort. And as each September passes, I ask myself when we all forgot to be kinder to one another.
"I ask myself when we all forgot to be kinder to one another."
It's too overwhelming when you think of changing the whole world. You just have to try to be kinder to the people around you and hope that enough other people will do the same to make a real difference. :)
Thanks Shakey. I think we need to ALL ask ourselves that very question!! It just seems like there are so many people born missing an ingredient!! I guess all we can do is spread the word, love our chirldren with every ounce of our being, and realize how in an instant everything can all be taken away!!!
junglekitten--so sorry for your loss, and to everyone else who lost a loved one.
My husband was one of those stranded with no way home from the city, & no way to communicate. He walked across the bridge with thousands of others, & had a stranger pick him up & drop him off on an exit off the expressway where I retrieed him. Until everyone I knew--inluding my brother & sister were accounted for, it was a living nightmare.
Not a famous adrian, than you! You must have been freaking out!! Thank god your family is safe and sound! I didn't really know what had happened at first because I was stuck in the subway!! News slowly started spreading, as I myself was bugging because my fiance was a NYF and nowhere to be found!! I was stuck in there for 12 hours. The following hours and days are just a big blur. There were so many helpful, wonderful New Yorkers that day!! I will never forget how all of us pulled together in the worst of times.
This has to be one of the ugliest anniversaries we all share, not just here but many people from all over the world reached out to American's at the time. Too bad Bush ruined what currency we had abroad.
In other news, the Afghan war rages on with the most ever casualties.
it's not the war in afghanistan that concerns me. we need to be there. it's the bullshit war in iraq that pisses me off.
so sorry to all of you who lost friends and relatives. junglekitten, nic tat, and thanks for showing us a pic.
what i don't get is, if someone is sick of hearing about 9/11, why come into a thread with people discussing it? stay the fuck out if that's how you feel. some people are still mourning the loss of loved ones. show some compassion or shut the fuck up.
I wouldn't call it an "ugly" anniversary. Yes, it was a devastating tragedy, but as many people have said above, it showed that it is still possible for the people of our country, and the world, to pull together in support of each other regardless of personal differences, and that is such a great thing to know - it keeps hope alive.
And if your election this year (or any other year) has a referendum for more funds for firemen (or police), please vote "yes" in honor of their incredible heroism. We are so amazingly lucky to have a group of people who will rush to our rescue when we're in danger without a thought of their own safety.
ReplyDeleteWell said, mooshki.
ReplyDeleteRoger that.
ReplyDeleteYES, SECOND THIRD AND FOURTH THAT.....WE CAN NEVER REPAY THEM...
ReplyDeleteTrust me, I won't.
ReplyDeleteI am with all of you on that. Everyone who lost their lives 7 years ago will always be in our hearts. They are all heroes and we will never forget.
ReplyDeleteI live in NYC and with most people I still find it emotionally difficult.
RIP to the countless men and women who's lives were lost so tragically.
ReplyDeletewe will NEVER forget.
sad, sad. this one made me cry. having had a relative involved who thankfully made it to safety, i just can't even think about this without tearing up.
ReplyDeletethanks enty for the beautiful photo and the reminder.
if only our citizens felt as close as we all felt then....
A dental appointment saved my sister's life on 9/11; her office at the Pentagon was one of those that was hit by the plane. Her friends, co-workers and several of her neighbors died that day.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely never forget what happened, and that it could happen again at any time. Never, ever let our guard down.
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ReplyDeleteI was on the other side of the world when it happened, but I remember it as being the strangest day...like it wasn't even real. I was glued to CNN for the next few days. I had the flu with a high fever and everything was just so surreal. I can't even imagine what it would've been like for anyone living in the U.S., let alone NYC, at that time.
ReplyDeleteI hope whoever your next president is will be a person who promotes peace, tolerance, and healing.
Thank you for the tribute.
ReplyDeleteHow could we ever forget? It's jammed down our throats endlessly. Even families of the victims are wondering when they'll be allowed to move on.
ReplyDeleteScroogle "twin towers and basement explosion". No, no, not the first one. The second one, that made those buildings *IMPLODE*. Since so many gas and fume explosions make buildings head straight down into a pile of rubbish. Why, they even make buildings several blocks away crumble to the ground.
Huh. You can put lipstick on a pig...
I'm from NJ and many cities in north Jersey have 9/11 memorials as we lost lots of local people working in NYC.
ReplyDeleteThe most heartbreaking part of watching the local news at the time was seeing relatives searching for loved ones and slowly realizing that those people probably didn't make it out.
It was also a beautiful September day with a really blue sky and no clouds which made that morning even more surreal.
Thanks Ent. It seems like 9/11 is being slowly forgotten or there is less of a tribute.
ReplyDeleteI printed out flags yesterday for the office. I know I will never forget.
And we still don't have bin Laden's head on a stick, but sure as hell the "powers that be" probably know where the f*cker is hiding.
ReplyDeleteFor shame, for shame...
It's nice to see someone paying respect and tribute on this day. It's sad when the 25th anniversary of the VMAs get more press than a devastatingly tragic event that occurred just seven short years ago.
ReplyDeletenever forget. what happened to the flags? the country roads and major highways became a sea of flags. yards and balconies had flags waving. we unified as americans. it's not about politics. our country is half dem and half rep, but we all came together. we need to stop bickering and remember that we're all americans. never forget.
ReplyDeleteI heard about it on the way to work and was in such a state of shock that I almost hit the car in front of me. I will never forget.
ReplyDeleteI won't forget. For years, the sound of a jet engine made me cringe. I was in the shadow of the south tower when the first plane hit. I remember looking up and seeing the windows of the Millennium Hotel shaking in their frames. The boom of the impact vibrated my insides. That night, I found teeny pieces of glass embedded in my scalp.
ReplyDeleteFor all the innocent people who died that day, I hope there will be justice someday. It's certainly not happening now.
The people whose lives were lost and the families who grieve for them will be forever in our hearts and minds. But lets also not forget that certain politicians are using this horrible tragedy as an excuse to keep the USA in a war that can never be won and it is costing us more and more lives and leaving more and more grieving survivors. Lets not memorialize tragic deaths with more senseless deaths.
ReplyDeleteAs Captivagrl said, it's not about politics. Can't we just agree that we'd all like to make the world a safer and better place for everyone, and leave the fighting about how it should be done for another day?
ReplyDeleteyes mooshki! and everyone can express "how it should be done" with their vote in november. PLEASE register and cast your vote. and try to respect everyone's right to oppose your opinion.
ReplyDeleteReese, a friend of mine was on vacation and was originally scheduled to be on the American Airlines flight 11 but had to come back a day early on 9/10 because his tooth hurt and he had to go to the dentist. Who would have thought having a root canal would be the lesser of two evils.
ReplyDeleteby the way, the lights are a very beautiful and moving tribute. i still can't accept the new skyline without the towers.
ReplyDeleteIt was also a beautiful September day with a really blue sky and no clouds which made that morning even more surreal.
ReplyDeleteoh my god, cheryl, i so vividly remember how gorgeous that day way. I was in such a happy mood on the way to work.
captivagrl, I have a little flag on my car window, to remind me. :)
ReplyDeleteI agree with captivagrl and mooshki this isn't the place or time to talk politics. This is a time to remember people who we will never get to know.
Oh and another thing..I want to thank James Woods. Some of you might not like him or his acting (personally I think he's great) but thank God he was aware of his surroundings and people's behavior and had the balls to speak up and do something about it. I will always always admire him for that.
ReplyDeleteOn that morning, I drove past the Pentagon a few minutes before it was hit, on my way to work and a meeting at the White House (which was evacuated shortly thereafter.)
ReplyDeleteI heard and felt the shake when the Pentagon got hit. Stuck in traffic, I could only look in my rear view mirror and see the smoke.
No, I'll never forget.
Never.
ReplyDeleteThe hotel I staying in while I was in NYC a couple of years ago had all these patches from the firemen & police officers that came from all over North America. It was interesting to see how far they came just to help.
I still find it hard to comprehend that much evil.
I remember that day so clearly. I was living in Chicago at the time, and it was such a beautiful day that it made you wonder how anything bad could happen on a day like that. My aunt, who lives in Canada, heard about the attacks on the news. Apparently it was erroneously reported at one point that Chicago had been attacked as well. She called my mother at work to tell her that I might be dead. (Oh, we've been over that. SO not cool.)
ReplyDeleteBut as much as I remember that day, the one moment of that week that is frozen in my mind happened a few days later. I was out in the evening walking my dog. It was rush hour and the street was filled with people. Suddenly, there was the noise of a plane overhead. And everyone -- every single person -- on the street, in their cars, looking out windows -- we all froze. Everyone's gaze moved in unison as we watched the plane glide overhead on its way towards O'Hare airport. Once it was out of sight, we all looked around at the tears in everyone else's eyes. I wondered if there would ever be a day when we would stop watching the planes overhead.
Sometimes I still do.
I didnt even know my grandparents were visiting New York. My grandma's perpetual lateness kept them from being in the Towers that day.
ReplyDeleteNever forget these victims-I know I still get chills when people mention Sept 11th in casual conversation: like making a vet appointment for today.
I had just moved to London from Washington DC a few weeks before 9/11, and never imagined that the next time I visited home, it would be to a completely different country. I had always thought it would be my family calling me to ask if I was okay after some small terrorist bomb in Europe. I never imagined it would be me frantically calling home to ask if my family was okay. The first time I flew back to the US after 9/11, I was overwhelmed by all the flags, even though I knew it was happening. Me, That evening, I proudly hung the american flag my family had sent me a few days before, in the living room that I shared with a Japanese woman, french woman and italian woman. No one thought twice about the need to hang that flag. It represented something important to all of us that day.
ReplyDelete9/11 was not just an american tragedy. It was a worldwide tragedy. On that one day, we were all americans, even if our official nationality was irish, dutch or chinese. The lines to sign the condolences book outside the US embassy went around the block, and the memorial service was in St. Paul's Cathedral. Not just americans died, but also citizens of many countries. For that one day, we were united as a world.
Captivagirl, my flag is in my car, safe & sound, over the passenger-side mirror... where it's been for 15 years... I did not like all the raggedy flags on the cars after so long...
ReplyDeleteI also have one big one on the wall in my house...
and one that I put on a pole outside on patriotic holidays.
And one that's in a closet waiting on the person it belongs to. (I don't know who that is, yet, I'm sure he or she will show up at some point in time).
Heather: to this day, I still watch the planes. And say a safe-prayer for the people.
Yanno... before 9/11, I heard Southerners talk about damn northerners. Since then, I have not heard one Southerner use the word 'Northerner' or 'Yankee' in a derogatory manner. Not. One. We were all New Yorkers on that day.
And we've all been together since then.
Valerie, the St. Paul's memorial service was indeed spectacular, as I remember it from TV. The Queen sang every word of the American national anthem and "America The Beautiful". It was a sight to behold. Compassion and empathy ran broad and deep in those weeks; citizens of 91 countries died in the attacks. I hope and pray we never experience anything that horrible again in our lifetimes.
ReplyDeleteOh, and I made that pic my desktop... (took off a Jack Vettriano pic...)
ReplyDeleteThanks, Enty....
i remember. it was all so surreal. i wasn't entirely sure what had happened, and for some reason i had to go to costco that morning. all of a sudden i was surrounded by all these big screen TVs and people standing and staring. i was in line to check out and suddenly had one of my (clinical) anxiety attacks. all i could think to do was call my best friend in atlanta, who's in the navy reserves and served in the gulf coast. he got me through the line, and every thing he forcasted that day came to be, even down to the time frame he would be sent over.
ReplyDeletecaptiva, i have a genuine, 20 foot flag pole in my front yard. it has a solar powered light so i can fly old glory 24 hours a day. i have a service that lets me know what days are half-mast days, and oddly enough, i didn't get an email yesterday, but i'm sure it was an oversight. it's been at half-mast since midnight and will remain so until midnight tonight.
oh, and while above mentioned friend was in irag, we also flew the seabees flag.
and i still can't watch any of the movies, just like i can't watch a shuttle launch.
One Nation, Under God.
Thank you ENT!!!! Thank you for remembering!! People should NEVER forget and be reminded of this tragedy in some way every day!! This was the worst day of my life. I lost family and dear friends that I miss more than anything!!! I can't believe it's been 7 years!! Check out my memorial tat!! It's still not finished!!!
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Kitten, I'm sorry for your losses. :( I couldn't access your pic - do you want to upload it to tinypic.com?
ReplyDeleteThanks mooshki!! I'll try it now!!!!
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ReplyDeletetry this
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I hope it works!!!!
Wow, that's so sad and beautiful.
ReplyDeleteThank you!! I really wanted this for a long time! I finally started it!! It's still not done!!!!! I have to add color and finish the towers.
ReplyDeletejunglekitten, I am sorry for your loss. Your tat is beautiful.
ReplyDeleteI was one month into mat leave when it happened. The company I worked for at the time in Montreal had their offices on the 102nd floor of the South Tower. Quite a number of the Montreal staff members had transferred to NY after a buyout, and the company had a family feel to it - everyone either knew everyone personally or we had heard of one another from multiple people. All good. To this day I'm haunted by a picture I saw of one co-worker just before I left on mat leave - she had taken a year off after her daughter was born. In the picture she was at a beach house with her daughter and they both looked so happy. I even commented about how this is true happiness. She went back to work a week or so before the attack.
For almost 24 hours straight I held my son in my arms - fed him, rocked him, let him sleep while flipping from channel to channel in hopes I saw someone I knew in the crowds. I was actually afraid for his future during that time - what kind of world did I bring him into?
We live out in the country but we're under an intersecting flight path. Every day since then we watch the planes go over. Many times we've paused and wondered if a plane is about to crash because we hear the air brakes so often and some of the planes fly too low for our comfort. And as each September passes, I ask myself when we all forgot to be kinder to one another.
"I ask myself when we all forgot to be kinder to one another."
ReplyDeleteIt's too overwhelming when you think of changing the whole world. You just have to try to be kinder to the people around you and hope that enough other people will do the same to make a real difference. :)
Thanks Shakey. I think we need to ALL ask ourselves that very question!! It just seems like there are so many people born missing an ingredient!! I guess all we can do is spread the word, love our chirldren with every ounce of our being, and realize how in an instant everything can all be taken away!!!
ReplyDeletejunglekitten--so sorry for your loss, and to everyone else who lost a loved one.
ReplyDeleteMy husband was one of those stranded
with no way home from the city, & no way to communicate. He walked across the bridge with thousands of others, & had a stranger pick him up & drop him off on an exit off the expressway where I retrieed him.
Until everyone I knew--inluding my brother & sister were accounted for, it was a living nightmare.
Not a famous adrian, than you! You must have been freaking out!! Thank god your family is safe and sound! I didn't really know what had happened at first because I was stuck in the subway!! News slowly started spreading, as I myself was bugging because my fiance was a NYF and nowhere to be found!! I was stuck in there for 12 hours. The following hours and days are just a big blur. There were so many helpful, wonderful New Yorkers that day!! I will never forget how all of us pulled together in the worst of times.
ReplyDeleteThis has to be one of the ugliest anniversaries we all share, not just here but many people from all over the world reached out to American's at the time. Too bad Bush ruined what currency we had abroad.
ReplyDeleteIn other news, the Afghan war rages on with the most ever casualties.
it's not the war in afghanistan that concerns me. we need to be there. it's the bullshit war in iraq that pisses me off.
ReplyDeleteso sorry to all of you who lost friends and relatives. junglekitten, nic tat, and thanks for showing us a pic.
what i don't get is, if someone is sick of hearing about 9/11, why come into a thread with people discussing it? stay the fuck out if that's how you feel. some people are still mourning the loss of loved ones. show some compassion or shut the fuck up.
I wouldn't call it an "ugly" anniversary. Yes, it was a devastating tragedy, but as many people have said above, it showed that it is still possible for the people of our country, and the world, to pull together in support of each other regardless of personal differences, and that is such a great thing to know - it keeps hope alive.
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