Thursday, May 10, 2012

Second John Travolta Accuser Has Lots Of Proof


The man who is being called John Doe #2 and is probably getting paid a great deal of money by Radar says he has proof of his allegations and there are also multiple witnesses. Immediately after John Travolta allegedly sexually assaulted him, the man sent e-mails to his employers documenting everything that happened. Later, John Travolta came down to the spa at the hotel and was acting like an a-hole and demanding the man come back up and finish the massage. There are multiple witnesses to that event. The hotel employers ignored the e-mails of the employee and I think they now are wishing they had paid better attention and done something because the employers at Harrah's in Tahoe ended up spending a huge chunk of money on their employee after she complained about Ben Roethlisberger and his assault and they did nothing. The woman rightfully got a lot of money which was paid by Big Ben and the hotel. If your employees are assaulted, just because someone famous did it does not mean they are lying.

83 comments:

angie said...

"If your employees are assaulted, just because someone famous did it does not mean they are lying."

Totally agree with that, but if accuser #2 is in fact receiving a great deal of money from Radar for his cooperation, that would create doubt I my mind as a juror as to his true motive, which in turn would raise doubt in my mind as to what really happened. It also doesn't help that his employers didn't perceive a situation as serious as #2 describes.

Regardless, I think we'll see a chastened much more appropriate acting JT in the future.

Sian said...

that photo of john is creeeepy.

figgy said...

I think John looks great in that photo--embrace the baldness, John!

But, he does look extraordinarily gay there too. Embrace the gay, John!

Yep, John needs to just come out as a proud bald gay man. :-)

Seachica said...

And to think so much of this could be avoided if he weren't so repressed.

Basil said...

Why doesn't he just hire escorts? At least they will be discreet.

annabella9 said...

some people just don't get this. this is not about john coming out as a proud gay man. its not about whether he's gay or not. its about the fact that he seems to be a serial predator and abuser.

CantHaveMyPurse said...

this is getting messier by the day...

msgirl said...

This is not going to go away but will get bigger and bigger. I hope it becomes a major blow to CoS as well.

Saffron said...

Good! Let's destroy the wealthy, entitled a$$holes that assault, abuse and use the little people for their own pleasures. And that includes criminal employers.

Tempestuous Grape said...

The new Silversun Pickups album is more interesting than this story and honey, that's really saying something. :( I was so hopeful, but way too sleepy-ni-night for me.

SueRH said...

What is CoS?

Seachica said...

I'm still skeptical about these stories -- is this Scientology's way of bringing him down? Or is this a case of an extremely repressed gay man not knowing where the line between welcome and unwelcome physical advances is?

I am hesitant to call him a predator, until I know more. A harrasser, yes. But "predator" is a strong word.

Seachica said...

CoS = Church of Scientology

Linnea said...

What do you guys think about the "proof" tmz has?

whocaresnow12 said...

I wonder how far back the witnesses will go: the 90's, the 80's,.....I'm guessing that they'll manage to dig up former victims and witnesses as far back as Rhinestone Cowboy. In fact, I'm willing to bet on it.

Ms Cool said...

Annabella9 is correct. This seems to be about power and entitlement (if true).

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Elizabeth said...

I read the links posted here yesterday and there are first person stories everywhere you go now. In all honesty, John is starting to sound like a sex addict.

I would say the stories are embellished but they all sound similar and he seems to have a very aggressive and unrelenting approach and he is described as insatiable. That's probably great if you are a willing conquest, but if you're not, it's probably pretty upsetting considering his celebrity status.

Nellie said...

Annabella9 is right.

Let's please stop "excusing" this by filing it under gay behavior. This is not gay behavior!! This is harassment and assault and since this behavior has been talked about for years, it's a pattern. He is a predator.

Blaming this on his being gay is sickening. Men who rape women dont have their actions blamed on them being straight. Sexual preference might help in selecting the gender if their victims but that IS ALL!!

AuntJess said...

If what Radar is reporting is correct (like is it ever?), what is this? Is it ego? Has no one ever refused his magnanimous offer to let them be the specialy selected one to give the daily rub & tug? And I'm a Huge fan-I can get over the Co$, I can look past the fake KP preggo belly but I CAN NOT with agrresive sexual behavior. Can't call him a predator yet but boy is he skeezing closer to red on my Creep Emeter.

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Elizabeth said...

You can make excuses for him by saying it's because he's repressed by CoS but would you make that same excuse for a non-celebrity? Look at all the spas/hotels he's been banished from. Pretty surprising and I like him as an actor but being objective, it's not right.

Aly said...

Where's HIMMMM when you need him to verify all of this for us?

parissucksliterally said...

I believe the accusers.

Anonymous said...

All sexual assault (rape, I shouldn't have to mention it separately but date rape, molesting, groping at work, the casting couch, John Travolta, etc.) is about exerting power and control over someone. I don't know every motivation and frankly don't care b/c there's never a justifiable argument for this behavior. However, it's very important to remember that it's never about the actual sexual act itself and the benefits and pleasure that comes with it. Hence, his (ab)using 'real' people over pros.

It does bother me that people making the accusations will talk to the press instead of just going through the legal system exclusively and police when applicable which I guess would be in most cases of assault.

anita_mark said...

That picture makes him look like the type of guy who'll bring a guy home, have sex with him and then beat the shit out of the guy for making him gay.

@T-Grape, your comment made me smirk. They are so boring to listen to, I hate when they come on the radio when I'm driving because I'm scared I may fall asleep at the wheel.

BigMama said...

Second that!

Cheap and Pretty said...

Just curious... Has there been a post or any comments about the missing LA film executive? I don't recall seeing any in the last few days, but maybe I missed it. I'm not going to lie, when I heard the story my first thought was Himmmm...

Anonymous said...

@C&Pretty Last night Nikki posted that the cops had reclassified it as a possible homicide but she was confused as to why since they had previously said that there was no suspicious evidence. I haven't checked if they've updated since.

JoElla said...

Cheap, I was wondering about that story also.

Oh John, this is turning into a clusterf*ck for you..

Shall we start the count down for him entering rehab for treatment for being a sex addict?

Geebz said...

A lot of people that try to go through the court system without going to the rags get brushed aside. How do you think the authorities would respond to a man that came in to file a sexual assault complaint against a Hollywood male celebrity? How would a regular everyday guy be observed coming in to file a complaint against a sexually aggressive regular everyday pervert without name recognition.

It's sad but society would ridicule them and dismiss them unless they had some type of financial backing or a source like NE or RADAR to get the stories out there so that it would be taken seriously.

The 1st guy came out with this 2 weeks ago and then it quieted down. When he lawyered up and asked for money, it blew up and spread like wildfire.

I admire all of the people that state they should have just gone to the authorities but let's be real. This is a unique situation that would not have been handled properly. It's nice that you still believe the system works but I believe these are 1. men of color, 2. men that have been ridiculed by a big whig celebrity & 3. I believe on guy has a family and principles that he's trying to protect against the Co$ (that's a whole 'nother bridge to cross)

This is REAL and the guy is a predator. He sh!ts on little people and is mad with power. Good movies be damned. That sh!t is not real. Wake up & smell the reality because he played characters you like doesn't mean that is him in real life. He's an actor baby!

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Trey said...

Since Travolta's people started talking to the press immediately, I don't blame the victim for going to the press as well. If it's not true, it'll be a shame but since there are claims of so many people it seems more likely to be true.

Travolta has some serious issues.

angie said...

@Geebz, when you start accepting large quantities of money from gossip rags in exchange for sharing your story, you've squandered your legal credibility. That is real life too.

lazyday603 said...

@Tempestuous Grape, I'm giving the new Silversun Pickups a first listen & like everything I've heard so far. I love the New Order intro to The Pit. It may take a few listens before it starts growing on you. I love those guys. It's good to know that a few bands can still create classic rock at this late date.

Seachica said...

What is the story of the LA exec?

captivagrl said...

Wonder if a criminal investigation is underway? If the allegations are true, he's a sexual predator. No means no. And your sexual orientation is irrelevant.

Tempestuous Grape said...

@lazyday603 You're so right, and I know that how goes with some albums. It's just not rockin' enough for me now, but it's ok I'm sure it'll grow on me. :)

Lindy said...

One of my best friends told me a story years ago about being at a spa near Sunset Blvd. and seeing a couple of young male masseuses complaining at the front desk about JT and a buddy coming in and trying to force them into sexual interactions. The two young guys were angry and disgusted. He was known for this behavior around town back then. This isn't about being gay. This is sick, abusive, entitled behavior.

cheesegrater15 said...

Fuck the sex shit, Travolta should have been drawn and quartered for Face Off.

Seachica said...

@Geebz -- I am hesitant to call him a predator not because I'm a huge fan of Travolta's movies (in fact, I hated Pulp Fiction and all his films after that). I'm hesitant for several reasons:

1) I'm not convinced yet that this isn't Scientology's way of getting revenge on him. Travolta had one foot out the Scientology door. I wouldn't put it past them to try to smear his rep publicly
2) Lots of past rumors of JT with boyfriends, but this is the first time I've heard of the guys not being willing. See #2 for why that makes me skeptical.
3) I'm hesitant to smear JT with anything stronger than harassment until there's proof, or a whole lot of fire. My barrier is higher than with some, because the CoS is involved. I just don't trust the CoS not to create false allegations. Lie down with dogs...

What I do know for certain is that Travolta has been repressed for a very long time. He's a gay man who has had to be secretive about his desires, and also is famous and surrounded by guys who are willing to do him just because they can say "I did Travolta" -- even acc. to yesterday's posts, straight men who were willing to cross the line b/c he's a celebrity. That's a mix for inappropriate behavior, for sure.

JoElla said...

OMG Vicki!!

bwhahahhahahahahahahha

Seachica said...

And his sexual orientation is relevant. How many heterosexuals do you know who are repressed because society frowns on them having sex with the opposite sex?

L'auteur said...

I'm willing to bet that Scientology has a role in these latest lawsuits. However, that doesn't make them invalid. Just that they are getting more press now perhaps because Scientology isn't paying/threatening to have John Travolta's behavior covered up.

L'auteur said...

I'm willing to bet that Scientology has a role in these latest lawsuits. However, that doesn't make them invalid. Just that they are getting more press now perhaps because Scientology isn't paying/threatening to have John Travolta's behavior covered up.

Anonymous poster said...

You don't need to call Himmmm for confirmation that JT has always been rather open but not out of the closet about his love of boys. Even before he was married. It's just that when he was young there was no Perez Hilton shouting people out of the closet!!

angie said...

Agree Seachica. The leap from harassment to predation is a big one. It seems some equate serial harassment with predation.

captivagrl said...

Not relevant to me. If a straight man groped a female masseuse during a massage it would be just as inappropriate. It's a crime. IF John planned these sessions than he is a predator. Unwanted sexual advances and the described groping while I'm working? I'd phone the police. And then my attorney...

selenakyle said...

I, too, love his look in this photo. Bad-ass all the way!

(Gay or not, I do not care...AND I'm in NC where the majority of my dumb fuck co-constituents just passed a stupid fecking bill that will potentially harm their daughters and sisters--all in the name of "keeping the gays from marrying!" And "marriage is sacred" and all that back-woods, backwards thinking crap).

Stupid-ass idiots in this state.

selenakyle said...

Oh, but I really didn't read the post...

If he is a predator then I hope he gets called out on it and gets what's legally coming to him.

Do the crime ---> gotta do the time.

Megley said...

I don't think the Scientolonuts are behind this; I think John himself set this situation up. If the rumors that he's been wanting to leave CoS are true, and if the rumors that both the church and Kelly are against it, then it makes sense in a twisted way to set himself up. It's been said that John is not too bright, and I can see him desperate to get out from under his crap life. He might figure that it'll cost him a lot of money, but then the leverage that CoS and Kelly have over him is diminished. I don't know--just thinking out loud.
At any rate, the rumors of this behavior have been dogging him for decades now--there has to be something there. And for those who believe that no one would turn John down, uh, he's not Barbarino anymore.

Anothergrayhare said...

Never thought of it as Cos working to destroy him but it makes sense. Wasn't there a blind about someone getting ready to come out but his "religion" was going to expose him or something like that? Everyone guessed JT and CoS. Going to hide under my desk now. Those folks are scary.

Lindy said...

Being a closeted homosexual has nothing whatsoever to do with this sort of behavior. Implying that it does is an insult to the entire community. Sexual harassment is just that. It is not excusable because of repression. JT is preying upon members of a community that does suffer from oppression and bigotry. He doesn't seem to care about that.

angie said...

Just to clear up the confusion between terms - a predator will force him/herself on an unwilling party until satisfaction is obtained, in other words commit rape, etc. Short of that, it's harassment.

captivagrl said...

sexual predator: a person who habitually seeks out sexual situations that are deemed exploitative

DueDiligence said...

Meh, I'm still withholding judgement here. Not that I'm a big JT fan or anything, but there are too many issues surrounding it.

Now JT may well be gay, but that does NOT make him a predator. If there is a sub-plot of him wanting out of the CoS because he finally watched SouthPark and realizes it's a load of BS, then I think they are ABSOLUTELY the types to launch a search and destroy mission on the guy. Let's wait and see how this shakes out before jumping to conclusions.

nunaurbiz said...

From Twitter:

David Spade ‏ @DavidSpade

I dont know if this travolta stuff is true but it goes back to what my grandma always told me, 'wheres there's smoke there's handjobs'

kim said...

Having read the complaint, I have to wonder if JT will now groom his public area. Then he could claim mistaken identity!

NaNa LaLa said...

In college, I had a friend whose ex-girlfriend's dad was John's agent between his glory days and before Pulp Fiction. According to him, he was a Grade A asswipe and John couldn't understand why anyone wouldn't hire him. After all, he was a triple threat with his acting, singing, and all around good looks. The agent could not convince him to take any role that he was not the star of. He would come in screaming and throwing a tantrum about how it was all the agents fault for not finding him the right parts, when in actuality the agent was begging people to hire him.

This is as close to any celebrity gossip I have. I hold that nugget close as my dinner party conversation. :)

tamarind said...

Ahhhh...a day in the life of JT. Not a nice place to be.
Lots $ and fame= Power
how he got here no one knows...was he himself raped? all the women throwing themselves at him...soo sad for poor Jett. what actually happened that day, John will carry with him the rest of his life.
His wife will be o.k. she gets a free pass.

a non a miss said...

Check the comments under todays blind item!!

Tempestuous Grape said...

@anita_mark lol, I hear you. I'm a really big fan I'd say. They have some really good rockin' songs! Their album Swoon is the least sleepiest I'd say.

DontRainOnMyPrada said...

I think he got away with this a lot more easily in his youth, but now that he's older and kinda fug, he's having to resort to desperate tactics and it was bound to come to light at some point.

urban chaos said...

Aside from the fact that he's looking a bit 'bear'ish here, if these allegations are true they have everything to do with the entitlement celebrity breeds and how some take it too far in the wrong direction.

When the evidence sorts itself out I hope that if found guilty he's punished fully and not given a celeb sentence.

Lizzie said...

Pure and simple, it's sexual assault, and if guilty, he should go to jail!!!! I'm so sick of people making excuses for a celebrity's bad behavior. Sick of it!!!

RenoBlondee said...

I'm sad if all this is true because I was a real fan of his. Always loved him and rooted for him. I just have a bad feeling about this. Like that tweet said, Where there's smoke, there's fire.

angie said...

You have to consider each case in context. Obviously, someone who subjects another to advances they are too young or too weak to fend off is a predator whether satisfaction is obtained or not.

I just can't try and convict someone in my mind as an actual PREDATOR strictly on the basis of allegations from masseurs who either advertise their services on Craigslist or accept large financial payouts from gossip rags.

car54 said...

This seems like the behavior of someone who either thinks they are untouchable or who wants to get caught.

Danica said...

I'm shocked it took this long for more people to come forward about JT. This is absolutely public information around Los Angeles. He hit on my friend TWICE when he was in his "latin" fetish phase (circa 10 yrs ago). He is absolutely, 100% gay.

It's no secret that Scientology provides a "safe haven" for this type of closeted celeb behavior. The religion also promises to cure you of homosexuality... all the while making you spill your darkest secrets during auditing so you can never leave the institution.

Ingrid Superstar said...

He looks like Perry Saturn in that picture.

Hendrix said...

Common knowledge in Hollywood for decades, loves, and there have been others in the past who were not happy about JT's advances. Who knows whether they were bought off or scared off from making complaints? Gay or straight, this kind of behavior is predatory but too often is given a pass if it is a powerful man dong the haraassing. I'd like to see this much fuss about all the straight assholes pulling this crap with female masseuses, maids, waitresses, personal trainers, production assistants, etc.etc.

supapimp said...

JT said he wasn't gay until he had to do the casting couch for gigs.

Alicia said...

+1

Robert said...

@figgy: Amen!

Anotheramy said...

Sigh, I thought everyone knew this about him. He is hardly the only one behaving badly. Usually its the men assaulting the women.

Agent**It said...

Radar now reporting a 3rd man has come forward-a former Royal Caribbean cruise ship employee. Not looking good.

Shit You Can't Buy said...

For those interested, Himmmmm says the story about Travolta is true in the comments for the sextape-blind!

Maja With a J said...

@Megley - I think there might be something to your theory. Interesting.

Del Riser said...

I've long heard that John was miserable in his current life situation. I think he might have come out after Jet died, but Kelly announced her pregnancy and that ended that.

I think he just wants out of everything, the CO$, the marriage, the closet, everything.

If he's always been sexually aggressive when it wasn't wanted, he's not a good guy. If it's recent, I'd think it was a product of the tangled mess he's gotten himself into. It doesn't make him a good guy though.

This is not going to be pretty, and a lot of men I know who don't read this site, or aren't into gossip, will be really shocked.

AB said...

I think JT loves hitting on straight guys otherwise he would limit himself to picking up guys in gay bars or holing up in hotels with young hottie rent boys.

It's not like there aren't enough young guys running around hollywood who would hook up with him for thrills or connections. He likes the danger and the bullying and the wondering whether he can manneuver the straight guy into a thing. Please. He is not the sweet goofball or the sexy machoguy that he puts over on the public. He is a jerk and apparent sex-obsessed troller of men. He can't be the brightest bulb in the world anyway with falling into the arms of COS and blathering away about L Ron and his brilliance. Remember that sci fi movie John starred in promoted by Scientology? Really bad career move there!

And his handing of Jett's issues was dispicable. Not. A. Good. Guy.

MadLyb said...

C'mon John. Come out of that nasty CO$ closet, tell Xenu to go eff itself, and start living. I think the vast majority are rooting for you. Pay these guys off and come out in the open.

DontRainOnMyPrada said...

Coming out is not going to change his behavior, which is obviously some fetish. Unfortunately it is a fetish that harms others

MnGddess said...

I love the people who thinks HMMMM knows every single person in Hollywood....

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