Monday, December 18, 2017

Today's Blind Items - The Monster Icon

This foreign born permanent A list entertainer has always had a shadowy reputation.   Back in the day, he capitalized on it and it was part of his image.  We'll call him Mr. C.  What most people may not realize is that our entertainer's dark side wasn't just for publicity, it's really who he is.  But to understand this, we have to look way back at Mr. C's childhood.  He grew up in a different time and was exposed to some graphic life experiences that many of us can't imagine.  Mr. C had a very dark side from a young age, and many kids in the neighborhood where he grew up quickly learned that he was a strange and twisted individual.  Animals in the neighborhood kept disappearing and the kids our entertainer was alone with frequently suffered from unusual injuries.  One story that has been told involved another boy. He and Mr. C were playing with plastic swords and somehow the other boy found himself stabbed through the eye with Mr. C's sword.  Of course at the time, this was assumed to be an unintentional freak accident between two boys.  The injured boy spent months in the hospital and lost his eye as a result.  This is one of the many stories that have floated around about our entertainer and his growing up years.  It got even more interesting when Mr. C got into his teen years and began attracting girls.  He had a strange personal magnetism and although not conventionally handsome, could get girls to do pretty much whatever he wanted from a young age.  This caused problems and at several points in his early teen years, police became involved due to complaints from the parents of neighborhood girls.  There is also the story of the teenage girl, from Mr C's neighborhood, who died suspiciously.  The death was eventually ruled a suicide, but chatter among the old 'hood has been filled for years with speculation that it was a sex game gone wrong or murder or both. Much has been written about Mr. C over the years and writers and filmmakers have attempted to talk to people in Mr. C's old neighborhood about his childhood.  Old friends have been approached, and some of the responses have been dubious or the people just flat out refused to talk at all about our entertainer at all.   The dubious responses, of course, were never published. 

As he got older and became involved in the entertainment business, Mr. C's tendencies were actually in demand by many of those in power.  Our entertainer would do anything, no matter how deviant, with anyone, to further his success.  The more twisted, the better.  During those years, media was not what it is today, so it was much easier to operate in the shadows with these tendencies and not be exposed.  Mr. C's debauched and deviant lifestyle continued in the extreme as he became wealthier and more famous.  His proclivities were an open secret and in some circles, the behavior was praised, encouraged and admired.  As mass media has became the norm, Mr C. has had to ramp down his activities considerably, after several close calls with the police.  Recently, an acclaimed investigative Journalist was approached by an individual with information about Mr C and his activities. The rumor is that the source is alleging that Mr C's pattern of travel to a number of cities many years ago corresponds to the disappearances of young women in those same cities.  The source of this information has also told the Journalist that they attempted to bring these alleged connectionis knowledge to the attention of the authorities, and were brushed off as a crackpot.  This source even tried to bring Mr C's past reputation and activities to the attention of a prestigious organization that was honoring him a few years ago, and they ignored the information also.  Due to all the recent sex predators being exposed, Mr. C is on alert and is looking to cover his tracks.  Lots of checks are being written to silence people.  Watch for some diversionary gestures soon as clues.  The Journalist is also pursuing this story hard right now because coincidentally, someone he knows also had a very frightening encounter with Mr. C. years ago.  If anything is uncovered, this story is going to be huge.

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Lissy Loo said...

My first thought was Jack Nicholson but he was born in New Jersey

lutefisk said...

Mary, he was my first thought but then I thought he was too easy and also besides being a Holocaust survivor there was nothing said about him being abusive as a child. I think time-wise he would fit. If anything he was known to be very charming.

lucy said...

I think simmons is best guess so far as he's (sorry) ugly as blind eludes to and definitely an icon and kiss had album "monster" he just seems too obvious! and what's with all the shadow speak and Mr "C" has to be able to fit. we need someone older and more obscure. an older more obscure icon lol

wehateeverything said...

Hello, first time commentator and long time lurker....
but feel i need to interject with refuting some guesses above

Jimmy Page is on the Aspergers spectrum. He actually is a nice guy but does prefer younger ladies (we all know the stories of him in the 70s like has been said it was a different time and groupies were a different type of girl). I'm not excusing it but none of the women he's been with were there against their will!
defo NOT Ozzy he's a pussycat and a massive animal lover. I know this as my ex was the Osbournes neighbour in Bucks UK. Had many a catch up with Sharon (who is a firecracker and defo in charge) and Ozzy who is barely functioning as a human let alone an adult.
Definitely not Alice Cooper he is a sweetheart! Full stop! Wonderful human being and everyone should be more like him! He's also a massive workaholic!
Plantey is an egocentric dick but not someone who is a dark sided deviant! He lost his son and its changed him forever!
I think you're all on the wrong track with a musician. Enty would say musician but entertainer means someone perhaps old school who traverses the triple threat field actor/singer/dancer and I'd include presenter for that too. Someone who does comedy, hosts shows generally 'Entertains'!
I also think plastic sword is a huge clue! We should be looking at someone from around 30 years ago. Plastic toys were abundant in the 80s but also the media wasn't as insane as it is now.
There are also clues to people expected him to behave a certain way (his tendancies were in demand) it made his career means that this person made a career out of being unnaturally mean or horrible to people.
Perhaps entertainer means SIMON COWELL! Mr C = COWELL. `And i f*cking hate that massive douchebag!

Unknown said...

Keanu Reeves ( Beirut, Lebanon). Roman Polanski, M Night Shyamalan, Hugh Laurie (Not shadowy/not perm A, though), Jeremy Irons, Omar Sharif,

Unknown said...

Gene Simmons is all about money. he's pure capitalist. IF he can make money from it, he will.
he's the Demon in KISS, (along with a cat a starman and spaceman, 2 others later after various member changes)
he would fit in perfectly in Hollywood power-circles. Since hes all about the pussy (to the public). In other words , technically he could be, the worlds most famous pimp for hollywood elite.
There is no shortage of women throwing themselves at him (according to him) but it doesnt take much convincing. Everyone knows that people throw themselves at actors/musicians/directors.
the song Plaster Caster is about group of women (groupies) who would fuck famous musicians and make casts of their penis. peni? penises??

Someone posted he's a tea tottler (it's true he follows the comandment in the old testament about keeping his temple pure) but owns a bar. cos MONEY. to give an idea how serious he is about making money, he would sell dog turds if he could find a way for it to be profitable.

Foreign born, check.
Bad boy persona, BIG check.
Do pretty much anything for money, check.
Skeletons in the closet. probably, and they would be very well hidden.
Able to get away with anything? possibly.

Is he the blind, probably. but I wont say yes cos hes Jewish and that would make me anti-semite to all the SJW's.

mañana-life said...

Jim Carrey - every detail fits - he has a dark reputation out of the limelight.

Do Tell said...

Polanski is considered a director, not an entertainer. This is likely talking about a singer, musician or actor.

Unknown said...

Joaquin Phoenix, Mel Gibson (not shadowy),Eric Clapton, Kiefer Sutherland,

Unknown said...

I want to say Suge Knight... Is he foreign born? Canadian???

Mark said...

@Nrg Iseternal, interesting. Mr C(urry) is a nice darkhorse entry. Lifetime Tony in 2015, Rocky Horror, ... God only knows what kind of things went down at theatrical parties in the 70s. Well, maybe Satan knows too.

Joshua said...

Love Tim Curry to pieces but can't imagine him being considered A list.

Do Tell said...

@icecream, you don't have to worry about being called a racist or an antisemite as long as you're not saying racist/antisemitic things, pushing offensive and inaccurate stereotypes, or trying to pin all the bad behavior on a specific ethnic or religious group, when there is more than enough evidence to show that it is coming from many types of people.

You haven't done any of that.

;) said...

There are a lot of good guesses but most don’t fit with all the clues. (including all mine)
- Monster
- shadowy reputation
- foreign born
- graphic life experiences
- prestigious organization that was honoring him
- this story is going to be huge.

Is there a celeb who’s old friends and neighbors refuse to talk about him?

Unknown said...

I think if the person has been nominated for an academy award. ( Polansky) it is mentioned in the blind.

Ta dah! said...

Cher dated Gene Simmons following Sonny's death. She said, because he was on the road so much, he never had a steady girlfriend, and that he was dark and complicated, but generally, said only nice things. She also said she didn't care if he was faithful or not and she wasn't looking for anything serious, so it's not like she crowded him a whole lot.

Unknown said...

This one is fascinating and disturbing. Criss Angel is a native New Yorker, so it can't be him. I keep thinking Gene Simmons is too obvious. I hate to say it, but Penn Jillette was my first thought given the word entertainer, but he's American born as well.

Unknown said...

007

Unknown said...

I am liking the Christopher Lee guess:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/io9.gizmodo.com/22-incredible-facts-about-the-life-and-career-of-sir-ch-1710917366/amp

;) said...

People are also forgetting Permanent A List

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Snappy Dragon said...

I'm thinking Rob Zombie his last name is Cummings but he not foreign born and
I cant find any childhood info on him.

Janet Elizabeth Swainston said...

I think you guys have the wrong era...I think it might be someone like Tom Jones...he has done some acting, singing, all round entertainer, he has a bad rep, really suave with the ladies, comes from a time period before we had papparazzi and the internet and cell phones...his dark past would have been easy to hide....using "Mr. C" could be a red herring ... it's just my theory.

Ur girl herel said...

Jim cary

AIP said...

I know the Elephant pretty well, and if you’re from there, it actually wasn’t the worst and was still pretty tight knit until very recently. Caine is a legend to all the former Heygate Estate (rip) people, especially for Harry Brown.

;) said...

I like the Tom Jones guess but would he have been up for anytime of an award lately? Maybe an OBE?

Glitter said...

No, not Tom Jones. Never. I refuse to accept that.

Glitter said...

As I was re reading the clues, I wonder if it could be some sort of porn actor. It said his twisted tendencies were in demand.

Peeka said...

Actually, his birth name is John Michael Osbourne...I named my son after him

AIP said...

If the clues were different (referencing an incident when he was 9), then I’d be full sure that this was Gérard Depardieu. Although he is arguably one of the greatest actors ever, (come at me bro if you don’t believe me), he’s an awful human being.

Otherwise, I’ll go with Crowley Mk 2 himself, Jimmy Page.

AuthorEdA said...

To be different, what about Christopher Plummer? He is in the news lately for replacing Kevin Spacey in All The Money in The World. He's Canadian (Foreign born), permanent A list thanks to Sound of Music. Few stories online about his childhood. Steadily built his acting career, has also sang (Entertainer). And he has admitted to being attracted to teenagers in the past.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/christopher-plummer-kevin-spacey-memoir_us_5a15951fe4b03dec824975f2

Danielle said...

Someone asked but no one answered. What is the Sambora blind?

Shawny said...

Russel brand

AppleThief4Elliot said...

I don't think Tom Jones has particularly revealed a dark side.
And for the final time, in no world is Cris Angel permanent A-list.

Mag said...

I don't think the childhood part fits for Polański at all. He was born in France, and his parents returned to Poland when he was three. When he was six, WWII rboke out in Poland and the entire family was put in the Cracow ghetto. By the time he escaped, he was already 10 or 11. Most people who can remember him from pre-teen childhood would be Jews from the Cracow ghetto. Given that only about a thousand people survided and 16 thousand were killed (his mother included), finding such childhood "witnesses" would be quite a fit. Not to mention that I honestly doubt anyone would call a Nazi-run ghetto a "hood".
And he wasn't honored by any imporant organization recently, especially not an American one ;)

But I agree with those who think this must be a person in their 80s, somebody who lived in WWII.

Unknown said...

"shadowy reputation" "part of his image"
"dark side wasn't just for publicity"

It's not someone we think may have a dark side. It's someone who was commonly known or thought to have a dark side and played it up for publicity. Dark enough that people thought it was at least partially an act, but it wasn't. Michael Caine, for instance, may have a dark side, but that's not his reputation.

;) said...

Could "dark side" be referring to Star Wars?

Jamie Bailey said...

Bare with me for a moment. Would duel citizenship qualify for Foreign born? If so I’ve got a wild theory..
when I put “Monster Icon of entertainment” into google the first real hit came back with this: “Frankenstein: how a monster became an Icon.”
So of course I looked into who has played Frankenstein’s monster over the years..
Mr. C could stand for a famous Character played by the entertainer. If so Vito Corleone was certainly a career defining role. In 2016 he was awarded the nations highest civilian honor with the presidential freedom award. I’m hoping I’m completely off base here..

Doug said...

This is a fascinating blind. If it's true, not fictional or full of "red herrings". There are many clues, and again if they are not intentionally inaccurate, a lot of the guesses don't fit. I keep thinking about the "not conventionally handsome" part. A lot of the guesses are guys who were sufficiently good-looking as younger men for that clue not to apply. But in addition to the various clues, the blind has a general feel to it that makes some of the guesses unlikely. "If anything is uncovered, this story is going to be huge."

How shocking would it be if Gene Simmons were revealed to be this person? Not much, to me. I don't know a lot about him, but even if Enty considers him a permanent A-lister, he's not one in my mind. Kiss's music is useless. It's not music at all, to quote Chopin after he looked at a particular score by Schumann. And Simmons is just visibly a complete jerk.

The hugeness of this story coming out sounds like it would disappoint many people. Even if the entertainer's image is "dark", there are some like that who people absolutely love. They think it's either comical or "cool".

With Jimmy Page, it's cool. But he wasn't bad-looking, and @Dan's comment (among others) raises good questions about how well Page fits the blind.

The Pete Townsend guess is intriguing. I guess it would be pretty huge, but maybe not quite huge enough. And I'm not sure how "dark" his public image has been. Maybe a little, with the smashing of guitars and so on, but not much.

With Mick Jagger, I think people find the darkness cool at times but perhaps most of all mischievous and funny. Seems to me that even his most ardent fans ought to be able to look at the pictures and see that he has never been conventionally handsome. If it emerged that this blind is about Jagger, I'd say it would be huge.

I do think it would be worthwhile to look beyond actors and musicians, but I wouldn't rule them out. It might have been necessary to use the word "entertainer" so as to prevent everyone from figuring it out right away (if ever).

Mag said...

@Doug +100

Do Tell said...

The best part about opinions is that they are completely subjective.

joshg g said...

Won Cesar Award 2014, Europian Film Award 2010. Not sure how prestigious, but they count for something.

Dorvannnn said...

This is probably a wild guess, but how about the Amazing Randi James Randi?
though describing him as permanent A list might be a stretch.

Dorvannnn said...

I just thought of another long shot possibility - Max von Sydow.

Bidenema said...

Suuuure u can..evidence?

Mag said...

@joshg g - Prestigious enough, but these are not honours, these are competition awards (like Oscars). He got them for his movies, not as eg. lifetime achievement awards. There is no way whatsoever for anyone other then jury members to know who will win, adn the misterious source clearly knew this person was to be honoured and tried to stop it by providing this info.

Also, despite what ahppended and his reputation, Mia Farrow is - surprise, suprise - still close friends with him and is on record defending him int he press, even though she's so vocal on abuse. Go figure. So if the Journalist is Ronan Farrow, "someone he knows who had a terrible experince with the enterteiner long ago" could be his mother, but that would be terribly awkward.

Also, he never "capitalized on a dark image".

He's a creep and a rapist, but he just doesn't fit.

Unknown said...

Has to be Gene Simmins. Not handsome, but had a way with the ladies. He became involved with the entertainment business (he sells everything). And travelling to many cities (rock shows indifferent cities. Also, foreign born.

joshg g said...

It might be a BI about a musician who has 3 women living with him who worship him. 9/24/17. I don't think he fits though.

Dealeyplazamom said...

And a dove*

Unknown said...

Christopher Lee was my guess but apparently he passed away. But someone along the same lines, ie played a part that defined his persona or whatever perceived persona. I hate GS for this blind just because I hate him but he's such a nonpersona that he doesn't hit the A radar at all.

Mag said...

Sorry fot the typos, it's very late here in Europe and I need to go to sleep, but can't stop reading these comments ;)

Dealeyplazamom said...

He bit the head off of a bat that he thought was fake. The dove was alive and intentional. However, there is no theory under which this is about Ozzy. None of the details are Ozzy related. 110/%

Bidenema said...

Just the fact you used "rolling stone"as a journalistic source(unless u raped 5 ppl in the last 24 hrs and dont know it yet)shows ur rabbit

Unknown said...

I just noticed it says the travel with the disappearing women was "many years ago." So he doesn't have to be spry enough for that kind of thing today, or even be traveling anymore. On the other hand, plastic toys weren't likely before 1950, so I'd put his max age at under 80.

test said...

Roger Waters ("dark side" = Dark Side of the Moon)?

Dorvannnn said...

Here's another long shot possibility and I'm loathe to even suggest it
But how about William Shatner? The prestigious organization could be NASA giving him Distinguished Public Service Medal in 2014. The shadowy dark side could be Captain Kirk's reputation as a womanizer.

Unknown said...

Sorry, I've had a few too many. I'd delete but I always wonder wtf the person said and then felt the need to delete it 10 mins later or whatever. Like, wtf? Ahoo

Doug said...

@Mag, thanks for the +s. This one is worth the sleep-deprivation, no?

I'm now thinking about Mick Jagger and the deaths of Brian Jones and L'Wren Scott. For now I'm agnostic as to whether the official stories are true. And without looking it up, I don't know of any other prominent deaths of people connected to Jagger. And not implying that these are relevant to the blind, but who knows?

Freckles said...

Jimmie Page and his Alistair Crowley obsession

Fozzy Bear said...

If this helps, Enty's A-D list (from 2014) has three listings for "Permanent A list entertainer" that are foreign-born:
Elton John
Mick Jagger
Sting

Bono and Russell Brand are also listed as "A list entertainer", but not as "permanent"

Ozzy Osbourne and Robbie Williams are both listed as "Former A list entertainer"

To me, the key to deducing the identity seems to be the story of the plastic sword, because that story "has been told".

TMN said...

I'm still on the fence between Simmons and Page for this, but I don't know enough about either. The Simmons stories posted here have certainly been gross and a real eye-opener. As someone who was a kid in the KISS era, I can vouch that they were HUGE. Here's some more stories about Page. These are pretty gross too.

GoogleSleuth said...

I think this is an excellent guess.

Terry Teratoma said...

I've read all the comments, have googled entertainers who've recently won prestigious awards, entertainers who stabbed someone in the eye, entertainers with whispers of violence around/about them... everything I've been able to think of to google, I've googled it. I am at a total loss. I don't think it's Simmons, though he is a well known dick. I'd agree with Jimmy Page, because he once kidnapped a girl, has had plenty of pedophilia rumours about him, and I'd consider him permanent A list since Led Zeppelin is definitely a permanent A list band. But I just don't feel it. I can't see Tim Curry, since he's pretty much incapacitated now and probably not running around trying to shut anyone up.

So...I don't know. But I am DYING for someone to get this. Pleasepleaseplease ;)

Unknown said...

Ozzy just doesn't strike me as an evil guy, but he did kill the birds, bat and, if memory serves, shoot his first wife's Thelma's cats, like 17 of them. Animal abuse absolutely is found in serial killers and the like. But I don't think it's him. And he lives in a house with a wife and daughter who are animal people. Enty re-tweeted someone asking if it was Simmons. His response was whosever it is was mind blowing. If that's a hint, I'm back to cOpperfield or Angel, but they're American. Jimmy Page was said to be in to serious S&M, etc. If it's Simmons, that is mind blowing. Whoever must be outed since they're a serial killer!

Unknown said...

And KISS was inducted to Rock and Roll Hall of Fame a few years ago.

Dorvannnn said...

If the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame stopped inducting musicians who were assholes or perverts, they wouldn't have many candidates left.

Spanky said...

It's Malcom McDowell. Eccentric roles like Caligula, A Clockwork Orange, etc. Mr C. = Caligula. The Monster Icon is a play on this article: http://blog.cadenbach.com/malcolm-mcdowell-the-icon-in-the-flesh/. Tumultuous upbringing (check out IMDB). This one bugged me b/c everyone was thinking it was some metal/rock guys who are relatively decent (Ozzy, Alice Cooper). PS: Plastics became widespread in the '50's, so he would have had access to a plastic sword. Also got a star on the Hollywood WOF a few years back.

;) said...

Gene Simmons "Before his musical career began, Simmons worked a variety of jobs in the city. An "excellent typist", he served as an assistant to an editor of the fashion magazine Vogue, and also spent several months as a sixth grade instructor on the Upper West Side."

Doesn't sound too dark.

Unknown said...

@test
Roger Waters dark side is hes a control freak when it comes to his music, and a total disenfranchised view of the music industry.

he puts is all out there for everyone to see in the music he made.
see 'Have a Cigar' about music execs trying to control the band.
see 'the (almost) entire wall and darkside albums'.

he earned his 'grizzle guts' nickname from Gilmore, Mason and Wright.


Jimmy Page could fit the blind. Well known apostle (believer and teacher) of the self proclaimed Beast (yeah the 666 one in the bible) Alister Crowley, whose teachings (including blood magic) are the basis of the Satanic bible published by (another crowley nutter) Anton Levay.
"do as thou wilt, that is the whole of the law" in laymans terms 'do whatever the hell you want'
[someone posted that the Crowley/Satanist followers are non violent, which is absolute horseshit. their thelema is all about doing whatever you want, period. Every non believer is persona non grata, and can be treated any way you see fit]

Don't ever make fun of Alister Crowley in Pages presence.. you will incur a wrath most foul.
Especially if the rumors to do with Eddie and the Hotrods is to be believed. They went from an up and coming band, to nobodies after they did a song called 'do anything you wanna do' with crowley on the cover (wearing mickey mouse ears).
Rumor is Page took deep offence, and cursed them. Immediately the band had trouble after trouble after trouble. 2 dead members later and a heroin addicted manager.

for those interested, listen to https://youtu.be/IXpEtF4i1oI?t=30
The song according to Page, was written in the space of an hour @ the Crowley mansion after being startled awake from a dream.
The 'shed' out the back is where Crowley did his magics, orgies, sacrifices etc.

Joshua said...

@spanky McDowell being A list is a stretch.

PotPourri said...

I'm really confused. I don't think it's Gene Simmons, nor Ozzy Osborne. I understand that they are macabre, but it really does feel like all showmanship...Alice Cooper has never felt like showmanship.

Stop mentioning Criss Angel...he's too damn young and he's not even a B-.

Bleu said...

Jimmy Page. Daily Mail reported a decade ago ("Led Zeppelin: The Real Monsters of Rock") that Page was rumored to travel with a suitcase of whips and favor dressing in Nazi uniforms at sex clubs etc.

;) said...

I have seen the documentary It is Going to Get Loud. Awesome by the way. Page comes across as very affable. I don't get evil vibes from him. Not the type to be a murderer. Having an interest in the occult doesn't mean you do evil things.

Daniel Heneghan said...

If it's Gene Simmons then KISS is truly a sick band because he was the sanest one out of that group of misfits.

Doug said...

I'll add the comment that Gene Simmons is too pragmatically selfish to risk imprisonment for anything. And he would probably not be spared by the higher-ups from it, because he's such a jerk. I can imagine that Jagger would be spared, as he was and is well-connected among the British elites. London School of Economics, knighted by the royal family, and so on.

Bleu said...

No Jimmy Page, who bought Crowley's mansion and has a fetish where he dressed up as German SS with emblems and hat and jack boot at sex clubs (and on stage) and was rumored to travel with suitcase of whips. Icon. Called a monster.

Kristin said...

Mark Wahlberg? Not foreign born, so maybe not. Fits with dark childhood and tough guy image, and in particular the story about the guy losing his eye...

Mark said...

Since guessing is free, Jackie Chan.

Bidenema said...

Foghorn Leghorn..cant ever trust a Yuge rooster

just sayin' said...

i'm converted to jimmy page. "his proclivities were an open secret and in some circles , the behavior was praised, encouraged and admired". who in show biz fits that better?

page is a perfect person for ronan farrow to investigate at this point. farrow was on colbert recently discussing the weinstein story, and the band plays led zeppelin's "the ocean" as his intro music. insider joke?

just sayin' said...

also for jimmy page, his "tendencies were actually in demand by many of those in power". this easily takes us back to powerful men in showbiz and the insatiable desire for young sex partners. record company execs calling on a rock star to procure young girls to share with them at orgies, etc.

SkittleKitty said...

Tim Curry is in a wheelchair. Don’t know that he would be concerned about or with this.
“In June 2012, Curry suffered a major stroke. As a result of the stroke, he now uses a wheelchair.”

just sayin' said...

an interview forbes magazine did with jimmy page prior to his receipt of an honorary doctorate from the berklee college of music:
Jimmy Page's Stairway to Business Heaven

Unknown said...

Maybe Billy Idol? Seems like Page or Simmons tho. 2017 was the year of Defecating on your childhood notions of heroes. As if to say, don't have idols-kids!

nantares said...

Agreeing with all who said Jimmy Page - foreign-born from a different time, not conventionally handsome (sorry, Jimmy), an entertainer (so can't be described specifically as a singer or an actor). The shadowy reputation fits, with his well-known fascination with the dark side of the occult, especially Alistair Crowley (Mr. C.). Page even owned Crowley's Boleskine estate for a while. He's also known for being into bdsm. If I'm remembering right, Pamela Des Barre wrote in "I'm with the Band" that she once saw a whip in Page's suitcase. And along with the Kennedy Honors, he also received an OBE several years back. If I'm understanding that right, that's essentially the same thing as being knighted. I'm convinced this is him.

just sayin' said...

maybe a stretch, but enty replies to a tweet about this blind today by saying it's "mind-blowing". mind-blowing is an expression associated with lsd, and led zeppelin are considered to be "acid rock".

i'd be willing to bet that colbert's band chose the zeppelin song "the ocean" as ronan farrow's intro because colbert asked him off camera what he's working on next and farrow said jimmy page. case closed, haha. talk amongst yourselves.......

just sayin' said...

one last thing on jimmy page...in the forbes article above, page talks about how he's intentionally avoided doing interviews to cultivate a mysterious persona.

Joseph P Blow, Kokomo PD said...

Off topic but Aleister Crowley was drug-addled charlatan, pure and simple. A man who once claimed to have made himself invisible because he walked down a London street noticing that no one looked at nor spoke to him, and liked to played dress up in robes and ridiculously stupid looking hats that would make Gandalf look like the pinnacle of restraint and sensibility (google image him and have a good laugh at the "scary Mr. Crowley"). A ne'er do well member of the British ruling class at the height of Empire who needed a meal ticket for himself and his equally strung out wife so he did what countless other mountebanks throughout history have done and created an alternative religion with a whole hell of a lot in common with all the other religions it insufferably mocked. An open and shut case of a fairly intelligent yet supremely over privileged asshole with unwarranted esteem for himself who incorrectly assumed his ideas were worth sharing and that they might distract from what he was really after, ie. to fuck literally and figuratively a bunch of other likeminded fools with too much money and time on their hands. Surprise surprise he accepted cash and property donations while encouraging his followers to take part in his black masses, part orgy and part community theatre. The fact that jimmy page seems to be so taken with Crowley basically rules him out for this blind because you'd need at least average smarts in order to evade capture and prosecution for the alleged crimes mentioned therein for this long.

Esmerelda said...

Santa!

Count Jerkula said...

Blind is obviously about Paul McCartney or Bryan Adams. Maybe Baryshnikov.

Million to one shots: Abdullah the Butcher, Bruno Sammartino, or Mil Mascaras, WWE HOF being the organization to honor them.

MissD said...

Christian Bale for Mr.C anyone?

Lots of rumors about him being a bit too similar to his Bateman character irl.

Also foreign born, probably permanent A list because of his stint as Batman. Although I'm not too sure about the childhood neighborhood description since it says on his wiki that he moved around a lot growing up.

Count Jerkula said...

Iron Sheik is another outside possibility, but he don't seem rapey. He's been known to hit a ring rat w/ a short arm clothesline if they don't want to put out after he's drugged em up.

amused bush said...

@Mary, Polanski came to my mind as well.

nicktf said...

Haha, you guys! Loving all the Jimmy Page stuff - he grew up in leafy Epsom (quite the "Hood"!) in a comfortably English middle class environment, and was childhood pals with Jeff Beck, both of whom were sufficiently obsessed with guitar to become incredibly proficient by their mid-teens (perhaps leaving time for a spot of animal abduction? Who knows!!). Both went on to play in the Yardbirds and before he was 20, Page was well known as an in demand session guitarist in swinging London, often playing 2-3 sessions a day before forming Zeppelin in 1968 (after a stint replacing Beck in the Yardbirds). Zep toured constantly, both the US and Europe to build up a following (and a sizeable list of groupies, both of age and sadly not).

There's never been a whiff of him going after men, for that matter. As for the pattern of touring cities, for many of Zeppelin's tours, they would base themselves in one city and fly in, perform, then return rather than stay over, so not a lot of time for serial killing, one would imagine

Gripped by heroin and down to about 90lbs in the mid 70s (the Nazi uniform was a one time only stage outfit), I really don't see him as a calculating serial killer. He's not owned the Crowley house for decades (it actually burned down a couple of years ago), instead lives in the very cool Tower House in London, previously owned by the equally notorious Richard Harris

Not buying Page. Townshend also lead an equally grueling life on the road, and was excruciatingly up front about his affairs on the road in his recent Autobio (which is a great listen on Audible, BTW).

Plant? Nah. He's a music-loving hippie.

modsquad said...

I'll go out on a limb and say the "Mr." part of this blind is the false trail.

Charlize Theron.

modsquad said...

...if it is a guy, Schwarzenegger.

Unknown said...

I wondered about Manson too. I've loved his music for years, but my friend drove him years ago and said he had some young guy with him and it was creepy, as in like underaged vibe. But that's not for sure the kid was underaged.

Itttt said...

Someone mentioned Kelsey Granmer. While I can’t align the permanent A list entertainer, he did also play the role of the X-Men’s Beast in the 3rd X-Men movie. Not necessarily a monster icon though.

Mike said...

I'm not buying Jimmy Page. He seems too much an introvert to be continuing to get into trouble right up to the present, and also to have traded on his "proclivities" to get ahead. Jimmy Page got ahead first as a talented, in-demand studio musician. The subject of the blind sounds like a shmoozer, an operator, and someone who is still in the celebrity limelight, since the blind says mass media forced him to lay low. Jimmy Page is never in the news except in relation to some re-release of Zeppelin material or possible reunion with Robert Plant. Nobody has been covering his personal life since the 70s.

I don't know who it is. Gene Simmons seems the best guess so far. He still pushes himself into the celebrity and gossip feed, doing radio interviews, etc.

I was also considering Guillermo del Toro, but I'm not sure a director counts as an entertainer. His movies are more well known than he himself is as a personality. He did make creepy movies as a child, including one where his own mother is murdered.

Unknown said...

Just throwing it out there, but could it be David Blaine, he seems kinda.......odd

Unknown said...

My post aren't working, apologies if I've doubled up.

Throwing David Blaine into the pot, or (I can't believe I'm saying it) Stephen King?

Buddytesla said...

The problem with Page here is that he was practically an invalid as an adolescent, (it’s why he started playing the guitar) and was considered good looking by a lot of women. Also, “foreign born” seems to suggest that the person lives in the USA now, and Page doesn’t.

sexsi said...

Underaged children cannot consent, dude. It doesn't matter how "innocent" you think she was, she didn't deserve to be sexually exploited. Teenagers are still developing their brains, they make bad decisions all of the fucking time. The onus falls on the adults to not sleep with children.

I can't believe this still needs to be said in the year 2000 + 10 + 7

The Mrs. said...

Alice is a notoriously good man.

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PotPourri said...

Eric Clapton? I've never cared for him, but he's definitely got a mean streak...

Count Jerkula said...

Rosie Pig: like selling drugs to college girls, then sexually abusing them while they are too impaired to consent?

The Mrs. said...

Thank you! Back when we were asked which three famous people we would want to have dinner with he was one of mine! NO WAY IS THIS HIM!! Been driving me nuts seeing his name over and over again. Lol!

The Mrs. said...

I def think it's Simmons... he used to vomit fake blood on stage... his dark persona was real and in demand? Matches perfectly with the evil cesspool Hollywood is.

Unknown said...


Pete Townsend was embroiled in a child porn thing about a decade ago.
He found, and bought child porn. This was to apparently prove the banks were complicit in channel money for paedo rings.

look that one up, and see where your eyebrows go.

Cadmium77 said...

@Mary, Polanski was the first to come to my mind when I read the blind too, but hearing everyone talk of Simmons and Page made me drop that.

Polanski is a complex character and even his theatrical victimhood after Sharon Tate's murder was criticized at the time, particularly his willingness to pose in the blood drenched house for magazine photographers.

Charlie Manson was often asked what he would do if released from prison and his reply was always "get Polanski". There are many theories about the hows and whys of why the Manson family chose their victims or even knew where they lived. Did Manson have personal dealings with Roman, providing him with young Manson Family girls for his parties?

Simmons is odious but hardly A list
Page was weird and amoral, standing over John Bonham as he died, chanting Satanic incantations over his dead body, but he just doesn't seem as twisted and...well I just read about the pretty red head groupie tied to a bed and the mud shark.

Meh...

The entertainment biz...

AIP said...

@Dorvannnn, is James Randi known for his “dark persona” though? Gay serial killers are rare, but gay serial killers that target females are exceptionally so.
Although his husband was pretty young when they met, they’ve been together for about 30 years.

Count Jerkula said...

Cadmium: that was just Mansom popping the rubes. He was said to have told someone in the past that he told Tex to take the girls and copycat the Hinman murder. Tex asked where he shluld take em, so Charlie said something along the lines of, "i dont know, somewhere like Melcher's neighborhood," and dumb ass Tex went right to the house.

Alexandria said...

I went through every "iconic entertainers" list that I found on google lol, and so far I can't find better fit than Gene Simmons. Looks like entertainer=musician.

http://www.metalblast.net/blog/top-5-reasons-why-gene-simmons-is-a-piece-of-shit/

"In his NPR interview, discount Bond villain Gene Simmons made it clear: Money is the most important thing in his life. He stressed that for him music was “to get laid and make lots of money”.

If he was desperate for money and success, he might have done a lot of fucked up things to achieve it.


just sayin' said...

+1 alexandria anna re gene simmons attitude about music. i read he hates music now because there's no money in it since people can download illegally. he says he's considering putting out a set with all of his unreleased songs and calling it "monster".

Glue said...

Could it be an athlete as in a boxer? "shadowy figure" / shadow boxing ?? I'm still grasping trying to figure this one out.

micmac said...

@Boo Hearne
It's not michael caine. I knew him & his wife.

Jim Corrigan said...

Simmons is the best bet. J Page and J Bardem are not bad bets. None of these match perfect. The sword incident should be the clincher, but can't find it anywhere.

Himmmm said...

Morrissey
(or maybe Rich Little).

I don't know how many facts fit who, and I'm not able to get on Wikipedia or even Google at the moment. But...you ever hear the song "Suffer Little Children"? Or his song "November Spawned a MONSTER"?

And it's a long shot but the Rich Little guess is only partially a joke. Because use of the term "Entertainer" brings to mind a COMIC or HOST. Someone who would tour. Aside from the fact they're dead, I'd guess Richard Pryor, Don Rickles, or someone like that. Maybe a host of a TV show who is still alive but not born in the USA? One who did stand up tours at some point?

Hate to admit it but my first guess was Sinatra (but he's born in NJ). He was the DEFINITION of an ENTERTAINER - so someone like that. He toured, acted, sang, hosted, did tv, film, radio - etc. So did Sammy Davis Jr. but he's dead too. SO I was thinking multi-talent entertainer. Who got Walk of Fame Stars recently? Or RRHoF? Or Kennedy Center Honors or OBE? (I know you guys mentioned those but that's a good list to choose too).

This is a tough Blind indeed. But the "dark" thing triggered Morrissey for me. Plus having seen his show recently at Hollywood Bowl, and the city of L.A. gave him all these honors, closing streets and "re-naming" a street for him, etc. Then he had a horrific interview where he defended abusers. So I'd guess for a living person? Either him or some old "host/comic" type entertainer from that older generation.

My guesses are as bad as yours, just throwing it out there.
(Sorry Enty - to besmirch your Royal Suedehead if I'm wrong!)
Whoever it is sounds like one seriously fucked-up slug. Which again, reminds me of Morrissey.

GeeWallyThatWouldBeWrong said...

Monster Icon is Anthony Hopkins.

Esmerelda said...

Ok, maybe Bad Santa? Mr. Claus? You'll shoot your eye out, kids will do anything for him, shadowy, covers his tracks...

Adrian Zmed said...

Jackie Chan? Daniel Craig?

just sayin' said...

esmerelda - billy bob does go nicely with the title "monster icon" ("monster's ball) and we had a blind that may've been about him on friday. enty's fond of layering blinds as he builds up to the worst dirt.

re "shadowy figure": jimmy plant goes with that. huge rock star who stayed in the background with an allure of mystery/dark arts. gene simmons was no shadowy figure, flamboyant, always in the spotlight.

still think that colbert's band playing led zeppelin's "ocean" as ronan farrow came out was a clue.

Starry-eyed said...

Bruce Dickinson (Iron Maiden) is an international fencer and had a pretty fucked life, though I can't imagine it being him. You can't always imagine it. These people can have split personalities.

http://loudwire.com/bruce-dickinson-life-lessons-corporal-punishment-culture-abuse-interview/

These other celebs fence too.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/celebs-who-fence

Not that they have to be a fencer, but makes you wonder.

Mark said...

Someone mentioned earlier, but I just went through 2014 A-D list and confirmed: only 3 foreign born permanent A-list entertainers are Mick Jagger, Elton John, and Sting. Many have guessed Jagger. Elton John would certainly be a surprise. So, I'll go with Sting, because he seems like a douche.

Starry-eyed said...

Also thought Anthony Hopkins. Troubled, isolated childhood. Played iconic monster. Known for having a temper.

He's also permanent A list because he has an OBE from the Queen.

"Hopkins has changed little since his time in Port Talbot. He is still a loner, taking long trips in his car by himself to relax."

"Hopkins is a recovering alcoholic; he has stayed sober since he stopped drinking just after Christmas 1975. In 2002, he told the New York Times that he woke up in a Phoenix hotel room with no memory of having driven from Los Angeles. "It was two days before his 38th birthday. Still, he continued to spiral downward, at times sitting at home for hours without saying a word. He'd climb in his car and cruise aimlessly for days: once he went on a drive and didn't return for two months. "If there is someone fighting within you, it makes your life unbearable," he said. "Anger has to be converted into something else or it destroys you."

Read more: http://www.notablebiographies.com/Ho-Jo/Hopkins-Anthony.html#ixzz51iJE0ZiK

http://www.notablebiographies.com/Ho-Jo/Hopkins-Anthony.html

just sayin' said...

where are all our luciferian/satanic cult conspiratorialists? it actually fits this blind if you're in the jimmy page camp. just because satanism doesn't work and isn't as highly organized (like 1,000s of years of phoenicians secretly ruling the world, lol) doesn't mean it isn't embraced by people like page who need a framework for acting out sick urges with others.

Starry-eyed said...

Hmmm no. Hopkins is too old to have played with plastic swords and seems too old.

Gene does fit better. He's A List because Kiss were HUGE and changed the shape of the entertainment industry.

GeeWallyThatWouldBeWrong said...

I am able to play monsters well. I understand monsters. I understand madmen.

--Anthony Hopkins

Do Tell said...

Again, Simmons is without a doubt A list for life. At this point he is an indelible part of pop culture, whether or not you listen to Kiss.

lutefisk said...

Jimmy Page was a child prodigy who appeared on tv at an early age. He was also considered quite good looking in his prime. Now he looks like the Quaker Oats guy. I think he was more into his guitar playing as a child.

Traveller said...

Has to be Roman, read his wiki childhood, worse than any of the other guesses. Plus fits other clues.

Traveller said...

Def Roman! Read his wiki page, esp childhood.

;) said...

Just watched the Colbert interview and who says they are playing "Ocean"? It kind of sounds like it but not really. Would the band be in on this info? Seems like a long shot.

Also I keep going back to "This story is going to be huge". Has to be a big star or legend with huge name recognition. Most people, especially under 40 would know who Jimmy Page is.

Monster Icon keeps making me think of someone involved with a monster movie.

Doug said...

@Mark, I agree that Sting is a douche. He fools a lot of people with his highbrow pose. Of those three on Enty's 2014 list, I think Jagger is the most likely. The Jimmy Page case has become pretty intriguing as well, though. Seems he's not on that list, but I think he should be.

@just sayin', you ask "where are all our luciferian/satanic cult conspiratorialists?" I was wondering where John Doe has been lately. I hope all is well with him and I always appreciate his comments.

SDaly said...

Earlier comment suggesting Uri Geller is a really good guess. Born in Israel, described as an "entertainer." He claims he worked for the CIA and touring was cover for CIA espionage work -- thus his tendencies were demanded by those in power.

Spanky said...

No way is it Jimmy Page (weird guy, but not a true sociopath) or Gene Simmons (semi-socially awkward despite his star status).

See my original post. MM is A list, physical description looks right, and has been in at least two "monster" movies (just Google it). When you look at his movies, one thinks, "no-one could be this shadowy/deviant in real life." But that's what the blind is getting at.

Mag said...


I'll be sorely disappointed if this turns out to be Simmons, as he's just too obvious. I'd actually love to be surprised even more than I was by some of the guesses. Like Mick Jagger surprised (although he doesn't really fit other than based on age, place of birth and rating, so it's probaby not him @Doug).

However, when the reveal comes - as I hope it will - oh, I'd love to be able to see the faces of some commenters here who claim that this is "definitely" this or that guy, just because they hate him or have no better idea ;)))

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GeeWallyThatWouldBeWrong said...

Plastic swords from the 50's

http://princevaliant.org/toys.html#Sword

Janet Elizabeth Swainston said...

I would like Anthony Hopkins except I wouldn't classify him as an "entertainer" ... he's just an actor

GingerGirl said...

I don't think this is Gene. He is devoted to his mother and his children which doesn't fit with the kind of personality described. He was very affable in his reality show. He constantly stated he was all about money, but in a very over the top way. I don't think his capitalist motivations make him a monster.

Hopkins would be interesting but would you really describe him as an entertainer?

I hate Polanski but again he would be labeled an Entertainer.

Bidenema said...

Foghorn Leghorn..cant ever trust a Yuge rooster

PurplePuffin said...

I think it's Gene Simmons. Jimmy Page is well known to have had a freaky past, but he doesn't fit a number of clues. He seems to have had a normal childhood and was not exposed to "some graphic life experiences that many of us can't imagine." To me, that sounds like holocaust-type stuff. Page was a kid who found a guitar at a house that his parents bought and he started playing the guitar. He was in skiffle groups as a kid, then a session guitarist, then in the Yardbirds before Led Zeppelin. He was pretty much involved in the entertainment business from a young age. I'd also say that Jimmy Page was considered pretty hot back in the day, so he doesn't fit the "not conventionally handsome" clue.

Gene Simmons seems to be getting a lot of press time these days, while Jimmy Page is quietly living his life with his 20-something girlfriend in London. I don't think too many people would be surprised to learn crazy stories about either one of these men, however. Could very well be someone we would never suspect. My money is on Gene Simmons.

AppleThief4Elliot said...

Just throwing this out there: Slash from Guns and Roses was born in England.

Unknown said...

Really hope this is Jim Carrey. Not loving Jimmy Page or Gene Simmons. Some additional guesses--these would qualify as older, foreign-born permanent A list performers (usually means musician) who have a "dark side"and are still alive -
- Tommy Lee
- Charlie Watts
- Johnny Rotten
- Pete Townshend

Mick and Keith have to be A+ list for sure, can't be them. Morrissey-there's no way. Pete's the favorite--he has a terrible childhood and has had brushes with police re deviance.

Unknown said...

I'd hope Farrow (or any smart journalist) wouldn't let a talk show host or his band in on the story, lest he be scooped or snitched on. But they could ask what he wanted for intro music, and he just said that's his favorite.

I'm thinking that when this one is revealed, our reaction won't be, "Wow, I never suspected there was that side of him." It'll be, "Maybe we should have suspected, because he pretty much told us and we thought he must be acting."

Buck Dancer said...

For people posting about Enty's A-D list, Simmons and Page weren't on there, so it's still a mystery as to how Enty would classify them. Don't think Sting, Jagger, or Elton fit.

Cinnamon Sticker said...

I don't think any of us has it yet. This person has a "secret past." His friends and family won't discuss him. He obviously has access to lots of money, travels, and was given some type of award in the past few years. Usually, there's something in a BI that "clicks" with me but not this one. This is really tough! @Cali, I agree with your thoughts on this!

Buck Dancer said...

I like the Malcolm McDowell guess, but Enty has described him previously as former A list, not permanent.

BestMan said...

I cannot stop thinking about this. In talking it out loud with my husband, we discovered something which points this away from a singer on tour.

Tours are usually no longer than 3 days in one city. Set up, the gig, then resting after the party pretty much take up that time. I can see it happening once or twice, and luck being in their corner, but a serial killer has to be somewhat organized, and educated on the area, in order to successfully repeat his crimes over and over.

Because of this aspect alone, I'm leaning toward someone on location, who has the time to find his spot, find the most likely prey, in order to be repeatedly successful.A concert tour would not afford that luck time after time. With it being an A actor, it also would not be theatre tours, because they are only done by those whose careers have languished.

What do you think?

Unknown said...

Five year lurker, first time poster - I know that he is openly gay, and has been for years, so probably not him, but Ian McKellen could fit. He talks about living through the horrors of WWII in GB, was involved in Shakespearean theater as a kid which may have given him access to a play sword, was in the movies The Shadow and God and Monsters, numerous prestigious accolades, and is in the news today semi defending Hollywood sexual assaulters. I know it’s probably not him because he is gay, but maybe he tried to date girls early in life, or the blind could be misleading, or I most likely I’m completely off base.

overit122 said...

Not foreign born

overit122 said...

Not foreign born

just sayin' said...

good points appalachian mothersauce, but what if girls od'd rather than being slashed or some other "typical" serial killer m.o. as we're starting to imagine? that wouldn't be suspicious and would be easy to cover up or pay off.

just sayin' said...

i like your thinking re farrow's zeppelin intro cail...makes much more sense.

test said...

I'm leaning pretty heavily toward Keith Richards at this point. Foreign born--check, troubled childhood--check, unattractive--check, A lister--check.

Mark said...

Only one guess (@Boobs_Radley) at a foreign actor who may not be an entertainer, except that he tends to live his roles rather than simply act them: Daniel Day-Lewis. Was he really just making shoes in Italy? Would he have been satisfied to *pretend* to fight with plastic swords? IMDB states that he "(d)escribes himself as 'a lifelong study of evasion.'" Per IMDB as well, "During filming (The Ballad of Jack and Rose), he arranged to live separate from his wife to achieve the 'isolation' needed to focus on his own character's reality." Wiki states that his "parents, finding his behaviour to be too wild, sent him to the independent Sevenoaks School in Kent as a boarder." Check the cold case files in Florence, Prince Edward Island, and elsewhere. DDL is a man of mystery.

Buck Dancer said...

Guys I have BIG news. This may be nothing, but I was just looking a bit into Slash, and it turns out as a child he lived next door to DAVID FUCKING GEFFEN. He was born in England but moved to LA as a child, and they were neighbors. His dad also WORKED for Geffen as an album cover artist. Slash also describes himself as a "problem child" growing up (which would be a HUGE understatement if this is him). He also received the Les Paul Award in 2015, and is definitely not conventionally attractive.

Could be nothing, but that connection was too huge to ignore.

test said...

My problem with the actor guesses is that I don't recall Enty ever referring to an actor as an "entertainer." I looked back through quite a few reveals and every actor I found had been called an actor rather than an entertainer. I've ruled out all actors on that basis unless they are also musicians.

Mark said...

DDL's father, Cecil, was referred to as "Mr C. Day-Lewis."

Mike said...

@ just sayin'

I'm one of those that thinks Jimmy Page doesn't fit here. But if the choice of "The Ocean" was deliberate for the Ronan Farrow interview, it's significant because that song was notorious for having the line about "giving all my love" to a three year old girl. Perhaps the line was innocent, but it raised eyebrows back then, and I remember reading an article in the 70s, maybe in Cream, talking about rumours that Plant thought that his car accident that injured his foot and killed his son was karma for putting "The Ocean" to record as there was something evil in it. I'm not sure this is anything that's news to Led Zeppelin fans...

That was also the album that had naked children all over it, with one being lifted up high by a naked man as if about to be sacrificed.

lutefisk said...

@Mike, the three year old girl was Robert Plant's daughter. He used to change the age every year when the song was performed live. As she grew older so did the girl in the song.

Mike said...

@Lutefisk,

Thanks, I do realize this is the usual interpretation of the "three year old" line.

I misrembered that line, too, it wasn't "giving all my love", it was "singing all my songs". Still, my point was that people wondered about that line because it's suggestive, especially given the context of the album cover with the naked children. And, if Ronan was investigating Page, then the choice of song is kind of cheeky.

lutefisk said...

@Mike, it is a very innocent love song to his daughter. The oceans and mountains that he sang to previously were the crowds, now he sings to the little girl he loves. Thor opened up with The Immigrant Song. That has nothing to do with anything but Norway, lol.

Unknown said...

@Mothersauce, a couple thoughts on that: It says the traveling and disappearances happened "many years ago," when it was easier to hide things. If we're talking 90s or earlier, did acts used to stay in each city longer? I'm guessing not, but I don't know.

Also, we're not necessarily talking about the usual serial killer working alone, who has to select and track and catch his prey and then get rid of the evidence. As we've seen in other blinds, Mr. C. could have the girls delivered to his hotel room, and others could clean up while he moves on to the next city.

Stray thought: when it got too dangerous to keep doing it that way, did he just find a new hobby? Did he get too old for it? Or did he get hooked up with one of the island-owning or church-owning procurers we've heard about?

just sayin' said...

mia could easily have crossed paths with jimmy page socially back in the day. they weren't in india at the same time, but they have shared interests. not so likely for her to have known gene simmons.

;) said...

I just started watching Lincoln and had the Daniel Day Lewis thought too! Adding to what Mark said, DDL also played The Butcher in Gangs of NY.

Slash is a good guess. Maybe the nickname has a deeper meaning.

just sayin' said...

i only know a couple of kiss hits and was unfamiliar with this.

"christine sixteen":

She's got me dizzy, she sees me through to the end
She's got me in her hands and there's no use in pretending

Christine sixteen, Christine sixteen

She drives me crazy, I want to give her all I've got
And she's hot every day and night, there is no doubt about it

Christine sixteen, Christine sixteen

I don't usually say things like this to girls your age
But when I saw you coming out of the school that day
That day I knew, I knew (Christine sixteen)
I've got to have you, I've got to have you

She's' been around, but she's young and clean
I've got to have her, can't live without her, whoa no

Christine sixteen, Christine sixteen

Christine (Christine), sixteen (sixteen)
Christine, yeah, yeah
She's so clean (Christine), sixteen (sixteen)
Christine, yeah (Christine), yeah, yeah
Christine (Christine), sixteen (sixteen)

katsm0711 said...

I can’t be the only one hysterically laughing that we are playing guess the closet serial killer, can I?

SeijnSei said...

Marilyn Manson

lutefisk said...

Marilyn Manson was born in Ohio. I feel like Regina George. Stop trying to make fetch happen. I think we should be looking at someone who either grew up in a horrible environment like WW2 Europe, Cuba under Castro, Vietnam, Iran post Shah, USSR, etc, or someone who witnessed abuse or murder in his own life. If they aren't foreign or if they had a normal childhood they don't fit. Also, many of these guesses are nowhere near permanent A list. Marilyn Manson just played a club near me that holds under 1,000 people. Tickets were on Groupon.

Unknown said...

Arnold Schwarzenegger. Breakout role - Conan = Mr. C, most famous role as a "monster" the Terminator. Quote - "After watching mulattas shake it, I can totally understand why Brazil is devoted to my favorite body part, the ass."

lucy said...

wow I thought you folks would have this solved by now! I also don't think it is anyone who has been mentioned. furthermore I think the culprit is old. like 70 or 80s old. the injured boy "spent months in the hospital and lost his eye" why months in hospital? medieval medical care?

I toss Donald Sutherland in the mix. he didn't get his first role because he was "too nice" maybe it made him develop different persona which he played up and flourushed plus he had lots of childhood "issues" and we'll, he's old.

jSmi said...

Gene Simmons.

•Mr C. = real name Chaim Witz
•His persona is The Demon
•He’s been known for being a creep
•Not handsome yet has slept with many groupies
•KISS have labeled themselves as entertainers and not just musicians
•Can be considered A list
•Born in Israel
•His family experienced war/the holocaust

Not surprising. Shame because I always liked the band and the rest of the guys seemed pretty awesome. But he’s known for being an asshole and womanizer. Ugh.

Clarence Boddicker said...

Surprised no one noticed that Enty re-tweeted a comment about this blind and added that it was "definitely mind blowing." That helped me zero in on a good fit that has not been mentioned: David Cronenberg (Mr. C) Canadian-born, permanent A-list iconic horror director (Monster Icon = The Fly) and famous fetishistic weirdo with a professional reputation just nice enough to make this stuff truly shocking. He has also written, acted and produced, hence "Entertainer" just to make it more fun because "Director" is too easy (of course he directed Scanners with that well known "mind blowing" exploding head scene). Received prestigious Order of Ontario award in 2014. Not conventionally handsome. Definite "neighborhood" in the sense he has life long connection to Toronto. Old enough that he was raised in a "different time." Don't know much about his childhood as son of WWII-era Lithuanian Jewish immigrants, but you can't tell me a guy with his "body horror" oeuvre didn't have something f'd up going on at home. I know from interviews he was obsessed with insects/science as a kid. Anyone heard any stories about his childhood?

Unknown said...

Anthony Hopkins, “Back in the day”...he was nominated for Remains of the Day... also, he played a monster in Silence of the Lambs, and he also found success as an older actor.

Doug said...

Regarding Gene Simmons, I am wondering whether his parents' accounts of their WW2 experiences qualify as being "exposed to some graphic life experiences that many of us can't imagine." This seems to me to be an important clue, worded very strongly. I can imagine the word "graphic" referring to his parents' accounts, but is it true that many of "us" can't imagine those things? I think most of us know a fair amount about that historical phenomenon. And being "exposed to some graphic life experiences that many of us can't imagine" feels more to me like direct experience than hearing graphic accounts of others' experiences.

I don't know whether Simmons was exposed to such things during his childhood. This is a good question for any candidate. I am not aware of anything in Jagger's life like this, or Jimmy Page's. There are some guesses here where this clue might fit. Polanski, for example. Schwarzenegger's wikipedia article describes disciplinarian treatment by his father that "would now be called child abuse", but it says that that was not unusual, and the same thing was done to the boy next door by his father. So this doesn't really amount to being "exposed to some graphic life experiences that many of us can't imagine."

@Clarence Boddiker's guess of David Cronenberg is interesting. I wonder, however, whether "if anything is uncovered, this story is going to be huge". The misdeeds described in the blind are intense, but I keep thinking that the hugeness of the story has to do with the perpetrator's prominence. Cronenberg would not be near the hugeness of Jagger or Page, in my view.

Tifwa I said...

Wild guess time, Nick Cave? Was made OAM this year, has always had a very dark reputation. Much as I love him, it wouldn't surprise me.

Andrea said...

What about Michael Crawford?
He's older, was illegitimate which would have caused problem for him in the 1940s as a child, had a difficult childhood with an abusive stepfather and punishment dishing nuns. He's a an all round entertainer as he acts, dances, sings, performs stunts. Shadowy could refer to his role in Phantom.
He's toured a lot throughout the years especially in Australia and New Zealand. He is said to be difficult to work with (though is apparently nice to his fans).
He's also had some strange experiences such as his co-star in Hello Dolly being murdered.

Andrea said...

Also forgot to says he has tonnes of honours and awards.

test said...

Clarence--I like the Cronenberg idea a lot except that I never would have labeled him a permanent A lister. Can you share how you went from the retweet to him? That might help us evaluate him better.

Clarisse McClellan said...

Gene Simmons, for all of the reasons listed above.

His son gave an interview wanting to "kill his father." A metaphor, I know, but he mentions that Gene bends people to his will, and threatens people with medieval torture. Creepy.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/yvxpyb/my-dad-gene-simmons-is-full-of-shit-and-so-are-you-628

test said...

Also, Clarence--I find nothing about Cronenberg's childhood to suggest that it wasn't positive.

Here ButnotThere said...

This never comes out. And you are all off. $ talks.

Clarence Boddicker said...


test--Enty said the blind is "definitely mind blowing" in response to a pretty banal Tweet guessing Gene Simmons. Seemed like a overly cute choice of words hence a clue. At first I thought Criss Angel's Mindfreak show but discounted him for being American born and too young. Racked my brain to think about what else "mind blowing" could reference and thought of that memorable scene in Cronenberg's Scanners where the guy's head explodes. Then it started falling into place. I'd say Cronenberg is definitely A-list as one of the 5 or so top horror directors of all time and a famous auteur.

Clarence Boddicker said...

test--Cronenberg's parents were Litvak Jews who immigrated to Canada from Lithuania. Jewish population there was nearly wiped out. I'm sure they at the least had some stories to tell. He was known to be an odd kid who was into insects and "science." Not too difficult to imagine that being a polite way of saying he liked to cut up animals for fun--especially when his artistic body of work being what it is, i.e. sexualized, body-obsessed horror.

Samantha Willow said...

Our guy has not been named yet, and I suspect the crimes mention occurred in the 70s when it was still easy to hide things. So yeah the monster is in his 70s-80s.
It's hard to come up with a new monster when we see so many here. Himmmmmm we neeeeeeed youuuuuuu...

Doug said...

@Samantha Willow: I agree. I'd say born before 1950 and possibly before 1940.

test said...

Clarence--I'm with you...I forgot about Scanners. It does fit well, although I'm not sure I'd say he's a permanent A lister. Enty doesn't use "permanent" for very many people. He's definitely on my shortlist though.

On Keith Richards, don't forget that he described himself as a "long shadow"...see https://phicklephilly.wordpress.com/2017/08/18/tales-of-rock-keith-richards-snorts-his-dad/

That fits quite well with the "shadowy reputation" in the first sentence of the blind.

Unknown said...

A woman broadcaster sued Gene Simmons for sexual battery a couple days ago. Diversionary gesture? I think it's called a limited hangout.

Keith Lively said...

I'm thinking the "in-demand tendencies" may have been martial arts. In the 80's there were tons of ninja and karate movies made. Maybe Jean-Claude Van Damme or Jackie Chan (Mr. C)?

Man From Atlan said...

Your use of the term "sex game gone wrong" intrigued. It may have come into wide use when the prosecution used that as a possible motive during the Amanda Knox trial (disclosure: I'm one of the editors of a website discussing the murder http://themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Main_Page)
but AFAIK it first was used to describe the death of David Carradine http://www.popcrunch.com/david-carradine-death-linked-to-sex-game-gone-wrong/

Anyhow, carry on your great work - a fan.

Unknown said...

George Soros

Maria said...

Mr. C= Mr. Crowley?

just sayin' said...

i'm more into simmons and page as the answer, but found 2 interesting things:

ozzy says he was sexually abused daily after school by a group of bullies. it was devastating and life-transforming for him and took a lot of therapy for him to overcome the pain.

daniel day-lewis sounds like a kid with oppositional-defiant disorder, the youthful term for anti-social disorder, psychopathy or sometimes borderline. though from rich, privileged and academic family he repeatedly committed petty crimes, and was kicked out of schools for being uncontrollable. this disorder can occur genetically and/or as a result of abuse.

test said...

Very interesting that when Ronan walked out on the Colbert show, Zeppelin's Ocean was playing. It includes the lyric, "Ah, blow my mind!" That fits Enty's tweet about this being mind blowing. If Enty is Ronan, it seems quite likely that this is Jimmy Page.

BestMan said...

Upon discussing this this morning with my husband, I came to the conclusion that there is a very low probability that this was a musician. Musicians are in town for 2 to 3 days max, that would not be enough time to research the area and find the perfect place to murder without being noticed. Successful serial mirderers are organized. If hes gone this long without being caught, he is organized. That does not fit the travel schedule of most mucisians and one nigut entertainers. It does, however, fit someone on location.This scenario gives them time to scout location and victims. I think its either a director or actor.

Am I close Ente? Has anyone hit the target?

Mark said...

@Keith Lively, I threw Jackie Chan out there earlier because no one had guessed outside white men (and Charlize). I like him because I know nothing about him. And I like DDL because he is so into his roles that it's scary.

BestMan said...

All the other scenarios are far too risky. Eventually, having somebody clean up your mess is going to get out. None of us have any clue really who this is, so the story of people dying in his wake is not well known, indicating as well that he did this alone.

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