tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post2560326314543640255..comments2024-03-20T02:18:58.950-07:00Comments on Crazy Days and Nights: NBC Gives Jay Leno $15M To Make Him Go Awayent lawyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08658046190988387228noreply@blogger.comBlogger76125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-84740701266864642282013-04-09T17:25:07.189-07:002013-04-09T17:25:07.189-07:00@Anonymous - I agree w/ everything you said, excep...@Anonymous - I agree w/ everything you said, except the Family Guy stuff, since I do find it funny.<br /><br />I had no idea Seth Meyers was in the works to replace Jimmy. So when he was co-hosting with Kelly Ripa was this already in the works, so that's why he turned that down? <br /><br />I love both Jimmy and Seth, but I'm curious to see how this shakes out. And who is going to take over as head writer for SNL??Lelaina Piercehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14716872075072627386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-80333020925854764992013-04-05T13:36:15.553-07:002013-04-05T13:36:15.553-07:00@Anonymous- Love the name BTW, American Dad & ...@Anonymous- Love the name BTW, American Dad & Family Guy are hilarious! I'm sorry you are missing out.ethornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16955019719632125883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-75848555460762088662013-04-05T12:16:06.733-07:002013-04-05T12:16:06.733-07:00How much sleep we're getting has zip to do wit...How much sleep we're getting has zip to do with it. Even the mildest, most trivial matters on earth, there still are going to be at least a few people around who care enough to get het up arguing over them.<br /><br />I never could stand Leno and the stories about what went on when he first got the job just made me think he was a complete weasel and nothing that's happened since has changed my mind about that. But tastes differ and all that, maybe most of all when it comes to what's funny and what isn't. I got over being shocked that people like things that I don't about thirty years ago, honestly.<br /><br />But I do understand why NBC wants to get rid of Leno. The Tonight Show is a franchise. All the networks are in trouble, but NBC most of all, so what franchises they have left, they are going to be desperate to keep them alive. If Leno keeps doing the show as long as he wants to - which could be easily a decade, maybe even years longer than that - the chances that the franchise will actually still be vital enough to survive being handed off to someone else will be much poorer than they are now.<br /><br />Whatever you may think of Leno, he's no Johnny Carson. Habit and fond memories of Jay Leno's tenure as host will never be enough to keep an audience tuning in after he's gone. NBC today isn't the NBC of 1992, and television has changed so much it's in some ways unrecognizable. The longer Jay Leno stays, the worse NBC's chances are of keeping The Tonight Show going BEYOND the Leno era. That's why they need him gone.poovey-tunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10884304553219184588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-10451672643692079802013-04-05T06:29:12.901-07:002013-04-05T06:29:12.901-07:00I wish someone would pay me $15million to go away!...I wish someone would pay me $15million to go away! <br /><br />We don't get all the late night shows here so I can't comment on all of them, but it does surprise me that shows that are on SO late are popular enough to spark the kind of disagreements on this thread. <br /><br />Sleep is important people, you need to go to bed earlier! Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17505513048094963441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-75088966559224626602013-04-04T23:40:34.836-07:002013-04-04T23:40:34.836-07:00Wow late night polarizes a lot of people. Since y...Wow late night polarizes a lot of people. Since you brought it up Equation were you all Aware that a year ago NBC was #1in the industry. Now, it's #5 with even Univision beating them. They need to change more than Leno and Lauer.Sherryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16510274176187658301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-58659630916203703132013-04-04T22:11:45.630-07:002013-04-04T22:11:45.630-07:00auntliddy, please feel free to go piss up a rope. ...auntliddy, please feel free to go piss up a rope. Everyone here has seen you get on your soapbox and pontificate on numerous subjects and no one to my knowledge has every accused YOU of being like an immature catty highschooler because of it. I don't like Leno because he's not funny. I have no axe to grind. If you disagree, so be it, but don't come off so dismissive and snidely "above it all" in this conversation. Someone above asked "If Leno is so bad, why has he stayed on top for so long?" That's a GREAT question. I honestly don't have an answer to it, aside from the fact that there are a lot of stupid, non-discerning, lowest-common-denominator-type people in this country who like their humor in the "har har that's a knee-slapper" doofus-y vein. Leno's audiences, oftentimes, in my opinion, are a) giving him "sympathy claps" (so as not to be dragged down into his horrid flop-sweaty comedic miasma along with him), b) they're just thrilled to death to be in a Tonight Show audience and don't wanna rock the boat. His audiences are almost LITERALLY captive ones. Or c) they're just idiots. I would love to see Jay get heckled one of these days: I wish someone would do it, on his Tonight Show home turf, and have someone catch it with a phone cam. What passes for Leno humor are slow-pitch underhand throws: the weakest and most harebrained of jokes, observations and "c'mon, laugh with me" dorkisms. Pretty much the only thing funny about him is how he looks. And that's unintentional on his part. He looks like Mac Tonight. I have no ax to grind here. I'm not a fan of Conan or Craig Kilborne or that british guy or the ex-SNL doofus. And I know that hosting any late-night talk show is incredibly hard. But there's intelligent comedy and there's mean comedy and there's dumbfuck comedy, and I prefer the intelligent kind. What blows my mind is that Leno has a writing staff that gets PAID for these dumb monologue jokes of his. I mean, I guess he (Leno) has final say-so in which ones he uses. Maybe he just picks the dumb ones, and the better stuff winds up on the bullpen floor. Who knows? And for the chick who made the jibe about some people just not being smart enough to get the jokes on Family Guy / American Dad, there's usually nothing to "get" other than stupid sight gags, tedious pop-culture references and scatological humor. People who like Family Guy are the kind of people on Idiocracy who were fans of "Ow! My balls!" And "Ass."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-51920717157853709632013-04-04T20:05:06.826-07:002013-04-04T20:05:06.826-07:00I would've gone away for a lot less than that....I would've gone away for a lot less than that.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15274705900598314301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-38372350310687962332013-04-04T18:21:31.239-07:002013-04-04T18:21:31.239-07:00Agree funny is in the eye of the beholder. I don&...Agree funny is in the eye of the beholder. I don't know actors or folks in that business.<br /><br />I do know car people all across the country. Many have done business with or know Leno. I've never heard anyone say antthing good about him. That's a really big statement based on how many people I know. They all say he's an ass.<br /><br />If NBC gets rid of Leno and Lauer ratings can only go up. Good for all.__-__=__https://www.blogger.com/profile/06294916758950711469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-15472436115364121822013-04-04T18:12:26.380-07:002013-04-04T18:12:26.380-07:00Oh god, its like the snooty clique in high school!...Oh god, its like the snooty clique in high school!! Lets all hate Jay!! Dont go on his show!! He's bad and mean!! So jerky. Go home, all of you, and count your millions. auntliddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03772566205262926673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-56423292878775321362013-04-04T18:03:22.128-07:002013-04-04T18:03:22.128-07:00Please, there us no art to interviewing on these s...Please, there us no art to interviewing on these shows. Mr or mrs actir/writer/celeb comes out, smiles, plugs their lame-o priject and leaves. They are so busy and in denand they cant even stay for whole show!! They have to go!!! Remember the old carsons? You had dino, deluise and art carney sitting and laughing on that couch. That was fun. auntliddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03772566205262926673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-12716149123384921582013-04-04T17:59:17.593-07:002013-04-04T17:59:17.593-07:00Anon- wow! You and wife watch alotta unfunny shit...Anon- wow! You and wife watch alotta unfunny shit! Lolauntliddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03772566205262926673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-77799552607440273862013-04-04T16:49:12.258-07:002013-04-04T16:49:12.258-07:00I take that back, I love Graham Norton's show:...I take that back, I love Graham Norton's show:)Agent**Ithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08540236442474211199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-4536182982314245882013-04-04T16:46:08.003-07:002013-04-04T16:46:08.003-07:00How has Leno managed to keep the Tonight Show at t...How has Leno managed to keep the Tonight Show at the top for so long if he's so bad? His wife was working on behalf of females in Afghanistan from the get go and she has donated substantial monies . I have no dog in this race, btw.Agent**Ithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08540236442474211199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-59453864300962580292013-04-04T16:07:46.678-07:002013-04-04T16:07:46.678-07:00@Jazzy I don't think you're alone. I groan...@Jazzy I don't think you're alone. I groaned when I first heard the news & said, "Nooooo, don't do it, Jimmy!" But after I thought about it, I'd be hard pressed to think after Conan's debacle, Fallon's people haven't triple checked everything to avoid being set up to fail. At least, I hope so. ;-)<br /><br />I may be wrong in my thinking, but the ratings slippage will probably swing over to CBS. Fallon & Kimmel have similar demographics, so it'll be the same battle like Letterman & Leno did for 20 years. <br /><br />And while I grew up loving Letterman (both NBC & CBS), I'll turn on Fallon over Letterman to see what he's doing. I do have some fears on what they'll make Fallon change, but I'm hoping for the best.<br /><br />I don't know when Letterman's contract runs out, but who's in the wings ready to take his chair? Is Craig Fergusson interested? <br /><br />I was always under the impression he preferred to be on later cuz he could get away with more things that would normally be censured. :-D<br /><br />I'm not dissing Fergusson. I like him & catch him from time to time.<br /><br />But truthfully, I'm rooting for Jimmy Fallon when he makes the switch.Bluezz https://www.blogger.com/profile/13815954365104459963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-53095066830250626992013-04-04T15:33:18.204-07:002013-04-04T15:33:18.204-07:00Another issue is Jimmy Fallon SUCKS at interviewin...Another issue is Jimmy Fallon SUCKS at interviewing and that is going to be a big problem for him with The Tonight Show. Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08334912133776442596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-36000208847824139522013-04-04T15:22:31.814-07:002013-04-04T15:22:31.814-07:00@lazyday603 +1 on everything except I haven't ...@lazyday603 +1 on everything except I haven't seen Ted to make an informed opinion. :-)Bluezz https://www.blogger.com/profile/13815954365104459963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-91940135490553376272013-04-04T15:19:36.199-07:002013-04-04T15:19:36.199-07:00@rexruther Sorry. I should have refreshed the page...@rexruther Sorry. I should have refreshed the page before posting my diatribe. ;-) I let some comments get under my skin. <br /><br />I'm so with you on a Seth Meyers talk show. :-)<br /><br />I'm also on record of being a fan of Jimmy Fallon, so I'm really pulling for him. Plus, I love The Roots! Woot!Bluezz https://www.blogger.com/profile/13815954365104459963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-15973265040892497402013-04-04T15:09:17.095-07:002013-04-04T15:09:17.095-07:00I do realize that what's transpired in late ni...I do realize that what's transpired in late night, over the last 20 years, has been based on business decisions by network executives. But also, across the table from the suits are hard core managers & lawyers who are fighting for their clients to get the best deal. It might sound crazy to some that others think Leno had all this massive power to pull off certain events. Leno might not be sitting at the table, but his pitbulls are. Even all the way back to 1992.<br /><br />When Leno took over from Carson in 1992, there was a lot of underhanded stuff going on. Helen Kushnick was Jay's manager. <br /><br />Kushnick was *extremely* powerful & was responsible for some of the early behind-the-scenes issues that Leno WAS aware of, but feigned innocence. I can't remember exactly, but I believe Kushnick was involved in some shady stuff regarding booking certain guests. (Obviously, that's just 1 example.) She eventually fell on the sword to keep Leno's nice guy image pristine. <br /><br />David Letterman may have been pissed & moved to CBS, but he WAS Carson's choice for his replacement. That's where Kushnick came into play & battled for Leno to get The Tonight Show. Carson was on record saying he wanted Letterman. After Carson retired, he only made appearances on Letterman & sent jokes to Dave for monologue.<br /><br />When Leno agreed to retire the first time, the deal was struck 5 years prior to the actual changeover to Conan. About 18 months before Leno was to retire, he wasn't so keen on the agreement & things got difficult. So NBC came up with the inane ideal to cancel prime time dramas at 10pm & put Leno there instead.<br /><br />Conan never had a chance. <br /><br />Even if Conan wasn't/isn't your cup of tea, there were many comics who were Conan's peers & very happy he got The Tonight Show. They were excited for their first "Tonight Show" appearance to be with "their guy." Conan was gone before some of them could appear (they were booked).<br /><br />Please note: these same comics have been on Letterman & Kimmel before Conan took over. There was refusal to go on Leno before the mess & they weren't going on his 10pm show nor his return to the 11:30 slot.<br /><br />I can only speculate when Leno became the most hated guy in late night. Most comics who had admired Carson, also looked up to Letterman when he was still with NBC & continue to do so today. I don't hear a lot of compliments in the comedy family re Leno.<br /><br />Just because Leno brought Conan on, shook his hand, & gave his blessing didn't mean Leno was not holding a knife in the other hand ready to stab Conan in the back.<br /><br />Once upon a time, Leno was liked by his peers...<br /><br />"The First Comedy Strike"<br /><br />http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1708834,00.htmlBluezz https://www.blogger.com/profile/13815954365104459963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-73271890603693570932013-04-04T13:54:08.509-07:002013-04-04T13:54:08.509-07:00I swear, everytime we get a Late Night host topic ...I swear, everytime we get a Late Night host topic here people take it up a few notches...and it's always the same! <br /><br />There's like over a dozen of these late night shows, more than one for everyone. <br /><br />I am so down with a Seth Meyers talk show.rexrutherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02868797985216980748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-42711839566922019002013-04-04T13:51:40.300-07:002013-04-04T13:51:40.300-07:00We all proved today that funny is in the eyes of t...We all proved today that funny is in the eyes of the beholder. Because I vehemently disagree with almost every point in the previous post. I think Tina Fey is the funniest person alive. I've never watched Family Guy, but I bought Ted thinking it would be funny like an Apatow produced film. I couldn't have been more wrong. The only thing I laughed at was the boss bragging about being besties with Tom Skerritt. Seth Macfarland is funny the way Don Rickles was funny back in the day. He thinks racism, sexism & homophobia are edgy. Nooooo, not really. But many of people love that stuff. I won't miss Jay Leno. I already miss David Letterman. The Letterman of 1984. The current version can retire and make room for new blood. How about Joel McHale?lazyday603https://www.blogger.com/profile/12638637774851889312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-62038875933495573212013-04-04T12:24:53.265-07:002013-04-04T12:24:53.265-07:00Jimmy Fallon is less funny than Leno. Most comendi...Jimmy Fallon is less funny than Leno. Most comendians these days are not that funny. I think Tina Fey may be the least funny person of all. I get that she does a lot of writing and producing but I do not find her stuff even remotely amusing. Amy Poehler either. Both of them do nothing for the stereotype that women aren't funny. People like Ron White are funny. Chris Tucker, Chris Rock-also not funny.<br /><br />Anyone who thinks family guy or american dad are not funny is probably too stupid to get 75% of the jokes.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09868195252629769444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-72377027875832460562013-04-04T11:45:29.246-07:002013-04-04T11:45:29.246-07:00I may be alone in this, but I think Jimmy doing th...I may be alone in this, but I think Jimmy doing the Tonight Show right now is a mistake. He and Kimmel are taking the younger demo from Leno, which is why the ratings are worse than ever. If Jimmy goes now he will split the audience. Plus, you know NBC is going to change that show. The Tonight Show needs to appeal to a wider demo to be deemed successful by NBC standards. You think they won't try to change the tone of the show, or get The Roots to be less "urban"? Yeah, right. It will be Conan part 2. Aaaand, does Seth Meyers really need his own show? Really?! *Seth and Amy voice* LOLJazzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08677964520523276727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-54821437776200055202013-04-04T11:43:06.485-07:002013-04-04T11:43:06.485-07:00Good grief. $15M IS chump change to Leno. Somethin...Good grief. $15M IS chump change to Leno. Something else is going on here. <br /><br />It's obvious Leno's demographic has withered to the olds only, and I think that's what's driving this change, but $15M would never pry off his death grip on the Tonight Show. Either they're blackmailing him, there was an airtight clause in his contract that stated he had to deliver certain ratings or be ousted (and he didn't), or there's some huge secret under-the-table payoff in play. Whatever. He can't be gone fast enough to suit me.<br /><br />Fox News would be a good place for Leno - lots of addled old viewers who would love his schtick.Sandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12166711673924708587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-83974855095289973402013-04-04T11:40:06.296-07:002013-04-04T11:40:06.296-07:00@Armatel - agree - different things are funny to d...@Armatel - agree - different things are funny to different people. The hated of Leno smacks of Conan brainwashing. I'm no particular fan of Leno - I'll be much more likely to watch Fallon. But this irrational hatred really baffles me. Unless of course, there's something personal about the hatred (Leno screwed your family's finances, something like that).<br /><br />I'm baffled by people who get so into those Real Housewives shows. Seriously baffled. But I'm not going to knock them. It's a matter of taste. <br /><br />Irrational hatred makes me assume that person is irrational about a lot of things.<br /><br />SusanBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00411708661862863714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-36912451777300475562013-04-04T11:30:15.089-07:002013-04-04T11:30:15.089-07:00@Surfer:
California law prohibits non-compete clau...@Surfer:<br />California law prohibits non-compete clauses.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13978194163495589398noreply@blogger.com