tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post6154125845418810328..comments2024-03-20T02:18:58.950-07:00Comments on Crazy Days and Nights: This Story Just Keeps Getting More Sadent lawyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08658046190988387228noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-51883557281507347202010-09-30T23:42:16.270-07:002010-09-30T23:42:16.270-07:00I'm oldish. (Well, 37, that's old to coll...I'm oldish. (Well, 37, that's old to college age kids!)<br />So, seriously, any kids reading this, listen to me. Please.<br />You know when people say that bullies are the sad pathetic people, not you?<br />TRUTH.<br />You know when people say that when people say awful hateful things it reveals their character, not the character of the person they are making fun of?<br />TRUTH.<br />You know when people say suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem?<br />TRUTH.<br />There are millions ans millions of people in this world who have faced the worst things imaginable, and they thought it would be better to end it at times. If you hang on, please just hang on, you will see that you have won. I did.<br />Please talk to someone, there is someone who will help you, you might even have that tiny terrified idea of who you might like to talk to. Please, talk. Please.Marihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03699924341759095966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-82591966317082857632010-09-30T21:13:48.269-07:002010-09-30T21:13:48.269-07:00The actions of his thoughtless roommate could have...The actions of his thoughtless roommate could have pushed him over the edge, so to speak. It's hard enough being gay in this godforsaken right wing hellhole of a country. And if I offended any conservatives reading this, I am not sorry. Anyone admitting to being conservative these days is a heartless, soulless piece of sh#t as far as I'm concerned. Enough!!! <br /><br />Gays commit suicide because of the close minded, hate-filled, judgemental people out there, and let's face it, Republicans have told us exactly where they stand on this issue. Intolerance likely killed this young man, and that breaks my heart.MadLybhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17813966175970143725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-72295124550298130132010-09-30T17:44:15.561-07:002010-09-30T17:44:15.561-07:00It's a horrible story. I'm not sure either...It's a horrible story. I'm not sure either about the cause of the suicide, but those two losers need to pay for what they've done. It's just shameful.witwritergirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06362653216170344772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-70500347920238498362010-09-30T16:55:09.485-07:002010-09-30T16:55:09.485-07:00Damn! I was really hoping this kid was just playi...Damn! I was really hoping this kid was just playing a major prank and was in hiding, even though I doubted it. I would really like to know what happened in the couple of hours between his last post on the site, and the time he decided to kill himself. I am guessing taunts in the dorm hallway became too much. So sad. And I thought the younger generation was more tolerant about gays. <br /><br />I also hope that asshole roomate also gets charged with obstruction of justice as well as the other charges, since he deleted his twitter account when things got serious.Basilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05014551286645310230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-57374858616805148362010-09-30T16:16:06.503-07:002010-09-30T16:16:06.503-07:00@anarchi - but that's the point. We DON'T ...@anarchi - but that's the point. We DON'T know, and I don't see the purpose in speculating. I attended suicide recovery family groups and counseling for years after my father killed himself and have taken an interest in it ever since, and the fact is that rarely EVER do people "just snap". Although the suicide of a loved one may be surprising to people, digging into their lives after the fact often uncovers a lot of pain.<br /><br />Regardless, I just don't think it matters. These monsters committed a crime, and they should pay.RocketQueenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14591968302290881877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-17642503270863973362010-09-30T16:13:26.584-07:002010-09-30T16:13:26.584-07:00It's definitely his body--they ID'd him th...It's definitely his body--they ID'd him this afternoon; cause of death drowning and blunt-impact trauma (the usual cause for any kind of long/high fall). Poor kid...Robin the Mad Photographerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05766675938768012882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-57896476298322938582010-09-30T16:12:16.627-07:002010-09-30T16:12:16.627-07:00I first heard about this story today, and have to ...I first heard about this story today, and have to admit I cried. Tyler may or may not have been suicidal before these 2 secretly recorded then broadcast to the world incidents, but he sure as hell was after. Judging from the posts he made, and the fact that he had been communicating with other gay people years before, doesn't been he was "out" at school. So what the room mate did was not only rude and unfeeling, it was a CRIME! People should come out on their own terms, and not have their private intimate sexual encounters shown to the world for others amusement or (as in the case here) disgust.<br /><br />If these two assholes don't go to jail, I sincerely hope Tylers family sues them for every penny they have.Basilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05014551286645310230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-91196037111946765392010-09-30T15:48:01.760-07:002010-09-30T15:48:01.760-07:00@Nutty_Flavor: do you know for certain those comme...@Nutty_Flavor: do you know for certain those comments were posted by Clementi? And even if they were, it might not be a true indication of what he really felt. And no one has the right to out anyone EVER!!<br /><br />@sunnyside1213: it's rarely ever that simple, straightforward or easy.<br /><br />@Karmen: if you are putting up cameras to record your roommate having sex, would you have any scruples about obtaining and using their password?<br /><br />@anarchi: thanks for putting it so wellAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02985834552591338530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-28235254700627782982010-09-30T15:15:47.230-07:002010-09-30T15:15:47.230-07:00To those that think it was long-term depression or...To those that think it was long-term depression or being gay:<br /><br />You may be wrong. Think about the people who lost everything by Madoff. They committed suicide without ever thinking about "needing to". Everything changed in an instant.<br /><br />Maybe this guy was "quiet", etc. WTF cares. He was DRIVEN to what he did. His family- What do they do?<br /><br />When there is ultimate humiliation, you can snap. I've been there. People are capable of doing such destructive things on the web. Imagine being haunted by a sex tape the rest of your lives, one that YOU didn't know was happening (unlike a Kardassian tape). Your immediate life is ruined.<br /><br />Enty is right, and so are the others who wants these 3 pranksters (monsters, really) to pay the rest of their lives. Burn in hell, all those who think nothing of other people; such arrogance with absolutely no respect for anything.anarchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10078019471279616361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-79872729122101940492010-09-30T14:16:09.953-07:002010-09-30T14:16:09.953-07:00how devastating. :(
i hope the 2 douches get char...how devastating. :(<br /><br />i hope the 2 douches get charged w/ far more. scumbags.Pookiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00526588675336532188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-23721417045952825732010-09-30T13:47:31.933-07:002010-09-30T13:47:31.933-07:00I am so glad we have such caring people in the CDA...I am so glad we have such caring people in the CDAN family. I love reading everyone's comments. Unfortunately bullying doesn't ever stop. School, work, gym, out in the streets. We need a groundswell movement so that bystanders, who let a person make nasty comments, even if they don't agree with them, are empowered to speak up and say 'STOP'. I am certain if people were told to stop when they started bullying, it would nip most of it in the bud.feraltarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05806620230863318926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-74178621478972458522010-09-30T13:44:09.401-07:002010-09-30T13:44:09.401-07:00But it would be super cool if this guy punked the ...But it would be super cool if this guy punked the living hell outta those jerks and is still alive and well somewhere in hiding giving them a gooddose of medicine. <br /><br />But, sadly, probably not. So sad for him. <br /><br />In all seriousness, I feel the guy's pain. While most people who know me think I have it all together nicely: great life, not too fat, handsome gracious husband, good career...but in reality I myself am a tick-tock, living-on-the-edge, checker-outer-wannabe myself sometimes. <br /><br />It is a sickness born into me that I can't shake off sometimes. I just breathe deeply and say "this too shall pass" and get drunk as hell, get over it and on with life!selenakylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16883189902232698160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-46127636593919162122010-09-30T13:39:48.041-07:002010-09-30T13:39:48.041-07:00Damn skippy, Sue Ellen M.!!!
Hell to the YEAH! *...Damn skippy, Sue Ellen M.!!!<br /><br />Hell to the YEAH! *fist shaking*selenakylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16883189902232698160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-40684987214046450802010-09-30T13:38:34.600-07:002010-09-30T13:38:34.600-07:00I think it was more harrassment from the school do...I think it was more harrassment from the school dorm population, rather than what the roommate did. He rallied them to look at it as perverted so the guy may have been harassed by quite a few people before his death.PotPourrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00734553255425155702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-1465696189052985152010-09-30T13:31:51.286-07:002010-09-30T13:31:51.286-07:00jax - I checked the messages from Gawkwer and it s...jax - I checked the messages from Gawkwer and it says cit2mo has been a member since July 2007.Karmenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11096868886010849270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-59209359679957278922010-09-30T13:24:31.298-07:002010-09-30T13:24:31.298-07:00people who succeed at suicide are rarely noticed a...people who succeed at suicide are rarely noticed as "suicidal" before.jaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13009699859972498455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-10212472148921748832010-09-30T12:53:14.880-07:002010-09-30T12:53:14.880-07:00There are lots of gay groups and activities in NYC...There are lots of gay groups and activities in NYC. Didn't he have any friends?sunnyside1213https://www.blogger.com/profile/11062785537118083276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-75110203312580938592010-09-30T12:50:25.504-07:002010-09-30T12:50:25.504-07:00KLM so sorry for your loss.
I have $20 that says ...KLM so sorry for your loss.<br /><br />I have $20 that says the a-hole roommate is a bona-fide closet case as so many homophobes are.kimmypie1https://www.blogger.com/profile/15970930377933968882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-34648134249682083412010-09-30T12:50:22.413-07:002010-09-30T12:50:22.413-07:00I just noticed in the story that those two tried t...I just noticed in the story that those two tried to do the same thing again the day before he died!!! I hope they get charged with a hate crime. Their names and pictures should be posted everywhere. I hate bullies! There is no way to rationalize their behavior. 5 years in prison is an insult! I wonder if they could be considered sex offenders?Ellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02594989002261737366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-11236776250941196062010-09-30T12:47:58.710-07:002010-09-30T12:47:58.710-07:00@selenakyle
I love your comments. They almost alw...@selenakyle<br /><br />I love your comments. They almost always make me laugh. Please tell me you shake your fist sometimes, for punctuation.Sue Ellen Mishkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05173194761001703210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-14230999391271664522010-09-30T12:45:53.315-07:002010-09-30T12:45:53.315-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Now!https://www.blogger.com/profile/00778434851497787791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-40599335831408598032010-09-30T12:45:49.172-07:002010-09-30T12:45:49.172-07:00I don't think Enty went over the line. In the...I don't think Enty went over the line. In the end, Clementi was responsible for his own life. <br /><br />When I first read the story, I thought Clementi must have been deeply closeted and ashamed by this sudden outing, but the postings seem to have been written by a young man who knew he was gay and relatively comfortable with it. <br /><br />Who knows why he killed himself? Whatever it was, it can't be the full responsibly of two other teenagers.<br /><br />Which returns me to another (unpopular) position: this is why I think we need to stop covering up for celebrities who are gay, particularly when they're relatively open about it, like John Travolta. <br /><br />If the roommate and his girlfriend knew that some of the people they respect most - athletes! pop stars! political figures! - are gay, then they might not have been so terribly disgusted that Clementi was.<br /><br />Things that are shameful should be hidden - things like theft, infidelity, hatred. Things that are normal and natural should be open and shared - like sex and love.Now!https://www.blogger.com/profile/00778434851497787791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-65015753375493484112010-09-30T12:41:06.819-07:002010-09-30T12:41:06.819-07:00The roomie and his GF need to go the way of that n...The roomie and his GF need to go the way of that neighborhood mother who fake-Facebooked that poor girl to suicide. <br /><br />Banish and ostracize them, if a manslaughter charge will not stick. <br /><br />My word to them: Rot in the hell of your own making, ASSHOLES!selenakylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16883189902232698160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-48170899505060973742010-09-30T12:39:45.263-07:002010-09-30T12:39:45.263-07:00Why is it if you are a quiet person, not bothering...Why is it if you are a quiet person, not bothering anyone just minding your own business people still go and do despicable things to you just because you are different????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37309174.post-37168638931515138332010-09-30T12:33:41.840-07:002010-09-30T12:33:41.840-07:00I'd of loved having a gay roommate. At least t...I'd of loved having a gay roommate. At least they'd buy toiletpaper and not just use notebook paper, like someone I lived with back in the day. That guy didn't know how good he could have had it (the roommate).Sue Ellen Mishkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05173194761001703210noreply@blogger.com