Wednesday, January 31, 2018

Today's Blind Items - That Secret Movie - A Himmmm Blind

This is a tough one to write, simply for the challenge of not giving it away and damaging anything before it happens.  It's amazing it has been kept this quiet for so long, but I'm sure it'll leak out after the Oscars.  Anything this big is bound to. Like the old saying goes: "If you want to keep a secret between three people in Hollywood – two of them better be dead".  No, there's no murders or deaths surrounding this film, yet.  But the story it is based on sure had plenty.

What I'm talking about is a movie.  A big movie that will be one of those rarities that is both Oscar lure and box office success.  A+ list all the way, big budgets, big talent, and every A+ list actress/actor in the industry wanting to be a part of it.  The secrecy around it is unlike anything in history.  They're not even using a fake name as cover, it's totally off-book.  Right now, they have more attorneys involved in this project than filmmakers, crew, or elements.  Maybe the first time in history a Hollywood studio has employed publicists to PREVENT people from knowing about it.  They even hired social media ninjas to comb the internet to shoot down and remove mentions of it.  I even wonder if it'll stay long on CDAN.  I've not seen this much secrecy on a film since Jurassic Park.  Even Avengers, or Star Wars Force Awakens wasn't this paranoid.  So why all the fuss?

It's a porno.

Yep.  Uh-huh.  A porno.  Okay, to be fair – it's about a porno star, not an actual porno.  So if you're thinking Boogie Nights or those Deep Throat – Linda Lovelace films, you're asking: So what? What's the big deal? They even have The Deuce on HBO.  Why so secretive?

Because comparing this film project to those is like comparing Plan 9 From Outer Space or Lost In Space to the entire Star Wars saga or Avatar.  Point is that this project is so huge and prestigious that it makes the others look like a "Skin-emax" soft core indie film.  Mostly though, it is because in the current social/scandal climate surrounding Hollywood these days they put the lock-down on this project for good reason.  They don't want leaks leading to people accusing the filmmakers of being tone-deaf insensitive; and they also absolutely do not want to get flooded by every perv in Hollywood trying to get a part or be part of it.  A single casting couch rumor on this project would torpedo it.  So they've gone to insane lengths to protect it.  Not long ago, this (disgraced A list director) was set to do a big-budget adult-themed project (about a permanent A list celebrity) that got torpedoed over his abuse accusations.  When a studio already has tens of millions sunk in a project, they cannot let that happen. Especially in high-dollar ironclad play-or-pay deals (not to be confused with pay-for-play, tit-for-tat, barter, couching, or land yachting).

It's like this:

This movie is about one very specific female actress who was known mainly in the 1980s era of porn.  It is a biopic in that sense.  But her fame was such in her time that she crossed over to more mainstream top-shelf publications, and even television interviews. Possibly the most beautiful all-American girl next door to ever have a hardcore career.  If you're thinking it is (former underage porn star) you would be wrong.  But she's a featured character in it too.  Thing is, the star of the story disappeared. Vanished into thin air after her last film.  Not vanished dead, because she went on to have a different life.  She went to law school, became an attorney, changed her name and had a nice family.  Typical soccer mom, Sunday-school teacher, holly homemaker type.  Until a few years ago when she was contacted by people who represented the last big mafia family.

They were looking to sell their holdings in porn to a legit media company for big bucks.  Problem is, she was one of their most popular stars and she had a unique contract in her day (which allegedly she co-wrote herself back then with her law professor).  She quit and vanished from porn due to the mob taking over her porn studio, and killing many of the owners of it.  Years later, turns out she was owed millions in back royalties – and her contract was still legally enforceable.  The legit media buyers wouldn't proceed without her signature on a new contract; or her accepting a settlement; or…her death certificate.  Yep.  The mob had to either pay her or kill her.  Which was tricky to do, because even if they found her – the FBI still wanted to bring her in as a witness against the mob hits of her bosses.  Then it got ugly for her, and turned into quite a ride.  Turns out, she lived and prevailed.  Using her brilliance instead of her body.  But it was one hell of a bumpy ride.

Best of all? It was ALL TRUE.  It resulted in the FBI actually getting plea deals with mobsters; clearing 30 year-old mob hit murders; and solving money laundering cases worth tons of money globally.  The legit media company got the old porn library titles and reaped a billion from it.  And it all really happened.  She also got her money, and peace.

It's one of the best scripts to come through Hollywood in decades, and has an amazing role for the lead actress.  Best of all it includes life rights, and the lady ex-porn star's willingness to promote it.  It is a package that includes documentaries, media stories, and specials.  The studio that bought it agreed to use cross-promotion synergy from many of their media divisions to tell her story.  In any era of the entertainment industry it would be a welcome change for such great material and a big project.  But, as you all know – this isn't any era.  It is a very sensitive era, especially telling women's stories, porn stories, and having lots of sex and nudity on a project.

If the project isn't done right, in the right tone with the right people? It'll be destroyed before it ever opens purely by social media, rumors, and speculations from knee-jerkers who will attack it without any idea of it.  That has happened or nearly happened many times in the past.  So the conglomerate/studio who is producing it has set up a massive legal, security, and IT security team that would rival a government's.  Everything to do with the project is kept on off-line isolated secure computers.  Nothing is allowed to be taken in, or out.  They do not even let the team working on the movie bring in mobile phones or devices.  An entire 25% of the studio's legal staff are devoted to this one project.  Clearing rights, contracts, and mostly NDA's that would make an intelligence agency jealous.  The punishment for violation by actors? So severe and massive that it would basically blacklist and possibly bankrupt not just the actor, but their agents and managers.  It's that extreme.  But few would risk that anyway, since even (permanent A list mostly movie actress) has supposedly offered to do a small role in the project for scale just to be part of it. Somehow, I don't think they want her for the lead.

Of course, nothing is totally foolproof or totally private.  When the studio (they have wide ranging entertainment industries) first pre-emptively gobbled up the rights to it a year ago, they originally did it with this star (disgraced former A list mostly movie actor) in mind for the older male lead.  Whoops. Then when this company (disgraced A list director's company) got slammed in scandal, the studio had to find a quick co-financing partner.  Whoops again.  So they shared the project with a few select investors.  They too were subject to the legal lockdown but the studio needs them more than they need the studio, so not much threat there.  Interestingly, one investor stepped right up and wrote the studio a blank check because the project is so good.  Recently, the investor swallowed up the entire project, buying the rights from the studio, and has threatened to take it to (a studio that owns a theme park) is this studio doesn't shape up.

The producers got the best director (A lister who had a very good 2017) for this project.  As picky as he is, he jumped at this project.  He's not known for his heartfelt movies, but with this script and his recent hit (___________) he's given wide berth.  He's one of the few that could be trusted with this material, and do it proper without risk of any problems derailing it. The studio used this project as bait to try and lure him to other projects (his old project), but he won't commit to those.  Meanwhile, the studio and director have held semi-formal casting sessions very, very, very secretly.

Every actress is told to bring an attorney or manager; a studio attorney is present; a female casting director; and every meeting is video recorded.  All because of the "casting couch" temptations – not by the director, but by eager actresses.  Also due to the adult nature of the story, and the fact that it will have reams of nudity and sex.  This will not be one of those PG-13 movies about sex, it'll be very true to the script.  This actress (A list mostly movie actress who worked with the director before) already said she'd do anything for the lead; as did (foreign born A- list mostly movie actress), and (foreign born B+ list mostly movie actress who was barely old enough to drive when that gross French actor had sex with her before casting her), and (A+ list mostly movie actress who is an Oscar winner/nominee), and (A list mostly movie actress who is an Oscar winner/nominee).  It's crazy, but only one of those even has a shot at the lead.  Even (former A+ list mostly movie actress/America's sweetheart) and (foreign born A- list mostly movie actress who had a franchise back in the day and could use a career boost) have told their agents to get them auditions.  Actresses who "never read" or audition are jumping at it.

These actresses are offering to work for scale, do anything required onscreen, and sign unprecedented promotion agreements.  This actress (foreign born A list mostly movie actress who is a recent Oscar nominee) has already auditioned for a supporting role.  Funny enough, this actress (former A list singer/number one box office star in a different country) auditioned for the same role.  I don't think it'll be a fair fight to see who wins that one although I can see the box-office appeal of the latter's scenes being a big draw.  I've heard (A-/B+ list mostly movie actress who was married to a celebrity offspring) has given one of the best reads thus far.  For male leads, this actor (foreign born A+ list mostly movie actor) has said he too would waive his fee, and possibly return to a franchise for the studio.  Guess he's getting pumped up for it.  Meanwhile, it's said (permanent A list mostly movie actor who started in television and had a nice run there), and (permanent A list mostly movie actor despite his relatively young age),  and this actor (permanent A list mostly movie actor who has made a ton of money in a superhero franchise.) have all agreed to audition and read.  I cannot tell you how unusual that is.  It is one of the rare times lately when the material really seems to be king (and not how many toys you can sell – although toys related to this movie sure wouldn't be sold in Wal-Mart). 

During the hoopla around the Golden Globes, many A+ listers were fighting the urge to discuss the project though they knew the others knew.  Sort of like a secret club.  Many actresses used it as a cover story to happen to be in town at the same time auditions were ongoing.  Likewise, during the coming Oscars week, the director and studio will be wrapping up major casting under the same cover of people all being in town.  Yes, it is that big of a deal.  I personally cannot wait, and hope it comes off without a hitch.  We probably won't have to wait too long.  Any project with that much heat will get a quick greenlight.  That's the sexiest thing of all.  Especially if you're producing it.


228 comments:

  1. Tracy Lord or Marilyn Chambers for the actress

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    1. It was Stacy Donovan, birth name Kelley Howell. She is a attorney in Topeka Kansas. She was involved in the meese report ordered by Ronald Reagan. It was a huge investigation/report, and partly looked at porn and organized crimes involvement. She had made movies for Cinderella distributors.

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  2. def not Traci Lord. he says it's not the "underage" one.

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  3. Nolan or Del Toro will be directing?
    Singer as disgraced director?
    Okay I know who made tons of money in superhero franchise lol.
    Jennifer Lawrence = America's Sweetheart?

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  4. Director has to be Nolan, who Himmmm has said wouldn't ever have an affair with an actress or use casting couch. Great 2017. The Studio would be WB, who is trying to lure him back to do Batman. Means that the foreign both A+ list would be Bale.

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    2. I did not know that about Nolan, that's so good to know (it's hard to enjoy anything without feeling guilty these days—i used to enjoy Woody/Polanski so much before I knew what they did).

      Also: "and they also absolutely do not want to get flooded by every perv in Hollywood trying to get a part or be part of it" <-- KUDOS FOR THIS! 💛💛💛💛

      As someone (Halloweenie, I think) said on another thread the other day: Shout out to the good guys!!!!

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  5. America's sweetheart is Sandra Bullock
    A list Actor who would return to a franchise Christian Bale.
    Ginger Lynn Allen crossed over from Porn but did not become a lawyer so still looking

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  7. And You're producing it Himmmm? Lol, because blind kind of make it sound like this.

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  8. Marilyn Chambers is dead so, no.

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  9. Kevin Spacey disgraced actor who was to play older male lead?

    The actress does sound like Marilyn Chambers, but she died fairly young and never went into law AFAIK.

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  11. Tiffany Million is a licensed Investigator and Bounty Hunter

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  12. For the actors I'd say Bale, Clooney, DiCaprio and RDJ.

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  13. Obviously Jessica Simpson is the former A list singer/#1 box office star in another country.

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  14. I'm kind of skeptical any project is *that* good.

    This does read like promotional material for the project, at the very least an unofficial attempt to preempt any attacks on the subject matter.

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  15. Bambi Woods for the Porn Star? Just found this:

    Then:

    Woods was not prepared for the level of fame she received for 1978's "Debbie Does Dallas," an adult film she appeared in solely because of personal financial issues.

    She became a celebrity of sorts. Woods only appeared in two other X-rated movies, both sequels to "Dallas."

    Now:

    Barely anything is known about Woods.

    She disappeared from the national spotlight in the mid-1980s.

    Over the years there have been multiple reports that range from saying she is dead to that she is living a normal normal life.

    None of which have been confirmed.

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  16. Its certainly Nolan. They want him back for Batman universe. He would never use the casting couch. He is picky and quite secretive. Would also explain Bales involvement and willingness to do anything for the part. Warner Brothers are the studio.

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  17. I'm going to say Annette Haven for the porn actress, she nearly became a star in legit Hollywood and almost got the starring role in Body Double.

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    1. Nope, read she's on Facebook and super vocal

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  18. Everyone else said Bale for foreign born A+ lister returning to a franchise, but I'm going to go with Arnold Schwarzenegger due to "Guess he's getting pumped up for it."

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    1. @DH
      except we had a blind 2 weeks ago about CB working out for a new role

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  19. Director who the studio is trying to lure in for an another project: Nolan
    Studio: WB
    Another project: Batman movies?
    Disgraced director: Singer
    His other afult-themed project about a permanent a-list: Freddie Mercury biopic Bohemian Rhapsody?

    I am clueless about the actors and actresses though.

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  20. @DH its probably Bale. He just put on a lot of weight for the Dick Cheney movie so is likely getting fit again. There was also a blind suggesting his return to the bat costume a month or so ago

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  21. There have been recent blinds that Bale was getting back in Batman shape after his dumpy turn as Dick Cheney.

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  22. I thought America's Sweetheart was Meg Ryan.

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    1. Anonymous10:40 AM

      She was. Then she let Russell Crowe poke her.

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    2. Lol, I thought it was Julia Roberts?

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  23. +1 for Christopher Nolan and Christian Bale, now it makes sense.

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  24. With you on Nolan being the director.

    As for the porn star? Karen Summer seems to fit the bill: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Summer

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  25. Taija Ray is another possibility - mainstream acting credits, worked iwth Traci Lords, has disappeared from the industry.

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  26. Look for clues in the book The Other Hollywood: The Uncensored Oral History of the Porn Film Industry. I think I remember a blurb about a Porn star going Legit this way. I can't remember though because it's been a long time. I have the book in storage at the moment so I can't check. Great book anyway if I am mistaken about the lead or clues in it.

    https://www.amazon.com/Other-Hollywood-Uncensored-History-Industry/dp/0060096608

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  27. Bambi Woods of Debby Does Dallas is another potential fit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bambi_Woods

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    1. Except her two movies were in late 70's, not 80's

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  28. @Tuesdi,. I thought Bambi woods also at first. Debbie Does Dallas was in late 70s. I saw a documentary on YouTube about the movie and was very fascinating. Came out of no where and then she disappeared.

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  29. I hope we can get someone here who can piece together who the adult actress is. It sounds like a great story.

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  30. I thought America's Sweetheart was Julia Roberts. I guess we have lots of sweethearts.

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  31. Is Efron permanent?

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  32. Emma Watson as the one who had a franchise back in the day. Anne Hathaway as the actress who work with him before.

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  33. Stacy Donovan. Testified for Meese commission in Reagan era.

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  34. I'm guessing Warner Bros for the studio, originally in conjunction with disgraced Brett Ratner's RatPac productions. Maybe the mogul who bought the rights is James Packer (the 'Pac' in RatPac), and the 'go-to' threat studio with the theme park is Universal.

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  35. America's Sweethearts: Julia Roberts, Jennifer Aniston, Sandra Bullock, JLaw, Anne Hathaway, who else?

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    2. Reese Witherspoon?

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  36. Interesting concept, but it will probably emerge as a Dirty American Hustle, where the sets and costumes are the most moving aspects of the film.

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  37. 80's porn actress is Lisa Deleeuw

    here exit, fake staged death, into regular life and dealings with the Mob are legendary...

    It is confirmed she is alive...

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  38. The Dark Side of Porn: Debbie Does Dallas Uncovered -- watched this on youtube

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  39. Can't wait to find out who gets the big role.

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  40. Hope it's not Nolan. This movie sounds stupid.

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  41. @VeryMadB its also pretty different to Nolans recent out put. I also think Interstellar, Inception and Dunkirk were pretty heartfelt at times, thats what threw me off. But the WB, Bale to Batman connection points to him. The only other director I can think of who had a movie out this year that isnt heartfelt is Aronofsky but all the other points are against him. Denis Villeneuve is the only other person I could think of

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  42. Yeah. Annette Haven. Man o man she was and I'm guessing still is a beautiful human being. She, Jenna Haze, and Stoya could've been in mainstream stuff full time they are that good looking.

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  43. Koo Stark? She had a fling with Randy Prince Andy back in the day.

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  44. +1 MeliticusBee ...she also starred with Traci Lords in the 80s and there is a Stacey Donovan listed as an attorney also.

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  45. I just love the way Himmmm writes, I could read it all day.
    This sounds great, can't wait!
    I have no guesses tho. Just Sandra Bullock for Americas Sweetheart of course. And I'd watch anything she is in

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  46. Adult actress’s stage name is Bambi Woods in Debbie Does Dallas.

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  47. America's Sweetheart = Sandra Bullock
    Male (foreign born A+ list mostly movie actor to waive fee and possibly return to a franchise for the studio) = Chris Hemsworth / Thor-Disney

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  48. Producer is sexiest? Himmmmmm are you producing this thing?

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  49. @flimfanb On the other hand, I suppose I'd like to see Nolan do something darker, grittier, and more Scorsese -- if you get my drift -- But, Nolan and nudity and sex seems so strange. I am forgetting Memento which was a dark-ish, gritty-ish film -- so, maybe it is him.

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  50. Is this the project RDJ wanted work on while he still can and give up Iron Man?

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  51. Here's to hoping they don't ruin it by casting Jennifer Lawrence as the lead.

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  52. Maybe this is one of the Himmmms producing after all. The one that got to visit Hef's vault. That kind of fits together, doesn't it?

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    1. Interesting point!! It would make sense for the visit!

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  53. @VeryMadB I completely agree. I am a big Nolan fan but would love him to step away from the movies he makes and go....as you said in a direction similar to Scorsese. PTA would have been good but its probably too close to Boogie Nights

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  54. So is this the heather swift story? Margot Robbie to play lead?

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  55. If this blind is on the level I want this movie to be made and distributed. If I were an actor I would ask for a percentage of the gross profits in exchange for scale wages.

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  56. Is it about Trump and Stormy Daniels affair??? Holy shit!!!

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  57. If only James Spader still had his looks. Perhaps there is a role for him in this film. Can someone with the power to do so PLEASE make this happen?!

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  58. Kate I think Holly Price was born in the 80s so she doesn't fit although she was a porn star who became a lawyer a couple of years ago.

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  59. My guess for the star is either Nina Hartley or Ginger Lynn. I am leaning towards Ginger as she's more of an All American than Nina.

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    1. Nina still works. I know that GL made a lot of money because she had good contracts; later actors got much worse deals.

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  60. Lisa DeLeeuw Defends Constitution video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSje6OXC0iw

    maybe her?

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  61. Nolan would be great for the director! From IMDB one of Nolan's trademarks is "Lonely troubled protagonists who are unwillingly forced to hide their true identity from the world."

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  62. Who's the legit media company that bought the porn library and made a billion off it?

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  63. Not long ago, this (disgraced A list director) was set to do a big-budget adult-themed project (about a permanent A list celebrity) that got torpedoed over his abuse accusations.

    Ratner's Heff movie

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  64. Lisa deleeuw died a few decades ago.

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    1. Nope she is still alive. Was a rumor back un the 90's. She is still around. Look her up. She is very close to fitting the description.

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  65. Anonymous11:28 AM

    Yup Ratner and Leto's Heff movie

    Must be a good script if Nolan is willing to do work-for-hire again (and there's no narrative trickery/time condensing)

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    1. I admit, I went on Deadline looking for RatPac stories and saw a story about them buying a Hefner script and wondered if it was that.

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  66. Originally I thought it was Bambi Woods but she wouldn't have starred or known Traci Lords. Stacey Donovan is the right fit as she disappeared after the 1980s and they starred together. She also turned states evidence and was blacklisted from that industry so that tells me she was for law.

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  67. sandybrook she's not dead. It's confirmed she's alive. Rialto tracked her down. She's definitely alive 1 million percent. The film will be about her.

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  68. Oh, great. So "American Hustle" was a hit so let's do some more 80s sleaze, a Star 80 rehash but the porn chick lives. Keep the #MeToots from rioting. A cynical retread now with social media advance hype about it all being super secretive. I'm already bored and disgusted.

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  69. Nolan directing? Don't be ridiculous. He's the biggest prude out there. Originally, Interstellar was supposed to have a sex scene between Hathaway and McConaughey and he cut it out. No sex please, he's British!

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  70. Wow, Debbie Does Dallas is in the public domain due to a copyright error. Who knew?

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  71. "and has threatened to take it to (a studio that owns a theme park) is this studio doesn't shape up."

    Disney?

    The idea of such movie with Hans Zimmer music and Nolan's specific camera is already surprising enough haha.

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    1. @Alexandria Anna - doesn't Universal Studios own a theme park?

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    2. T.W.: I read that there is something, in Orlando I guess...? I don't know exactly what it is though. If it's a theme park, then You guessed it!

      Lol, Disney came to my mind first... 😂

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  72. I'm not good at this as so many of you are, but try looking at Steve Mnuchin (g-grandfather was Russian born diamond dealer) as he was verrry involved with Hollyweird. He actually bought out one of Spacey's theatres and Spacey declined a board position thereafter. Mnuchin executive produce(s)(ed) tons of movies along with the Rat/Pac gang.
    Note: Relativity Media (Mnuchin's, et al co-owners) after emerging from bankruptcy, was then sold to China. (I'll avoid throwing in politics here, but does "bankruptcy sound familiar here?)
    Steve was a member of Skull & Bones whilst attending Yale.

    You all are soooo good!

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  73. Studio is probably Nickelodeon. Theme park is Nickelodeon Universe in Mall of America

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  74. Wonder who wrote the script? Sorkin involved?

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  75. Anonymous11:44 AM

    Not Nina Hartley, she never stopped working in adult films, is still doing them.

    Let's run it down:

    Worked in the 80's, contract actress.
    Crossover to legit media
    All American Girl type
    Disappeared
    Studio she worked for was bought out
    Studio she worked for had owners die

    Let's stop the usual "Throwing in the one porn actresses name I know" thing, and get digging.

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  76. "If you're thinking it is (former underage porn star) you would be wrong. But she's a featured character in it too." This doesn't mean Lords actively worked with Woods, but she is a character in the film

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  77. I like Stacey Donovan guesses. Looked her up and she's like a cross between Cheryl Tiegs & Lori Laughlin.

    This should be interesting. Just *DON'T* cast too many A list stars in cameos, that is gimmicky and ruins a lot of movies.
    A few top stars and character actors. And actual porn stars in the background for authenticity.

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  78. Is this the interview? http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2y3nt9

    Bambi Woods interview, quite charming actually.

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  79. Description of the actress sounds a lot like description of Stacey Donovan on Wikipedia page, including her mainstream modeling.

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  80. Could Reese Witherspoon be in the America's Sweetheart category?

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    1. Yes. She also has that Southern Belle image thing going on IRL. And it would be really cool-in-a-meta-kind-of-way for her to play a pornstar who went to law school because she was in "Legally Blonde".

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  81. This is 100% Nikki V.

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  82. Anonymous12:08 PM

    had to make a goddamned chart to keep this straight....

    For the porn star, I'm going with the Bambi Wood or Stacy Donovan guesses. Particularly the Donovan guess, becuase it sounds like she was forced to perform by the mob and that kindo f story would definitely be handled with velvet gloves in the metoo era.

    The disgraced director is Ratner (working on the Heff biopic) and his company RatPac. The Disgraced actor is Spacey.

    Nolan is making the film for WB, hot off Dunkirk. That much is certain. Probably trying to lure him back to Batman.

    The actress who worked with him is either Anne Hathaway or Jessica Chastain.

    The Sweetheart I am thinkning of is probably Reese Witherspoon, and the FB A+ actor is Bale, also being courted to return to Batman.

    After that, it's murky.

    I think the Foreign born B+ lister is Melanie Laurent, who made her film debut in one of Gerard Depardieu's few directorial gigs, The Bridge, in 1999. She would have been 16 when it came out, likely 15 when it was made. And he's the first that comes to mind for gross French actor.
    The foreign born A- lister is maybe Daisy ridley, the Oscar A+ lister is Jennifer Lawrence and the Oscar lister, Brie Larson? And i'll go with the foreign A- lister with a franchise to be Emma Watson.

    Could the supporting role be down to Margot Robbie or Jessica Simpson!?!? (Maybe as Tracy Lords?) still trying to figure out the A-/B+ lister married to celeb offspirng....Uuuuuuuunless, it's an older role than I am going with Sally Hawkins/unknown singer/ Catherine Zeta-Jones, maybe?

    As for the actors...I already think Bale, but the tv-starting A lister is likely George Clooney, the youngish perma A lister is either Leo or maybe Channing Tatum? He's only in his late 30s. And the perma A list superhero is probably nunudda then one quarter of Himmmm, himmmmself, (if what eeryone thinks is true) Robert Downey, Jr.

    so to break it down, this is my takes:
    Porn star: Bambi Woods or Stacy Donovan
    Disgraced A list director and his forsaken project and company: Brett Ratner/Heff bio/RatPac
    Disgraced A lis actor: Kevin Spacey
    Studio: Warner Bros
    Director: Christopher Nolan (coming off Dunkirk)
    A list actress who worked with director: Anne Hathaway or Jessica Chastain
    Foreign Born A- lister: Daisy ridley
    B+ foreign actress: Melanie Laurent (Gross French actor: Gerard Depardieu)
    America's Sweetheart: Reese Witherspoon
    Foreign Born A- lister w/ franchise: Emma Watson
    Foreign born A list Oscar: Margot Robbie
    Singer: Jessica Simpson
    A-/B+ list married to celeb offspring:
    A+ foreign born actor: Christian Bale
    perma A lister who began in tv: George Clooney
    young perm A lister: Leo DiCaprio or Channing Tatum
    perm A list superhero: Robert Downey Jr.

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  83. It's so tiresome that Hollywood thinks that this is a great idea. Another movie about a sex-worker. Progress it ain't.

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  84. This story does sound incredible. I would think that Stacy Donovan makes sense as well for the subject.

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  85. Jeez, sounds like Cum with the Wind.

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  86. Anonymous12:32 PM

    Potential studio that got sold -

    VCA Pictures got sold to Hustler, and had quite a few big movies in it's catalog

    One of those pictures was "New Wave Hookers", with Kimberly Carson, who stopped working in the mid 80's.

    This movie had an underage Traci Lords dressed in it, which was edited out.

    Other actresses in the film are Desiree Lane, Brooke Fields, Ginger Lynn, Kristara Barrington, Gina Carrera

    I'd look into the films Tracy did - if she's a character in the movie, then one of her movies is a key - and this one was for a studio that was later sold.

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  87. The only actress I can think of who was married to a celebrity offspring is Denise Richards, but I hardly think she's A-/B+. Although her past experience may have contributed to a mighty good read.

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  88. Anonymous12:50 PM

    This is about Bambi Woods from Debbie Does Dallas

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  89. Wowzer! I need to come back to this later (including the comments) but as a starter I’m chucking Sylvia Kristel and the Emmanuelle movies into the ring.

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  90. Oh Google, you nut!
    Searching for "former porn actress 'law school' founded studio" gives this suggested search: "what is nancy grace doing now"!

    Lol!

    Reading the blind again, I don't think the search would work - the star disappeared, so her law degree wouldn't show up. I think the suggestion of Bambi Woods is good. What studio made "Debbie Does Dallas" and was it sold?

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  91. Stacey Donovan makes sense to me, she did turn evidence and disappeared. Heavy,heavy drug use with her and her circle.

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  92. Agree re Bale and Nolan. Actor who started on TV, how about Ryan Reynolds? Micky Mouse, right?
    Helluva blind.

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  93. @Serenity - the Stacey Donovan who is a lawyer got her undergraduate degree in 1992, and her JD in 1997. The Stacey Donovan who did porn worked until 1991, but only had 1-2 videos a year from 1988 - 1991. So that's a potential match.

    However, from the blind, it sounds like she went to law school under an assumed name, and is living under an assumed name since leaving the business. So I'd argue Stacey Donavan, a public defender in Kansas and adjunct professor at Kansas University School of Law doesn't match.

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  94. 'Stacey Donovan' was a stage name.

    http://articles.latimes.com/1987-04-22/local/me-26_1_performers

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  95. It seems to me that the notoriety of "Debbie Does Dallas" might be integral to the success of this new film. I don't see anything similar for Stacy Donovan.

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  96. T. W., I would love to see Spader in it as well. He is one of rare actors that can combine kink with real heart and sincerity.

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  97. thank you to @melvin the reanimator for the detailed and thorough breakdown!!!

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  98. Bambi Woods.
    Debbie Does Dallas.

    The Dark Side of Porn: Debbie Does Dallas Uncovered - VIDEO LINK BELOW
    Also known as The Curse of Debbie Does Dallas, in the vein of Inside Deep Throat, it examines the history of the production and marketing of the 1978 cult hit, Debbie Does Dallas, and is a study of the porn industry in the 1970s. Interviews with former porn stars also try to uncover the mystery of Bambi Woods, the starlet who disappeared from porn soon after Debbie Does Dallas and was rumored to have connections with the mafia and problems with the FBI. Featuring interviews with Robin Byrd, female actress in the movie and Bill Kelly, a former FBI agent once working on an undercover operation to bust porn producers.
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x55h70j

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    1. +1000. She's completely underground since the 80's

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  99. Reese Witherspoon can also fit America's Sweetheart.

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  100. @ Alexandria Anna & TW - In all seriousness (for once) it is probably Universal. Disney might have been a possibility if they still owned Miramax but I don't think they have any other ones that would do this type of film anymore

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      BTW, didn't Disney just bought most of 21st century fox? I'm a little bit lost who owns which studio now, so I'm confused and mostly shooting in the dark. 😶

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  101. Operation post porn .... Read the Meese report

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  102. Anonymous2:19 PM

    I keep wondering if Eddie Nash is one of the guys convicted because of her testimoney - he went away in the 90's for money laundering, drug dealing, and the murders in the Wonderland case, and he had mob ties. I can't find any links between him and porn, other than the Wonderland case, and that happened in 81.

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  104. If it's not Bambi Woods then someone should make one.
    If a studio put up a Debbie Does Dallas bio movie in the theater there would be people lined up around the block to throw their money at the box office. Everyone has heard of the original movie.

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  105. I think this blind is actually phase publicity/hype and it’s greatly exaggerated, not 100% true. And movie doesn’t sound that great.

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  106. Sylvia Kristel died a few years ago, so she can't be the subject.

    I'm thinking Bambi Woods is the subject. Her disappearance is the stuff of legend, and the name recognition of DDD is enough to warrant this kind of hype.

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  107. "mainstream top-shelf publications" = Playboy or Penthouse
    Stacey Donovan is the only suggested name that might fit.

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  108. Might not be Bambi Woods. Here's an interview supposedly done with her in 2007 where she speaks about the two films she did as well as where she's been (without divulging her real name or other personal details). Sounds like she left porn and never looked back.

    http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2007/05/debbie_does_dal_2.html

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  109. This story is from The Journal archives

    By pleading guilty to a federal conspiracy charge, Kenneth Guarino avoids a trial that would have delved into his multifaceted adult entertainment business and his underworld ties.

    By W. ZACHARY MALINOWSKI Journal-Bulletin Staff WriterTHE PROVIDENCE JOURNAL-BULLETIN
    Saturday, 1/11/1997





    "Kenneth Guarino, whose multimillion-dollar erotic empire has gone global, is going to prison.

    The Cranston-based pornographer pleaded guilty yesterday to a federal conspiracy charge in a Las Vegas courthouse. Just a few miles away, a provocative billboard on "The Strip" promotes his latest X-rated film, Zazel, The Scent of Love.

    The plea, after four years of delays, averted a two-month trial that would have shed light on Guarino's multifaceted adult entertainment business, and his ties to the underworld."

    More about mob ties later in article. Not sure if the above could be relevant or not.

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  110. Just what the world needs. More big screen naked heterosexual shenanigans, now with 75% less emotional motivation getting in the way! Already tired of hearing about this project.

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  111. This will be interesting. 80s porn... real breast and merkins

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  112. I like the Bambi Woods guess and Christian Bale because a recent blind hinted that he was considering returning to his superhero franchise, and working out every day "getting pumped up".

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  113. This movie surely sounds like an old day Oscar-bait, and I'm not so sure the current times will embrace it, it's not about doing it extremely carefully as much as it really is old ideas of glory that they don't know have already expired, you can put all the money in the world with the most capable PR team behind (TLJ) and still not being liked by general audience.

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  114. By W. ZACHARY MALINOWSKI Journal-Bulletin Staff WriterTHE PROVIDENCE JOURNAL-BULLETIN


    rolling with the rain,
    Boy you better run to your mama now

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  115. WOW what a truly captivating read. this is how You do it! I don't care if it is harrowing tale of Wendy does Wallpaper I am in! seriously though, way to hype super secret project! I am beyond intrigued. and if it involves sex? awesome. America needs a feel-good sex story, but I agree it could all go wrong. look at all the hype over 50shades book and then movie was flop (literally?) should have been titillating, alas anything I read made me not even want to pretend not to rent it.
    lead actress is key. you seem to suggest you could cast anyone. who will it be? so exciting!

    fly me to premiere! count can be my plus one . it's not about the money, I will pay my own way. I just need something to look forward to and this is it.
    GREAT job! *\ o /*
    ( .) (. ) ←lol boobs.

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  116. Debra DeSanto is Bambi's real name.

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  117. Bambi Woods seems to fit. She had mainstream notoriety and vanished in the mid 80s. Debbie Does Dallas is the type of porno that has name recognition too.

    What's interesting is that looking into Debbie Does Dallas, VCX had worldwide distribution rights. The President of VCX was investigated by the FBI. It looks like he had mob ties and was sent to prison for 'transporting obscene material across state lines". He was selling degrading S&M videos in Vegas or something. His two small children were killed by asphyxiation while he was in prison. VCX was in a dispute with the copyright holder of Debbie Does Dallas, M&A Associates - Arthur Weisberg, but I can't find anything on them. School Day Films produced DDD, but I can't find much on them. It seems like they did a few more after but stopped in 1981. It looks like Jim Clark was the one that headed it up. He produced and directed DDD, but has changed his name a few times (Jim Buckley, Jim Clarke, Jim MacKenzie).

    Vivid Entertainment distributed a new version of DDD, so they might be the legit media agency that bought the rights.

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    1. It must have been for that reboot that there was a reality show on Showtime about the search for the new Debbie and making of the movie. It was weird but Showtime still does a lot of adult industry related documentaries and broadcasts the the AVN awards every year.

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  118. bruh, this sounds amazing.

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  119. This blind is at least 25% too long. Lots of filler with repetitive stuff about secrecy.
    I predict that, if this is even true, this movie will be both a box office and critical dud.
    It sounds like a retread of multiple films done since film began, with the supposed hook of a real life character.
    But I don’t think this is real, I think it’s a trial balloon without having to spend money on a focus group. Tacky.

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    1. I'm skeptical too that it would be some surefire box office or awards hit. There have been movies about Linda Lovelace and John Holmes with some impressive casts that didn't do jack by either measure. They didn't even make back their very low budgets.

      There is an intriguing story laid out here and I understand bigger names, but it's still a movie about porn which puts a ceiling on it.

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  120. Bambi Woods, "Debbie Does Dallas"? Bambi is obvi not her real name, but she "vanished" so to speak.. I don't know about the lawyer part, but she was super famous for this role and this was during the "Golden Age of porn".??

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  121. I think Tuesdi nailed it. Bambi Woods’ real name is Debra DeSanto - no idea if this is the same woman but there’s a Debra J DeSanto listed as an attorney in Ohio... no picture but it says she’s been licensed for 35 years. Shot in the dark but I still think it’s definitely Debbie Does Dallas https://www.lawyers.com/columbus/ohio/debra-j-desanto-42675789-f/

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  122. I favor Stacey Donovan over Bambi. Bambi only made a couple movies and it seems unlikely she had any kind of favorable contract given her youth and inexperience. Donovan is noted in her wikipedia to have "that girl-next-door appearance" in wikipedia, 2. she modeled for Swatch 3. she gave an interview to a local television channel http://www.backdrop.net/sm-201/index.php?title=Stacey_Donovan

    Also, the way I read the BI, the actress became a lawyer, started a family, lived a quiet life and THEN the mob came looking for "a few years go", so somewhat recently she helped put the criminals away?

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  123. From what I understood (maybe I understood wrong) it sounds like the movie is focused on these particular events that took place after she disappeared and then mobs came after her.
    So it's about this whole case, deal with FBI, how it was solved and how she dealt with the problem, and not on sex, at all. It's just, when making a movie about porn industry - there is no way around that, and there will be sex and nudity...If someone is trying to make it realistic.

    Looking at previous Nolan movies, I can see him making really good movie out of it and I'm curious about it. Even though I don't find porn industry particularly fascinating, or sublime lol.

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  124. Just another opportunity to objectify women; to fetishize them. Hollywood pays lip service to #timesup and #metoo while it continues to have two classes: the men who objectify, and the women who are turned into objects simply existing for the pleasure of men. The Grammys were a good example. There's no point in wearing white roses, while nearly naked women are gyrating eg Despacito. There can be no equality while the world is viewed through the prism of male eyes, and women are simply props and hardly human beings.

    As if there's not enough pressure on teen girls to be 'hot' with 'role models' like the KarCrashians. Teenage girls will see this movie, which will no doubt glamourise the porn industry, and think it's not a bad gig to be fucked up the backside, have a penis shoved down your throat until you're gagging and crying, and be slapped and hit, all because men get their kicks from it. Until the men in power stop glorifying rape culture, nothing's gonna change. This movie will not help women.

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  125. Warner Bros
    Nolan
    Bale

    Foreign born A list mostly movie actress who is a recent Oscar nominee - Margot Robbie

    America's Sweetheart - Julia Roberts (she was in a movie of the same title)

    A list mostly movie actress who worked with the director before - Anne Hathaway

    Gonna throw Chastain, Amy Adams in there for some actresses who want auditions.



    Who are?:

    A-/B+ list mostly movie actress who was married to a celebrity offspring

    Permanent A list mostly movie actor who started in television and had a nice run there - Clooney? (ER) ? DiCaprio?

    Permanent A list mostly movie actor despite his relatively young age


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  126. Lately there is obviously such a thing as bad publicity, but most of it is still useful. This project sounds like something that they know will be massively controversial, and that many people will decide to see it for that reason alone. Others will see it for other reasons, of course. In order to make the project fail, there would need to be some sort of boycott, if only in the form of a meme that catches on.

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  127. Tracy Lords for the young porn star in the 80's

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  128. A-/B+ list mostly movie actress who was married to a celebrity offspring:

    Virginia Madsen (was married to Danny Huston)
    Patricia Arquette (was married to Nicolas Cage)

    ???

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  129. The porn star from the 80's was Stacey Donovan. She was once told she was too beautiful for porn. There was some lawsuit in 1987 involving the mob. She had an unusual contract(s) that made her somewhat of a big player.

    She even kinda resembles Margot Robbie (foreign born A lister/Nominee)

    Daniel Radcliffe would be the young permanent A lister who made a lot of money with a franchise (harry potter).

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  130. I'm sorry but I called "bullsh--" on this blind well before I stopped reading it.

    For those who don't remember, Boogie Nights, excellent film though it was, didn't exactly set the box office on fire, according to Box Office Mojo:

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=boogienights.htm

    The main reason, I suspect, is that men don't want to drag their wives to a movie about porn so she can feel inferior to the women on screen, many of whom will be nude.

    The distribution deal for a movie like this will not be anything to write home about, and it will not seriously have stars lined up for it. Burt Reynolds was a FADING, former A+ lister when he made Boogie Nights, and he was the biggest star in the film.

    If the late 1990s, with Boogie Nights AND the Lewinsky scandal, couldn't get America to accept an explicit R-rated film about porn, then there's no reason to believe it will happen in the era of #MeToo and #TimesUp.

    I hope Himmmm had fun writing this, because this is a huge tease.

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  131. DEBBIE DOES DALLAS came out in 1978. "Bambi" did very little after that. The blind specifically mentions an 80's porn star. I like the Stacey Donovan guess and some other guesses better.
    Truly, the most logical way to approach this is through mob ties and convictions, then peddle back to which porn stars worked with mobsters or people with mob ties who might have testified.

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  132. permanent A list mostly movie actor despite his relatively young age = Ryan Gosling?

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  133. Margo Robbie is definitely in the mix of actresses. She has that 80's porn-star look about her. No offense meant -- I think she is beautiful.

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  134. Maybe I've drank too much of the CDAN cool-aid but I see this story as a great #metoo story. Young beautiful model gets sucked into a consensual relationship/business arrangement she later regrets (a retrospective #metoo'ing, very common these days) survives it stronger, and then the agents of her abusers threaten her life and she prevails and puts them in jail and makes millions. The perfect #metoo heroine.

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  135. Annette Haven looks like Annette Benning. Hmmmmmm.

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  136. And I'm betting on Jessica Chastain over Anne Hathaway. No way Anne Hathaway could pass as a porn star! :)

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  137. @veebee, it could be Ryan Gosling, but I like the Channing Tatum guess better!

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  138. For all those skeptical of the movie, it sounds as if it was a compelling script -- ERIN BROCKOVICH meets THE UNTOUCHABLES, meets naked women. :)

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  139. @P Rei- funny I thought the same exact thing. Looks identical to Annette Benning.

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  140. Director Paul Verhoeven. Blessed Virgin.

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  141. So I told my husband that I was researching this (in case he looked at my computer and thought I had an 80's female porn-star fetish). Weirdly, he was able to casually throw out four or five names that you all have mentioned. Lol!!

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  142. Katherine Heigel looks an awful lot like 80's era Lisa DeLeeuw. First film was with Gerard D. Diva maybe, but girl can act and could conceivingly get an audition. (Only one on list to have a chance?) Hmmmmm...

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  143. I based my search on who the biopic subject is based on:

    -1980's porn actress

    -porn actress active from 1984 to 1986. That's because Traci Lords is also a character in the film, and 1094-May 1986 are the only years she filmed porn.

    -Hmmmm specifically said the porn actress subject of film was gorgeous girl-next-door, so I googled "porn actress girl next door 1980's" I originally came up with JAMIE SUMMERS.

    -then cross referenced the pool of potential porn actresses who wree "girl next door" types, actively filming between 1984-1986.

    -then reduced that list down by who was still alive. Unfortunately I found three of these potential actresses are deceased, so they have been removed from search results.

    -also remove from the pool of candidates the porn actresses who are still working in porn, or still "known"

    the only actresses I could come up with, that fit these parameters, and then the woman fell off the grid are either JAMIE SUMMERS or STACEY DONOVAN

    Can't wait to see the film!

    1980's heydey golden age or seedy porn holiday, mob ties, FBI investigation, and then a "girl done good" aspect of becoming a lawyer. I will def see this.

    DO NOT CAST JENNIFER LAWRENCE!

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  144. Its Nolan for sure.
    Not sure why the secrecy, doesn't seem that controversial

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  145. "A-/B+ list mostly movie actress who was married to a celebrity offspring"

    Diane Lane? She was married to Josh Brolin who is the son of actor James Brolin.

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  146. This sounds like Showgirls and will probably end up like Showgirls. No movie has such widespread appeal so I'm confused about the hype in this blind. Wonder Woman, Jumanji, Star Wars, etc; really big movies but none of them come close to fitting the description here.
    Regarding a couple of the guesses, I think the older disgraced actor is supposed to be Kevin Spacey, however, if they're going for squeaky clean, I remember whispers about him being a randy cruiser even before he was "mugged" in 2004.
    How old is the actress supposed to be? In her porn years or later? The previous sweethearts may have been Sandra Bullock, Julia Roberts and Meg Ryan, all in their 50's, but porn age is more like Jennifer Lawrence even though the title is a contentious one. The other, even though online gossip insiders again know better would be Reese.

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  147. It's Stacy Donovan, I found images then, I found a photo now, it's her. She's a attorney in Topeka Kansas, and didn't change her name. It's her.

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  148. Stacy Donovan's birth name was Kelley Howell.

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  149. Picture again, definitely her, from encino, was informant for meese commission, it's all there, all of it! Cinderella distributors run by brickman, ingalls

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  150. @one-eyed-bob I think you make a great point here. There is a huge chance this movie could end up being gratuitous and badly timed (hence all the secrecy in the first place), but if it is handled right then the #timesup timing couldn't be better. God, if only the director was Patty Jenkins then I'd be putting my money aside for tickets right now!

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  151. The screenplay won't be all true, it's based on Kelley Howell/Stacy Donovan, but its being glamorized, no surprise. Must be one hell of a screenwriter.

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  152. They should do a movie about Traci Lords. She was the one who turned herself into the FBI.

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  153. When I saw the tweet from Enty I was excited to read this blind. Then I see its a movie about a Ho, so disappointing. They better give her a lightsaber or at least a funny fat friend if they want to sell tickets.

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  154. This almost seems like a mashup of two stars - Bambi Woods and Stacey Donovan. Bambi didn't make mainstream top-shelf videos. I believe Stacey did have a couple that could be considered mainstream.

    There are some other inconsistencies too. If the star dropped out of making videos to attend law school, how did she write a contract with the help of her law professor?

    Also I believe both of Bambi and Stacey's videos were part of the same adult entertainment producers/companies.

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  155. If the movie is that secret then isn't this blind a breach of NDA?

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  156. While the concept is interesting I honestly doubt it is true. Actors in the adult industry do not receive any residuals, they sign away all rights for immediate one time cash payment. This contract standard has been true since the 1970s and was well established by the 1980s referenced in this blind. It is highly unlikely that any actress, especially one just entering the industry, would receive or could negotiate anything other than a standard agreement. Furthermore actors were not contract players but freelanced. I looked up ten credits on Stacey Donovan's IMDB listing, there were two with one company (VCX) and all the rest were with multiple production companies. Extrapolating that to her more than one hundred credits, she would have to convince 40-50-60 production companies to each sign non-standard contracts. That isn't rational.

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  158. @D Brown, 100% agree. And if by the furthest chance a porn star had negotiated any residuals, it would be at most a few thousand dollars not millions.

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  159. I can't believe I just read a thousand plus word blind on CDAN and there wasn't a dark twist were someone got sexually abused anywhere in it. Idk the female actors but yes obviously Warner Bros and Nolan is huge news.

    Surprised the script hasn't appeared on the Black List or somesuch before we hear about it.

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  160. Please don't cast ANYONE from Harry Potter. Please don't cast Julia Roberts. Please don't cast Anne Hathaway. Anyhoo. .......I just hope the 'all star cast' doesn't mess with the point of the movie. .......also, getting tired of seeing Jennifer Lawrence in everything, so no cast-y there too. LOVE everyone's guesses tho.

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  161. If it is Stacy Donovan why would she use her stage name working as a lawyer in kansas.Can I get a link to a picture of the topeka lady.

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  162. @ Urthor they way it's described here there's no way this script would've been a spec or an assignment left for the Black List. Rights gobbled up, pitched, writer hired --

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  163. Stacy Donovan birth name is reported as being Kelley Howell, however, married at some point and changed her name. Her name is now Kelly Seim. She is in California.

    There is no Kansas attorney registration for a Kelley Howell. At least not according to this: http://tpka-oas-01.kscourts.org:8888/pls/ar/attorney_registration_pkg.request_attorney

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  164. Drama hit it with the porn star: Karen Summer--- she did cross over... just wasn't that big a porn star as I remember.

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