It looks like as soon as Kirstie Alley got finished with The Today Show on Monday she must have had a team of Scientologists ready to give her the answers she didn't have on Tuesday and also to put one of their famous Scientology practices to good use. Here is what Kirstie told PopEater after the interview.
She said she was ambushed by The Today Show and that the reporter used for the piece, Roger Friedman who works for The Hollywood Reporter has it in for her and for Scientology. "If you Google Mr. Friedman, you'll see he has had longtime problems with Scientology. He has written numerous articles against them."
Now who do you suppose gave her that little sound byte? That is what Scientologists love to do. Go after the messenger. Don't address the actual issue but go after the person making the statement.
As for the claim that her company is a front for the COS, Kirstie says "There was a claim that my product is a front for Scientology. This is not true. Organic Liaison is its own L.L.C. and is not affiliated with The Church of Scientology or the World Institute of Scientology. The proof is in the numbers," she continues. "Out of the 25 approximate employees, there may be 26, of Organic Liaison, 4 are Scientologists. Organic Liaison does not discriminate in its hiring practices, including religion ... It boils down to roughly 10% of my company is Scientologists, 90% are non-Scientologists."
First of all, last I checked 10% of 25 is 2.5, so the number is closer to 15% or 20%. Plus, the allegation in the report was that all of the top officers in the company are Scientologists. Notice she doesn't address that part of the report. What are the positions of the four?
Apparently Roger Tweeted after the show, "Kirstie Alley lies on The Today Show about Scientology connection." Kirstie threatened to sue him though so he changed it to "Kristie Alley gets it wrong on Today Show about Scientology Connection." Meh, the point is made.
This is my one issue with everything. I wish the COS would be more open and transparent. I think there would be less hostility. I wish they would stop personally criticizing everyone who criticizes their religion. Finally, I worry about people using a product to lose weight that might be run by the same people who thought touching someone would heal injuries in Haiti. I worry that the same people who came up with the e-meter would be in charge of me losing weight. I am also anxious to see that when people buy the product, and they will, if any of them are ever contacted by the COS after they purchase it. Do they suddenly get on a mailing list. If they stop ordering food will "Organic Liaison" people be calling them non stop to get them to return. These will be the true tests.
For me, it's just annoying and weird the tactics that some people claim the COS uses..I really don't want to know about Xenu but chase someone just because they leave your church it's scary! (But to be honest the catholic church also tried to mess with the evolutionary theory)
ReplyDeleteI am not a Scientologist, but I know a lot about them through the experience of friends and by reading half a dozen Scio books and years of experience with "freezone" or non-COS auditing and processing. The ideas are interesting, but the organization itself is questionable -- that's my takeaway.
ReplyDeleteOn the whole "Scientology front" thing, many groups have been accused of that. Neopets, for instance, because it has some Scio's on board, used to be accused of being a nefarious recruiting scheme; this was false.
Probably what is most bothersome is the tendency of Scientologists to implement "management tech" from the group in their regular businesses. While they are technically correct that their groups aren't Scientology front groups, if they're using management tech (the books and practices that come from the COS), then their business blurs the lines between being a Scio and not being a Scio group.
Like I said, I'm not a Scientologist, and if you asked me for advice, I would say don't join. But they are human beings, and they shouldn't be stigmatized. Their beliefs are no weirder than the Christian and Islamic beliefs that make life on earth a living hell.
Why isn't she wearing shoes any more?
ReplyDeleteIslamic and Christian churches don't encourage you to seperate from your family,friends and all other SP's.
ReplyDeletethey don't have the SeaOrg that forbids you to have children while under their 'employment' even if you are married to another S/O member, you either have to leave S/O or have an abortion.Those are your options.
oh and Christianity and Islamic beliefs are not Persona Non Grata in Germany. When Germany comes out and calls a religion a cult,it kinda says something.IMO.
It's my opinion that Scientology is not a religion at all. What do they worship? Why are they so secretive? Why are dissatisfied members afraid to leave? It's a cult.
ReplyDeleteLol @ you re-working her math, Enty!
ReplyDeleteI was reading her tweets yesterday, and she sure was defensive. Me thinks thou doth protest too much there, Rebec-er-Kirstie.
I'm worried in general about people using weight loss products no matter where they come from... but, I've already repeated myself a million times about how I feel about the cult that is the weight loss industry. The COS connection only makes sense if you ask me. I'm just going to leave this one alone.
ReplyDeleteMy mantra on this and related subjects:
ReplyDeleteFUCK SCIENTOLOGY!
Scio was invented out of Hubbards desire to 'invent a religion to make a million dollars', and he did it. THere is no belief in it. It's just for idiots and their money. Sorry John and Kirstie. Those are L Ron's words, not mine.
ReplyDeleteAlso, Kirstie's feet are too fat for shoes.
ReplyDelete@ Jamie's Girl, did Ron really say that?
ReplyDeleteI think the proposition that no Christian church and no Islamic group in the history of the human race has ever encouraged its members to avoid heretics is, well, perhaps not grounded in the most accurate understanding of history. I'm just saying. Like I said earlier, there are huge problems with Scientologists, and the disconnection policy is one of them. But to pretend there isn't a Crusader versus Jihadist war going on is a little odd, isn't it?
ReplyDeleteI love it when pro-Scientologists go on websites, say they're not Scientologists, and immediately talk about the "weirdness" of mainstream religions compared to the Xenu-ness of Scientology. That's the Goodwin's Law of Scientology.
ReplyDeleteScientology's LEAF Project hasn't changed its tactics in a long while.
Wow, to believe that I've been on this board just waiting for the opportunity to serve my masters in the COS by saying that the weirdness of Scientology is no weirder than virgin birth or jihad, um, that's cool. I like you. You're a bold thinker. However, you're wrong. I come to this board because I love celebrity gossip. Thanks,though.
ReplyDeletethe dieting/weight loss industry is such a load of crap.
ReplyDeleteso is kirstie alley.
why would anybody actually be interested in watching her lose weight? i don't understand. who care a jot about kirstie alley anyway?
only the scientology thing is interesting.
Barton Fink makes a good point. Bush said that going to war after 9/11 was a "crusade" against terrorism. The word has a bad connotation in Europe. Here's a link regarding the statement:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.csmonitor.com/2001/0919/p12s2-woeu.html