Nevermind, wikipedia says that the show has been canned:
On August 10, 2012, Victoria Justice stated that the series would not be renewed. [3] Justice also said that Victorious was the number one show on Nick and she did not know why it was cancelled. [4] Dan Schneider added in a blog post that Nickelodeon often ends shows after about 60 episodes. Even though he and the cast would have been willing to shoot more episodes, the network decided to end the series.
It would have to be Miranda, Jenette McCurdy has a new show with Ariana Grande and the girls from Victorious have projects lined up. If it's her I hope it's not Drake Bell's baby, he was awful to her.
Seriously, is there a place this man can be reported? I am so sick of reading blinds on this site that repeatedly refer to Dan S. as a pedophile and watch nothing being done about it. I feel like this is the Jerry Sandusky situation all over again, only this time I may know something. And even though it's only heresay, I want to report it.
@Cathy, "Jessie" is on Disney, and I actively dislike it - it has a horribly stereotyped Indian character, ie Indian from India, not First Nations North American.
Not sure why it's still politically correct to make fun of Indians and their accents, but Disney seems to think it is.
@nutty flavor, I hate that Jesse show for the same exact reasons as you. They also have a little african American girl who acts like every stereotypical black inner city child. Its ridiculously over the top.
Say bye bye to the star. There is no way Disney would give up a money maker show, just because the star is preggers. They would also not want the "Disney" name tainted with a pregnant, underage girl who is supposed to be an innocent star.
Am I missing something? Where does it say that this girl is pregnant by any older man let alone Dan schiender gor that matter? It is possible that she's pregnant by another teenager or someone in her peer group.
@Tish & Nutty- my daughter loves that shit and it makes me want to gouge my own eyes out and then Davinci myself. Not only is it stereotypical but the acting is beyond awful, it's worse than Big Time Rush and I never thought anything could top that.
Okay, look: People here are spouting off without knowledge, and it's making them look like idiots.
If someone is a "tweener" or becomes pregnant, then, by definition, someone having sex with them is not a pedophile.
The whole thing that's wrong with pedophiles is that, for them, the lack of primary and secondary sexual characteristics seen in pre-pubescense takes the place of gender as a trigger for arousal.
What we're looking at here -- what particular Nick show-runner and former young adult actor is frequently accused of -- is one or both of two things: Hebephilia or Ephebophelia.
Hebephilia is being primarily sexually attracted to pubescent individuals -- think 11-14 years old.
Ephebophila is being primarily attracted to mid-to-late adolescents -- think 14-19 years old.
None of them is good, but some are worse than others, and it brings discredit to all when they exaggerate a crime to generate greater outrage. It's a sleazy thing to manipulate a 15-year-old into the sack, but it's not, by orders of magnitude, the sickness of buggering a toddler.
Leaving aside that anybody calling someone out for any of these activities by name damned well has a responsibility to have more evidence than a fucking Internet gossip columnist, if you're going to accuse someone, even someone anonymous, of a sickness, know what you're damned well talking about, or STFU!
I do know what I'm talking about and underage is underage. Girls are developing much sooner than previously in regards to body development (widening of hips, breast development, menstruation). It doesn't change the fact that a girl can be 11 and have a period. If you are as intelligent as you're attempting to appear you should have tried to "school" people on a different topic. There is no "gray" area when it comes to pedophilia.
@Leviathan, the justice system does not differentiate and calls them all pedophiles. The difference is in the punishment. So I would stop calling everyone idiots, it make you look stupid and petty.
icarly is over and miranda (the sta) is at USC. victoria justice's show is over as well. BUT sam, from icarly and kat from th victoria justice show are going to star in a new show together.
because it says nick star, and there is the option of writing it into h show, i'm going to guess teen nick and say one of the Degrassi girls.
@frufra, that is what I was thinking...it doesn't have to be a tween that is pg to be a tween star
And I have seen the whole pedophile, ephe, whatever lecture posted on this site before. Was that @leviathan or is this something that everyone knows except me?
Victorious was cancelled because the girls refused to do a musical tour to help sell CD's for Sony because the soundtrack was tanking. They said no so Sony said take a hike...heard that from an insider. The shitty show that Master P's daughter is on was cancelled because of incessant medalling by Master P. Nick had enough of his bullshit so they punished everyone by shutting it down. The chick that played Sam on iCarly has a new show with one of the girls from Victorious. She could be the one who is pregnant. The show hasn't aired yet and I know they're shooting so this could throw a wrench in the works.
You are wrong. The DSM-IV-TR does not list it singularly; it is grouped into paraphilias NOS. Although that may change in the DSM V, it's a relatively new term. Thus, it would be someone engaging in pedophilic behavior, as although it is generally younger, that is a general rule, not the standard, and also by clinical judgement. Legally, it's not different at all.
Although if you are knowledgeable of this and may want to educate people, I don't think that on this subject it's a difference that people will care too much about insulting. The sexualization of kids are happening sooner and sooner. Though I certainly understand the clinical need to have people work with offenders, I also think that before someone is released into the general population, they should be chemically castrated or something of the sort to prevent recurrence. In this case someone's symptoms of illness increasing means that another child is offended on.
Pennsylvania recently made sex offender laws even tighter, thankfully. I just see way too many individuals that have been through molestation to budge on my viewpoint that all individuals that engage in sexual relationships with underage individuals (significant age difference) have something going on.
To add to that previous comment: sex with an underaged person is of course wrong, whether the boy/girl is a teen or a pre-teen. They didn't make laws for nothing :) I'm just very anal about the right terms xD
Word, Agent. If you google the term it's a new term in psychology and although for clinical classification purposes it is useful, it seems there's a new branch that's almost being apologists for it. Makes me sick. That's really the only population I won't work with.
Thanks! I do appreciate that comment. I completely understand when people don't respond or ignore whatever I say (seem to have not fallen info the "right clique" for that to be. I dont ever want to appear that I know it all, because actually th opposite is true. Just when I have expertise in this field and have testified as an expert witness on some Chidren and Youth (or CPS dpending on what locationone is in) cases. Though iy's a terrible situation especially for the child, sometimes the kida aren't aware of anything different. I remember one case who, due th paternal isolation, always had the kids undress (daughters) as well as himself when giving them a haircut. Though that can be horrific by itself, the kids never new any "normal" way becuase that environment they grew up in was "just hooe dads do this. Another time I encounted an 18 month old diagnosed with gonnaherena (I know awful spellimg. AN 18 MONTH OLD. It was one of the most horrifying things I've come across. Ugh. Amkes me want to do serious damages to people like that.
The blind mentions a NICK series. Also doesn't mention timelines. There's no way in hell a tween star has a baby (unless her last name is Spears and exiles herself) and stays on one of these shows.
It has to be one of the two who have shows which are ending. And, blecch. You'd think if these girls were going to be sexually active they'd ALSO be on the pill or something. Jesus.
Ooh, @stanleyroper, thanks for the awesome Nick gossip. I have four daughters and the oldest three are glued to Nickelodeon ... I'd love to hear more dirt! And the show with Master P's daughter, is that ANT Farm? That show irritates me. My girls will be angry that Victorious, iCarly, and ANT Farm are all going off the air. :-(
@chopchop-ANT Farm is Disney. The show with Master P's daughter is called How To Rock. It stinks, she's not that talented and Nick has no problem cutting ties with it cuz they won't lose much in the long run. Nick always looks for break out stars on their shows and then fully gets behind them (record deals,merchandising,etc) so they (Nick) can cash in. HTR had no one who "broke out" so they lost interest especially when a billionaire who basically bought the show for his daughter to showcase her "talents" was constantly interfering.
@skydives1: The justice system has nothing to do with it. I doubt you can find a law on the books in any state in the country mentioning the word "pedophilia."
The law is concerned with actions, not conditions, and the justice system addresses unlawful sexual contact with minors. If you did, too, you'd have a point to make, but when you call someone who had sex with a teenager a pedophile, you show you have as much common sense as someone who calls a property owner who burns down a building for insurace a pyromaniac.
@mybrothehero You clearly _don't_ know what you're talking about. Don't just talk to me, go do your own research: Peodphilia is sexual attraction to pre-pubescence. Once the target hits physical puberty, a pedophile will lose interest.
This guy, whoever he is, is either a Hebephile or an Ephebophile.
iCarly?
ReplyDeleteOh God. Jamie Lynn 2.0: Dan Schneider Strikes Back??
ReplyDeleteAmber, you would think DS would have been "outed" by now. Icky.
Delete@amber, thats the first thing i thought... "there's a perv around here that needs rehab"
ReplyDeleteReturn of the Pedi.
ReplyDeleteCan't be iCarly, that show is ending. Victoria Justice?
ReplyDeleteNevermind, wikipedia says that the show has been canned:
DeleteOn August 10, 2012, Victoria Justice stated that the series would not be renewed. [3] Justice also said that Victorious was the number one show on Nick and she did not know why it was cancelled. [4] Dan Schneider added in a blog post that Nickelodeon often ends shows after about 60 episodes. Even though he and the cast would have been willing to shoot more episodes, the network decided to end the series.
Hmmm....
LOL @ FSP. Brilliant.
ReplyDelete@Agent - IDK how these rumors persist so fiercely and he's able to get away with it???
Who's the father?
ReplyDeleteIs that Jesse something or other show on Nick? I never know which shows are Nick and which are Disney...
ReplyDeleteiCarly's last show is in two weeks, end of the series. Coincidence?!?!
ReplyDeleteSeriously?! Where are the parents?! Tweener means under 18, right?! W. T. F.
ReplyDeleteThere is a show called True Jackson. The star is 15 year-old Keke Palmer. Miranda Cosgrove is 19, so I don't think she's a "tweener" anymore.
ReplyDeleteIt would have to be Miranda, Jenette McCurdy has a new show with Ariana Grande and the girls from Victorious have projects lined up. If it's her I hope it's not Drake Bell's baby, he was awful to her.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, is there a place this man can be reported? I am so sick of reading blinds on this site that repeatedly refer to Dan S. as a pedophile and watch nothing being done about it. I feel like this is the Jerry Sandusky situation all over again, only this time I may know something. And even though it's only heresay, I want to report it.
ReplyDelete@Amber- Keke is 19 now, he show has been canceled for a while.
ReplyDeleteThese pedo blinds make me want to cry. These poor girls will never be the same. Look at Demi Lovato and Amanda Bynes... so sad.
ReplyDelete@Cathy, "Jessie" is on Disney, and I actively dislike it - it has a horribly stereotyped Indian character, ie Indian from India, not First Nations North American.
ReplyDeleteNot sure why it's still politically correct to make fun of Indians and their accents, but Disney seems to think it is.
Keke Palmer's over 18; can't be her.
ReplyDeleteThey've never heard of birth control? Seriously, after this election, i think my cat knows about birth control!! Lol
ReplyDeleteOh WTH Nick's site is lame then. I looked up the shows, it was at the top of the list and describes her as being 15 in the bio!
ReplyDeleteI have a feeling it will end in a pressured abortion and the show will go on and none of us will be wiser who it is.
ReplyDeletePerhaps DS hasn't been outed because all of the allegations against him are purely speculation on gossip sites? Just...pointing that out.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry, folks, but unfounded witch hunts scare me a bit. :-/
@nutty flavor, I hate that Jesse show for the same exact reasons as you. They also have a little african American girl who acts like every stereotypical black inner city child. Its ridiculously over the top.
ReplyDeleteIf she were a stereotypic inner city child she'd have already cut that bitch up.
DeleteSay bye bye to the star. There is no way Disney would give up a money maker show, just because the star is preggers. They would also not want the "Disney" name tainted with a pregnant, underage girl who is supposed to be an innocent star.
ReplyDeleteAm I missing something? Where does it say that this girl is pregnant by any older man let alone Dan schiender gor that matter? It is possible that she's pregnant by another teenager or someone in her peer group.
ReplyDelete@hollywood - it doesn't. I said it mostly in jest BECAUSE of the rumors, then we were on a side tangent about him.
ReplyDelete@ amber, thank you! I really thought I missed a piece! Lol
ReplyDelete@AKM- I've wondered the same after seeing the kids he's previously worked with speak so highly of him.
ReplyDelete@Tish & Nutty- my daughter loves that shit and it makes me want to gouge my own eyes out and then Davinci myself. Not only is it stereotypical but the acting is beyond awful, it's worse than Big Time Rush and I never thought anything could top that.
ReplyDeleteHey, don't be dissin' Big Time Rush now! ;)
ReplyDeleteSeriously AKM, the guilty until proven innocent mentality on the internet is really disturbing to me.
ReplyDeleteMaybe I just don't want Ricky Smith to be involved in that kind of stuff.
"Well Lane, I see you've made Monique's...acquaintance."
"With one look, you read me like a book..."
Okay, look: People here are spouting off without knowledge, and it's making them look like idiots.
ReplyDeleteIf someone is a "tweener" or becomes pregnant, then, by definition, someone having sex with them is not a pedophile.
The whole thing that's wrong with pedophiles is that, for them, the lack of primary and secondary sexual characteristics seen in pre-pubescense takes the place of gender as a trigger for arousal.
What we're looking at here -- what particular Nick show-runner and former young adult actor is frequently accused of -- is one or both of two things: Hebephilia or Ephebophelia.
Hebephilia is being primarily sexually attracted to pubescent individuals -- think 11-14 years old.
Ephebophila is being primarily attracted to mid-to-late adolescents -- think 14-19 years old.
None of them is good, but some are worse than others, and it brings discredit to all when they exaggerate a crime to generate greater outrage. It's a sleazy thing to manipulate a 15-year-old into the sack, but it's not, by orders of magnitude, the sickness of buggering a toddler.
Leaving aside that anybody calling someone out for any of these activities by name damned well has a responsibility to have more evidence than a fucking Internet gossip columnist, if you're going to accuse someone, even someone anonymous, of a sickness, know what you're damned well talking about, or STFU!
I do know what I'm talking about and underage is underage. Girls are developing much sooner than previously in regards to body development (widening of hips, breast development, menstruation). It doesn't change the fact that a girl can be 11 and have a period. If you are as intelligent as you're attempting to appear you should have tried to "school" people on a different topic. There is no "gray" area when it comes to pedophilia.
Delete@Reno- I can't help it lol
ReplyDelete@Ingrid Superstar - Ricky and Monique were fluent in the international language. Love. LOVE. You know, the language of LOVE?!
ReplyDeleteHaven't seen that flick in far too long. ;-)
this is mega sad. one wonders if the father is the producer of the show, or some other person w/power over her.
ReplyDeleteI guess the logical thing to do is to put her on teen moms.
As someone who deals with this commonly - the show is Jessie. Jessie with an "i".
ReplyDeleteWhat about that 14 year old who looks like she's 30?
I think it's Jeanette McCurdy, with her 40 year old writer on iCarly boyfriend. She can be a "tween star" without actually being a tween herself.
ReplyDelete@Leviathan, the justice system does not differentiate and calls them all pedophiles. The difference is in the punishment. So I would stop calling everyone idiots, it make you look stupid and petty.
ReplyDelete@Frufra, if it's Jeanette McCurdy, then it's not really an issue! She's of age, so is the guy. There is no scandal if it's all legit.
ReplyDelete@Leviathan, I guess we're all idiots here. It's a gossip site, FFS.
icarly is over and miranda (the sta) is at USC. victoria justice's show is over as well. BUT sam, from icarly and kat from th victoria justice show are going to star in a new show together.
ReplyDeletebecause it says nick star, and there is the option of writing it into h show, i'm going to guess teen nick and say one of the Degrassi girls.
@frufra, that is what I was thinking...it doesn't have to be a tween that is pg to be a tween star
ReplyDeleteAnd I have seen the whole pedophile, ephe, whatever lecture posted on this site before. Was that @leviathan or is this something that everyone knows except me?
Someone from degrassi. I can totally see them writing in a pregnancy on that show
ReplyDeleteVictorious was cancelled because the girls refused to do a musical tour to help sell CD's for Sony because the soundtrack was tanking. They said no so Sony said take a hike...heard that from an insider.
ReplyDeleteThe shitty show that Master P's daughter is on was cancelled because of incessant medalling by Master P. Nick had enough of his bullshit so they punished everyone by shutting it down.
The chick that played Sam on iCarly has a new show with one of the girls from Victorious. She could be the one who is pregnant. The show hasn't aired yet and I know they're shooting so this could throw a wrench in the works.
@ Kewi - Okay, I'll bite. What does "DaVinci myself" mean?
ReplyDelete@mybrothehero: Pedophiles don't like teens. They like pre-teens. This blind is about Ephebophilia.
ReplyDeleteYou are wrong. The DSM-IV-TR does not list it singularly; it is grouped into paraphilias NOS. Although that may change in the DSM V, it's a relatively new term. Thus, it would be someone engaging in pedophilic behavior, as although it is generally younger, that is a general rule, not the standard, and also by clinical judgement. Legally, it's not different at all.
DeleteAlthough if you are knowledgeable of this and may want to educate people, I don't think that on this subject it's a difference that people will care too much about insulting. The sexualization of kids are happening sooner and sooner. Though I certainly understand the clinical need to have people work with offenders, I also think that before someone is released into the general population, they should be chemically castrated or something of the sort to prevent recurrence. In this case someone's symptoms of illness increasing means that another child is offended on.
Pennsylvania recently made sex offender laws even tighter, thankfully. I just see way too many individuals that have been through molestation to budge on my viewpoint that all individuals that engage in sexual relationships with underage individuals (significant age difference) have something going on.
@Mango: probably cutting of your own ear(s) xD
ReplyDeleteTo add to that previous comment: sex with an underaged person is of course wrong, whether the boy/girl is a teen or a pre-teen. They didn't make laws for nothing :)
ReplyDeleteI'm just very anal about the right terms xD
NAMBLA would be proud.
DeleteWord, Agent. If you google the term it's a new term in psychology and although for clinical classification purposes it is useful, it seems there's a new branch that's almost being apologists for it. Makes me sick. That's really the only population I won't work with.
DeleteI can understand, I researched this and was appalled. It's not a push, it's a shove and it is not necessary. I enjoyed your post, informative.
DeleteThanks! I do appreciate that comment. I completely understand when people don't respond or ignore whatever I say (seem to have not fallen info the "right clique" for that to be. I dont ever want to appear that I know it all, because actually th opposite is true. Just when I have expertise in this field and have testified as an expert witness on some Chidren and Youth (or CPS dpending on what locationone is in) cases. Though iy's a terrible situation especially for the child, sometimes the kida aren't aware of anything different. I remember one case who, due th paternal isolation, always had the kids undress (daughters) as well as himself when giving them a haircut. Though that can be horrific by itself, the kids never new any "normal" way becuase that environment they grew up in was "just hooe dads do this. Another time I encounted an 18 month old diagnosed with gonnaherena (I know awful spellimg. AN 18 MONTH OLD. It was one of the most horrifying things I've come across. Ugh. Amkes me want to do serious damages to people like that.
Delete@ Shit You Can't Buy - Wouldn't that be "Van Gogh myself"??
ReplyDeleteBrain hurts...
The blind mentions a NICK series. Also doesn't mention timelines. There's no way in hell a tween star has a baby (unless her last name is Spears and exiles herself) and stays on one of these shows.
ReplyDeleteIt has to be one of the two who have shows which are ending. And, blecch. You'd think if these girls were going to be sexually active they'd ALSO be on the pill or something. Jesus.
LOL @auntliddy You just cracked me up! No idea who this is though. I know nothing about Nick shows.
ReplyDeleteOoh, @stanleyroper, thanks for the awesome Nick gossip. I have four daughters and the oldest three are glued to Nickelodeon ... I'd love to hear more dirt! And the show with Master P's daughter, is that ANT Farm? That show irritates me. My girls will be angry that Victorious, iCarly, and ANT Farm are all going off the air. :-(
ReplyDeleteDoubt this will ever come to light. Probably already had an abortion, whoever it is..
ReplyDelete@kewi - I feel your pain. The dumbing down of our daughters.
ReplyDelete@chopchop-ANT Farm is Disney. The show with Master P's daughter is called How To Rock. It stinks, she's not that talented and Nick has no problem cutting ties with it cuz they won't lose much in the long run. Nick always looks for break out stars on their shows and then fully gets behind them (record deals,merchandising,etc) so they (Nick) can cash in. HTR had no one who "broke out" so they lost interest especially when a billionaire who basically bought the show for his daughter to showcase her "talents" was constantly interfering.
ReplyDelete@ mybrothehero - Wow. I have to applaud you. I could not do the work you do.
ReplyDeleteLol-I came to ask who this "Nick" was with so much power...
ReplyDelete@mybrothehero - you're not in the wrong clique here, just don't become like the Former Criminal Prosecutor and you'll be fine!!
ReplyDelete@skydives1: The justice system has nothing to do with it. I doubt you can find a law on the books in any state in the country mentioning the word "pedophilia."
ReplyDeleteThe law is concerned with actions, not conditions, and the justice system addresses unlawful sexual contact with minors. If you did, too, you'd have a point to make, but when you call someone who had sex with a teenager a pedophile, you show you have as much common sense as someone who calls a property owner who burns down a building for insurace a pyromaniac.
@mybrothehero You clearly _don't_ know what you're talking about. Don't just talk to me, go do your own research: Peodphilia is sexual attraction to pre-pubescence. Once the target hits physical puberty, a pedophile will lose interest.
ReplyDeleteThis guy, whoever he is, is either a Hebephile or an Ephebophile.
Doesn't make it okay, but it still is what it is.
Victoria Justice's show was just announced as canceled.
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