Today is Friday, so it is announcement time. Not too many to make. I will be here all weekend, typing my fat fingers to the bone blogging away and revealing a blind item or two tomorrow. Lately there have been some really good ones. Sometimes I reveal them ahead of time on Twitter and also this week, I have some blind items on there that are not on the site so, please follow me @entylawyer
It is that time of the year for the annual MV clue. Normally it would be on the anniversary of the blog but that is over the weekend, so I thought I would give it to you today. Hard to believe it has been six years. I could not have done it without all of you.
I promised you an objective clue.
Combined, the first and last name equals 13 letters.
J-Lo
ReplyDeleteJLo
ReplyDeleteLopez & Spears are still in it!
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ReplyDeleteOH DAMN U R RIGHT LMAO
ReplyDeleteBoth JL and BS are 13, ARRRGHHHH
Britney Spears also = 13 letters, but I don't think it's her
ReplyDeleteJ-LO - you can hear Britney's speaking voice in many of her songs, behind the auto-tune. Not so much with J-lo.
ReplyDeleteI still think this is J Lo.
ReplyDeleteOk what is an MV clue?
ReplyDeleteJen Lopez
ReplyDeleteJlo, but she sounds the same speaking and singing. I just thought she was autotuned to dear life.
ReplyDeleteClick on the MV tag to read the blind items about MV.
ReplyDeleteMV Clue? I vaguely remember this blind - can someone clue me in - please and thanks!
ReplyDeleteWell 13's my lucky number and I counted Britney Spear's letters first and was thrilled. Then I came on here and read that JLo is 13 letters too. Guess I'll just wait for the wonderful CDANer's to come up with their guesses. Not thrilled about it possibly being Britney, just that's the name I thought of first. Forgot about jLo
ReplyDeleteJlo, Christina Milian sang part of 'PLay' (she also wrote it) and you can hear that clearly in the chorus.
ReplyDeleteI don't think it's Britney based on her being in the industry as a child.
ReplyDeleteGeorge Clooney! ftw
ReplyDeleteI really believe it's JLo. Obviously we know now she's not particularly talented, but at the time of the original MV blind this would've been way more shocking. She has been involved in some shady stuff over her career and seems to have a quite the reputation for being a diva and power hungry. A large scale deception like this would be completely plausible for her, IMO. Plus, Britney does sing live on occasion (she did at least one song when I saw her this summer) and she did on TV nervously singing "Happy Birthday" to LA Reid. Her voice has had consistently the same sound over her career, though not as polished live.
ReplyDeleteWasn't a clue that her name was hyphenated or had a nickname?
ReplyDeleteLong story short, this popular singer was doing a "Milli Vanilli" thus MV using the vocal prowess of a session singer who was unaware she was being used. The session singer got a nice settlement for keeping quiet, Enty who is an entertainment lawyer was part of the contracts team but due to his signing of a confidentiality agreement cannot just outright tell us. He present this blind several years ago and each year on it's anniversary we get a clue as to who this pop star is.
ReplyDeleteIt's NOT Britney Spears.
ReplyDeleteCheck against enty's earlier MV blind:http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2009/11/happy-anniversary-and-todays-blind.html
"S is a sessions/studio/backup singer and is very good........
In late 2000 , a man came to her one day and said he needed someone to record some demos ..."
Britney's debut album Baby One More Time was released in 1999, so Britney was already a start by the time S started recording for MV.
J-Lo for the win!
Jennifer Lopez....with Diddy being the guy behind it who stopped making payments to the real singer.
ReplyDeleteI always thought the man behind this was Benny Medina, JLo's on again, off again manager. Plus, the real singer didn't know who the guy was when he approached her. I think she would have recognized P. Diddy.
DeleteWhat was the MV blind?
ReplyDeleteI believe the clues were-
ReplyDeleteShe is AMERICAN
She was MARRIED
She has CHILDREN
and now she has 13 LETTERS in her first and last name combined.
Did I miss one?
yvettie...under the blind, click the label "MV" and all the blinds related to it will appear
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ReplyDeletehttp://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2012/11/four-for-friday-mv-clue.html?m=0
@Montana - add the hyphenate/nickname someone mentioned above :)
ReplyDelete"J-LO - you can hear Britney's speaking voice in many of her songs, behind the auto-tune. Not so much with J-lo"
ReplyDeleteActually, very much so with J-Lo. I really don't think this is either of them. Bertney and J-Lo are both, and not secretly, doubled by other singers - singers who are credited as backup singers on the albums. Plus, we've heard them both sing little snippets of songs in interviews and such.
I've said this before, but I'd kind of be disappointed if the answer to the blind is one of them. Remember, if this came out, it would "shock the industry to its core". Hearing that J-Lo or Britney Spears don't do all their own vocals would shock about zero people. If I was one of the sweeteners for one of them, I'd be pretty pissed at "S" for making this all about her *L*
I was just typing a longer version of what Cecilia00 said. Thinking logically, and without regard to who's voice sounds like what, it makes more sense for this to be J-Lo. J-Lo was already a dancer and up and coming actress before her albums came out. Add singing to her resume, along with being attractive and Latino, you've got a marketing and money making machine. Britney was a child a teen singer/actress from Mickey Mouse Club, but was really a nobody. From strictly a financial perspective, what would make more sense for a record label - put an unknown, attractive 17 yr old out there for her first album, AND pay the real singer too behind the scenes, or just find an attractive, unknown 17 yr old who actually can sing?
ReplyDeleteYes there was that clue about the hyphenated name. I believe that this is J-Lo. I always go back to the beginning of the blog when everything was much smaller and pure. Britney was excluded. Also, there was a one day clue that Enty put up and erased the next day and I believe that it was MV had never appeared in the blog before that time period. At the time I was sure it was Shania, but she was excluded when he said she was born in the US. I am going to verify when J-Lo made her first appearance here.
ReplyDeleteJennifer Lopez ftw! Its NOT Britney Spears.
ReplyDeleteJ Lo doesn't have a particularly strong singing voice, though. J Lo's got a voice that's good enough for a movie star, not the voice of a professional vocalist. I find it hard to believe that anyone aside from a movie star could get famous with a voice that just-okay, and I don't feel like a professional back-up singer would really be able to make a living with a voice that mediocre. Enty made it seem, in the original MV post, like S has a very strong voice.
ReplyDeleteObviously one doesn't need a super strong singing voice to get famous - Ke$ha, Miley Cyrus, whoever else have proved that - but all of them are believable as vocalists because they DON'T sound amazing. No one would pay someone else with that unimpressive a voice to ghost-sing their songs for them. And I think the same is true of J Lo.
So, sorry, I think it's maybe not J Lo, even though she's definitely shady and ruthlessly ambitious enough.
@SKOR Enty did say that this is the one blind that he fudged the dates on.
ReplyDeleteI guess I haven't been following this blog long enough to know what "MV" means. Can y'all please explain? Whatever it is, it sounds like there's something juicy about it!
ReplyDelete"...Enty who is an entertainment lawyer was part of the contracts team but due to his signing of a confidentiality agreement cannot just outright tell us."
ReplyDeleteSo, we will never get an outright reveal then, correct?
J-Lo seems to fit the best, but is there anyone else about whom the reveal would "shock the industry to its core"? Are we forgetting anyone?
In the original BI, I just noticed one thing that throws a wrench in it being JLO
ReplyDelete"This involved literally millions of CD's and hundreds of concerts all over the world..The one thing I did get out of this beside my fee of course is a Gold Record autographed by S and by MV..I know it is the only one in the world"
JLO NEVER EVER TOURED till she got married to Marc Anthony then they toured together. Sony knew she would have low ticket sales so they only let her do so when coupled with his international appeal.
Ok nevermind, I now see previous responses to my question. Very, very interesting :)
ReplyDeletemaybe J-Lo is that good of an actress to fool us with her voice. I keep thinking of her past songs and it sounds like her singing is her speaking voice? Maybe I'm tonedeaf from hearing her songs.
ReplyDelete@MamaCanTango - Scroll up. MontanaMarriott recapped the whole story.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone deduced how many albums S has recorded? Also everyone says it's J.Lo but the blind specifies that a man came to her in late 2000. J-Lo's On the 6 was released on June 1, 1999 from the info I found.
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ReplyDelete@Agent- thank you for the link, some of us on mobile don't have an MV tag to click, much appreciated :)
ReplyDeleteNvm it just leads back to this page but thanks anyways :)
DeleteKewi, I figured that out the hard way.
DeleteAlso, OT and nobody yell at me, but if you read CDaN on a PC or Laptop (the "black background"), try this:
http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/?m=1
IT is Enty's mobile site link and it works on a regular old PC.
Long time reader, 1st time poster:
ReplyDeleteI went through all the old MV clues and heres what I have an how it relates to JLo (really don't think it's britney, i've heard her sing live in person - and she has that certain tone to her voice, and she sang happy birthday acapello on Xfactor the other week and although it wasn't great, it was Britney)... ok now onto the clues:
US Born Female singer with 13 letters in name
Top 40 hits, multiple cds
Millions of CDs sold, 100s of concerts
~2006 personal/professional issues (was thinking about doing an indepth interview)
was once or was currently married (Nov. 2009)
@ least one child (Nov. 2009)
Separated and/or divorced at least 1time (Nov. 2009)
Has or was married to someone with nickname or a hyphenation in nickname
If it is JLo who would the husband with the nickname be? I know a lot of people thought Britney for this one based on
DeleteK-Fed.
Lotta.
DeleteCristan Leenon "Cris" Judd
Thanks Agent**It. I had no idea he shortened his name.
DeleteI don't think it's either one of them
ReplyDeleteI thought another clue was that she was divorced.
ReplyDeleteAlso one big big clue was that her second album did better than her first. I think this clue was what eliminated many people.
JLo said herself she can't sing, while filming Selena. She is very adept at lip syncing. I wouldn't be shocked if it were her, but I would be shocked that they did this and pulled this off. It's a huge scam. Look at the original MV...that created an uproar and they were no where near at Jen's level of fame.
ReplyDelete@MAC - thanks. I missed the reference to the dates.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I was wrong about the timelines - J-Lo's debut album On the 6 was also released in 1999, so both J-Lo and Britney fit for this.
J.lo sang her first single "if you had my love" in summer 1999, and her first album released in 1999.
ReplyDeleteit is not j.lo or britney...
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ReplyDeleteHas or was married to someone with nickname or a hyphenation in nickname:
ReplyDeleteCristan Leenon "Cris" Judd = J Lo's x
Will we ever really know? This is such bull because enty will never tell us!
ReplyDeleteWho said Enty was a probate lawyer? That interview? I doubt that was even enty that gave the interview.
ReplyDelete@Maja - I suspect that unless it's someone like Aretha Franklin (obv it's not), the answer will be disappointing no matter what. So much time has passed that by the time this is revealed, the person probably won't matter anymore.
ReplyDeleteEntward has always seemed to have a soft spot for Britney and is usually less-than-patient with J-Lo. Plus, Britney was a child singing star. J-Lo was just a determind dancer from the Bronx who realized she could parlay her performance in 'Selena' into being a pop star.
ReplyDeleteI am still on board with Jenny from the block.
If Enty fuded on the dates a little this could be J-Lo. It seems her second album was more successful than the first. The link is after the quote:
ReplyDelete"In 1999, Lopez released her debut studio album On the 6, which spawned the number one hit single, If You Had My Love. Her second studio album, J.Lo (2001), was a commercial success, selling eight million copies worldwide. J to tha L-O!: The Remixes (2002), became her second consecutive album to debut at number one on the Billboard 200. Her third and fourth studio albums—This Is Me... Then (2002) and Rebirth (2005)—peaked at number two on the Billboard 200."
http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Jennifer_Lopez.html
Am I the only one repulsed by JLo's singing? So if they paid someone money to sing this badly just to hide that she sings that much worse....doesn't sound quite right!
ReplyDeleteAm I the only one repulsed by JLo's singing? So if they paid someone money to sing this badly just to hide that she sings that much worse....doesn't sound quite right!
ReplyDeleteDidn't Enty say that when he died this would be revealed as well as all the others?
ReplyDeleteQuick timeline as well. S was recruited in late 2000, recorded for several weeks, MONTHS later she heard song on the radio.
ReplyDeleteAbout 9 months after she met the guy who approached and gave her money she was asked to record again for a tour.
This means MV was touring sometime in late 2001 or early 2002.
I LOVED Milli Vanilli and I miss them. I don't care if someone else sang on their tracks--it's not their singing I liked them for!
ReplyDeleteMILLI VANILLI FOREVER!!!!!!
He said he would reveal it if one of them died. He says a lot, this Entwood!
ReplyDeleteI think this is j lo. She seems shady enough and dealt with shady ppl....like Diddy and I've read not so good things about Benny medina.
ReplyDeleteto the people saying j-lo wouldn't shock the music industry, are you serious??? she's made MILLIONS up millions pretending to sing and has won awards and has fooled everyone for over 10 years, you don't think that would be a scandal? really???
ReplyDelete@goes in circles - Are you suggesting a lynch mob?
ReplyDeleteAgree with @Maja. I've never believed it was J-Lo, either. She sounds like she sings, and it wouldn't be a shocker.
ReplyDeleteI CALLED IT!! Jennifer Lopez!!!!
ReplyDeleteDammit, Britney Spears also has 13 letters. Crap.
ReplyDeleteAfter checking a list of the top 200 female singers of all time, Jennifer and Britney are the ONLY 2 that have 13 letters and are American-born. It can't be Sinead O'Connor, right?
ReplyDeleteBecause I'm a nerd, I just sat and counted the names of LOTS of singers and so far the only two with 13 letters I've come up with are Britney and JLo. I even tried taking into consideration if they have a "real" name i.e. Madonna Ciccone (14). So, when searching for names also consider if someone's real vs stage name has 13 letters.
ReplyDeleteAmber, Amber, my dear Amber.. Time for a gossip intervention ? Shall we call Dr Pil ? Dr. Drewey ?
DeleteOh my, yall are funny!
DeleteOh my, yall are funny!
DeleteI really don't think it's Britney! She sounds just how she talks!!!!
ReplyDeleteFSP
ReplyDeleteYou in?
Actually if enty died Idk what I would do all day. Lol
One thing that we also have to take into account is that while it may not be shocking to US (rabid gossip fans), to the average person it may be very shocking.
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ReplyDelete@Agent - Please don't let it be Dr. Phil. His Chiclets freak me out.
ReplyDeleteEverything about Dr.Pil is scary . But Dr.Drewey is scarier. I just can't even type their real names they are so skeavy.. I must shower:)
DeleteI can't believe she got away with it. Going off now to YouTube to listen to her older "music" and compare it with her newer stuff.
ReplyDeleteI hate that she is still even recording to this day!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i8d68dzYeM
ReplyDeleteLong time lurker, after seeing that youtube video, i don't think it's JLO, she sounds as awful as she does on her songs.
PS I love it here :)
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ReplyDeleteJust for the sake of something far flung:
ReplyDeleteI know MV says singer(singular) and talks about the late 2000s, but what if MV was a group? Enty made a point in one of his subsequent blog entries that he was seriously fudging details to protect the info, so it's possible MV's makeup has been obscured this whole time. Since we can't quite make J-Lo's career match the touring and records sold info, could this possibly be about Destiny's Child?
Just a thought. I could see Matthew Knowles doing this to flesh out their early sound, and then coming up short on cash to siphon for this particular thing as Beyonce started her solo career.
They have: 13 letters, are American, female, married, parents, have separated (as a group), and Beyonce is married to the hyphenated Jay-Z.
Throwing it out, just for funsies.
I think this would have to be someone who is considered at least a "very good" singer, as the original blind states that "S" is very good.
ReplyDeleteNot to offend anyone, but I would say that the general public does not consider either Britney or J-Lo to be a very good singer. They are appreciated more for their appearance, dance moves and general showmanship (showgirlship?).
Happy Anniversary! Love the original MV blind!
ReplyDeleteAccording to Wikipedia( I know, not the best source, but make of it as you will)- J-Lo had 2 concerts in 2001, and was scheduling a full tour for 2002- which fell through in the midst of planning.
Did Enty ever say the tour happened, or there was just a tour in the works? Did we just assume a tour since it was mentioned?
OTH- Britney had huge tours in 2001-2. But, the Britney Star Search material shows she had talent before.
Karrots- Regina and Colbie have both appeared on the market since the original MV blind. I figured it would need to be someone older than that. And according to Wikipedia (always accurate), Regina was born in Moscow.
ReplyDeleteThis all seems to point to J-LO but the tour thing is throwing me off. Just for kicks, what about Ashlee Simpson though I don't know it would be earth shattering or that the hyphenation clue fits.
ReplyDelete@ Mae Mae - Dumb question: How can you record for tour? Is it for a prerecorded tracks singers sometimes sing to during a tour?
ReplyDeleteOops Karrots beat me to it
ReplyDelete@ Rins - I like your idea. What if it's someone older who tried a comeback album in 2000/2001? I can't think of anyone who fits but do we know for sure it's a pop singer? What about a county singer?
ReplyDeleteRemember Enty said it was NOT Mandy Moore, Pink, Norah Jones, or Beyonce
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ReplyDeleteTLC
Huge in Sales, Toured, Multiple Grammy Awards
Singer:
Tionne 'T-Boz' Watkins
13 Letters
Child
Separated from "mack 10"
Payd by:
Diddy for Studio Album
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TLC_%28band%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tionne_Watkins
WHO would be shocked by J Lo? NO ONE thinks she has a strong, beautiful voice.
ReplyDeleteThis is supposed to be a shocker.
It is NOT J Lo.
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ReplyDelete@ Rins - Great theory. Plus I thought there was a blind item about how (i am paraphrasing) a singer whose singing voice change bc singer's had a nose job. I felt like the singer had the nose job to improve her voice. Beyonce's voice at first was not as strong (using that term loosely) as it is now and she did have slight nose job. I only say her voice is stronger now bc she does sing live (I think). What are your thoughts my fellow gossip junkies?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij4sfw1OoUY
ReplyDeleteI really wish Fergie (Stacy Ferguson) had a kid. I've always suspected she doesn't have the pipes.
ReplyDeleteI have saying it was J Lo from the beginning, glad you're all coming round. ;)
ReplyDeleteGroup:
ReplyDeleteTLC
Huge in Sales, Toured, Multiple Grammy Awards
Singer:
Tionne 'T-Boz' Watkins
13 Letters
Child
Separated from "mack 10"
Payd by:
Diddy for Studio Album
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TLC_%28band%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tionne_Watkins
Also, remember when J-Lo performed at some awards show with Marc and they sang the whole thing in Spanish? That really seemed like she was singing it. Also, I thought one clue said MV was not going to release any more music again once S got her final payout and J-Lo has performed for New Year's and released songs since then.
ReplyDeleteThose performances were all recent. The blind said that S wasn't going to record for MV anymore and all future albums would be done on her own. There was even a clue last year that MV released an album within the year. MV never gave up music.
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij4sfw1OoUY
ReplyDeleteEvidence.
Been saying, yawn its early here
ReplyDelete@Borg Queen. I assume MV used prerecorded tracks that were just mixes of her songs recorded by S. Not really sure how it works, but that is what the blinds say (or at least what I got out of it).
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ReplyDeleteMorning Astro! How is your Saturday?
ReplyDeleteTotally JLo....there's an interview she did back in the day for Selena where they asked if she sang any tracks for the movie and she laughed and said she couldn't sing. Looking for a link....
ReplyDeleteI have always said JLo and sticking to it! She fits the bitchiness, Britney doesn't.
ReplyDeleteGroup:
ReplyDeleteTLC
Huge in Sales, Toured, Multiple Grammy Awards
Singer:
Tionne 'T-Boz' Watkins
13 Letters
Child
Separated from "mack 10"
Payd by:
Diddy for Studio Album
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TLC_%28band%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tionne_Watkins
Plus, Britney could sing, although I'm not sure how much damage she has done to her vocal cords.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW-X9zF_S1c&feature=related
@Rins -- way to throw a curveball! LOVE IT! The only thing that doesn't fit is marital status... I think.
ReplyDeleteI was re-reading some of enty's blinds of days gone by (should that be a new MV song?). E's tone is so different. Re-reading the past blinds felt like sitting down with an old friend for coffee.
Ps - to Maja and others - we have to remember that the "shocked to the core" was written way back when while referring to AT THAT TIME. Yes, at that time I would have been shocked to learn it wasn't really Britney OR JLo singing. Now we know better ;)
ReplyDeleteEnty ALSO said on Nov. 10, 2011 that MV had released a CD within the past 12 months. That is another important clue.
ReplyDeleteI am good thanks Dia, its gonna be a busy day here ;)
ReplyDelete@Agent**It - You are my hero!
ReplyDeleteOk now that's funny Rins. I was thinking that too and thought oh that's too far out there... but maybe not??
ReplyDeleteGroup:
ReplyDeleteTLC
Huge in Sales, Toured, Multiple Grammy Awards
Singer:
Tionne 'T-Boz' Watkins
13 Letters
Child
Divorced from "mack 10" / mac-10
Payd by:
Diddy for Studio Album
Released new Album Tribute June 13, 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TLC_%28band%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tionne_Watkins
Okay - but J.Lo's album came out in June of '99. Just months after Britney's. In a "Premiere" magazine article from Feb. of 1999 there was a reporter that actually observed J.Lo in the recording studio. Now, she might very well have just been there for the sake of appearance and quite possibly no recording of her "singing" might have occured.
ReplyDeleteHey, Rocket.
Totally JLo....there's an interview she did back in the day for Selena where they asked if she sang any tracks for the movie and she laughed and said she couldn't sing. Looking for a link....
ReplyDeleteI think Unknown has something to say.
ReplyDeleteShe sounded awful in that YouTube post above!!!! Lol!!!!
ReplyDeletei'd love to know who actually sang On The Six album, i love that album and would love to hear more from that artist, becuase in no way is the Jennifer's voice compared to her lastest efforts that P.Diddy had nothing to do with.
ReplyDeleteMV is Jennifer Lopez till the day I die.
I'm intrigued by Rins theory along with Unknown's TLC guess.
ReplyDeleteIt really seems like J-Lo because all the clues fit, but I'm on track with the people who are saying that she doesn't have a great voice. Backup singers have great voices.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if we're missing somebody. Have the clues confirmed it's a pop singer? If not, what about a country star?
I also like the Destiny's Child guess... except Beyonce sang "At Last" at Obama's inauguration, and I doubt that she would have been allowed to lip synch it there.
Take this all with a grain of salt. If Enty is actually an attorney (which I don't think he is because he makes a lot of foolish law mistakes in his posts), he could get disbarred for this whole thing. So either he's lying about the blind or lying about his job, or both.
ReplyDeleteLol @ FSP
ReplyDelete@WW: Good point. I do know the instrumental inauguration music was pre-recorded, but I'm not sure if Aretha and Beyonce were or not.
ReplyDeleteI'm not convinced it's Destiny's Child at all, for the record. I'm just not sold on J-Lo and thought it'd be fun to go a different direction with this. Black Eyed Peas could work, too.
@FSP
ReplyDeleteYou´re right :-)
figured, that there is less reading guesses and more try to fit jlo into the picture
so to get some momentum i inserted it again. now that others start discussing it, it will be considered. and it is a pretty valid guess
:-)
I've been reading this blog for awhile, but this is the first I've noticed the whole MV issue. Has anyone ever paid attention to this item that was circulated around 2008?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.celebitchy.com/10300/henry_rollins_says_britneys_voice_is_blended_with_another_womans_on_her_album/
I vote Britney. I bet the payments hit pause when she went crazy and had the conservatorship established, because then all of Britney's expenses had to be vetted.
I think someone posted this above but attached with an easy to click link.
ReplyDeleteJ Lo singing badly
Britney sang happy birthday. Remember that clip Enty posted for us a few weeks ago.
ReplyDeleteBritney can actually sing. Maybe that was a not-so-subtle clue from the Bacon Man.
I don't know if this fits J-Lo, but ever since I read this I pictured it being her and I think she is shrewd enough for it to be her. My only problem is that I keep thinking it would be someone who is known for being a better singer, like a Mariah Carey (though she definitely doesn't fit the clues)
ReplyDeleteIt's not J-Lo. I just found this on YouTube. Not sure if this is the link others have posted, but it's a recording of her singing rather badly in the studio. My point about it is, SHE is singing in the studio. Not doing a great job of it, but it's her voice, the same voice on her records.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij4sfw1OoUY
Madonna's name would work if you used her name of Esther ciccone. Not that I think it is her
ReplyDeleteI don't think anyone should use the argument that the secret singer sounds like the fraud. There are a lot of singers whose speaking voices are different. I sing nothing like my speaking voice. Jim Neighbors a good example .Also if you're going to fake it wouldn't you get someone who DOES sound like their speaking voice? Isn't that part of the ruse?
ReplyDeleteI so believe this is Jennifer Lopez. While Britney can't sing while she's dancing all over the place (and very few people can!) she can still sing.
gloria estefan
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so when does it say cris-judd????
Unknown, "Has or was married to someone with nickname or a hyphenation in nickname."
DeleteNickname, not hyphen :
Cristan Leenon Judd AKA "Cris" Judd
It's definitely not Fergie. Fergie was on Kids Incorporated forever ago and she sang on that show as well. I used to watch religiously when I got home from school. Hah.
ReplyDeleteUntil Enty "not-ed" her, I thought this was Beyonce. In one of the MV posts, I posted links to a studio singer who sounds *exactly* like Beyonce. She sings on some of the Bratz cartoon movies (don't judge) and when I first heard those songs I thought it was odd Beyonce would do cheesy movie soundtracks. Obviously it wasn't Beyonce but it was shortly after I saw those movies that this blind was posted and I immediately thought Beyonce. That being said, most of the personal life clues don't fit her ... she was never divorced and didn't have a child at the time.
ReplyDeleteLA Mac, OMG, that WOULD be a shocker...
ReplyDeleteOoo, @LottaColada, you just summarized what I was thinking. Since we found a recording of J-Lo singing in the studio (badly, but unquestionably her) maybe that was her attempt to do it on her own.
ReplyDeleteImagine if you had started what snowballed into a massive career based on such a huge fabrication. If it were me, I'd be terrified it would all come crashing down one day, just like what happened to the real MV. One of those guys committed suicide because of it all, but not before they tried to sing for real.
So maybe J-Lo is trying to sing for real now. I don't listen to her music so I don't know this — has anyone compared the voice on her first album to her voice now?
Her first albums were relatively good. I remember the original singles off of her album Love? were so bad the whole album was reworked and released a year later in 2011. Look up the songs Fresh Out The Oven & Louboutins. Those songs are from 2010 yet the don't appear on that album and next thing you know she joined American Idol and released On The Floor which was a huge hit.
DeleteHere are some links to that singer who sounds like Beyonce: Beyonce?
ReplyDeleteAnother one
Another stretch: Natalie Maines.
ReplyDeleteDivorced, kids, American, 13 letters, husband Adrian Pasdar's career is hyphenated, as he's an actor-director, was featured on two albums in the early 2010's, even though the Dixie Chicks haven't recorded an album since 2006 (possibly why they couldn't pay the singer).
I'm an elementary music teacher with laryngitis, so the kiddos are watching a musical today and I'm really bored. :)
The clues here could all fit ashlee simpson, funny!
ReplyDeletePeople stop getting hung up on imagined clues.
ReplyDeleteNOWHERE has any clue said MV is thought of as a great singer, just that it would rock the Industry.
Every clue only fits one person, J Lo.
@Rocket, hi! RocketPrincess is looking supercute! Hope all's well with you - xoxo.
ReplyDeleteI haven't read all the clues but I think I have a good idea. J Lo did Selena flawlessly. Back in the day I thought she was really singing. She pulled that off so well, has the look and can dance, so she was approached with this concept of having a ghost singer and Jenny can make millions! I think that's a perfect way of how all this got started.
ReplyDeleteJLO.
ReplyDeleteBritney removed herself from MV possibility when she sang happy birthday on X Factor. It sounds like Britney speaks and very close to how she sings. So, I'm sticking with JLO.
Plus eff JLO.
This did bump Whitney out which would have been RIDICULOUSLY shocking.
doesn't fit for Tionne 'T-Boz' Watkins... one of the clues posted on Nov. 2011 says she released an album in the last 12 months... which is the time frame of Nov. 2010 to Nv. 2011... neither Tboz or TLC had anything out in that time frame unless i'm missing something...
ReplyDelete@astrogirl The clues say S is a great singer--i.e. the one on the records--not MV. The argument against J-Lo is that her records don't have a "wow" voice singing them.
ReplyDeleteI vote Britney, not due to her lack of natural talent, but due to her lack of mental stability. It might have been hard to get her in the recording studio for 20 hours at a stretch.
Also want to point out, guys, that previous guesses and posts have suggested other fudged details, so I'm not necessarily stuck on the year 2000 per se...
ReplyDeleteI don't think it could be Natalie Maines. I don't know that she or Adrian have any well-known nicknames/name abbreviations/whatever it was, for one, plus she's done live a cappella singing. She also sings how she speaks.
ReplyDeleteI think I found something!!! If you click on the "S" tag at the end of the original blind you'll see that today's Random Photos P3 also has the "S" tag. Is "S: CeeLo Green?? Damn good singer.
ReplyDeleteI just listened to "if you had my love" and this could definitely be another person
ReplyDeleteAssuming that the clue about S recording different versions of songs so it would sound like MV was singing live while on tour, we should be focusing on different videos from the same tour circa that era of the usual suspects. Let's say they rotated the "live" singing tracks every concert, then every few live concerts would sound the same. Does this make sense?
ReplyDeletePart of me says it isn't J.Lo because she sucks as a singer, but at the time the blind was written, she had been all the rage (no one was bigger than Bennifer in the tabs) and people were looking to take her down a few pegs. Gigli was terrible, but people were overly harsh on it because of her & Affleck in it. It WOULD have been a huge scandal if this had been found out in the Bennifer era.
Ent has said it is not
ReplyDeleteMandy Moore
Pink
Norah Jones
Beyonce
Tried posting this earlier - but, it didn't seem to take...
ReplyDeleteMadonna's full name is Madonna Louise, which equals 13 letters. Enty never said the 13 letter combo was first and last name...
Picture MV being Madonna - and her secret coming to light...now, THAT would be explosive - much more so than Britney or JLo, IMO.
She's never been a strong singer on her own, and has been way over-produced during her career - especially in recent years (after she cut 'S' loose?).
Madonna has also performed hundreds of concerts/events - has JLo really performed hundreds? Also, haven't a great deal of JLo's concerts been Spanish language, with Marc A, her ex?
She's divorced, and she'd had one child, another Enty clue.
Enty also stated that 'Guy'(used in lieu of MV's agents name) was the person who ultimately paid off 'S'. Madonna was married to Guy Ritchie.
Whoever MV is, she's a diva who throws attitude and believes her own hype...granted, this could be anyone from JLo to Minaj - but, it fits divalicious Madge to a T...
You are all missing the fact that MV is a "B list reality star who seems to never have a boyfriend that sticks."
ReplyDeleteTaken from the BI where he lists who it ISN'T: Mandy Moore, Pink, Norah Jones, Beyonce.
never mind, I wa thinking S was the producer. *confused and blushing*
ReplyDeleteOops...wait...I get it now. BUT it could be that the producer had something to do with MV, which prompted Enty to write this blind.
ReplyDeleteBritney was an established child singer.
ReplyDeleteJ Lo was a back up dancer trying to break into acting who happened to know and date some shady producer types.
She did such a great job with Selena, they all saw an opportunity and they took it.
Tell me how else a previously unknown singer who doesnt write her own songs gets executive producer credits on her album.
Remember P Diddy and the nightclub shooting? Why they are still close? She was mega pissed off but stood by him, why? Because he helped create the illusion, so she had to stand by him.
When Enty,said MV was everywhere at the time think of J Lo, she had a number one album and movie in the same week plus a tabloid romance. You could not pick up a popular magazine and not see her.
madonna never stopped to restart last year or so. who is the hyphenated friend/ex
ReplyDeleteOkay i went back through all the clues and calling JLO
ReplyDeletewas married at least once by 11/2009
has been divorced at least once
has a child by 11/09 (twins born 2/2008)
nickmname with hypenation in it.
CD released within a year of 11/11
name is 13 lettes
i cant find anything that doesnt add up
I've been "On the Six" with JLo for a while. As others have pointed out, it would have been really shocking a few years ago and would still shock casual listeners.
ReplyDeleteHow about Skelator as the nickname for Marc Antony (which is just his first and middle name anyway)
Also, so much fake about her. She doesn't even have the same face she had as a fly girl. And she could definitely be singing live in the studio with the other singer mixed in later during production.
J-FRAUD did some concerts in 2001. She also did some concert t.v. specials and performed "live" (if that's what you call it) on the MTV Video awards that year.
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let's_Get_Loud_(concerts)
"The concerts marks Lopez's first "touring" experience since her music debut in 1999."
That could be what Enty was referring to when he was talking about when she started touring.
I do think this is J-FRAUD and it would very much shock people not because of her less than stellar voice, but because the majority of her appeal to her fans is how supposedly "real and authentic" she is. When she first blew up in 1999, she was part of that whole Latin Explosion thing. Her humble beginnings and subsequent rise to fame in not just movies, but in dance and music, fashion, etc. made her a role model to girls all over the world, particularly young women in the Latin community. Her appeal was based strongly on how hard she worked and how multi-talented she is. Also, because she portrayed herself just like the young women who were buying her albums, watching her shows and going to her movies. She came off as one of them. Jenny from the Block, indeed. Remember the general public does not read the backstage gossip we do. Many people still look at these celebrities with rose colored glasses.
If it came out she used a fake voice a la Milli Vanilli the backlash she would get would possibly be huge. She would be considered a complete lie to millions of her fans that look at her as an inspiration of what they might be able to achieve one day themselves. But I do agree with others, that if this came out in the early 2000's, it would be a much bigger story.
For the producer, I think it is either P. Douchey or Tommy Motolla. If it is the Puffy one, I can also see him getting a backlash, because just like his ex-girlfriend, his rise to fame had much to do with working hard from the ground up. Using a fake singer would discredit him as a Music Producer tremendously. I never found him to be that great and felt he piggy-backed off of the Notorious B.I.G. and other artists he signed to his label early on. But that is for another topic.
J-FRAUD is M.V. Now I really wonder who "S" is.
@Michele - it's still a good eagle eye on that tag, though. Maybe someone in one of the pics is tied to S in some way?
ReplyDeleteAmber- The Flying Nun is in the pix today. Just Sayin'
DeleteS = Christina Milian or Ashanti ?
ReplyDeleteI think it is an older person who was really really famous, before JLo and Britney.
ReplyDeleteOh also, for those who have suggested Ashlee Simpson, she's immediately out of the running from the very first line of the original MVBI.
ReplyDeleteI think S is the information Enty fudged, rightly so as S leads back to him.
ReplyDeleteI don't think S is Christina Milian (as much as I think her voice can sound similar to JLo's), because in the blind it says that S doesn't "really have that "look" which would make her a star, so record companies did not put her out front, but just used her talents." Christina Milian is pretty gorgeous by a lot of people's standards.
ReplyDeleteS supposedly did not have the "look" to make it on her own. She also had been battling cancer (breast, I think) at one point and MV visited her in the hospital.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if this is why she left American Idol. Marc has to know about this. Messy divorce. Maybe he threatened to take it public. Imagine if she had been on that show and it came out she faked singing.
ReplyDelete@Agent - know what, you're right. Maybe S was meant to be "Sally Field" but he accidentally hit enter on the tag and didn't notice.
ReplyDeleteAmber, yes, that is exactly what happened!
DeleteI don't think Marc knew, I don't think the record company knew. Only J Lo, Benny M and P Diddy, maybe Ben Affleck another ex she seems to keep very close.
ReplyDeleteDestiny's Child has 13 letters :)
ReplyDeleteI think the 'shock the industry to the core' requirement is just a red herring.
ReplyDeleteseriously, would anything these days shock any entertainment industry to the core?
maybe if it were mariah carey, which it clearly isn't, or whitney houston, which it also clearly isn't, the industry would have been shocked to the core.
but, just about every other singer out there, with a few exceptions, is auto tuned. and while I don't watch the x factor or the voice regularly, I see a clip once in a while, and it surprises me how some of singers - who are considered the best - sing really off key.
so, it seems it not britney. she was famous as a child and can sing and is on video singing. she's no christina, but she can sing. she is always auto tuned, but everybody is these days.
so, it seems to me then j-lo is the obvious choice by process of deduction.
Hi guys, long time reader via dlisted and first time poster here. Has X-Tina Aguilera (13 letters and a hyphen) been excluded yet? THAT might rock the industry to it's core.
ReplyDelete@Alli G, agreed. I think back to '99-2000 when JLo was a hot "triple threat" it would have shocked the millions who bought her albums that it was all a lie. Plus, every gig she's had since then has been because of her "success." Plus, I think she really tried to record tracks in the studio and the producer (p diddy?) knew it was a bust unless he hired a real singer to pull off a hit record. Which is exactly what happened and he, JLo and the record company made millions.
ReplyDeleteNo way it's Christina Aguilera, Frieda. When I watched The Voice, she would always belt out part of song here or there, typically to upstage someone. Kind of annoying but SHE CAN SANG.
ReplyDeleteIn the original post someone commented that they had heard the story before and questioned how ent could be a lawyer for a few reasons and one of them being the dates were fudged and the people involved were New York based so how did they walk into his la office. Ent responded after saying he never said the people involved weren't New York based.
ReplyDeleteI think it's jlo. Only reason people didnt think her was the lack of tours but that could have been exaggerated. The New York thing also points in her direction.
Yes it would blow them away, even today.
ReplyDeleteAs Alli G said so well above, she has carefully and painstakingly manufactured an image of a real girl from the block who made it to the top by working hard.
If they knew it was fake from the start the backlash throughout not only music but the entire entertainment industry would be catastrophic.
The original Milli Vanilli damaged the industry, it took a long time to recover face and they were nobodies, yet everybody still knows what they did.
Jlo had a gap in albums between 2002 to 2005 and that album was named "Rebirth"... Just sayin'. Also the only name consistently on her albums for a producer credit seems to be Cory Rooney.
ReplyDeleteSingers that would shock me if they were MV: Madonna, Whitney Houston, Maria Callas, etc
ReplyDeleteThose u mention, Brtiney or JLo I would never be surprised, in fact most people comment they have barely voice and it is all marketing.
I am thinking the 13 letters is someone's real name,not a stage name, because there are only so many with 13 letters, and it couldn't be that easy. Also it seems like someone a bit older, who probably no longer records.
ReplyDelete@ Ingrid, I know you're right but I just don't want this to be J-Lo. If it's ever revealed to be her I'm gonna feel like "big whoop".
ReplyDelete@ Frieda. Don't forget Christina not only started as a mousekateer, but also sang the theme song for Mulan. I believe she beat out the competition due to one particular note.
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