This former A+ list singer from a former A+ list group is probably pretty close to permanent A list. In the past he has had all kinds of substance abuse issues. Apparently in order to deal with those substance abuse issues and mental stability issues he is on a variety of medications. Despite all of those, the FBI recently investigated him multiple times within the past year because our singer told someone about something the singer shared. It was disturbing enough and the singer seemed serious enough that the person called the police who then told the friend to call the FBI. The singer was talking about driving a vehicle into a crowded group of people and had fantasies of what it would look like. Even after the FBI interviewed him, he apparently was still telling this person about the fantasy who then told the FBI again. Since then, the singer has not spoken to the person about anything, probably catching on they were the ones who told the FBI.
Too bad they can't lock him up yet.
ReplyDeleteFred Durst?
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't consider Limp Bizkit "punk", tho? IDK.
DeleteYou beat me to it! He was on an episode of MTV's Punk'd. I think you arw VIP Blonde.
DeleteShe's not VIPblonde. Just good. 😊
DeleteWhat the hell. Is @T.W. going to make comments about Tricia in every. single. blind? Dude, move along. Your obsessiveness is creepy a.f. Not to me tion annoying. Sorry things changed in the time you were away. Please deal on your own.
DeleteThank you rosie riveter! You are great too!
DeleteThe Cure?
ReplyDeleteBillie Joe Armstrong from Green Day
ReplyDeleteAgreeing with @Scotty B on this one
DeleteI scrolled down to see if anyone guessed him!
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ReplyDeleteI know nothing about punk music.
ReplyDeleteNot much the FBI can do. If the man is psychotic he needs mental health care not a prison cell.
I would be surprised the FBI would even go talk to him but who knows what the specifics are.
DeleteTom DeLonge.
ReplyDeleteBillie Joe is not a bad guess but he's not a former lead singer. David Lee Roth?
ReplyDelete@scandi you are right...
ReplyDeleteDereck Whilby/Sum 41?
Major substance issues..
OK, DLR is the opposite of punk. Johnny Rotten?
ReplyDeleteJohnny Rotten?
ReplyDeleteNo one mentioned is a punk rocker.
ReplyDeleteIf the A+ rating is as a punk band and not as a general band, I'm guessing its Henry Rollins.
Rollins hasn’t had substance abuse issues.
DeleteEveryone seems to have a different definition of "punk"
ReplyDeleteI heart Henry Rollins. Hope it's not him.
ReplyDeleteKrab, we da best. Also Johnny Rotten is a D-trump lover so he most likely is the one thinking about driving cars into people.
ReplyDeleteCorrecting my prior post. Some punk rockers were mentioned after I started writing. I doubt it's Johnny though. I'm not sure he was much of a druggie.
ReplyDeleteIggy?
ReplyDeleteI'm thinkning this is Billie Joe Armstrong or Tom DeLonge. Armstrong and Green Day are far closer to perma A list as far as modern punk bands are concerned, but Blink 182 were up there at one point and DeLonge has always been more unstable, which led to the group's dissolution.
ReplyDeletehttps://news.avclub.com/tom-delonge-says-he-quit-blink-182-to-focus-on-nationa-1798248488
This is DeLonge, methinks.
DeLinge is into some interesting stuff. If it is him, I would be inclined to wonder if he's being shut down. I don't generally buy into conspiracies but CDaN is changing my mind
DeleteDelonge. Sheesh my phone typing is terribad today
DeleteDidn't DeLonge go on about alien conspiracies and whatnot? I could totally see this being him
DeleteBillie Joe Armstrong is the only one I think you could argue is flirting with permanent A List and has substance abuse issues. DeLonge would be second place but isn't in Blink 182 anymore and you'd think they'd mention the ufo stuff. Rollins is very famously drug free his entire life, so not him.
ReplyDeleteIs there a rockstar who didn't had all kinds of substance abuse issues? LOL. A+ list punk singer? And the group is no longer A+ list? Or doesn't exist anymore/split? Also no idea who could have this kind of fantasies..
ReplyDeleteBilly Joe is still the lead singer of Green Day though. I just don't think of Blink 182 as punk, but hey, I'm old, to me punk is the Clash.
ReplyDeleteRollins was into drugs. He is now drug free.
ReplyDelete@EddyWouldRide Blink 182's dissolution would explain the "former A+ list band" -- i.e. a big band that is no more. Green Day is still together.
ReplyDeleteI think Tom is the best one. He has his new UFO venture. Has friends who used to be in the FBI. Possibly could told him and then he called his buddies.
ReplyDeletelead singer from korn. he has an a collection of antiques from serial killers, is on prozac, etc.
ReplyDelete@Krab Blink 182 is punk. Maybe watered-down pop punk that's not your personal style, but they are still consider a punk band by genre definitions.
ReplyDeleteI don't think this can be John Lydon. He is outspoken and eccentric, sure, but these days he's best known in the UK for being a nature lover and advertising spreadable butter on TV.
ReplyDeleteTom Delonge, although Blink 182 is still going without him
ReplyDeletehttps://www.reddit.com/r/Blink182/comments/52v76b/is_tom_on_drugs_or_beginning_of_schizophrenia/?st=jcur0uzb&sh=f194accf
I'm guessing Enty thinks of Blink 182 as a punk band. I'm changing my guess from Rollins to the 182 guy who I've never heard of but I guess is A list. He seems bit looney.
ReplyDeleteNo, Rollins is famous for being drug free, just about always.
ReplyDeleteAnd I'll never call Green Day punk, although I did see them start a fire on stage.
ReplyDeleteI guess John Lydon would be foreign born, and it's hard to believe it could be him. Glenn Danzig came to my mind first, but Misfits are permanent A+ list I guess.
ReplyDeleteBlink-182 is pop, but I'll agree with that one, makes most sense.
Green Day is pop-punk and Billie Joe Armstrong could be considered permanent A list after the success of the Broadway show American Idiot. He has had substance abuse issues in the past and has had some bizarre public melt-downs. He's my best guess.
ReplyDeletePeter Murphy? I don't know about permanent A list, but didn't he have some problems with substance abuse and driving a couple years ago?
ReplyDeleteMost people have never heard of Peter Murphy. Not sure Bauhaus counts as punk either.
ReplyDeleteLove Peter Murphy...
DeleteIndigo 👀 Eyes... Indigo Eyes🎼
Although Enty might think so.
ReplyDeleteWhoever it is I hope the FBI put the fear of God into him to drop it. The cop that that fantasized about eating people got his conviction overturned and released on the basis you can't convict someone for their fantasies. *Note this does not include pedophiles that communicate with under cover officers. They can rot in jail for soliciting what they believe are kids.
ReplyDeleteI was going to say Iggy Pop too since the Stooges and Iggy were A+ in their genre and time. Plus Iggy is kind of into mutilating himself in public.
ReplyDeletei was gonna say ted nugent but he wasn't punk and his band wasn't popular, he was just more popular solo. i really can't see it being henry rollins or anyone from blink. i doubt it's billie joe either. i guess i'd agree with sandy and say iggy pop but that seems unlikely too. i feel like it's somebody older than most people are guessing
ReplyDeleteIggy Pop is a good guess. Peter Murphy is foreign born. Bauhaus was probably punk because I don't think goth was a genre yet. Most of their fans were punks.
ReplyDeleteCheck out the lyrics to GD's DUI. It's all about getting wasted then running over people.
ReplyDeletei don’t think it has to be punk genre. punk is slang and only used in the title. for example, that kid stole my wallet, what a punk. anybody involved with harming others is punk and i think this isn’t limited to the punk genre.
ReplyDeleteI think it's Billie Joe Armstrong. He has a severe case of Trump Derangement Syndrome and has had several public Trump-related meltdowns.
ReplyDeleteBilly Idol had a well known problem with heroin, but I would be shocked if this was him.
ReplyDeleteJonny Rotten is BRITISH. FBI is American. Not him.
ReplyDeleteBauhaus was never A+, also they were GOTH. A+ in GOTH is "selling out".
Billie Joe is a good guess. The only "Punk" Singer Who is also A+.
Durst is new Metal.
Unless Enti means "Punk", as in the Guy is a Punk.
Wait- whats the name of the lead singer from "Rage against the Machine" ?... Could be him. They were A+ back in the 90`s and they also split.
Zac De la Rocha, but he's a rapper, and Rage isn't punk. Haven't heard of him having substance issues.
DeleteI hung out with Zac once many years ago, and my hot take is that it is not him.
DeleteThe green day guy fits. BTW a genuine,utterly original,genius and true punk legend Mark E Smith passed away yesterday. You can't call yourself a fan of indie music if you don't own one of his records. R.I.P.
ReplyDeleteGonna throw Gerrard Way from My Chemical Romance into the mix.
ReplyDeleteOff-topic, but Mark E Smith, the Fall: Carry Bag Man is a great song.
ReplyDeleteTom DeLonge is a tool, but not sure he fits this. Blink182 is still around, with a new singer, and their most recent album, "California," hit #1 and was among the Top 10 albums of 2016, so I'd say that keeps them A+ list, not "former A+" list.
ReplyDeleteDeLonge has a ton riding on his "OMG Aliens are here and I have been tapped as the Chosen One by our Deep State overlords to integrate the Aliens presence to the lowly plebs," so I find it hard to believe he's actually a nascent crowd-killing Death Race 2018 wannabe.
No idea who it could be otherwise. Half the lead "singers" in music look like could-be serial killers to me.
@melvin I understand your logic but I have a hard time read Delonge as 'close to permanent A List' when his only success was with Blink whom he quit/got thrown out of. Armstrong to me has more crossover success and I think is still pretty recognizable despite green day being active but totally irrelevant.
ReplyDeleteI'd just like to point out something y'all seem to be glossing over:
ReplyDelete"Apparently in order to deal with those substance abuse issues and mental stability issues he is on a variety of medications"
Lotta those mood-stabilizers can cause intrusive, violent thoughts. Ample evidence of that fact, plus lotta 'shooters' are on psychotropic medications when commit their senseless act of violence.
So, maybe that's the reason for all this.
Of course if it's Billy Joe, he may just be referring to all the tech colonizers that have gutted the Bay Area culture and completely ruined the Bay, who I have also fantasized about driving a car into. Shit, I fantasize about going Stephen Paddock on Embarcadero damn near every time I'm stuck in traffic.
So little reporting / national outrage on the consistent presence of pharmaceuticals in these mass killings. Big Pharma is literally killing us
DeleteMy Chemical Romance is EMO.
ReplyDelete@DDonna Tarttty: DeLonge has already cratered as the UFO spokesman. Good and amusing coverage of this on Dark Journalist youtube channel. This is hilarious:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZkYrSmzt_0
First guess was Billie Joe....but I like the Tom/Sum guess. It's definitely NOT Rollins.
ReplyDeleteSo funny to listen to the same old punk/not punk shit I've been hearing for 37 years.
ReplyDeleteSomeone from RATM makes no sense unless the crowd is at an Alt-right rally.
This is obviously Zombie Darby Crash or it could be a "punk" in the way the "rapper-kids" use it. Or it could harken back to its original meaning of a young homosexual lover, a gunsel or a catamite.
Green day is still together as a band. There's no "former" there. I'm noticing a trend on here anybody who speaks out against the comrade in chief is named by the trump cult. Ahhh the smell of Macartism and casual slander in the morning. Remember j. Edgar Hoover and his witch hunts against the gays? Well of course we know now that he himself was gay. In the heart of darkness we fear what is within ourselves. End of pretentious rant...for now Lol.
ReplyDeleteHenry Rollins has NEVER had a drug problem, unless you consider his coffee addiction.
ReplyDeleteRage Against The Machine is not a punk band.
Johnny Rotten, ie. John Lydon, is an infamous pacifist, and has not had drug problems. And go fuck yourself for implicating him over your bullshit politics.
Iggy? Get real.
Tom from Blink 182 is my guess. History of drug abuse, isn't in the band anymore, and is a raving conspiracy theorist.
Billie Joe is still in Green Day, not him.
There aren't many A list punk bands. Blink 182 fits. So does the singer of My Chemical Romance, who has been open about his drug and mental problems. Many wouldn't call them punk, but many do.
This is amusing, for 2 reasons:
ReplyDelete1. Johnny Rotten has strong opinions, he's highly intelligent, very well read, and famously non violent. The only, reason ppl are guessing him is because indeed he's anti-libtards, and pro-Trump
2. the funny part is the following: driving cars and vans into crowds was invented by the biggest, most beloved pets of the liberals and lefties worldwide, the Palestinians. Other contributions and inventions by them to the world: the suicide belt, stabbing people and hijacking airplanes.
So: kiling innocent people by driving into them with vehicles=bad
but: supporting the people who invented this horrifying form of terror=tolerant and good
Oh the wonderful weaves of insanity that lefties allegiances weave...
You are an idiot. Easy to see trump manipulating you he loves and depends on mush brain anti-book learning types. Congrats.
DeleteDon't waste your time on a complete moron that no doubt lives with his parents and trolls people all day. We get it. You're a white male who has failed at life and needs to blame everyone else for you failures. Sad! ðŸ˜
DeleteI'd go with Jaz Coleman.....
ReplyDeletebut KJ were never A + list, American or Punk.....
@Natasha, Johnny Rotten lives in Los Angeles mostly. I mean duh, he's English (Irish really, as you'd know if you paid attention), that's news to everyone.
ReplyDeleteAND COULD EVERYONE DROP THE GODDAMN POLITICAL SNIPING?
The reason I guessed Rotten is because he's one of the very few A+ punk musicians who's the former lead singer of a fomer band. I've always been a Pistols fan so piss off.
I think this is DeLonge.
ReplyDeleteWas Stevie wonder ever in a punk band?
ReplyDeleteWhen someone says they've just hit a deer, check their car damage for deer fur/hairs. If there aren't any, that deer must have been wearing clothes. That's your tip of the day :)
ReplyDeleteTom Delonge has been in contact with supposed CIA officials for his alien documentary & even showed up when John Podesta’s emails were hacked. He is on the government radar, this is him.
ReplyDeleteGreen Day and BJA are probably already at perma A status anyway -- not "former" or "close to"
ReplyDeleteBlink 182 were huge, broke up, came back together and have survived the rise and fall of '90s pop-punk. Tom DeLonge had the best solo success of the group with Angels and Airwaves, and they are still well known as a band. I think Blink is pretty "close to" perm A without quite being there.
Gerard Way and MCR were A- at best. Wven if you consider emo an offshoot of punk, the only emo band to really get A+ was Fall Out Boy, and they are still going strong. Also, Way has his Umbrella Academy comics project, which I think is getting a movie or tv show adaptation. Why risk that?
DeLonge is a conspiracy theorist nutter, to boot. It's gotta be him.
100% Billy Corgan from the punkins. He's right-wing Alex Jones trash.
ReplyDeleteThis former A+ list singer from a former A+ list group is probably pretty close to permanent A list.
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In the past he has had all kinds of substance abuse issues.
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Apparently in order to deal with those substance abuse issues and mental stability issues he is on a variety of medications.
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The singer was talking about driving a vehicle into a crowded group of people and had fantasies of what it would look like
- Popular right-wing fantasy and meme (and has now been done).
Smashing pumpkins are not even close to punk.
DeleteOkay, as a lifelong punk music lover, I have a few things:
ReplyDelete1. Billie Joe Armstrong is a pacifist. He may hate Trump, but I HIGHLY doubt he would ever dream of driving a car into a crowd of people, regardless of their political affiliation. There's no way this is him.
2. My Chemical Romance is an emo band. Not punk, never was. This is not Gerard Way.
3. I think this might be Tom De Longe. Blink had their heyday in the late 90s, early 00s. Yes, they are punk. Tom has battled drug addiction for years leading to the Blink hiatus and the addition of Matt Skiba. It is suspected Tom has schizophrenia. This could very well be him, I'm sad to say.
I do like the Corgan guess, but I just wouldn't think of Pumpkins as punk. Maybe Enty does.
ReplyDeleteAs for people being pacifists, etc, the point (i think?) of this post is that the person is not in his right mind. I love and adore my children greatly, but right after both were born, I had ideations of dropping them out the window, dropping them in the canal, etc. (This is common in post partum women, apparently.)
So just because someone is known to be peaceful and pacifist doesn't mean they're not possibly losing their mind. Just a point.
I think it's funny that some of you guys think that driving a car through a crowd is a right-wing fantasy.
ReplyDeleteI see nothing in this Blind about being in a "Punk Band". Why is everyone so fixated on that matchup? This could literally be any lead singer in a well known band since they are apparently ALL on psych and illegal drugs. Just look at the yearly list of celeb deaths and almost all are drug related or suicide (probably drug related).
ReplyDeleteI really don't even have a guess as it could be any one of these singers.
Random guess= Eddie Vedder
"The only, reason ppl are guessing him is because indeed he's anti-libtards, and pro-Trump "
ReplyDeleteOh that's the ONLY reason???? You're a Reich Wing mind reader now?
WTF do you care? You aren't from the USA so handle your own shit.
Chase, people are guessing punk bands/singers because the blind is titled "Punk Terrorist".
ReplyDeleteJohnny Rotten/ Lydon isn't a Trump "supporter" per se. He is an anarchist. He only "supports" a Trump presidency because it should (in his view) lead to protests and overthrowing the government. This is how he described it on NPR anyway.
ReplyDeleteAnd he is a US citizen now, so the FBI could very well get involved.
I don't really think it's him though.
Chase, people are guessing punk bands/singers because the blind is titled "Punk Terrorist".
ReplyDeleteI guess I need to read the title as well as the description!
The I will go with BJA. Until the FBI or others leak this.
It can't be a former band if they are currently active, like Green Day and Smashing Pumpkins
ReplyDeleteWhy in the world does everything, and I do mean everything, devolve into political sniping and blaming everything on the other party? For God's sake it's an ENTERTAINMENT gossip site. Can you let me have one place that isn't invaded by partisan bullshit?
ReplyDeleteYes, please! This is my only escape.
DeleteTim Armstrong "Rancid" i dont know much about punk but he's a known cunt.
ReplyDeleteThe Rancid guess is interesting. I was looking at Nausea's album, The Punk Terrorist Anthology Vol. 2, released under Blacknoise Recordings (Brad Logan).
ReplyDeleteRancid wrote a song about him called "Brad Logan". But I stopped at Rancid because of ADHD and a reminder about RPDR AS3 tonight
Why am I the first person to say Axl Rose? He was, and is, a punk in the original sense of the word. A+ Singer in former A+ group with notorious mental health problems.
ReplyDeleteAxl Rose not a punk in the musical sense which is what is being discussed here. Rancid hardly A+
ReplyDelete@Maria, AGREED.
"Former" could refer to their A+ status, not to the status of the group existing or the lead singer as a member. This would make BJA and Green Day a possibility, although as Rock and Roll Hall of Famers I'd argue they are probably already A-listers.
ReplyDeleteAside from the punk issue, Axl Rose is without question permanent A list by now. Nothing new he would do would get him there.
Rancid was never A-list except maybe within a very narrow segment of the music business. Tim Armstrong was probably bigger as a producer/writer (he did some great work with Pink).
Corgan is an interesting guess, especially if Enty equates "punk" and "alternative". Pumpkins were definitely A+ back in the day and probably aren't permanent A list yet. And he is notoriously a difficult person to deal with, which suggests possible psychological problems. (Green Day has had its existing lineup for 25+ years, so BJA would not seem to be difficult.) And the Pumpkins had a history of drug abuse. I think it's Corgan.
(Green Day are probably already permanent A-listers.)
ReplyDeletePumpkins are still together though.
ReplyDeleteGuns N' Roses is not a punk rock band, but Axl Rose is most certainly an obnoxious punk.
ReplyDeleteThis is Iggy Pop
ReplyDeletePunkins only now (2018) are 'kinda' together, with Iha and Chamberlin in the studio with Corgan. D'arcy won't talk to him for *some* reason.
ReplyDeletePreviously the touring band had no relationship to their 'good music' era.
And crashing into protestors (and even trying to pass laws allowing it) is very much a right-wing fantasy, similar to gunning down 'zombies'. I've spend enough time on the internet to know you scumbags cold.
@Tryexcept Which Internet fo you have? On my internet, intentional crowd attacks have been largely perpetrated by Islamists - Berlin, Nice, London, Barcelona, Stockholm. Their body count is in the hundreds. Body count in Charlottesville: 1.
DeleteOf all the possibilities mentioned so far on this board, only Axl and Billie Joe can fairly be called A+. John Lydon is a US citizen now, but he has never been known to have mental health issues. I read his autobiography - very good.
I think we have to make sure the band would have really been considered A+ in it's heyday.
ReplyDeleteThen it really shortens the list if we look for punk bands.
Definite punk bands that could have been considered A+ (known by everyone in their heyday):
1) The Clash
2) The Romones (I think they are all dead)
3) Black Flag (eveyone knew them, right?)
4) The Sex Pistols
5) The Dead Kennedys
Maybe punk bands that would have been A+ in their heyday:
1) Blink 182 (but I would definitely call them alternative, because of the pop element and the fact that the punk style and rhythms had influenced many bands by their time)
2) Green Day (definitely A+, but I would call them alternative; maybe other people think they are punk)
3) ??
I would also like to add The Butthole Surfers, just because I like their name. :)
Keep in mind Prince was living a healthy, clean "drug free" life too.
ReplyDeleteEvery story I've heard about Tom De Longe has never been positive.
ReplyDeleteWhile I don't know if he has any 'fantasies', he does have some insane ideas and can act very unstable. He thought a friend of mine was - no joke- an alien then a robot spying on him (which definitely cemented the paranoid schizophrenia thought to me). Pretty sure he wasn't medicated but was under the influence.
Sounds a lot like Billy Jo from Green Day...they've always considered themselves the torch bearers of Punk
ReplyDeleteThis is Billie Joe.
ReplyDeleteJagger
ReplyDeleteRollins, didn't he get into bodybuilding because he had a substance/alcohol problem? I mean, no way it's him but someone wrote Rollins was never into drugs . . .
ReplyDeleteBillie Joe? LOL. Zach De La Rocha? LOL.
Axl has been posting not-so-cryptic anti-right wing tweets lately. They aren't punk though. It's this headline that's confusing
Personally, I think "Appetite for Destruction" is much more punk than some of the pop-punk put out by Green Day or Blink or Pumpkins. All that raw anger!
ReplyDeleteThat said, Axl is known for his mental health problems, but not so much for substance problems. That was more a Slash, Duff, and Izzy thing back in the day.
Axl has been an anti-Trump guy for a long time. As a wealthy California resident, he's about to get a much higher income tax bill as well. (State taxes can no longer be deducted from federal taxes.) Maybe we'll get a song on the new GnR album about that. (Hope it's better than Eminem's anti-Trump song.)
Billie Joe may be A+ just because of the musical American Idiot, which ran on Broadway and is still restaged from time to time, particularly in Europe.
I keep thinking of Marilyn Manson, but I know he's not punk.
ReplyDelete@Bored Meh, I'm not anti-Islam. I have Muslim friends and acquaintances. They don't like people running down other people with trucks any better than I do.
ReplyDeleteBut yeah, vehicles in motion have become the poor man's terror weapon recently.
Lots of very heavy "flowerpots" showing up on European cities' shopping streets, designed to slow down deathly drivers.
Pete Wentz fits the bill from a mental health standpoint. Sounds like this could be some sort of mania brought on by a change up in bi-polar pills.
ReplyDeleteAny punk rockers open about their mental health issues and come from A list groups and l live in America?
@nutty: I live in London, I studied, partied, worked with Muslims, I too have friends, colleagues and acquaintances. Just because I like the individuals, it does not mean I like their religion. The more I see of it, the less I like it. And I'm not ashamed to admit to it either. On the contrary, most of my Muslim friends know I feel, and since they're not the types who pray 5 times a day and then go blow themselves up, they accept and respect my views.
ReplyDeleteIt's not even a religion per se, since it does not allow the separation of state and church, but a horrendously oppressive, violent and totalitarian political ideology, that does not allow any deviation from its' antiquated and neanderthal rules.
Sorry. So not sorry.
Punk is not just about "anger."
ReplyDeleteboredatwork must be the resident nutter here
tetsujin: hey I might be, but at least I don't worship a pedophile and call it a religion
ReplyDeleteAKA: LOL ... You are so right, except for me being a woman, a minority, with a master's degree, who speaks 4 languages, happily married with wonderful kids, and I run my own business too. It's small, I have 3 employees, but still, I'm very proud.
ReplyDeleteExcept for all of that, you totally hit the nail on the head.
Say it ain't so....
ReplyDeleteAs a former Blink fan I concur with the comments that Tom Delonge is batshit cray but I really don't think he is THIS unstable.
I like the Fred Durst guess but I don't think LB were even considered Pop/Punk.
Throwing in Dexter Holland of The Offspring for lolz.