What is crazy is that the one in charge is more upset about the breakaway grandson than the pedophile son. She is ready to have the son come back to the fold.
Really? Take his daughters back before him. They are kinda clean and clueless but guess Fergie associated. Sorry your grandson left the fold and your favorite son is a degenerate rapist but get your priorities straight. Keep the PRIMARY royal like William and Co. in your sites if you want to keep the Windsors alive post your death (Kate is a commoner with class and beloved by the establishment AND people for it!) but maybe that is the problem. Andrew has always been her favorite... no matter what... so as Elizabeth's mortality catches more up with her... reality sets it.. she probably just cares more about who she loves... and that is all any of us has at the end anyway....
Also I LOATHE Andrew for what he did but I always feel reticent when PEDOPHILE and underage rapist are used interchangeably. Even with Epstein. Using and abusing pre-pubescent like 8 or 9 year olds is NOT in the same category is liking your woman barely legal... when it comes to hell, proclivities. They are not the same. Andrew deserves to pay and suffer but he, as far as accusations go, wasn't screwing CHILDREN. Stat rape and child molestation are not the same NOR do they conjure up the same images in our minds or the press. Does anyone else have a problem with these used interchangeably?????
No matter how you view it you are going to find out that Pedo Island was about way more than teenage girls. Infants, toddlers, the survivors of which were imported and moved all the way up the Eastern seaboard of the US - it was called the Red Line.
Underground dining rooms - several of those.... What do you think they were eating? This was a Satanic elite hub, and many arrived in near-complete secrecy via sea-going vessels (not always yachts).
Get rid of both of them. I agree with Kiki that pedophile connotes children, and MANY 16/17y young women engage in consensual sex. Further, our society used to marry off 12ys; we’ve evolved and progressed to understand how damaging trafficking can be. Going to a party of willing young women of consensual yet absurdly you age doesn’t mean someone had criminal intent. Not excusing the slimy prince, but also see how this so easily happened in his lofty tower existence. Surely girls in hs and college went willingly, and obviously his maturity seems stunted right there. That said, let’s hope the Queen isn’t teasing us with her willingness to boot Harry and more especially Meghan.
Andrew has tarnished the family's reputation, but he still defers to "The Firm." Harry and MM have their own people and PR interests, and have disobeyed direct orders from the Queen. That's what she won't forgive.
So its ok when Royalty engages in this and teachers, cops and others are locked up, placed on Megan's list and labeled a certain way?? Still think he is a pig and cut off
Also Age of Consent in UK is 16 so he technically wasn't doing anything illegal when on UK soil on the infamous night in question, albeit sleazy. Also for the Queen, in her era, it was normal for older men to go with teenagers, so in her mind she may not see it the same way we do now.
Pedophilia has always been sleazy,but in Europe, the old man - teenage girl dynamic was kind of romanticised and normal until very recently.
I know France is notorious for this with low AOC . In California, have encountered individuals on Megan's list for relations with 16 to 17 year olds. Its a big deal in California VS Mississippi. So i come from a different mind set.
Well said Kiki. Andrew is a serial rapist. Although I dont care much for the Royals nor understand why they still exist, I did love Diana and now Kate. They seem to be the only ones who exude compassion and down to earthiness which makes them relatable. Makes me wonder if Diana was privy to some damning info and that be why she is gone:'(
That family business is a dead end. Kate isn't it's savior either; she rolls her eyes at charity workers, publicly insults and threatens her friends and had a tantrum at Harry's wedding, she's a mess.
She was also shooting absolute daggers at President Trump during the last State visit and dinner, which was very funny to watch. She KNOWS her parasitic little bubble world is about to be destroyed.
Diana's gone because she chose partying with scumbag billionaires over staying with her kids. Getting into a car driven by a drunk was just the proximate cause.
Bit more to the story. Could have happened that way but... Didn't. She was killed. On purpose. Because she would NOT shut her mouth about things she knew about the "elite".
Why does this comment section look like a whole bunch of people are using semantics to mitigate Andrew's behavior ?
'Preying on 15-17 years olds is not the same as pedophilia'
'Besides its legal in UK anyway'
'It was very acceptable and romanticized in Europe until very recently'
'15 - 16 year olds can and do want sex'
"[Pedophilia] is a very specific disorder" (Really!! Disorder!!?)
Slavery was legal. Bonded Child labor was accepted. Abusing your wife was normal. What is legal and accepted is not necessarily ethical or humane.
15-17 year olds do not have legal rights. They are not completely self sufficient. Many are not completely physically and mentally mature. Adults are. It is never okay for the latter to groom, initiate or have sexual relations with children. Lets not differentiate between child and child just to get this creep off easy.
The Queen is of the generation that post pubescent girls being sexually active is just not that big of a deal. Age of Consent is 16 in GB whether the girl is "ready or not" in her mind. Most men believe "If she's old enough to bleed, she's old enough to breed.", whether they admit it or not. What Andrew did may be smarmy, and it may be gross, and it may be creepy, but it is not pedophilia. I wonder if this is faux outrage from some people to distract from the actual pedophile cults in this world.
The reason the Queen is more upset, is because her grandson has made it a point to be cruel to her personally. Harry and that cow have done everything to thumb their noses at everything, including doing real damage to family relationships. Has MM done anything to prevent this rift? No, she is a grifter and only cares about herself. She was a poor choice for a wife in this position. I hope they both get the royal boot and receive nothing, not even their titles they think they can make money off of.
Andrew,is just as gross. Regardless of age of victims, they were still trafficked, by a know pedo. It has just as much to do about associating with JE as it is about his own behavior. While what he has done I am sure disturbs his mother, he has not personally injured her as their others have.
Would love to see all three plus fergie banished and there is really no other response that would be appropriate for all involved.
What’s with liberals and trying to change the meaning of words? Rape is a violent crime. It’s not a contract issue. If a guy makes you a promise and then reneges it doesn’t mean he raped you. And if you’re a teenage prostitute that doesn’t mean the person paying for your services is a pedophile. These idiots are downplaying evil by changing the meaning of words. Probably in a sick attempt to normalize it.
@red robin They want to normalize this sick behavior. They rationalize, they make excuses. This is EXACTLY how hard drugs were introduced to American youth in the 1960s. A local Liverpool band called The Quarrymen, was introduced to "Brian Epstein", changed to "The Beatles", then invited to Germany ====where they were kept awake 24 7, brainwashed, hooked on hard drugs, and then, they were used to peddle those substances in the US, creating a trillion dollar drug business in the west. Why do you suppose Markle pretends to be pregnant? Pretends to be carrying an infant? Which, on examination, WAS a rubber doll during at least two photo shoots, if not more? Isn't Markle degrading and mocking the miracle of childbirth, when she sashays around with a rubber prosthesis under her skin tight hooker dress, a foam bump that slides down to her knees? Isn't she giving motherhood, and mothers, the middle finger? Bet your ass she is.
If Andrew or anyone for that matter is/was having sex with trafficked girls or women, it is illegal and immoral. There is no way to say this is okay no matter what name it is given.
I believe it! QEII did nothing but ENABLE her perv son. The day after Epstein "died", QEII had perv sit right next to her in a car on her way to CHURCH, both of the two creeps LAUGHING.
Then she banished Harry + Meghan to the second row at the war rememberance service, while she put her PERV son in Row one, right next to the Prime Minister.
Then she approved of his CYA disaster with the BBC in which fate finally caught up with MUMMY DEAREST'S SPOILED 60 year old BRAT. The QUEEN is the main problem in this corrupt grifter bunch.
Jeffrey Epstein had a long-time driver who worked for a company whose owner was a long-time friend. He knew where the bodies were buried, so to speak. The New Jersey company owner died three days before Epstein! Mysteriously. There is probably no one (male) in the Western World who was not being blackmailed by Jeffrey. The names are legendary. Think their identities will ever be released? Think again. No way.
People in this thread are crazy It don't matter if you are trying to justify the pervy uncle 's behaviour by changing the theme or speaking about what is legal in UK or the past We are in 2020 we don't care about how the relationship with underaged girls and adults were normalized in Europe in the past He had sex with TRAFFICKED UNDERRAGED DRUGED girls. Poor commoners who accept everything from the firm and justify their crazy bahaviours but bash on Harry & MM bc they didn't want their son to spend his first Christmas with a Pervy grand uncle ��
Who are these ignoramuses denying that pedophilia is a mental disorder? The stupidity of these people is hilarious. Child rape, child porn and child molestation are the CRIMES. PEDOPHILIA is the DISORDER.
Mentally healthy people do not molest children or have sexual desire for them. Pedophilia IS a mental disorder.
If you are going to get defensive over something like that being pointed out, and throw a ridiculous fit because you think it somehow diminishes the crime, the problem is with YOU.
The law punishes child molestation, child porn and rape, not pedophilia.
@kiki Yes, for the record, it makes me crazy too. Don't call it something it's not - true paedophilia is diminished by people just flinging the label around.
I watched the Epstein special and I don't think it had the effect that it was supposed to have. The girls were around 16. They willingly went to a mansion to "massage" an older man. They got paid extra for everything extra they did. They willingly recruited other girls. There were literally hundreds of girls who did this and only a dozen or so seem to be upset about it or upset enough to pursue it. Most probably went about their business and it was just a Saturday afternoon for them. I'm sorry but trailer park girls in 2005 knew what was up. Trailer park girls when I grew in in 1965 knew what was up when you massaged a man for money. Just stop it. There very well may be heinous things that happened on that island and with Jeffery's familiars, but this massage racket was on one of them. I want the heads of the real pedophiles and I don't want to waste time on people like Andrew and Epstein. This is a distraction. Why?
You can practically see where the comments in this thread are leading.
First - create a gradation among the children (baby, toddler, pre-teen, teen).
Second - pick out pre-teens as not being particularly eligible for protection against sexual abuse by adults, because 'they know what they are doing, and it happened with their consent'.
Third - argue that pedophilia is a mental disorder, and stat rape is not same as child abuse.
Fourth - convince everyone that protecting teens from sexual abuse somehow dilutes the case for protecting younger children
First + Second + Third + Fourth = Andrew/Epstein only had 'consenting relationships' with underage teens because they had a mental disorder, therefore they should get off lightly. How could you even think of punishing a mentally ill person? Besides can you imagine how adversely it would affect actual abuse of children (as defined by them.)
"I want the heads of the real pedophiles and I don't want to waste time on people like Andrew and Epstein." - MissDavie
"Andrew isnt pedo." - Count Jerkula
"Who are these ignoramuses denying that pedophilia is a mental disorder?" - Do Tell
"I always feel reticent when PEDOPHILE and underage rapist are used interchangeably. Even with Epstein. Using and abusing pre-pubescent like 8 or 9 year olds is NOT in the same category is liking your woman barely legal... when it comes to hell, proclivities. They are not the same. Andrew deserves to pay and suffer but he, as far as accusations go, wasn't screwing CHILDREN. Stat rape and child molestation are not the same NOR do they conjure up the same images in our minds or the press." - Kiki
@RedRobin Yes! I can see that too. And let’s face it, Andy has done far more than has been leaked or else he wouldn’t have been so fearful of Epstein’s blackmail. They let the 17 year old through because there are people who don’t see anything weird with a grown ass man wanting a teenager. I can guarantee there are darker shadows to delve.
In case anyone missed the news today the US Virgin Island's top LEO has announced girls as young as 11yo were trafficked through Epstein. So please spare me all the definitions of what constitutes a pedophile and who is or who isn't one. Prince Andrew associated with Epstein for years. The fact that the only girl to step forward was 17yo doesn't mean she's the only child he touched. So anyone associated by sex with Epstein and these girls REGARDLESS of age is a pedophile.
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ReplyDeleteAka Meghan Markle
DeleteReally? Take his daughters back before him. They are kinda clean and clueless but guess Fergie associated. Sorry your grandson left the fold and your favorite son is a degenerate rapist but get your priorities straight. Keep the PRIMARY royal like William and Co. in your sites if you want to keep the Windsors alive post your death (Kate is a commoner with class and beloved by the establishment AND people for it!) but maybe that is the problem. Andrew has always been her favorite... no matter what... so as Elizabeth's mortality catches more up with her... reality sets it.. she probably just cares more about who she loves... and that is all any of us has at the end anyway....
ReplyDeleteAlso I LOATHE Andrew for what he did but I always feel reticent when PEDOPHILE and underage rapist are used interchangeably. Even with Epstein. Using and abusing pre-pubescent like 8 or 9 year olds is NOT in the same category is liking your woman barely legal... when it comes to hell, proclivities. They are not the same. Andrew deserves to pay and suffer but he, as far as accusations go, wasn't screwing CHILDREN. Stat rape and child molestation are not the same NOR do they conjure up the same images in our minds or the press. Does anyone else have a problem with these used interchangeably?????
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DeleteNo matter how you view it you are going to find out that Pedo Island was about way more than teenage girls.
DeleteInfants, toddlers, the survivors of which were imported and moved all the way up the Eastern seaboard of the US - it was called the Red Line.
Underground dining rooms - several of those.... What do you think they were eating?
This was a Satanic elite hub, and many arrived in near-complete secrecy via sea-going vessels (not always yachts).
Bummer they forgot about cell phones. Hello NSA!
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DeleteWell said, kiki. Pedo is becoming a catchall term and it really isn't. It is a very specific disorder which involves a specific age range.
ReplyDeleteThese children were deliberately violated and killed BECAUSE they were children, not because the adults had an unfortunate mental disorder.
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ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, the subjects (LOLOLOLOL!!!) foot the bill for this thieving, inbred Windsor/Hewitt family.
ReplyDeleteBow down and pay, COMMONERS.
I hate when they are used interchangeably Kiki. You’re not alone.
ReplyDeleteGet rid of both of them. I agree with Kiki that pedophile connotes children, and MANY 16/17y young women engage in consensual sex. Further, our society used to marry off 12ys; we’ve evolved and progressed to understand how damaging trafficking can be. Going to a party of willing young women of consensual yet absurdly you age doesn’t mean someone had criminal intent. Not excusing the slimy prince, but also see how this so easily happened in his lofty tower existence. Surely girls in hs and college went willingly, and obviously his maturity seems stunted right there. That said, let’s hope the Queen isn’t teasing us with her willingness to boot Harry and more especially Meghan.
ReplyDeleteI belive the term is ephebophilia. But I guess it’s easier to say Pedo for the mainstream . Yes Kiki it drives me nuts too .
ReplyDeleteGet this family to fuck.
ReplyDeleteAndrew has tarnished the family's reputation, but he still defers to "The Firm." Harry and MM have their own people and PR interests, and have disobeyed direct orders from the Queen. That's what she won't forgive.
ReplyDeleteYup, 50 year old rich, powerful men indulging is abusing trafficked young girls against their will is not a problem *snark*
ReplyDeleteRight. Longtime. Initially misread above quote cause the coffee has not kicked in. ☕
DeleteYeah Taylor Swift is a pedophile too then, having preyed on the underage Kennedy child.
DeleteSo its ok when Royalty engages in this and teachers, cops and others are locked up, placed on Megan's list and labeled a certain way?? Still think he is a pig and cut off
ReplyDeleteAlso Age of Consent in UK is 16 so he technically wasn't doing anything illegal when on UK soil on the infamous night in question, albeit sleazy. Also for the Queen, in her era, it was normal for older men to go with teenagers, so in her mind she may not see it the same way we do now.
ReplyDeletePedophilia has always been sleazy,but in Europe, the old man - teenage girl dynamic was kind of romanticised and normal until very recently.
By very recently, I mean maybe the last 5 - 10 years
ReplyDeleteI know France is notorious for this with low AOC . In California, have encountered individuals on Megan's list for relations with 16 to 17 year olds. Its a big deal in California VS Mississippi. So i come from a different mind set.
DeleteWell said Kiki. Andrew is a serial rapist. Although I dont care much for the Royals nor understand why they still exist, I did love Diana and now Kate. They seem to be the only ones who exude compassion and down to earthiness which makes them relatable. Makes me wonder if Diana was privy to some damning info and that be why she is gone:'(
ReplyDeleteThat family business is a dead end. Kate isn't it's savior either; she rolls her eyes at charity workers, publicly insults and threatens her friends and had a tantrum at Harry's wedding, she's a mess.
ReplyDeleteShe was also shooting absolute daggers at President Trump during the last State visit and dinner, which was very funny to watch.
DeleteShe KNOWS her parasitic little bubble world is about to be destroyed.
Bullshit she’s perfected her schtick
DeleteDiana's gone because she chose partying with scumbag billionaires over staying with her kids. Getting into a car driven by a drunk was just the proximate cause.
ReplyDeleteBit more to the story. Could have happened that way but... Didn't. She was killed. On purpose. Because she would NOT shut her mouth about things she knew about the "elite".
Deleteenty youre more concerned with the breakway grandson and his wife than the pedo son lol
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ReplyDeleteWhy does this comment section look like a whole bunch of people are using semantics to mitigate Andrew's behavior ?
ReplyDelete'Preying on 15-17 years olds is not the same as pedophilia'
'Besides its legal in UK anyway'
'It was very acceptable and romanticized in Europe until very recently'
'15 - 16 year olds can and do want sex'
"[Pedophilia] is a very specific disorder" (Really!! Disorder!!?)
Slavery was legal. Bonded Child labor was accepted. Abusing your wife was normal. What is legal and accepted is not necessarily ethical or humane.
15-17 year olds do not have legal rights. They are not completely self sufficient. Many are not completely physically and mentally mature. Adults are. It is never okay for the latter to groom, initiate or have sexual relations with children. Lets not differentiate between child and child just to get this creep off easy.
Teenagers don’t have legal rights? WTF is wrong with you?
DeleteCamilla slapped the crap out of kate before the queen sent her to rehab! Tough family
ReplyDeleteThe Queen is of the generation that post pubescent girls being sexually active is just not that big of a deal. Age of Consent is 16 in GB whether the girl is "ready or not" in her mind.
ReplyDeleteMost men believe "If she's old enough to bleed, she's old enough to breed.", whether they admit it or not.
What Andrew did may be smarmy, and it may be gross, and it may be creepy, but it is not pedophilia.
I wonder if this is faux outrage from some people to distract from the actual pedophile cults in this world.
The reason the Queen is more upset, is because her grandson has made it a point to be cruel to her personally. Harry and that cow have done everything to thumb their noses at everything, including doing real damage to family relationships. Has MM done anything to prevent this rift? No, she is a grifter and only cares about herself. She was a poor choice for a wife in this position. I hope they both get the royal boot and receive nothing, not even their titles they think they can make money off of.
ReplyDeleteAndrew,is just as gross. Regardless of age of victims, they were still trafficked, by a know pedo. It has just as much to do about associating with JE as it is about his own behavior. While what he has done I am sure disturbs his mother, he has not personally injured her as their others have.
Would love to see all three plus fergie banished and there is really no other response that would be appropriate for all involved.
Yep Harry the dimwit and Smirkles are evil, ungrateful, vindictive toddlers who are blackmailing the Queen for fun and profit.
DeleteBumblebee, agree 100% with all of your observations
DeleteDESTROY THE MONARCHY
ReplyDeletecan’t believe taxpayers across the pond have to actually fund these pompous, pedophile friendly assholes. Time to abolish Bitch & Co
@kiki
ReplyDeleteI agree Kiki. It bothers me too
Re: AOC, the issue is TRAFFICKING which is illegal. AOC is irrelevant.
ReplyDeleteWhat’s with liberals and trying to change the meaning of words? Rape is a violent crime. It’s not a contract issue. If a guy makes you a promise and then reneges it doesn’t mean he raped you. And if you’re a teenage prostitute that doesn’t mean the person paying for your services is a pedophile. These idiots are downplaying evil by changing the meaning of words. Probably in a sick attempt to normalize it.
ReplyDelete@red robin
ReplyDeleteThey want to normalize this sick behavior.
They rationalize, they make excuses.
This is EXACTLY how hard drugs were introduced to American youth in the 1960s.
A local Liverpool band called The Quarrymen, was introduced to "Brian Epstein", changed to "The Beatles", then invited to Germany ====where they were kept awake 24 7, brainwashed, hooked on hard drugs, and then, they were used to peddle those substances in the US, creating a trillion dollar drug business in the west.
Why do you suppose Markle pretends to be pregnant?
Pretends to be carrying an infant? Which, on examination, WAS a rubber doll during at least two photo shoots, if not more?
Isn't Markle degrading and mocking the miracle of childbirth, when she sashays around with a rubber prosthesis under her skin tight hooker dress, a foam bump that slides down to her knees?
Isn't she giving motherhood, and mothers, the middle finger?
Bet your ass she is.
If Andrew or anyone for that matter is/was having sex with trafficked girls or women, it is illegal and immoral. There is no way to say this is okay no matter what name it is given.
ReplyDeleteMarkle's posting here? She must be consumed with herself. Boring way to live.
ReplyDeleteI believe it! QEII did nothing but ENABLE her perv son.
ReplyDeleteThe day after Epstein "died", QEII had perv sit right next to her in a car on her way to CHURCH, both of the two creeps LAUGHING.
Then she banished Harry + Meghan to the second row at the war rememberance service, while she put her PERV son in Row one, right next to the Prime Minister.
Then she approved of his CYA disaster with the BBC in which fate finally caught up with MUMMY DEAREST'S SPOILED 60 year old BRAT. The QUEEN is the main problem in this corrupt grifter bunch.
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ReplyDeleteHarry: Granny, Father, Brother. I don't want my son to spend his first Christmas with a known pedophile.
ReplyDeleteThe whole world: YOU UNGRATEFUL LITTLE SHIT! DID MEGHAN MAKE YOU SAY THIS?!!
Jeffrey Epstein had a long-time driver who worked for a company whose owner was a long-time friend. He knew where the bodies were buried, so to speak. The New Jersey company owner died three days before Epstein! Mysteriously. There is probably no one (male) in the Western World who was not being blackmailed by Jeffrey. The names are legendary. Think their identities will ever be released? Think again. No way.
ReplyDeleteCan you imagine how happy Trump is to be kicked off the headlines because of Mexit? He should send her a basket of cookies.
ReplyDeletePoor, poor Andy, being called a pedophile just because he's accused of having sex with drugged-up underage girls. OH THE INJUSTICE OF IT ALL
ReplyDeletePeople in this thread are crazy
ReplyDeleteIt don't matter if you are trying to justify the pervy uncle 's behaviour by changing the theme or speaking about what is legal in UK or the past
We are in 2020 we don't care about how the relationship with underaged girls and adults were normalized in Europe in the past
He had sex with TRAFFICKED UNDERRAGED DRUGED girls. Poor commoners who accept everything from the firm and justify their crazy bahaviours but bash on Harry & MM bc they didn't want their son to spend his first Christmas with a Pervy grand uncle ��
Who are these ignoramuses denying that pedophilia is a mental disorder? The stupidity of these people is hilarious. Child rape, child porn and child molestation are the CRIMES. PEDOPHILIA is the DISORDER.
ReplyDeleteMentally healthy people do not molest children or have sexual desire for them. Pedophilia IS a mental disorder.
If you are going to get defensive over something like that being pointed out, and throw a ridiculous fit because you think it somehow diminishes the crime, the problem is with YOU.
The law punishes child molestation, child porn and rape, not pedophilia.
Whew! Lots of crazies posting here today.
ReplyDelete@kiki Yes, for the record, it makes me crazy too. Don't call it something it's not - true paedophilia is diminished by people just flinging the label around.
I watched the Epstein special and I don't think it had the effect that it was supposed to have.
ReplyDeleteThe girls were around 16. They willingly went to a mansion to "massage" an older man. They got paid extra for everything extra they did. They willingly recruited other girls. There were literally hundreds of girls who did this and only a dozen or so seem to be upset about it or upset enough to pursue it. Most probably went about their business and it was just a Saturday afternoon for them.
I'm sorry but trailer park girls in 2005 knew what was up. Trailer park girls when I grew in in 1965 knew what was up when you massaged a man for money.
Just stop it.
There very well may be heinous things that happened on that island and with Jeffery's familiars, but this massage racket was on one of them.
I want the heads of the real pedophiles and I don't want to waste time on people like Andrew and Epstein. This is a distraction. Why?
Came for the comments. Was not disappointed but ran out of popcorn. Bye!
ReplyDeleteHear hear, Miss Davie.
ReplyDeleteAndrew isnt pedo. Was photographed with a 17y/o. Legal in UK and most of the US. All a bunch of nonsense.
ReplyDeleteYou can practically see where the comments in this thread are leading.
ReplyDeleteFirst - create a gradation among the children (baby, toddler, pre-teen, teen).
Second - pick out pre-teens as not being particularly eligible for protection against sexual abuse by adults, because 'they know what they are doing, and it happened with their consent'.
Third - argue that pedophilia is a mental disorder, and stat rape is not same as child abuse.
Fourth - convince everyone that protecting teens from sexual abuse somehow dilutes the case for protecting younger children
First + Second + Third + Fourth = Andrew/Epstein only had 'consenting relationships' with underage teens because they had a mental disorder, therefore they should get off lightly. How could you even think of punishing a mentally ill person? Besides can you imagine how adversely it would affect actual abuse of children (as defined by them.)
"I want the heads of the real pedophiles and I don't want to waste time on people like Andrew and Epstein." - MissDavie
"Andrew isnt pedo." - Count Jerkula
"Who are these ignoramuses denying that pedophilia is a mental disorder?" - Do Tell
"I always feel reticent when PEDOPHILE and underage rapist are used interchangeably. Even with Epstein. Using and abusing pre-pubescent like 8 or 9 year olds is NOT in the same category is liking your woman barely legal... when it comes to hell, proclivities. They are not the same. Andrew deserves to pay and suffer but he, as far as accusations go, wasn't screwing CHILDREN. Stat rape and child molestation are not the same NOR do they conjure up the same images in our minds or the press." - Kiki
@RedRobin Yes! I can see that too. And let’s face it, Andy has done far more than has been leaked or else he wouldn’t have been so fearful of Epstein’s blackmail. They let the 17 year old through because there are people who don’t see anything weird with a grown ass man wanting a teenager. I can guarantee there are darker shadows to delve.
DeleteIn case anyone missed the news today the US Virgin Island's top LEO has announced girls as young as 11yo were trafficked through Epstein. So please spare me all the definitions of what constitutes a pedophile and who is or who isn't one. Prince Andrew associated with Epstein for years. The fact that the only girl to step forward was 17yo doesn't mean she's the only child he touched. So anyone associated by sex with Epstein and these girls REGARDLESS of age is a pedophile.
ReplyDeleteI havent seen any pics of Andrew with an 11y/o, only a 17y/o who is legal to stick in over 3/4 of the world.
ReplyDeleteCalling him a pedo is as dumb as calling a broad who was jacked off in front of a victim.