June 1, 2019
This Grammy Hall Of Famer who was one of the biggest radio stars ever also has a memorable last name. She was in love with a convict and as we are discovering now, a communist sympathizer which people in Hollywood knew about but tried to keep quiet because they loved working with her.
Fanny Brice
This Grammy Hall Of Famer who was one of the biggest radio stars ever also has a memorable last name. She was in love with a convict and as we are discovering now, a communist sympathizer which people in Hollywood knew about but tried to keep quiet because they loved working with her.
Fanny Brice
She married a con artist, is that the one you mentioned or was there another one?
ReplyDeleteMore like a memorable first name
ReplyDeleteOh my man I love him so
He'll never know
One of the best song endings for a movie ever!!
yes!!!
DeleteNicky Arnstein...Nicky Arnstein...
ReplyDeleteBabs.
Who else was Fanny in love with?
I think the blind is saying Arnstein was a convict and commie, and we are only learning now he was a commie
ReplyDeletegauloise: thanks. That makes sense.
ReplyDeleteIsn't the party political thing old hat these days?
ReplyDeleteIsn't the political world divided into those political people who like to fuck kids and the three politically minded people on the planet that don't?
Flash Vic you said it! That's what it seems to be.
ReplyDeleteAs for Fanny Brice, very interesting person and deserves much more of a tribute than Funny Girl.
Kinda sad because Fanny was a talent, but not a beauty. She glommed onto this con artist who defo took plenty of her dough.
ReplyDelete"Fanny was a talent, but not a beauty."
ReplyDeleteQuestion: Would you rather be Fanny Brice or a Ziegfeld "girl?"
(Anyone)
Bonus point: Would you rather be Fanny Brice or Evelyn Nesbit?
Good for the con artist.
ReplyDeleteShe fell for a lot of con-artists being a commie.
Fanny Brice was a fascist, which is what all communists and socialists are. Look at them today, opposed to free speech, contemptuous of citizens’ civil rights their actions are right out of Trotsky, Lenin, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin’s et al... playbooks
ReplyDeleteEr, how are her sociopolitical beliefs known? A lot of people were 'accused' but were not 'communists.'
ReplyDeleteWell, now - I'm not finding anything online about Fanny being a communist. Arnstein's name is not coming up either. Unless there's guilt by association. Play producers, writers were - not them.
ReplyDeleteand Billie Burke *could* be a Zeigfeld girl since she married the boss. Such a fine comedic actress and pretty, too. Although her later husband(s)wasted her money so she had to keep working. So I'll choose Zeigfeld girl!
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ReplyDeleteGentleBreeze: Even when people say "producers/writers were," they should keep in mind, imo, that a lot of well meaning humanists went to a 'meeting' because at that time, a lot of creatives believed a Utopia in which people shared what they had, and no one was exploited, was possible.
ReplyDeleteCommunism did not = fascism in their minds in those days; in act quite the opposite.
There were also people who want to a 'meeting' just to network. Or because a friend brought them.
Then HUAC came along and ruined lives, ended careers, led to suicides...
Does Chaplin seem like a fascist? Accusations of 'dirty commie' ran him out of the USA.
"So I'll choose Zeigfeld girl!" Thanks for playing :) Billie Burke was gorgeous, talented and smart.
Mary......fascists and communists are world's apart. Hitler stated he was socialist only to suck in the public. We should all know how that goes after Mr. Hope and Change, Obomba. He gave a great speech, while behind the scenes his administration was constantly bombing oil rich middle eastern countries.Communism is govt. owning everything. Fascism is corporations controlling the govt. Like US.
ReplyDeleteHeaven on earth does not and likely cannot exist.
ReplyDeleteAnyone promises Utopia on earth? RUN.
The heart wants what it wants
ReplyDeleteUgh- I love Billie Burke. I I’m not taking any sides here but what most people don’t consider is the context of the 1930s. From the standpoint of 1932, there wasn’t a lot to recommend capitalism and people were searching for a way to replace what was a truly broken system. Communism, at the time, seemed very promising. It had brought changes and freedoms to many in Russia and our neighbor to the south. So it’s not at all surprising that a country filled with Hoovervilles that people were looking for a better way.
ReplyDeleteSamantha. By the 1930s the various holocausts of the USSR were well underway. They started with Lenin and exploded under Stalin. The humanist intellectuals and creatives should have known about this, and in fact many did. They continued to push Communism because they believed the violence was worth it for an eventual better world.
ReplyDeleteI don't think you can trust people like that with our popular culture. Blacklist them.
Miss Teak - yes. Context. It was during the Great Depression, when workers were being fired, and/or were being exploited to the point of starvation, people were being driven off land their families had held for generations, and stockbrokers were diving off skyscrapers.
ReplyDeleteA Utopia in which everyone worked and shared equally must have sounded mighty appealing.
slipperyGuy no lectures please about what the dead "should've known" way back in the past century. They didn't know a thing about any of that.
Come on you are being provocative and concern-trolling. Who are you, the ghost of McCarthy.
So happy to be an anarchist.
ReplyDeleteCan't we take all the best from the existing, and make up our own 'ism'?
ReplyDeleteA lot of actors, writers & directors went to communist or communist inspired meetings & groups because they were the only ones attacking Hitler & the Nazis in the early & mid-1930s.
ReplyDeleteA lot of people got caught in the HUAC dragnet who did not believe in the 'communist' ideology at all. Hollywood has always revolved around networking and parties. The champagne type of parties, not the political kind of parties. I think most go which way the wind blows, politically speaking. Or let's say "went."
ReplyDeleteThey are all about their careers.
Stanislavski was popular then too and maybe they thought acting was more respected in Russia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Stanislavski
HUAC knew most of the people it called were not 'communists' which was in their mind synonymous with 'dangerous seditionist' but they wanted to embed fear in the proceedings, and to get people to rat on each other.
Dunno who she is but if she was with a commie? Fuuuhuuuuuck that.
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