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Who won the debate last night? Other than Big Bird of course. Did the debate change the vote of anyone?
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 233 of 233@Nranders -in re: to "repubs hate blacks," they -the dem followers, also forget how and why the democratic party was started (for the KKK) and not to mention, that HOT piece (and really I mean intelligence wise, Michael Steele was the head of the GOP for how long? Or Condi Rice, another HOT piece (we're talking knowledge people, and outside too), this bs that people start spewing about what the media has told them to believe, it's an instant turn off for me. I can't even with those folks. Just as I couldn't even with the "let's get the sand ni**er folks," right after 9/11. To stick with one side, is moronic. Just as to not admit when you are wrong. and I am sorry, for anyone to still back BO, you are wrong. I'm not saying romney is the man.....but BO, sure is not.
//anyone on jezebel back during the 2008 elections? you know how many times I actually read women's post saying, "look at his abs!" in ref to BO, as if that was what made him great leader material.
///all of this said, I don;'t think any of us should get heated, b/c I don't think any of us truly have a say anyway. at least not YET. But I for one will be shell shocked (new order style) if BO loses the potus slot. and there's a rumor brewing that I may not agree with in the slightest, but really makes a lot of sense, that michelle o is going to take over next. So, buckle your seat belts, we're about to be going down, for a ride. what doesn't kill US(a) will make us stronger. and let's start to understand the power we have as we lay folk far outnumber those in "power," and have a little faith in ourselves, b/c eventually, we will take them down, once we have had enough......and we will (if we come together) succeed.
Godbless
Did anyone notice that Willy Mitt called his sons liars? This could make people wonder what kind of parent he is/was...
Obama needs to bring it next time for sure, am looking forward to the Biden/Ryan show
I do believe most insurance policies cover both viagra and cialis, but I have never heard of any that cover birth control. WHY? How is that fair? Why is this not on the table?
as opposed to Obama who is a teensy tiny d-bag liar.
Let me get this straight:
- threw the debate
- didn't get anything done (tea party's fault)
- can't get anything done (Congress' fault)
- has your vote!!
Welldun said...
"Did anyone notice that Willy Mitt called his sons liars? This could make people wonder what kind of parent he is/was..."
Wow. Grasp at straws much?
Well, I know personally I don't want to py for everybody else's birth control, or anything else for that matter.
Well, I know I don't feel like paying for everybody's birth control, or anything else for that matter. The more you think uou're getting for free, the more they're increasing some other tax to pay for it. Nothing is free.
Wow, the "Obama apologized" lie is being repeated with apparently no regard for reality. And y'all wonder why non-Republicans are so dubious of you.
Why do people think Obamacare mandates that anyone will pay for anyone else's birth control?
What kind of fucked up propaganda is that?(I suppose it's GOOD propaganda since so many people believe it)
INSURANCE will have to provide birth control. Not the government, not you, not welfare, not food stamps...INSURANCE...that each person will pay for.
Geez people...learn the facts. Read. Don't believe everything someone tells you in a sound bite.(and no, I don't mean turn from FOX to MSNBC)
And as an aside; who the hell wouldn't rather the government pay the fairly small amount for birth control instead of for the unwanted children that result? Don't have sex then? Yeah, that's worked well in the entire history of human existence.
I forgot to add that I'm totally shaking my head. Because I am. SMH.
Okay, I got here late, but would like to say a few things.
Well said Sad Sack Terziak. And Jax too.
I'm Canadian as well, but I am so surprised by people's disdain for universal health care, which from what I understand, is not what "Obamacare" is about. A small amount of $$$ comes off your paycheck, along with all the other taxes. We don't have to pay for private insurance. All Canadians are covered, but it's governed by each province. Everyone is issued a health card, with your picture. There's a magnetic strip on the back. When you go to the doctor or the hospital, they scan the card, and that's it. Medical coverage does not cover dental care or plastics; as well, certain things that were once covered have been de-listed (varies province to province).
As to those who thought Obama apologized to the Libyans (wtf?), as someone mentioned upthread, the U.S. Embassy in Cairo released that statement AFTER that crazy film was put on You Tube, but BEFORE the attack on the U.S. Embassy in Libya. They were concerned (rightly so) about their safety, not knowing, but sensing, what was about to transpire.
No, Obama hasn't accomplished everything he hoped to, but he sure has done a lot. As angry as it made a lot of people, his loans to the financial and auto sectors, saved them (and thousands of jobs in the process), and the loans were repaid. He repealed Don't Ask, Don't Tell, got Osama bin Laden, brought in a health care plan that will enable those who weren't covered before, for whatever reason, to now have coverage. There's more that I can't think of off the top of my head.
Like Jax said, I would gladly take Obama over the idiot who's running our country.
And yes, Romney did better than Obama last night. Obama seemed out of sorts to me, not on his A game. Maybe debates aren't his forte.
* when I said a small amount of $$$ comes off your paycheck, I meant here in Canada. If I wasn't clear.
The republican party of abraham lincoln is NOT the republican party of today.
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Auntliddy, your argument makes no sense. A person is not going to and can not be turned away for inability to pay. But from a financial stand point, an office visit at a family practice in my area at a Mayo Clinic health system clinic is $75 to start at. Emergency ro visits start at 200. Which would you rather pay for?
in addition what auntliddy said I have indeed been turned away from a clinic not once but twice because I did not have insurance. It is awful! So unless you have been there you don't know. The only option is the ER or wait in line for the free clinic for hours. I know plenty of non 1%'ers voting for Romney and I can't help but think why? Romney doesn't care about you. Was his comment about the 47% not enough? Did you not see how he ran any company associated with Bain Capital into the ground? THAT's who you want running the country. Only if you want America sold as low cost stock to another country. I can see China buying America now. Obama's not perfect in many ways he feels almost Republican lite. I laugh at anyone who calls him a socialist or gasp! a communist! Only in opposite world is that true. But as they say denial is not just a river in Egypt!
Auntliddy- you want to work 80 hours a week and be in constant stress all the while paying off your $350,00 student loans wondering if medicare is gonna pay you the $15 per patient per month "salary" then go ahead and make your ignorant statements. It just mskes you look foolish. I am not a Dr. (an RN) but I have worked with them and I am married to one. Not all Dr.s make a lot of money and they worked a lot harder than most to get there and deserve to make a decent living.
@surfer, the genius of single-payer in Canada is that Ottawa required each province to take care of it on its own, as long as they meet the requirements and keep the insurance and hospitals funded. When I came back to the US, the Republican lies about Canada were astonishing to me. I was told many times that Canadians are dying in the streets because they can't even see a doctor, etc., etc. The debate on healthcare reform was just like every American debate: fractured, hot, and a lot of fun if you like arguing.
The population of Canada is approx 35M. The population of the USA is approx 350M. Governing and implementing a health care system for a population 10 x larger than Canada is quite different. Wait lists abound in socialized medicine. Won 't work as currently presented as Obama care.
Actually, Agent**It, I have to correct you regarding wait lists. That's another fallacy, perpetuated by, I'm not sure who.
I've had more than my fair share of surgery, and never had to wait. I had surgery twice in two months recently (May & August). In the first case, I had to wait six weeks, but that was my doing, because the doctor operates at multiple locations, and I wanted the place closest to where I live. In the second instance, although I knew I needed the surgery, I was kind of caught off guard when I went to see the doctor - he said "how about we do it right now?" I almost had a heart attack, because I thought I was just going for a check up, and hadn't thought to ask anyone to come with me. But I said okay, because otherwise, I would have had to come back, and then had time to get myself all worked up in the process.
There used to be a long wait for hip replacement and cataract surgery, but that is improving.
I get that people are afraid of the unknown, but really, it is a wonderful thing to know that if you need care, you don't have to worry that it's going to bankrupt you or worry that you'll have to skimp on other things just to pay the bill.
Couldn't agree more! Don't like Romneys ideas and policies at all but that doesn't mean he's evil. This is part of the problem in the country, we can't have a debate about politics without the name calling! If each one of us commits to stop using this language we could start changing things.
Obama is an apologist and a compromiser. He compromised on single payer in the health care bill after the first few weeks. He embraced "clean coal" (uh no such thing) and has done essentially nothing on climate change. He placed republicans in his cabinet, tried to work with republican leadership. Some people admire him for this but to me, he wasted precious time on a total lost cause. He's a moderate. I'm an actual liberal. I support him with great reluctance.
Obama is not a great President.
However, Romney would be an utter disaster as President.
Evidently, lying through your teeth wins you a debate in this country.
Auntliddy- you don't know what you are talking about. Keep your ignorant comments to yourself.
I think he just misspoke. I dont think he thinks his sons are liars. But if they are.... Wow
Gina, i knew u were in med field! I was, had dr relatives and nurses, worked for 10 drs for 10 plus years. I know they pay alot for school, i know they dont all make alot if money,i know the hours stink. But. Their expectation is thst its their right to make alot of money, that it is due them. So my comments were not remotely ignorant, i know from whence i speak. Health care us a tricky field; its a business that also provides life saving services. Because of that, people expect private drs to treat them even if they cant pay, but drs still trying to make a living. We dealt with this all the time. But the doctors are also very protective if their status and ability to profit from their skills, which was my point. They dont want that threatened in any way. They dont want health system restructured so they lose money and ir status.
Hi Surfer, The problem is administering the plan in its current form. 35 million vs 350 million people is a huge difference. I am not fearful of the unknown, I just want it done right for us. I was reading from a Canadian report done by the nonpartisan Fraser Institute from 2011 re wait times, etc. Trust me, if you saw my copay for meds and my deductible you'd wonder why I bother to get out of bed. Looking forward to a better solution:)
Hi Agent**It - you're absolutely right, in that it's a whole different ball of wax due to the difference in the population (among other things).
My ex is a pharmacist, and the stories he would tell me about co-pays (which I wasn't familiar with), cost of meds, etc. was shocking. One day I filled a script for 30 Ativan (brand name, not generic), and the cost was under $7.00. When I told him about it, he couldn't believe it - he told me his cost for that same amount was close to $200!!! That is insane.
I believe that the government here subsidizes the pharmaceutical companies, and that's why the cost of drugs is so much lower here than in the States (and why so many Americans cross the border to fill their scripts).
Here in Ontario, when you fill a prescription, you're charged a "dispensing fee," which ranges anywhere from $8-$12. If you have insurance, it will sometimes cover the full amount, sometimes not. I've been filling my scripts at Costco, because the df is under $4.00.
Romney and Obama = same shit different package. Fuck voting
I love it when Canadians weigh in on healthcare. Your system is so much better than what we have here! My parents will be medically bankrupt before mom is done with her cancer treatments. The Nulasta shot she gets each time after chemo is 5k alone. Insurance should pay 80%. Had Obamacare not existed,she would have been kicked from insurance when first diagnosed. Their premiums are $750/mo.for her and my 22 yr old sister thru Cobra. My sister being on it helps keep the premium lower. Yeah,that's lower... My dad is a retired teacher.
Believe me I would love to see Universal Healthcare here!! I am voting for Obama!
I like and enjoy all the comments here. I think its great prople are so well informed. I didnt find too much name calling. Hereis what i dont like: cynicism. As in ," they both suck and will screw us over. I dont vote". Please dont think like that. This is our system, we all hv to find a way to make it work for us. Dont give up!!!!!!
Catastrophic health care was addressed under the Hillary plan (I think) back in the 90's, that's an important element in any plan that a govt should cover.There's a huge amount of baby boomers that are in limbo, too young for medicare and too old to get a cheap plan, and forced into early retirement with no pension and nothing but Cobra. The BB will make a huge difference in this election, if they vote. We did not watch the debate nor will we. They are useless and are just media fodder (to me, IMHO). We watched 'Wipeout' reruns:) At least we got a belly laugh or two .
@Lola People think that because it's true. It's the law of insurance. Let's say I don't use birth control, but you do. The insurance companies spread out the premiums among all subscribers, especially on group plans. So yes, when many people are on a drug that raises the costs for insurance companies, then everyone has to pay for it. Where else would the money come from? Most people are on group plans, and those are generally not individually rated.
If you are still reading the comments all the way down here, I commend you. I just want to state that, if undecided, you should not base your vote on 1 debate. There are still more to come.
Consider this, how long does it take to implode a building or total your car? Compare that to how long it takes to rebuild that building or car. Our nation is much larger and complex than that. If you think Obama is some wizard who can magically change that, you are delusional. Mitt Romney went back on everything him and his campaign has stated in the past. I believe that Obama was thrown by the fact that Mitt completely changed his stance on multiple issues during the debate. If I've been telling you I love chocolate for the past 6 months, but then at the debate start vying for vanilla, how would that affect your argument. If you are a staunch republican, I ask you if Mitt Romney is the best representative for you with how often he's changed his stance on key topics. He was pandering to the 47% he himself stated he does not care about. Now, who do you want to vote for, someone who stands or his beliefs or the person who wants to win a popularity contest?
I'm not foolish into thinking the President of the United States has absolute power over this country. Being POTUS is our spokesperson at best. Perhaps the reason he brings up his predecessor is because the GOP has been wrongly blaming him for a lot of the President Bush did. The sad fact is, people will believe him because they want to believe it. Red states generally have lower income, perform lower in education, and take in more federal funding and yet they blindly support the GOP because it is the GOP that spouts "religious" views. Those states are the ones that have the most to lose. We cannot afford another term that supports corporate takeover of our government.
I don't care who you vote for, it's your right to choose. But don't blindly vote. Look at the issues one by one. Stay away from cable and network news and find independent sources. Make your own decision and don't believe everything you hear.
This is how to tell when politicians are telling the truth: their mouths are closed:)
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