Saturday, February 23, 2013

Lena Dunham Finally Talks About The N Word

Last week, Lisa Lampanelli referred to Lena Dunham as her N word but with an a on the end instead of an er. Lisa was universally condemned and her explanation was ridiculous. Lena Dunham stayed silent. Nothing for an entire week. On Thursday the very respected writer Shayla Pierce wrote an article on xojane.com about why it is never ok to use the N word and how Lena, by her silence basically approved of what Lisa had said. The piece finally got Lena to talk and she said that the reason she did not say anything was because she did not want a Twitter war and that she was very uncomfortable with the use of the N word and apologized. How was there a Twitter war? Lena could have released a statement from one of her army of publicists. She is a brilliant writer who could have released a statement of her own. Instead she stayed silent until she was personally called out. Shayla accepted Lena's apology. Would Lena have ever said anything if she was not confronted about it?

103 comments:

Pink_Palace said...

silence is golden. if she had responded, then she was adding fuel to the fire. damned if she did, damned if she didn't...and i don't even particularly like Lena - at all. if i ever hear that word (or some form of it mentioned around me), i cringe...

La Descarada said...

She is a frumpy, troll who screams attention whore while trying to seem like an edgy hipster. Needy. Annoying. Go away, please.

Derek Harvey said...

Not this bitch again. I cannot stand Lena Dunham---she and her false intellect make my skin-crawl. I also despise her capitalizing on this whole "well I'm young and I like music and I have friends and I like to dress stylish so I guess Im a hipster" trend that seems to be taking over the world. If she shows up to the Oscars tomorrow I hope Sascha Baron Cohen pisses on her leg

Lizzie du said...

Eh i dont get it .., rappers use it, black people use it why cant the rest of us ? I hear black people call white people crackers all the time n no one says anything . Yet let a white person say white pride or white power n hes called a racist ? I am neither black or white this are just my observations . I dont get this world sometimes cdaners .

Comma Chaser said...

Just to play devil's advocate, does Lena necessarily have to comment on someone else's stupidity?

Lola said...

Wait...she didn't say it, write it or re tweet it but she's essentially being called racist because she chose to stay out of the firestorm? For being named IN SOMEONE ELSE'S tweet?

SMH

Derek Harvey said...

and I was forced to watch that Girls crap a couple of times and why in every episode I've seen this annoying bitches character gets all the attractive guys and her co-stars (who are pretty and not annoying) are single and desperate?---Its because shes co-producer. It is going to give a lot of young girls with body-image issues a real complex. This pig is just oinking all the way to the bank.

brakewater said...

Lena is a troll, but she didn't say it. She shouldn't have to apologize.

Agent**It said...

Lola, agree 1000%. Shayla benefited and got her 15 min.

just curious said...

Is silence really golden? Some folks say if you don't comment ,then you're okay with it or in agreement.

Isn't that what they're say when it comes to bullying:that if you see it speak up.

audrey said...

Wow...forced to apologize for something someone else said about you just because you didn't respond to a twitter. I am amazed at the stupidity of man kind. Had Lena responded back to Lisa with something in kind...then it would be warranted...but because she didn't respond?

Derek Harvey said...

and yeah despite all my hate-on for her you guys are right that she handled the situation well.

VIPblonde said...

Exactly, @Lola! On Facebook, you can set your page so that you can pre-approve things that are posted on your page. Twitter is an open forum; you can't edit what other people say when they name you in their post. Is she supposed to apologize every time someone puts her twitter handle in a tweet along with something offensive? Completely ridiculous

Betsy said...

OT: Can somebody please pull Lena aside and yell at her about her "color-by-numbers" tattoos or whatever she has inked on herself? The worst.

hag said...

She stayed silent bc it's a loaded topic. This whole issue has been blown way way way out of proportion.

Molls said...

@ Derek Harvey --Not this bitch again. I cannot stand Lena Dunham---she and her false intellect make my skin-crawl. I also despise her capitalizing on this whole "well I'm young and I like music and I have friends and I like to dress stylish so I guess Im a hipster" trend that seems to be taking over the world.
*******************
You nailed it. Exactly how I feel.

Grace said...

Okay, saying offensive things is Lisa Lampanelli's shtick. Why bother getting you panties in a wad about it?

auntliddy said...

Derek, gross but hilarious!!! Hes just the guy to do it!!!

auntliddy said...

I think this way: anyone can say what they want about anyone, but its not my thing. I wont be saying harmful shite if i can help it.

just curious said...

I'll agree. Don't know Shayla. I'm glad that she said something but not the "I accept your apology" shit because its' too self serving.

I hated when Tracey went on Rosie's show to explain himself and Rosie declares she accepts Tracey's apology like she's a diplomat.

I would rather just get fined and keep moving.I'm not kissing someone ass just so they feel good about themselves and make a buck in the process.

auntliddy said...

Yes, comma, what i was thinking!!!!! Why is she responsible for what lisa said? Lisa can handle herself; let her.

timebob said...

Jay Z was interviewed on Howard Stern and he made it clear they use that word in music to take the power back. To desensitize it from the original meaning. That Oprah was mad at him for using it but she didn't understand its intent and place in music.

Lisa is a very edgy comic, but she isn't coming from a place of hate with her jokes. She donates a lot of time to gay communities and competed for a gay charity when she did The Apprentice.

Social media is one of the best/worst things to happen to society everybody can share so much but others can condemn and preach from their pulpit on what to say and how to be.

FS said...

Biggest non issue of the year so far.

auntliddy said...

Okay, but whats wrong with so called frumpy girl getting hot guys? Look at tv, doug and carrie, belushi and courtney t smith, ect. Wheres the show with the lazy overweight manipulative woman with the model hot boyfriend ????? You think that doesnt cause body image problems? Think about it!!

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auntliddy said...

Well, theres a regular algonquin table for ya, jay z, oprah and stern! I wouldnt take advice from any if them. Who died and left them in charge of the world??? And i think if everyone stopped using that word it would die out , like " surrey" and " coal shute". It wants to die, but it keeps being dug up!!

Derek Harvey said...

@AuntLiddy----I get what you are saying regarding my feelings about Girls (the show not the gender), but Girls is targeted as a "realistic portray of young girls finding themselves" or whatever. Those other characters you mentioned are not gonna have much impact on the emotions or desires that the characters of a "ultra-hip, award winning" HBO show. Theres no laugh-tracks for one.

timebob said...

@auntliddy in your honor somehow during the week i'm going to work 'surrey' and 'coal shute' into conversations at work.

Excuse me while I go look up what the hell those words mean ;0)

Count Jerkula said...

Making a big deal out of it every time the word is used only gives it more power. You want it to go away, ignore it. Same thing goes for the Kardashians. By voicing your anger at either, all you are doing is giving them cheap heat and keeping them in the news.

just curious said...

You know why? When I first heard this story I was thinking Enty was reporting on something LL said in her comedy act and was picking on the Lena chick.I had no problem cause LL was doing her schtick and playing her "character" on stage.

I didn't know Lisa tweeted a pic of her and Lena hanging out and using that word.That's a problem for a lotta folks because you step outta element.
Would Lisa say that nigga stuff to a Black person on the streets that she didn't know? Or what if a Black person overheard that word coming from her? Not everyone is a fan of Insult Comedy becoz they find it offensive.You gotta know your surroundings.

auntliddy said...

Lololol, you have given me a laugh out loud!!!!

Count Jerkula said...

Is "coal chute" another term for "Hershey highway"? It is now.

auntliddy said...

I have to honest i have never seen the show. If i did, i wld prob be screaming "stand up straight" at lena the whole time, lol

auntliddy said...

When people used coal to heat their house, it was delivered outside through an incline into the basement. The incline was the coal shute.

auntliddy said...

Oh, its chute, my bad.

audrey said...

@Derek Harvey How can anything on tv be considered 'realistic'--be it an edgy HBO comedy or an E! reality show? It is entertainment and should be viewed as such. If Girls was a documentary then I could see your argument.

g.strathmore said...

I will not use this incident to judge Lena. I haven't seen Girls or any interview of the woman so I really have no idea whether I "like" her or not. I did like her funny campaign ad for Barack Obama though.

Jane Doo said...

just ONCE I'd like to use the internet and not see a goddamn thing about Lena Dunham

Derek Harvey said...

audrey---that made to sense to what I was trying to express. If it WAS a documentary then it WOULD be real (well hopefully real) but because its NOT a documentary, young-girls who thinks GIRLS is a more realistic view then say the Hills or Kardashians and will think that a Lena Dunham character is something to strive to be and they will get ugly tattoos and go to art school and most likely end up old maids---(jokes, jokes)---I dont wanna argue about Lena-have a nice weekend everyone

just curious said...

"Wheres the show with the lazy overweight manipulative woman with the model hot boyfriend ?????"


LOL,this reminds of when Shemar Moore was playing the "kissing game" on Ellen.He was kissi...well more like an act of charity with this dumpy white girl pulled from the audience.

I'm like GTFO!!!


Derek Harvey said...

*no sense

digal704 said...

"Crackers"?! All the time?! Are you watching reruns of "The Jeffersons?

rubylipgloss said...

OMG! @digal704 you just made me laugh so hard. The Jeffersons...I love it.

digal704 said...

I agree in most instances silence is golden. However, if I'm an high profile person I would disassociate myself from something that apparently went against my beliefs. Apparently this did according to her reply to Shayla. I would do this even as a low profile person. My choice. I thought Lena's silence was kinda funky too! Especially since she wasn't on Twitter, at all. Just my opinion and thankfully I'm free to express it, like everybody else. In other news tho, the world continues to turn in spite of it all!

Jolene Jolene said...

"Is coal chute another Hershey highway? It is now."

HAHAHAHAHAHAAA! Count, you really never disappoint.

Raspy said...

I think Tyler Perry movies are a lot more discouraging for the black community than two girls who were joking around using a term you'll hear at least 700 times at any hip hop concert. Or around a group of teen boys on the nyc subway.
Speaking of Tyler Perry, how about when we see some diversity in HIS casts then we can scold Lena for not having enough color on her show.
And I don't even like Lena or her show. But bullshit's bullshit.

Jason Blue Eyes said...

Mindy Kalin wrote an interesting thing regarding Lisa Lampanelli in her book. Basically it was 'If Lisa's only shctick is making jokes about all the black guys she's been with, then it might be time for Lisa to get another schtick.'

Vera L- said...

I'm no fan of Lena's, but what should she have said? I do think saying nothing was the right choice.

mannyv said...

I don't get it. Neither woman is black. Should she have called her a cracka instead?

Or is nigga now only for blacks and japanese?

http://youtu.be/-19ioGniZ88

Lizzie du said...

I never watched " the jefferson" i was expressing my opinion and my observations on WORDS people use that may or may not be offensive . Yes people still use the word cracker and to some people its just as offensive as the other word. I dont find it funny .

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Agent**It said...

auntliddy, loved this:"Well, theres a regular algonquin table for ya, jay z, oprah and stern! I wouldnt take advice from any if them. Who died and left them in charge of the world??? " Made my day.

just curious said...

Jeffersons didn't say "cracker",it was "honky".George was the only one one saying it.

timebob said...

So Lisa did respond and here is her interview about it. To the poster above who said she didn't care at first because she thought it was part of her act. Lisa said in her interview when she tweets it's Lisa the Comic not Lisa the Person. So to your point, it was part of an act.

http://www.xojane.com/entertainment/lisa-lampanelli-lena-dunham-tweet

Lizzie du said...

LOL i couldent said it better myself . I agree !

just curious said...

There are more blacks on Tyler's shows than there are all white shows put together.He's giving Black actors/actresses jobs not token roles.It his shit progressive ? No,but I can understand Blacks taking a role in a Tyler movie than no work at all.
"Diversity" is just another word for token.
I remember Halle Berry was in a tv show called "Models",she looked back and said she was glad it didn't last becoz her character was the token black chick.
Vanessa L. Williams asked to leave "Melrose Place" because she they (writers) could do nothing with her character.
Richard T. Jones (judging Amy),James mcDaniel (nypd blue),Eriq LaSalle (E.R.) Got itred of the one dimension role of the characters they played.
Tyler's shit isn't best (I don't watch) but to say he needs to diversify his show when you consider the lack of Black actors on tv in general outside of reality tv is a silly notion.

sharpened pencil said...

Lena looks more like girls her age than the typical actress and there are plenty of very attractive men who look at the whole woman to decide if they are attracted.
Believe me , no one would mistake me for a model and its not a problem. I had to laugh over the controversy around the "one man's trash" episode of Girls where she hooks up with Patrick Wilson playing a doctor. In my early twenties there was no shortage of successful men in their forties who were attracted to me, "troll" that i was. It is not a problem now either and I'm no more "attractive" according to the limited terms of what is beautiful in the lens now that I'm older.
Those guys who think their girl needs to look a certain way to impress other people really are not worth the time. And sure there are plenty of those guys too. We agree we are not attracted to each other, no matter what HE looks like.
How this post becomes about Ms. Dunham's physicality isn't surprising; as for the "N" word, I don't agree with it's use, and do agree with Pink Palace and Lola - she should not have been shamed into apologizing for something she didn't do.

Leviathan's Phone said...

I've never heard of Shayla Pierce, and so never called her "rad," and now she's saved me the time and trouble of ever learning another thing about her. The only person with any responsibility for Lisa Lampanelli's language is Lisa Lampanelli, and Shayla Pierce is a worthless, mindless, attention-seeking troll for calling out anyone besides Lisa Lampanelli for a word that isn't really a word, but still enough for Pierce to pretend to be offended by.

The only way Pierce will ever be "rad" is if its meaning changes to "As horrible as radioactive contamination."

sharpened pencil said...

Made me laugh, she has the writer's hunch. I haven't seen the show either.

Amy said...

The Twitter photo of Lena and Lisa laughing it up was from the Writers Guild Awards -- and Lena already last year was in hot water for not dealing with/being silent about and silently approving the alleged racism by one of the writers on her show. So the outrage was coming out of the context of all that has come before and wasn't just a one-time association that blew up.

Aside from understanding how that background contributed to and this recent flare-up, I haven't been following the details of this most recent dust-up closely enough to comment on it alone. Then again, I don't know that it really can be commented on in a standalone context.

lazyday603 said...

Now she's in trouble for something she didn't say? Give me a break.

just curious said...

"In my early twenties there was no shortage of successful men in their forties who were attracted to me, "troll" that i was."

Maybe because those successful men in their 40 wanted some young pussy.For a dude,that ain't hard to figure out.



"How this post becomes about Ms. Dunham's physicality isn't surprising;"

Itz not a gender thing,when you don't like someone whether itz becoz of their opinions,beliefs,etc.You HIGHLIGHT their flaws.Go check out the Rex Reed/Identity Theft post.

portlandjewel said...

Carckers! Hahahahahahahaha! Yeah! That's the same historically as the n word! Seriously?!

just curious said...

If it was part of her act,she didn't communicate well.Bad on her part.

I can get Joe Pecsi(sp) saying ethnic slurs in movies becoz he's playing a character.
Or Ray Liotta talking about "nigger stick-up men falling asleep in the getaway car" becoz he's acting.

If those 2 guys tweeted that shit or were caught on camera making an INTENDED joke.There's a problem.

Amy said...

She has a track record of associating with writers who think racism (the N-word in particular) is a laugh riot. The "hipster racism is kewl" phenom.

just curious said...

Most comedians have only one schtick (Andrew Dice Clay).Kinda like that Black comic who only talks about the differences between Blacks/whites..blackfolks do it like this,whitefolks do it like that.

I think the whole whitegirl dating/flirting black guys thing is old.I've seen it too much with Chelsea Handler,etc...kinda like the whitegirl singing "Black",itz tired.
I was watching "Chocolate Sundaes" the other nigh.They had a white girl/black girl duo acting out certain scenarios when it comes to dating brothas.You knew what was coming becoz everytime the blackgirl gave a response,she ended it with "Nigga,you got me fucked up!!!"While the whitegirl's response was more submissive and complying.Until they got to a scenario dealing with anal sex with a blackman.The whitegirl responded the same way as the blackgirl did: Nigga,you got me fuck up!!!

The crowd (mostly Blacks/Lats/Whites in plain sight) laughed out loud prolly in shock.

But the shit is old to me.

Li said...

@Amy is spot on! When her show came out it was touted as "the voice of a generation" but the show was very lacking in diversity (apparently there are no minorities in her generation).
When people called her out on it, her response and especially that of her staff writer Leslie Arfin came across not only as a cop out but very racist and that's why I think some people were upset with her silence...
Don't really care either way, I just don't get her show, but whatevs...

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Mango said...

Well, theres a regular algonquin table for ya, jay z, oprah and stern! I wouldnt take advice from any if them. Who died and left them in charge of the world??? And i think if everyone stopped using that word it would die out , like " surrey" and " coal shute". It wants to die, but it keeps being dug up!!

@auntliddy, you win the internets today for this! ^^^

ShinySpecialOne said...

Now you're a racist if you don't say anything? What a load of bull.

I'm not exactly a Lena fan, but the precedent of saying that one has an obligation to immediately deny and denounce is ridiculous. If Lisa Lampanelli referred to Dunham as her "hoe," no normal person would jump to the conclusion that Dunham approves of the use of the word "hoe," advocates legalized prostitution, is a lesbian, or is herself a giant slut (absent judgment made based on her Girls character).

Sensitivity politics is as @Pink_Palace says, a game of "damned if you do, damned if you don't."

just curious said...

Carckers!...nah,nowhere near the same.

Seriously."The Jeffersons" were a spin-off from "All in the Family" were Archie Bunker played the loveable bigot.Weezy worked as a maid for Archie,than her husband,George, started his dry cleaning bizness and she moved on up.George Jefferson said honky just as many times as Archie called Blackfolk "Spooks/Spade".

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just curious said...

We need to get back to the traditional way of things: When whitefolks saying nigger got their asses handed to them.

Lucas said...

@Derek Harvey - if you have read any of the interviews Lena Dunham has given (I'm thinking specifically of Claire Danes interviewing her for Interview magazine) it becomes immediately clear that she is not talking out her ass. She is a great writer and puts a lot of thought into what goes on the show and what it says about her and her generation.

Renoblondee said...

Right on @timebob!

just curious said...

Obama had to answer for Jeremiah Wright,not one but twice!!
That "anger is real" shit wasn't gonna fly with whitefolks.He needed their votes and money to win office.

Tina Fey had to answer for tracey morgan's COMEDY bit,not one but twice.Had to issue an open letter to Tracey basically saying he should be happy his black ass has a job.

PuggleWug said...

The show isn't a mirror image of our generation. I am 26, I believe close in age to Dunham. Her version of life on that show does not ring true for many "millenials". Don't even get me started on her version of Brooklyn. Who knew everyone in that city were white? I see not so much talent, but tons of nepotism and entitlement.

sharpened pencil said...

If your point is to defend Rex's review, nope. that review was over line, going beyond talking about MM's performance, the script, production... I'm glad he was called out on that.
OF COURSE some of those men were out for "young pussy", just like plenty of guys at any age. And my 20 year old self wasn't clueless that fact either. The response I found amusing to "One Man's Trash" was that someone as "attractive" as Patrick Wilson would never be attracted to someone as "unattractive" as Lena Dunham. In both my personal experience and in observation, I've found that untrue.

If you don't like what someone writes, their work- then go ahead and critique it. But to focus on a persons looks as much as people do is wrong. Not effective. At times just mean (Rex Reed). Put some thought into the argument, don't just jump to how they look.

At least Lena Dunham resists being reduced to her looks, at some point that shit just hurts. And also hurts the multitude of "average" women out there.

The post is about the use of the "n" word, and response to a tweet Lena Dunham didn't write, not Lena's looks. People don't talk about men's looks out of context nearly as often.

auntliddy said...

Thanks!!

bunny honey said...

Two wrongs do not make a right. Just because these dumb a$$ rappers says the N-word doesn't mean everyone in the black community says it of even approves of it. It's a very negative word and I refuse to listen to any songs with that word in it. And about this Lena whoever, birds of a feather flock together.

Sherry said...

Why would she go after Lena for something she never said? And I'm with Aunt Liddy. Let this heinous word disappear from our vernacular.

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babo said...

I suspect Jay-Z s explanations are a bit of back engineering to avoid being forced to rise himself from idiocy. Using that word is utterly idiotic if it was used to discriminate your own community in the past and racist if you re from any other community. IMHO

But Jay Z does not want to stray too much from his flock of fans, silly or not as they may be, Jay Z is not their father or mentor, he s just selling songs, he won t get confrontational with his audience ... remember his other back engineering about using "bitch" or maybe not when his daughter was born ...

hag said...

Puggle wug- i could not agree with you more!!!

"The show isn't a mirror image of our generation. I am 26, I believe close in age to Dunham. Her version of life on that show does not ring true for many "millenials". Don't even get me started on her version of Brooklyn. Who knew everyone in that city were white? I see not so much talent, but tons of nepotism and entitlement."

I am a 27 year old white chick, who likes indie music even, and I cannot stand Lena's version of "our generation" or even our gender at this moment in time. I do not relate to her entitled schtick. The people who are schilling her crappy show as "our voice" are people (HBO old white male producers, prob) have no clue what the reality of our demographic is like. and to whom i nobly say: *jerk off hand motion*

that said, this whole issue is still being blown way out of proportion.

Count Jerkula- you always make me laugh

Henriette said...

@Derek
I totally agree. I'm hoping Dunham's fifteen minutes will be soon up.

MadLyb said...

I don't know what to think of Lena. One more intelligent voice of her generation, or a coddled, privileged poser? I dunno...

PuggleWug said...

Was* , not were. I just caught that in my comment. I blame the Robitussen this time.

Erik said...

Not a fan of Lena Dunham, but, she was right to keep her mouth shut. You don't have a responsibility to make a comment every time someone says something about you for crying out loud.

PuggleWug said...

I think Dunham is very intelligent, as well as coddled and privileged. Her humor aims for shock value and irony. I know that other generations see mine as a bunch of asshole Lena Dunhams. Girls really doesn't help that generalization.

On topic, I think an apology or acknowledgment is the only thing Dunham could've done. People would still be wanting her head if she didn't do anything. She didn't tweet that word, so I really don't think an apology was needed, but I do think she made a smart move to get people off her back. Lampineli (sp?) is the only person who should have to answer to anything. I think it is an ugly, nasty word, that should just be dropped from our vocabulary. I don't like the word whore and slut, and have no intention to "own it", as they are offensive terms that shouldn't be uttered to a woman. I don't know why anyone would want to "own" the n word.

Vkn said...

First of all , many young kids in foreign countries use the word nigga. They think it means buddy. Thank all the rappers who freely use it all the time in their international hits.

Second of all, Lena didn't say it and didn't tetweet it so why should she have to deal with it? Get a fucking life bitch.

Mooshki said...

Entitled brat acts like an entitled brat? Shocking!!!

Mary Ann said...

What exactly could Lena Dunham have said about Lisa Lampanelli's stupid, offensive remark that wouldn't have brought more Lampanelli abuse down on her head? Silence (also known as "not feeding the troll") was probably her best response. But there are, clearly, people who didn't like that response either.

Not that it matters, but I rather enjoy "Girls." I'm definitely not a Millennial, but I like the show, flaws and all.

Tuxedo Cat said...

I wish Lena Dunham had taken a stand on Lisa L's use of the N word. It would have been a productive use of her current time in the media spotlight.

Unknown said...

serioulsy people cannot take a joke...it was the same word used by every rapper and the name of one famous rap group. bad taste of not there i no one in their right mind who though Lisa was using it in a racist fashion as a derogatory term towards black people. She was parodying what Jay or Kayne would call one of their friends....get a life.

Unknown said...

serioulsy people cannot take a joke...it was the same word used by every rapper and the name of one famous rap group. bad taste of not there i no one in their right mind who though Lisa was using it in a racist fashion as a derogatory term towards black people. She was parodying what Jay or Kayne would call one of their friends....get a life.

just curious said...

I think that's what Shayla was implying.Some folks are going in on Shayla for calling out Lena but not Lisa.I'm thinking Shayla wanted Lena to publicly reprimend Lisa for her tweets.

This reminded me of when Kirsten Dunst was promoting some indie film at a festival and looked embarassed when that foreign director was going about the Jews.He was JOKING but Kirsten didn't get the joke nor the media.

Or when Clinton called Jesse to the carpet for not calling out Sista Souljah and her remarks.Although,Clinton MISQUOTED what Souljah said,the controversy seperated him from the other candidates and painted him as a centered Democrat and not some whiteboy consumed with white guilt.

just curious said...

"If you don't like what someone writes, their work- then go ahead and critique it. But to focus on a persons looks as much as people do is wrong. Not effective. At times just mean (Rex Reed). Put some thought into the argument, don't just jump to how they look."

But the commenters did to Rex exactly what he did to the fat girl:criticise his looks and went further criticising his lifestyle,calling him a queen or telling him to suck it.



"At least Lena Dunham resists being reduced to her looks, at some point that shit just hurts. And also hurts the multitude of "average" women out there."

Give her time.There's nothing original about her schtick:Mary Plimpton,Lily Taylor,Juliette Lewis and Chloe Seyviny have all considered themselves average or an outcast in Hollywood.They're so indie and want conform to Hollywood's standard of beauty **eyes roll** Itz a joke.Hollywood is about image.There's reason who men in their 50's have abs and take botox(Brad Pitt,Cruise,Clooney),they're trying to stay in the game as long as possible.


"The post is about the use of the "n" word, and response to a tweet Lena Dunham didn't write, not Lena's looks."

And??? Folks on this site are calling Shayla a bitch for what? Criticising Lena? So your point is what?


" People don't talk about men's looks out of context nearly as often."

Men are judge by their income,assets and social standing,Women are judge by their looks and maternal qualities. Oh well,such is life.

just curious said...

They're so indie and don't want conform to Hollywood's standard of beauty

JSierra said...

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Let's not pretend like we wouldn't be having the same irate discussion if she had come out and addressed it. Everyone would be saying the same exact thing, right down to their issues with her nipples and netted neon tops.

Agent**It said...

Bread and Circuses.

DeeDee said...

nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga...blah blah blah

Maja With a J said...

Awful lotta honkies in here.

Violet E said...

People will find any reason to hate Lena. She didn't say it, she didn't have to respond. The end.