Thursday, February 07, 2013

Today's Blind Items - Casting Couch Marriage

Usually casting couch sex is just sex for a role or some kind of help. This one time though, a marriage came out of a casting couch situation because the pair were bonded by what happened after. The actress at the time was B list and actually approaching A list but still needed to audition for this role that she really wanted. The director made it clear what he wanted and the pair hooked up and he offered her the part. Then someone else got involved and our casting couch actress lost the part through no fault of the director. He was fully on board. The producer of the movie wanted someone else in the role and told the studio he would back out unless his actress got the role. The director and the producer argued and the producer won. It turns out that the producer realized during the filming that the A list actress he had chosen was not the right decision. She was being the worst diva ever and acting as if she had been an A lister for 25 years when she had not even been alive that long. The director would confide all this to his casting couch companion and promised her that he would get her the lead in his very next movie. She didn't get the lead, but she did get a really good role in the next movie. Meanwhile the A list diva never got another good role and is now a C+ on a good day who mainly does television.

144 comments:

Armadillo Cake said...

....I just heard my brain pack its bags in a bid to leave.....

Derek Harvey said...

Alicia Silverstone as the c+ actress??

Derek Harvey said...

and Catherine Keener. Director Joel Schumaker. Catherines small role in 8MM

FSP said...

Judd Apatow/Leslie Mann

Lola said...

I think Alicia Silverstone was always well liked and down to earth. I don't remember her ever being thought of as a raging diva.

lalaland said...

isnt kate beckinsale married to a director?

mmshukla008 said...

So we have an almost a actress, a director, a producer, and a c+ diva. so am i to understand the marriage consists of the director and his couch buddy who got a decent role later?

MJ said...

Clueless was directed by a woman

jane3113 said...

Joel Shumacker is gay.

MontanaMarriott said...

Schumacher is gay.

MontanaMarriott said...

Hmmm the person who got the role was under 25 years of age, so this is a young woman.

Primadiva said...

I like the Judd Apatow/Leslie Mann guess.

lazyday603 said...

Judd Apatow doesn't strike me as having the self esteem to demand sex for a role. And he and Leslie Mann were married in 1997, long before he started his run of hits in 2005 with The 40 Year Old Virgin.

Dana @ What the Frock? said...

I don't think Leslie Mann was ever approaching A list, not even now.

Karen said...

Hmm. The wording is curious. The actress was B list and approaching A, but it deosn't say what she is now. It also doesn't say that the marriage is current.

lalaland said...

what about tim burton & helena bonham carter?

Amber said...

What about Linda Hamilton & James Cameron with the first role she lost being The Abyss - Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio for the C+ TV actress?

I got the impression the movie she did get cast in was his next, which would be Terminator 2.

VIPblonde said...

Not Apatow/Mann. They met when she auditioned for The Cable Guy, which Apatow produced and Stiller directed

lalaland said...

Not sure she was ever close to A though. I honestly don't know much about her so prob not

All about Eve said...

Wow, that's a lot and I have no clue. Must go to google now

lalaland said...

To clarify.. I meant I'm not sure Helena was ever close to A list

Amber said...

I just got the feeling this was an older blind, talking about people who were young at the time.

MM said...

Not Kate Beckinsale/Len Wiseman. His directorial debut was Underworld which Kate starred in.

Jessi said...

See I read this as not necessarily "married" but a partnership from the casting couch that is being referenced as a marriage. However with that I have no clue.

Cathy said...

What about tim burton and helena bonham carter, with sleepy hollow as the movie? Christina Ricci would be the A list at the time actress who is now a C+ on a good day.

Amber said...

Nope. I misread. Mine is way wrong.

MontanaMarriott said...

Tim puts the women he dates in his movies. At the time he met Helena on the set of Planet of the Apes he was seeing the actress Lisa Marie and Helena was in her 30's then

VIPblonde said...

I've checked all the guesses; we don't have it right so far. I think @Amber might be on to something. How old do you think this is? 90s? 80s? Even further back?

dragon said...

Milla Jovotich and Paul W. S Anderson?

At least a Marriage came out of it.

jza1218 said...

Just a wild guess:
Film: Sleepy Hollow
Director: Tim Burton
Producer: Francis Ford Coppola
B-List Approaching A-List: Helena Bonham Carter (coming off Oscar and Globe nominations for Wings of the Dove)
A-List Diva Now C-List Mainly TV Now: Christina Ricci (Pan-Am last year)

Snapdragon said...

I'm with @Jessi. I don't think this is necessarily a marriage in a 'romantic/life partner' sense.

We've got the players:

- Actress 1: B-list/approaching A-list Actress
- Director
- Interfering producer
- Actress 2: A-list actress/diva who is less than 25 yo at the time

And the scenario:

- Director promises Actress 1 lead
- Producer wants Actress 2 instead, who turns out to be diva
- Director promises Actress 1 lead in in next film (gets good role instead)
- Actress 2 has fallen in rank to C+ doing television.
- Actress 1's fate is not given

So I don't see anywhere in there where there was an actual (romantic) relationship or marriage...

VIPblonde said...

Burton and Bonham-Carter aren't married

kday said...

Helena and Tim Burton aren't married

jza1218 said...

Marriage doesn't necessarily have to mean having a ceremony or formally having a union. Common-law for example.

ABlake said...

Kevin Smith is my guess.
He's married to the one from Jay and Silent Bob Strike back.
I'm thinking the lead actress from Dogma for the Diva? Maybe not, she seems older. Shannen Doherty from MallRats?

Karen said...

As good of an actress though she is, I REALLY don't see Helena Bonham Carter playing Katrina in Sleepy Hollow. Also, wasn't Tim Burton big enough at that point to tell the producer to eff off?

Amber said...

It says right in the 2nd sentence they got married.

lazyday603 said...

Tim Burton is the last director I would expect to be overruled on a casting decision. His films are all 100% his vision.

jza1218 said...

His last directorial effort before Sleepy Hollow was the bomb Mars Attacks.

Derek Harvey said...

I am still sticking by my answer. Clueless being directed by a woman is irrelevant, Joel comes across a little effimenent but is not publicly out and may be bisexual. Alicia Silverstone went from THE it girl to nothing---she may have been a diva with all that attention. Back in the 90s there wasnt as much access to gossip etc. and behind the scenes antics. The blind never once says the director married the other actress, enty is using "marriage" as termonology. Tim Burton knew Helena way before he met Ricci and if its Appaltow then whos the bitchy actress?

Frufra said...

Thank you, Amber.

A RESIDENT said...

Spielberg and Capshaw

Alma said...

I really like this guess!

VIPblonde said...

I'm IMDBing until my fingers fall off! So far, I've "notted":
Kate Beckinsale
Linda Hamilton
Judy Garland
Leslie Mann
Jane Fonda
Sharon Tate
Christine Taylor
Milla Jovovich

And obviously, anyone who's not MARRIED to a director. Who else? I know we can get it!!!!

jza1218 said...

Tim Burton says je met Helena on Planet of the Apes. Not way before.

http://timburton.tumblr.com/post/23585697125/question-how-did-you-and-helena-meet-tim

Amber said...

@VIP - Add Frances McDormand to the NOTS

VIPblonde said...

@A Resident They met when she auditioned for it. Also, actress 1 did not get the lead in the director's next movie; just a really good role

wahoowifey said...

Idk....I like the Milla Jovovich guess but with Luc Besson...not Paul T.A.

Renoblondee said...

This one is hard! Keep guessing guys, cuz I have no idea.

jza1218 said...

Can't be Apatow and Mann. They met on Cable Guy before he even directed a movie.

Derek Harvey said...

he didnt work with Ricci till 99

jza1218 said...

And Planet of the Apes was after that.

FSP said...

Renny Harlin/Geena Davis is another one

Jennifer H. said...

LH had already been in the first Terminator.

Amber said...

@FSP - Another NOT? Or another option?

Topper Madison said...

Helena Bonham Carter wasn't just starting out when she met Tim Burton. She had already been a leading lady in Hollywood for probably 15 years. Not to mention I think she was either still with, or just recently split from Kenneth Branagh. Tim Burton did not "make" her. She was already there.

Laura said...

Nancy Allen/Brian De Papalma

FSP said...

@Amber - another director/actress marriage...not sure if it works or not, haven't researched.

Char said...

I'm starting to think the term marriage actually does refer to a professional pairing.

All the actress/director marriages don't seem to fit at all.

ABlake said...

Oooooooooh I like the Spielberg/Capshaw guess!

Wonder what movie she was passed on. The only reason I (and I'm sure most others) know her name is because of her role in Indiana Jones. Maybe Karen Allen was the diva?

Amber said...

Add Emma Thompson/Kenneth Branagh to NOT.

msgirl said...

Wow I have no clue, but this is great gossip.

Most definitely not Helena, she was A before she met Burton.

prolixe said...

I want C+ on a good day diva bad actress to be Elizabeth Berkley. Nothing else fits but damn, that sounds just like her.

Amber said...

Could Geena Davis & Renny Harlin work? He first directed her in Cutthroat Island. The movie he directed before that was Cliffhanger in which Janine Turner was cast. She's now mostly TV and odd plastic surgery.

Lauren said...

The blind doesn't say that the director and actress are still married. Sandra Oh was married to Alexander Payne, who first directed her in Sideways. That was a great role, but not the lead. However, they don't fit otherwise. Sandra wasn't approaching A list (I don't think) and a film that Payne directed previously with a young diva could have been Election with Reese Witherspoon, but Reese isn't C list and doing tv.

VIPblonde said...

Here's an example of what we're looking for, but it's a not:
Actress 1: Adrienne Barbeau
Director: John Carpenter
Producer: Irwin Yablans
Actress 2: Jame Lee Curtis (not a huge diva who hardly ever worked again
Movie 1: Halloween
Movie 2: Someone's Watching Me! (Directed by John Carpenter, Lauren Hutton as the lead, but Adrienne Barbeau is 3rd billed)

Frufra said...

I've been looking at Laura's guess - it could work. The diva could be Margot Kidder from De Palma's 1973 movie Sisters. His wife Nancy Allen was one of the mean girls in the movie Carrie, released in 76.

Frufra said...

Kidder was 25 when Sisters came out.

Grey said...

Just throwing out a few other options to chew on:

Kate Winslet/Sam Mendes
Rachel Weisz/Darren Arronfsky
Jenna Fischer/James Gunn
Christine Taylor/Ben Stiller

Frufra said...

Aww shit, though - Kidder was a much bigger star later with Superman - duh. This is a hard one!

Sherry said...

Karen Allen fucked her way into most of her roles according to my uncle who was friends with her but has now since passed.

I'm liking the Spielberg/Capshaw guess though!

Amber said...

Strike Kate Winslet from the list...
From @VIP's list..."I'm IMDBing until my fingers fall off! So far, I've "notted":"
Kate Beckinsale
Linda Hamilton
Judy Garland
Leslie Mann
Jane Fonda
Sharon Tate
Christine Taylor
Milla Jovovich
Emma Thompson
Frances McDormond
Kate Winslet

tealily said...

Yeah, I was thinking Spielberg and Capshaw the entire time I read it.

VIPblonde said...

@Amber We have to add Capshaw. Not her; they met at the audition for Temple of Doom and she got the part

Frufra said...

I could see Karen Allen as the diva, but was she really approaching A then? She had the role in Animal House, but I can't remember how big of a deal that was - her role, I mean. Obivously Animal House was kind of a big deal :-p.

lazyday603 said...

Tim Burton's "bombs" make a lot of money. I was looking at the year end box office numbers & his bomb "Dark Shadows" pulled in $240 million worldwide.

Amber said...

I looked at Spielberg and Capshaw earlier and didn't feel like it worked. Right before Temple of Doom, Spielberg made: Twilight Zone which doesn't really have any women of note; ET w/Dee Wallace who is in a bunch of movies coming up; and Raiders of the Lost Ark which has Karen Allen who seems to be a lot of movies.

msgirl said...

No! I love Karen Allen, it can't be her!

Amber said...

I've been working off this list. I'm going to automatically strike Madonna from the list because no way is she a B-list actress approaching A at any time. I'm also striking Ingrid Bergmann, because I think that may be going back way too far.

VIPblonde said...

Thanks Grey!
Not Winslet - Mendes never directed her
Not Weisz - They were never married
Not Fischer - The movie of his that she was in was the first feature he directed (we need someone to be in the second project)
Not Taylor - The rest doesn't fit. She's in Zoolander after they got married, and Leslie Mann (star of Cable Guy) is all movie

VIPblonde said...

@Amber LOL, me too!

msgirl said...

Amber, none of those fit that I can see. So marriage may include partnerships.

Amber said...

Strike Nancy Allen. Her role in Carrie is described as a "pivotal supporting role," but the movies De Palma made prior to that (Obsession, Phantom of the Paradise, and Sisters), don't really have an actress that works as an A-list-then, C+-list-TV-now.

JoElla said...

Frufra, she was in Star Man and was really huge back then.

I really like the Spielberg guess, remember his divorce from Amy was huge and messy and very costly at the time.

Amber said...

Did anyone debunk my Geena Davis, Renny Harlin, Janine Turner?

NOT:
Kate Beckinsale
Linda Hamilton
Judy Garland
Leslie Mann
Jane Fonda
Sharon Tate
Christine Taylor
Milla Jovovich
Emma Thompson
Frances McDormond
Kate Winslet
Kate Capshaw
Nancy Allen
Madonna
Ingrid Bergmann

Frufra said...

JoElla, I agree re. StarMan, but wasn't that kind of the pinnacle of her success? I mean, nothing was as huge as Raiders in her career. Not even close. But I agree also that she doesn't really fit.

Amber said...

NOT Joanne Woodward - She was in Rachel, Rachel which was Paul Newman's first directorial movie.

VIPblonde said...

@Amber Harlin and Davis were married the same year Cliffhanger came out (meaning they met before), and Harlin was also a producer on Cliffhanger. Doesn't fit

Frufra said...

Amber, I'm thinking Geena Davis doesn't work because she was the lead in that crappy pirate movie, and she had already won the Oscar for The Accidental Tourist and done Thelma and Louise.

Amber said...

NOT Giulietta Masina - she was in Fellini's first directorial, Variety Lights.

Amber said...

Thanks @ VIP & Fru :)

Frufra said...

Has anyone notted Jovovich? I"m losing track.

msgirl said...

Frufru, yes Starman was the pinnacle. How I love that movie. That's when I fell in love with Jeff Bridges.

Lucas said...

@ABlake - not Kevin Smith. His wife Jen Schwalbach was a reporter for USA Today when they met. She didn't make it into any of his flicks until after they married.

Amber said...

@Fru - yup!

NOT:
Kate Beckinsale
Linda Hamilton
Judy Garland
Leslie Mann
Jane Fonda
Sharon Tate
Christine Taylor
Milla Jovovich
Emma Thompson
Frances McDormond
Kate Winslet
Kate Capshaw
Nancy Allen
Madonna
Ingrid Bergmann
Geena Davis
Joanne Woodward

Amber said...

NOT Anna Karina

Frufra said...

Amber, I'm so busy IMDBing that I missed the list that was RIGHT THERE. Thanks.

Frufra said...

Keep searching, super sleuths! I can't play any more, but I'll be back later to see what you guys came up with! This is my favorite kind of BI.

Eloise said...

I'm trying to make Rose McGowan/Robert Rodriguez work, but she had the lead in Planet Terror after he directed Sin City

Amber said...

Eliminating Gena Rowlands, because I don't get the impression Stella Stevens in Too Late Blues fits the A-list-then/C+-list-TV-now role.

msgirl said...

No definitely not Anna Karina I don't think Enty even knows who Godard is!But Pierrot le Fou is another favorite movie of mine, I had a girl crush on Anna.

Amber said...

I just eliminated Adrienne Barbeau (sorry if someone did earlier - SO MANY TABS OPEN).

Last on my list is Louise Lasser who was married to Woody Allen...

Amber said...

Okay. Not Louise Lasser. They were married in '66 when he directed his first movie.

Grey said...

Is there ANY chance this is Sharon Tate and Roman Polansky?

First film: Repulsion
Director: Roman Polansky
A-list actress: Catherine Deneuve (later one an academy award, still super famous in France), age 22 at time of film

Next Movie:

The Fearless Vampire Killers directed by Polansky
Sharon Tate was the female lead, but there were two male leads which were much bigger parts

She also had an uncredited role in Polansky's Rosemary's Baby.

VIPblonde said...

Any try Bo Derek yet? I'll start looking into it

VIPblonde said...

Nevermind, it's a NOT

dragon said...

Im going to save ya peeps the trouble. It's Me! I had sex with Harvey weinstein but he played me after I played with his 3 belly roll he left me to dust. Now im working as special guest Star on Fox Bones.

ABlake said...

Ahh, thanks Lucas.
Folks, just because Spielberg said he didn't meet Kate until Temple of Doom doesn't make it so.
Just tossing that out, his divorce was fierce.
Karen Allen was in Star Man..I forgot about that.

ABlake said...

That's a great guess Grey!

VIPblonde said...

My head hurts. From the blind, the bitchy actress who got cast is under 25, so the actress that married the director would be under 25 when all this happened. Still got nothing :/

ABlake said...

But she wasn't B on her way to A at the time, was she?

VIPblonde said...

@Grey Sharon Tate doesn't fit. Catherine Deneuve isn't a diva who "never got any good roles" after that movie. Deneuve was nominated for an Oscar in 1993

ABlake said...

Come to think of it, the Geena/Renny guess is the best fit.

Onyx Loathes Hydrangeas said...

I do think Grey might be on to something, maybe the actress who got married is dead. I was thinking she just isn't famous anymore but it could explain him trailing off and not explaining what happened to the marriage or their current status. Obvs the bitchy actress is alive and on tv but maybe the chick who got married is not. All talk of the woman from the casting couch is in past tense.

megan00m said...
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megan00m said...

Mendes directed winslet in revolutionary road

annabella9 said...

I can't imagine spielberg not getting his choice of actresses for his movies. he's had huge power for years and years.

Agent**It said...

Topper, that's what I was thinking. Not HBC.

Agent**It said...

Who's on first?

VIPblonde said...

What's on second

crila16 said...

I don't think the two are actually married...I think it's only a casting couch marriage, just like you have an office wife or office husband. It's someone in a work environment (for example) that you confide in and go to as if they were your wife or husband, even though they are not.

ulalume said...

Anyone checking Actors that sometimes direct Like Sean Penn or Warren Beatty? I don't think they fit but maybe someone else like that?

Amber said...

Neither Sean Penn nor Warren Beatty work as far as I can tell :/

Amber said...

@crila - Ugh. If it's a "casting couch marriage" IDK how we'd ever figure it out. :/

Eve said...

Here's a feeble guess:
Director: Paul W.S. Anderson
Actress: Milla Jovovich
Movie 1: Soldier
Producer: Jerry Weintraub
Actress: Connie Nielsen
Movie 2: Resident Evil

just curious said...

There was a story about her and another actor,his name escapes me but Alicia is a big animal rights activist and will preach to anyone even if they didn't want to hear it...just like those folks from the Watchtower.You could be eating dinner with Alicia,if she saw you eating meat,she'll voice her opinion about it,giving you facts and stats about animals being killed and rat feces being dumped in the sausage factory,just a bible thumping heffa except she's PETA,right.Anyway,this actor,Jason something,was working with her on a movie,got tired of her ranting and jumped her shit about it.He commented on the incident in an magazine article.Thought the boy deserved a medal for that one.

just curious said...

From Alicia's IMDB bio:

Was turned down for the lead in "My Father the Hero". They said she was too heavy for the part. The role went to Katherine Heigl.

Lola said...

Martin Scorsese

Movie - Raging Bull

Actress who got part (now TV) - Cathy Moriarty

Casting Couch Actress who married Director - Isabella Rosellini

Next Film - Il pap'occhio (Scorsese acted in this, didn't direct)

Producer - Robert Chartoff

g.strathmore said...

Didn't Renny Harlin direct Geena Davis in Long Kiss Goodnight with Samuel Jackson a long time before Cutthroat Island?

g.strathmore said...

Whoa, I was way wrong. Cutthroat Island was a year before Long Kiss Goodnight.

margie said...

what about emme rossum as the diva actress? maybe from phantom of the opera?

Nothanksdarlin said...

Oh my! Love the sharron Tate possibility

CDAN Reader said...

This is HARD! I think we need to back into the clues and try to figure out who the bratty almost A-lister could be that is now on the skids as a C, instead of looking for married actress/director couples. Like others have pointed out, I’m not sure there was an actual marriage. That could simply be a term for their relationship. It could also be someone who directed ONCE or TWICE and does something else now. That would open things up for a zillion couples because we don’t know the current status of the original B-lister. Is she alive or dead, what is her current ranking, etc.

So…I’m taking the path of least resistance. All of these ladies are in the DM:

Mira Sorvino
Kim Basinger
Jane Fonda
Denise Richards

I’m going with Door #4 and Denise Richards. She is also in the photos today. Denise would qualify as the bratty almost A-lister that now struggles to get on TV as a C+. She was in The World is Not Enough as that ridiculous Christmas Jones character. Director was Michael Apted. His very next film after that was Enigma with Kate Winslet in a smaller role but I couldn’t find anything about them having a professional partnership or even staying in touch. Unfortunately, Richards was older than 25 in that Bond movie but just barely.

Denise also did Starship Troopers with Paul Verhoeven as the director. His very next movie after that was Hollow Man with Kim Dickens in a smaller role (Shue was the lead). Again, he’s been married for 500 years and I couldn’t find any proof that they even keep in touch. I really think the key is identifying the former diva that is now treading water to stay in the spotlight and then the other puzzle pieces will fall into place.
I give up. My head hurts!

NaughtyNurse said...

I like the Spielberg/Capshaw/Allen guess. Karen Allen is well known for having serious psychiatric issues, and she and Spielberg did not get along well making Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Henriette said...

Jennifer Connolly? She's married to a director.

PookieTwo said...

Jennifer Connolly is married to Paul Bettany who I believe is mainly an actor.

I think Enty means "marriage" here in the literal sense. The couple in question actually got married after bonding over their casting situation.

g.strathmore said...

Oh my gosh, researching this blind has made me realize that Karen Allen and Amy Irving are two different people! All these years I thought they were the SAME PERSON!

Bridget said...

Could Joe Wright and Rosamund Pike work?

Agent**It said...

Lola, I thought that was a terrific guess. But sadly, I found this "It was Pesci who saw a photograph of Cathy Moriarty at a New York restaurant, and was amazed by her resemblance to the real life Vickie LaMotta. Though she had acted in the past, she was not professionally trained and had no prospects of success. Her test won the hearts of both Scorsese and De Niro, and after showing it to the skeptical Actors Guild, she got the part."

lazyday603 said...

Joe Wight met Rosamond Pike when he directed her in Pride and Prejudice. And he broke it off weeks before the wedding when she sent out Christmas cards to everybody they know with a picture of the two of them in a hot tub. Whoops. So they never got married.

Alice Tate said...

I am thinking Lea Thompson, married to Howard Deutch, director of Pretty in Pink. Next movie was Some Kind of Wonderful. I know it doesn't perfectly fit, since I don't think John Hughes regretted casting Molly Ringwald, but it was the peak of her career. Just throwing it out there...

Blind ItemMe said...

Isn't Julianne Moore married to a director? Bart something? But I think he is more of an indie director.

Yep this is a tough one. Hmmm.

samantha said...

Ignoring the B-almost-A rating issue, I think this is Mark Waters, Dina Waters/Spybey and Tori Spelling. The first movie was The House of Yes, which was Tori's only really good movie role. She was 23 when it was filmed, I believe, and there were rumors about how she got the role and how she acted on set. Dina and Mark married three or four years later.

The second movie was Freaky Friday, in which Dina got a role.

asiseeityes said...

Alice Tate has the best guess: Lea Thompson, Howard Deutch & Molly Ringwald. On the Pretty in Pink wikipedia page, it states that Molly had to be convinced to take the role after they couldn't find another actress for it. She probably was trying to avoid being typecast as John Hughes's muse. It's likely that Lea Thompson (on verge of A list due to Back to the Future) auditioned. Molly never got a better role. Lea got the secondary female lead in Some Kind of Wonderful, directed by Deutch after Pretty in Pink, and married Deutch.