Thursday, January 11, 2018

Blind Items Revealed #3

October 16, 2017

Someone this week sent me a tip about a sexual assault that happened. What made this different is that when I read the tip, I realized the person assaulted is someone I know. That's not to say I haven't known many people in the industry who have been assaulted, I just didn't know she had. The other crazy thing is that it is in her words. The tipster took a screenshot from a private group my friend belongs to. Have you heard of my friend? I don't know. She is super funny and makes me laugh until I cry when she performs. She does some acting and other things.

The person who assaulted her is in an acting family. He is an A list mostly movie actor who is an Academy Award winner/nominee. If you read the site, you know this is not the first time he ha done something like this. He has never been the person you look to for morals or ethics.

"This isn't exactly comedy related., but I needed to warn my fellow femme artists, in light of the Weinstein revelation.

About a year and a half ago I was sexually assaulted by ______________. After mounting himself on my then underage friend after she kept saying no, he started talking to me and offering to read my scripts. I was of course excited and had a bit of a crush on him. We made out and fooled around, I was thrilled. One time he told me to drive to set at night, I did and brought him a birthday card. He glanced at it and then looked around and suddenly had his d**k out. I got nervous and didn't do anything. He moved my hand on it and then started pushing my head down. I resisted but he kept pushing. I didn't move and he got frustrated. I finally gave in. He left right after. I felt disgusting and he sent me a dirty text. I drove home crying. I felt like I had to be nice to him after that. I drunkenly told him he was a sexual predator. He told me I was crazy. I apologized to him, fearing he would ruin my career. I was only 22. I wish I spoke up about this sooner because it's been eating at me. Sharing this isn't easy, I'm sweating as I type this. But I'm sick and tired of the men of Hollywood getting away with sexual assault. It took this town 20 years to expose Harvey Weinstein. I want to keep an open dialogue so that doesn't happen again."

Violet Paley/James Franco (I had planned on keeping Violet's name out of this until this week when she came forward)

100 comments:

Do Tell said...

I said it last time. After he kept pushing himself on her friend against her will, why on earth did she go anywhere with him? She needed it to happen to her to realize something was wrong with him?

Don Kieballs said...

A lot of Franco (non) blinds today. I don't know if this is true or not, because of previous things she has said, including rape jokes. I've made plenty of off-color jokes and I have my own story, so I don't think the jokes mean she is lying. But she's going to have to face a lot of hatred online, which is horrible if it really happened.

Donald Cox said...

Victim blaming is not a good look post-Weinstein, Do Tell.

Alexandria Anna said...

Great that she came forward, it's certainly not easy thing to do.

Do Tell said...

Well, Donald, I never victim blamed. I did not say his conduct was her fault.

I'm asking why she thought he was so cool and so sexy after she knew he kept assaulting her friend. I'm asking why she put herself in a situation with someone who she already knew was a deviant. It is a legitimate question.

sandybrook said...

She should have called the cops when he went after her underaged friend.

Ice Angel said...

FYI-she doesn't state whether or not she knew of him making moves on her underage friend prior to her relationship with him. They may have compared notes later.

Eve Esquire said...

Part of the reason these accounts of assault and rape that are coming out? Are to education to other women. To not dismiss your instincts.

If the story was about a woman who came home to her apartment and noticed the light in her hallway was out but went to her apartment anyway, are we going to ask why didn't pay closer attention to the light after she gets robbed/raped/murdered?

I encourage everyone who has questions regarding those coming forward to read The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker to understand why women may not do the "right" thing in the time of danger.

Donald Cox said...

She’s already facing tonnes of shit for her jokes on Twitter, I’ve been reporting as many abusive comments as I can today. People still cling to the nonexistent idea of The Perfect Victim, as if you deserved it if you’re anything less than a perfect angel

Donald Cox said...

You’re assuming she knew what Franco did to her friend *before* they started a relationship, in your drive to find a hole in the story and to blame an assault survivor - which is what you’re doing despite “legitimate questions”.

Natasha said...

Do tell;

You bring up a valid question. During my time in the sewer of LA, I noticed that after a time, people would become utterly uncomprehending to behavior that would make an outsider, like me, wince.

Things I've read about prison camps in the various wars come to mind of how people would pull down the shutters of their minds and hearts and do whatever it took to live. I recall a friend of mine that struggled to be known in that cesspool. She would plot out her "dates" like a general planning a war. If I service "C" he may pass me up to "B" and so on.

The hell?

She wasn't like that before she went to LA. Utterly calloused to the core, she saw every encounter, planned or forced, as the cost of doing business.

Wantsapphires said...

"The Gift of Fear" and "Protecting the Gift" are wonderful resources. I'm having my daughter read them before she goes off to college, along with my advice to "stay away from drunk dudes."

Kimberley said...

There is another book which is excellent: 'How to Spot a Dangerous Man.' It lists different types of dangerous men, from the obvious violent ones to the manipulative, and the tricks they play to take you off your guard. Sorry, can't remember the author, but it was on Amazon. It's interesting and I would definitely recommend it.

Mad Hominem said...

Is this a good time to remind CDAN that what matters in court is the weight of the evidence and not the seriousness of the charges?

As I read it, a woman is making allegations against James Franco that,
to the best of my knowledge isn't proven. I should reserve judgement
until people start pleading in court.

Donald Cox said...

Have you reserved judgement on Spacey, Cosby and Weinstein?

Eve Esquire said...

Weight of evidence is five women, five different accounts.

GingerSnap said...

I know her too. She is a wonderful, hilarious and intelligent woman that would never make something like this up. I've seen her groped and assaulted a disturbing number of times.

She's not lying. No matter what you think of her... just know that she is not lying. I'm so proud of her for coming forward and I hope she exposes all the other douches that have come after her and our friends.

LOVE YOU V!

totaji said...

You’ve seen her assaulted and groped numerous times? Why didn’t you do anything? I don’t follow?

MovieBuff said...

Who watches their girl be molested? Help ya girl. Ninjas in clubs grab asses and titties. Girls who peep 👀 such act typically remove their girl if she’s too drunk. Or release punches against perpetrators. It’s called you see with your eyes not with your hands.

GingerSnap said...

@totaji

I did try...many times. But you have to understand that we are "nobodies" compared to these men and it's their word against ours. Some of them get violent and a lot of them have guns. I reported it to LAPD if I saw it and I would get laughed at.

I don't know how much time you've spent with drunk, arrogant, famous men but they are on a WHOLE other level of power than the rest of us. Nobody would believe us. Even the people that saw it with their own eyes would still defend Franco and all these other pervs. These men are terrifying, it kills me every day that I'm not as brave as Violet to stand up and say something. The world is f*cked up and we learned to just giggle and take it... but thanks to V, that might change now. Maybe now I'll have the balls to stand up to the Franco's of the world now.

I hope you do too.

Eve Esquire said...

Don't say that there is not enough evidence or proof when what you mean is "burden of bravery". Why didn't these women know better? Why didn't they do it different? Why couldn't they in that moment done what I would have thought to do safely behind my computer screen when not in any imminent danger?

And if these women are guilty of not being brave enough, so are all the friends of those outed for witnessing, knowing and saying that they couldn't do anything.

MovieBuff said...

According to the 1980s movie everybody IS somebody. So miss me with this “nobodies” talk.

“One time he told me to drive to set at night, I did and brought him a birthday card. He glanced at it and then looked around and suddenly had his d**k out. I got nervous and didn't do anything. He moved my hand on it and then started pushing my head down. I resisted but he kept pushing. I didn't move and he got frustrated. I finally gave in. He left right after. I felt disgusting and he sent me a dirty text. I drove home crying.”

There is 0 force or assault here. Whipping out a penis is a dirtbag move. Using her hand to jerk the penis is dirtbag. Pushing the head is the ultimate dirtbag move but this girls describes her doing an act she regrets.

She should feel 0 shame. As women these are things we learn from unless your mother specifically tells you about dirtbags who whip out their penis unannounced then how do you know what to do in the moment.

His frustration of her reluctance to perform the act is what made her give in. She wanted to please him because of HIS PERSON.

She realized in reto



Count Jerkula said...

So she sucked his dick and how is she a victim? Hey, i fucked a fat broad while i was high on meth, the next day i hated myself, should i attack her on twitter? Fuckin insanity. No one wants to be left behind, so everyone needs a victim story.

Mad Hominem said...

@Donald Cox
According to a quick google search (it's all I have time for), Weinstein's camp says he's fighting the allegations, at least those from Salma Hayek and Ashley Judd.

As I recall, Spacey gave a very vague denial, but he has been stripped of a career without his day in court either. To date, while others are speaking out on his behalf (Bryan Singer), he appears not to be making public statements. (Bryan Cranston of Breaking Bad claims that he has never seen Spacey's bad behavior, but he says he believes it.)

Bill Cosby made some damning admissions during a deposition that support the allegations made against him: he admitted buying sedatives with the purpose of putting them into women's drinks at parties, so he could take advantage of them:
http://defamer.gawker.com/report-bill-cosby-admitted-getting-qualludes-to-drug-w-1716082490

Granted, the kind of evidence Cosby accidentally gave doesn't come along in every trial, but that evidence weighs more than the allegations alone would, and I am inclined to believe Cosby's own slip-up.

@Eve Esquire
Five different accounts means five accusations that don't necessarily have any supporting evidence behind them. We saw in the 2016 presidential election that women "came out of the woodwork" (with Gloria Allred's assistance and coaching, no less) and accused Donald Trump of all kinds of sexual harassment, only their cases fell apart; in the case of Summer Zervos, former Apprentice star, she had written to Donald Trump and spoke of him in glowing terms; when that memo surfaced, it undermined her allegations completely. Plenty of liberal women, including those on this site, are quite prepared to believe any damning allegation against a man, especially a man who said abortion access should be restricted.

@GingerSnap - "Just know that she is not lying." You cannot hope to use this argument in court; perhaps in the court of public opinion, it will hold sway, but it cannot and must not be considered evidence in a court of law. What matters is the weight of the evidence against Franco.

Eve Esquire said...

@Mad Hominem - We are not in court. We are in the comment sections of a blog. Right now, women (liberal or not) are prepared to believe other women after years of men giving reasons why they shouldn't. Five different accounts says that something is going on and shouldn't be dismissed. Even if nothing happens in court? Women will be able to make better choices in their life based on James Franco's character.

Also, just because you bold it does not make it important.

DumDumPop said...

Wow there's some REALLY disgusting comments here lately. I'm absolutely shocked at how grotesque some of you are, and over James Franco? That's the hill you wanna die on? Dude looks like a greasy, sweaty mess, and I have heard stories about what a man baby he is to work with. But I guess all these unknown names, you must all be Franco stans. You are all very good at playing pretend in being "woke" when it is convenient for you. Also, to Gingersnaps, thank you for sharing your story and please tell Violet I hope she's okay. You didn't even have to and you're incredibly cool for doing also.

Also, to DO TELL, I must tell you that you are not FOOLING anyone with your comments. You claim to not be victim blaming and then proceed to make Violet the guilty one with every "question" fo yours...You are full of shit, sweaty.

Eff Yiew said...

Fuck outta here with this victim blaming shit. Since when has having a lack of common sense become "victim blaming"?

She even says that they fooled around and made out. She brought him a card. So he tried to get more out of her in the form of a blowjob. He "mounted" her underage friend (What the fuck is that? Did he fuck her? Or was it just dry humping?) and she was still fine with him.

He pushed her head down and she blew him. He didn't physically restrain her. He didn't even threaten her (suck my dick or I'll make sure you never work here again). She could have left any time she wanted.

I said it before and I'll say it again, a good amount of these women coming forward, aren't "powerful" or "victims". They're enablers. They let this shit happen and kept their mouths shut in the hopes they'd benefit. Because for some women, fame is more important than their self-respect.

She fooled around with him, she made out with him. He wanted a blowjob. She gave it to him reluctantly. And you know why? Because she hoped it'd help her career because she wants to be famous, and have lots of instagram followers, and be on tv, and she'll get to walk on the red carpet, and get those gift bags with all the free high-end makeup...

For some women, they dream about this shit since childhood like they do their wedding day.

My little Spanish style cottage said...

Reading a lot of the comments. I'm just shocked. You know, coming forward is bad enough when you're an incest survivor from your brother (.....I didn't tell until I was 24. He was a family favorite and as I knew it would, all Hell broke loose....) but imagine having to come forward about sexual abuse or rape against a Hollywood star or studio head. You're going to have fans that never believe you because their favorite person would never do that. Or someone that cute would never do that. Or why would a studio head with that much to lose, do this..? It's not about any of that. It's about power and control over another person's life. It's about taking over their thought process, everything. They scare you into believing there will never be any help. Sometimes, I think we prove them right..look at what the victims are put through.

GingerSnap said...

@Eve Esquire

Thank you.

You said exactly what I was thinking but didn't have the energy to type out. The shame and guilt we're all feeling right now is exhausting and I probably shouldn't have commented in the first place but V's story needs to be heard and validated and hopefully will bring about change. I don't know how, the problem seems so deep-rooted, I'm afraid business will return to usual.

Young girls in LA / Hollywood are constantly taken advantage of. And the comments in this thread about none of this holding up in court is exactly why we don't speak up. We want to SO desperately, but we see what happens when our peers do... they are blacklisted, shunned, slut-shamed and often physically beaten for speaking up. I guess we should all just let ourselves get the sh*t kicked out of us? Maybe that would be better than the sexual assault and rape. The best is when they combine all three. Ahh, memories.

I came to Hollywood to write a few years ago and I should probably put everything I've seen and heard into a book but... who would believe it?

Thanks for your thoughtful responses. <3 I guess we just have to keep trying until people understand something that is right in front of their faces....

MovieBuff said...

Who here has sucked off someone and realized after it wasn’t the right thing to do?

🙋🏼‍♀️

BayAreaGirl said...

@DumDumPop, I agree that a lot of ppl here are going to look really bad with the test of time. I suspect the LA times has more tea specifically relating to the acting school. They're just waiting for Franco's PR machine to cycle through their excuses before hitting them with evidence that contradicts or undermines their statements. Remember, the first NYT piece on Weinstein wasn't as bad or detailed as the articles published just days later.

Cail Corishev said...

This is a good example of how much gray area there is when the only question is consent. Did she consent, or was she forced? Depends on what she means by "resisted." The college feminist ideal where you get written permission for every act ("May I touch your arm now?") doesn't exist in the real world.

This sounds like what has been going on in the backseats of cars ever since there were cars: guy wants to get it on, girl wants to slow down. Except in this case the thing in the back of her mind wasn't what her mom and dad had warned her about boys, but what it would mean to her career. It's a shitty situation, but she's describing a cad, not an assaulter (in this case).

Mark said...

Am I victim-blaming by copying and pasting from her twitter account?

@VioletPaley
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I like planning ways to ruin someone's life the moment I meet them

2:26 PM - 2 Sep 2017

Eve Esquire said...

The question shouldn't be "What was she expecting when she came to Hollywood?" or "Are we sure it's not just revenge?" it should be, "Why does anyone think this is acceptable behavior from a man?"

@GingerSnap - <3

Mark said...

1 of the 5 accusers:

"Katie Ryan, who took classes at Studio 4, said Franco 'would always make everybody think there were possible roles on the table if we were to perform sexual acts or take off our shirts.'"

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/sexual-misconduct/james-franco-accused-five-women-sexually-inappropriate-behavior-n836826

I am not defending James Franco. Unlike most of you, I don't think I've ever seen a single project of his. I only know him as a greasy slimeball through enty blinds.

I've had jobs which held out carrots from which I never got a bite. I wasn't required to take off my clothes or perform a sexual act, but I felt beaten nonetheless, that I didn't get the carrot.

Katie Ryan was apparently willing to take off her shirt and/or perform a sexual act if the pay was right ... without negotiating and putting it in writing first. She didn't get the "possible" carrot. What am I missing?

Mark said...

I'm usually on the other side of the fence, but I'm seeing some weak arguments today. We, as a society, cannot stamp everyone who is accused with a "guilty" tattoo, without at least considering contrary evidence. Thoughtful discussion is not "victim blaming."

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Eve Esquire said...
The question shouldn't be "What was she expecting when she came to Hollywood?" or "Are we sure it's not just revenge?" it should be, "Why does anyone think this is acceptable behavior from a man?"

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Are we ready to hang anyone who does not behave acceptably? JayZeus, I behaved unacceptably toward my wife yesterday, my business partner last week, my son today, ...! Is that all it takes to ruin a person now? If MY DAUGHTER told me she planned to perform sexual acts in exchange for a "possible role," I would find her behavior unacceptable. What would I then do with my opinion?

Eve Esquire said...

Mark, if you're pushing your wife and/or your son's head to your exposed penis for oral sex, then, yes. That is unacceptable.

Violet said...

Sounds like people don't make out in high school or Jr. high anymore. Gives lots of practice in setting limits as to how far things will go.

Count Jerkula said...

Lol! Violet thinks hickeys and handjobs are adult activities

Bobby Digital said...

Sorry Donny but nobody is victim blaming just asking pretty fucking obvious logical questions. This pipsqueek Franco mounts her underage friend, then she gets all google eyed when he offers to read her script? What? The underage friend mounting should have been a red flag that maybe I shouldn’t be alone with this guy. But no, she makes out with the guy. What Franco did is disgusting and he should get everything that’s coming to him, but this woman has every opportunity to leave or say no or kick this little shit in the balls. Sounds like she was more concerned with her career and $$. You can call me reprehensible or victim blaming, but the blind doesn’t read that way.

BayAreaGirl said...

You understand that what Katie Ryan described is Quid Pro sexual harassment? We attorneys call that form of sexual harassment "black letter law" because it's settled law that is upheld every time. That means that if there is corroboration that Franco uttered those words, he's legally eff'd.

@Mark, actually, I don't hire people who behave unacceptably. I also fire people who violate co-workers.

Bobby Digital said...

I think this is reprehensible and disgusting behavior by any man. Me personally, I actually want a woman to want me before anything physical ever occurs, then again casual no strings attached sex is something I would never do because it’s so unfulfilling.
With this blind and many others, a lot of us guys are dumbfounded how easily woman get blinded by fame. The blind says she had an underage friend get groped by this loser and she still thought it was ok to make out with him because she was star struck and he would more importantly read her script. It’s such a fine line between victim blaming and asking why would woman make such illogical decisions. She had every opportunity to say no or reject him, but she chose to give the head. Franco is a puny little douche. Just kick him in the balls and he is groping nobody for a while. I personally believe everything bad about Franco, but I also can read a blind and ask, why do they put themselves in these situations, and they only answer I can come up with is either career and money or they are enormous with his fame, but according to you, that is victim blaming. I just don’t get it.

Count Jerkula said...

Bayareagirl: it also makes her a whore.

Count Jerkula said...

If yer dumfounded by the poor decision making of women then yer either 14 or completely oblivious to the world around you.

Maude Labowski said...

+1

Maude Labowski said...

This comments section is where dreams go to die

Count Jerkula said...

@spiney: no, it is not.

Jeweled Skye said...

Women have all the pussy. Remember that and treat that as a source of power. What James Franco, Harvey Weinstein, and all the rest do not have is pussy. Because they are not appealing in and by themselves, they must 'take' it whenever and wherever they can. There have always been women willing to trade on this knowledge and always will be - they're in the bible and they're here today... concubines, prostitutes, courtiers, groupies, etc., I've seen it used successfully and I've seen what happens when there's nothing but regret because it didn't work out. To alleviate the guilt of 'should've known better' it becomes accusatory. Again, the current society does any and everything possible to displace blame in any bad occurrence - an election poll that was wrong, an accident that mars, maims, or kills, a medical procedure that goes wrong. We can not be to blame - this is what keeps lawyers and insurance companies in business. I have more respect for honesty and coming forward honestly than I would or will ever have for trying to place blame on someone else when things don't go your way. Be honest - "I thought it was cool to be associated with, I thought I might get a part, I was a nobody and wanted so badly to be associated with a somebody" . THIS is how it goes in rock circles - nobody is raping anyone, but everyone knows "what it takes" to get backstage and what is expected more often than not if you find yourself there. This is why they now have 'meet and greets' - if you want to say hi, take a picture, you pay a little extra because you are not going to get the chance to 'trade' anything else. There are always - in any industry - going to be young and up and comers that are willing to play the game, but those that arrive fresh faced an unknowing are about 20 years too late - these kids know more than I ever did. There is so much crap - look at Kobe Bryant... who - what woman in her right mind - would go to an NBA players hotel room at 3am for 'an autograph'? Truth is probably more like all was mutual until he told her to leave and she can't stay and it was a one night stand - only THEN did it become assault. Women are crafty and unless it's a case of life threatening, held down, passed out, out and out rape and not just a one night stand that didn't end up in a promotion, a part, a song getting recorded, or another 'date', I - as a female myself - tend to think it was simply a bad decision but the regret is NOT criminal charge worthy. Women need to know and keep in mind the value of what they have and what the others want and get it in writing first!!!!

Jeweled Skye said...

whoops, sorry - and minors are off limits in all cases - but I do think many 15 & 16 year olds know way more than my generation X ass knows today!

lutefisk said...


I am not defending James Franco but how many people have used or had used on them the term "blue balls?" I recall the same guy at college telling me over and over he had blue balls, and me responding each time that he had two hands and could take care of it himself. Even on Seinfeld there was an episode where Elaine was on a date and a guy "took it out." Certain guys are going to try to get whatever they can, but I don't know if that is necessarily assault.

Count Jerkula said...

Lute, if he took your advice pulled it out and starting fapping, would you feel it was assault?

lutefisk said...

Not at all Count. He would have been assaulting himself, not me.

Count Jerkula said...

Correct answer, Lute.

Would you have watched, turned away or skeedaddled?

Alexandria Anna said...

While I'm absolutely standing for all these girls, there is one thing:

You have to set boundaries, and decide if it's professional relation or private. Because if one day girls will be willingly making out with Franco, and the next day report him, there is a chance that people won't take it as seriously. At the end of the day, girls will only hurt themselves

lutefisk said...

Probably would have said "ew" and skeedaddled right out of there. I have been very fortunate to have been shown a lot of respect by anyone I dated. Maybe I am a good judge of character. I never had anyone push me for anything more I wanted to do.

Do Tell said...

"Also, to DO TELL, I must tell you that you are not FOOLING anyone with your comments. You claim to not be victim blaming and then proceed to make Violet the guilty one with every "question" fo yours...You are full of shit, sweaty."

@DumDumPop, Well, you certainly live up to the first two syllables of your name. Everything is just so black and white for you, isn't it? You ought to invest in some reading comprehension classes, because you don't seem capable of understanding anything other than the point you want to push. Once again I did not blame Violet or her VICTIM underage friend for Franco's behavior. I said that it bears some questioning, when she saw what he did to her friend when he tried to push sexual activity on a minor and WOULD NOT TAKE NO for an answer, why she would then gleefully go out with him. This is hardly the same as saying "Well what was she wearing."

But your faux outrage is adorable.

SteelyKnives said...

Bahaha! @Count I love how blunt and abrasive you are! Calling a spade a spade.

I agree with you 100%, as a woman, I'm sick of this kind of behavior. If ya wanna be slutty to get ahead in your job fine, you go girl but you can't call sexual harassment at the same time. You can't have it both ways.

Freckles said...

I am really surprised at comments I have seen today on social media, people defending Franco because he is young and some consider attractive. From the allegations, which I believe, he is a sexual predator. It is a power thing. They are quite adept at recognizing who they can prey on and groom. Men accusing him soon? Of course, it is the power thing that he gets off on. I won't be surprised if there will be some women who were underage at the time he assaulted them, speaking up. Minors are very intimidated so it might take a while for them to lawyer up. Thankfully he will go to "rehab" or whatever,.. and it will prevent hundreds more from having to go through that

TimC said...

Franco is riding high with a strong movie. nothing is gong to happen to him. hollywood looks after success. such a shame.

PhyllisWhitweed said...

She consented. He may have done bad things, I'm pretty sure he's a skeevy perv. But that's not illegal. What she described does not sound like a crime because his only coercion was being frustrated before she consented. It's harassment, for sure. Whipping it out and pushing your head down...fucked up behavior. But she said assault.

rosie riveter said...

+2

LizOz said...

Hollywood power dynamics...I agree that I wouldn’t get in a car with him but - might have been the best shot she thought she had for progressing her career - but that’s irrelevant. He assaulted her. That’s all that matters

rosie riveter said...
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rosie riveter said...

A lot of ugly, simple, dull women and men feel this way SteelyKnives. you keep believing this 👌

Eff Yiew said...

You gotta love how Rosie attacks SteelyKnives simply because SteelyKnives has enough self respect to say she won't suck dick to get job offers.

Gotta love how women support each other until one has a different opinion - then let's abuse her and call her simple, ugly, and dull.

I say it all the time - the "sisterhood" is a joke. It doesn't exist.

A simple fact: Misogyny is when men hate women as much as women hate each other.

Count Jerkula said...

Eff Yiew: Rosie is trash who admitted on here to sexually assaulting college girls after she got them high. If she had a cock, she would be a rapist, but God didnt like her enough to give her a cock, so going by her account of the events, she is a serial sexual abuser.

boredatwork boredatwork said...

Franco is a turd, but she IGNORED the distress of her underage friend, made out with him anyway, went with him anyway, came to see him anyway, sucked his dick anyway, and now I am supposed to feel sorry for her?

I reserve my human compassion to people WHO DO NOT HAVE THE CHOICE.

She made her choice: she sucked his dick.

Eff Yiew said...

@Count - Thanks. I knew something was off with her but I didn't know what. Thanks for the info.

Mad Hominem said...

@Jeweled Skye wrote:

What James Franco, Harvey Weinstein, and all the rest do not have is pussy. Because they are not appealing in and by themselves, they must 'take' it whenever and wherever they can.

I don't think this represents the "balance of power" at all.

I suspect that, because they are in the business, they actually have a surplus of pussy who are trying to set up a meeting. Those women
are all about getting into the business--some by means of sexual persuasion, some by sheer desperation. And there are hoards of women getting off the Greycoach bus every day looking for access to Hollywood parties.

Those men have no incentive to give a women a part just because she "needs work." They all need work.

Mehitable Storm said...

Even if Franco hasn't done anything technically illegal, his behavior is really gross and disgusting. I've read a lot of stories about him and his behavior with teens, even if they are legal, they're barely legal. It's not right for a 40 year old man to be involved with teenagers. What's really amazing about this is that Hollywood would give this douchebag an AWARD the same night they're all wearing black and protesting the treatment of women in Hollywood. The hypocrisy is breath taking.

Donald Cox said...

Yes

Donald Cox said...

So to you Mad Hominem, Al Capone did nothing more than a bit of tax fraud?

Donald Cox said...

This has actually made me feel sick. Think it might bez
Srr

Donald Cox said...

Here’s a list of CDAN victim-blamers I intend to post in as many blinds as possible #TimesUp


Count Jerkula (misogynist and racist)
Do Tell
boredatwork boredatwork
Bobby Digital
Mad Hominem
MovieBuff
Totaji
Eff Yiew
Cail Corashev
Mark
Jeweled Skye
SteelyKnives
Phyllis Whitweed

Let me know if more need to be added

Eve Esquire said...

Wild Thought: James Franco was the one who pulled out his dick - how come we're not shaming him?

Count Jerkula said...

Donald Cox: fuck you, you moron. It is well documented on here, from other times numbskulls have called me a misogynist that i certainly am not. And racist? That just shows yer crazy as well as stupid.

In conclusion, i hope the next dick in yer mouth chokes you to death, fuckface.

Henlo Fren said...

I don’t even know where to begin with this mess. But comment on your last remark. A 15 or 16 year old does not have a fully developed brain. So I don’t care ‘what they know’ the more mature,older person should be held accountable based on supposedly better cognitive thinking. Also, you’re just plain wrong

Count Jerkula said...

Eve, did he pull out his dick before or after he read the birthday card? We dont know what she wrote in the card that may have led him to believe that taking his dick out was an appropriate course of action.

Henlo Fren said...

How about if your source of income depended on an older, heavy set, not attractive woman who blocked the door and proceeded to masturbate? And you knew if you said anything she would have you fired and backballed from your industry.

boredatwork boredatwork said...

OMG Donald Cox, not a list!! I am so scared now!

What's next? Are you going to denounce us?

LMAO Get the fuck out of here, and shove your list up your arse, you self important, pompous little arse lol

Eve Esquire said...

Apply Occam's Dick - is it more likely that Violet wrote in the birthday card anything to convey "Please expose your dick and have me drive into an alley so I can resist giving you oral sex." or Franco whipped his dick unprovoked?

Count Jerkula said...

This isnt about Harvey, but i would laugh, take my cell phone out and start recording. Pre cell phone days, tell her i need to leave. If she still wouldnt let me pass, i'd kick her in the cunt, then fo up stairs and tell everyone what just happened.

Count Jerkula said...

Says they were on a set, where do you get alley from?

Card probably said something like"i cant wait to give you your present" w/ her thinking champagne & srawberry sex at the 4 Seasons, on his dime, while he was thinking "fuck yeah, this chick is gonna give me a birthday bj. She cant wait to do it either. I better get my dick out, anyone around? Good. Here we go."

rosie riveter said...

😂😂 youre an idiot. But I'm flattered you spend so much time thinking of me
😘

Count Jerkula said...

You bragged about getting college girls stoned to get in their panties during yer drug dealing days, rosie pig. Drugged out girls were in no condition to give consent, therefore you are a rapist. If you want to deny it, feel free. I'll find the screencap and link when i get home to laptop.

lutefisk said...

I think part of the problem is that even though James Franco is pushing 40 he appears/acts more like someone in their 20's. He is somewhat cute, funny, and charming. I don't think the average teen/20-something year old female looks at him as someone close to their parent's age. Plenty would jump at the chance to be with him and he is probably used to it at this point. Now that he is older it comes off more skeevy than when he was in his 20's.

rosie riveter said...

I love when you spend all your time and energy on me. It truly is flattering 💟❤

SteelyKnives said...

Hahaha are we resorting to 12 year old behavior now?

SteelyKnives said...

Thank you Eff Yiew! I could not agree with you more everybody is yelling "yeah feminism!! #timesup" until someone disagrees with them. It's beyond annoying the hypocrisy needs to end.

SteelyKnives said...

Donald have at it if that list will make ya feel better but let me get this straight: you guys are so pissed off and want us to have sympathy for this girl? The same girl, who in her own words, says she had a crush on him and liked his attention AFTER he rapes her friend and agrees to meet him at night, alone KNOWING he is a sleezebag rapist, doesn't bolt when the perv whips his dick out, doesn't jerk her hand away when he makes her touch it and "gives in" after he pushed her head down.
Get the fuck out of here! The girl had several opportunities to tell him no and leave but she didn't even try to..

Epileptic Spudmonkey said...

Oh look, how cute: Donald Cox is a white knight beta bitch boy....
F-off, Loser

Eff Yiew said...

Donald Cox has a list! Oh whatever will we do!

Ahahahaha Hey beta cuck boy, that shit works in your world because you're a beta bitch so you get scared easily. But the rest of us? Yeah, not gonna work. Go back to sucking cock, cox! ahahahaah

By the way Donald, two things - One, feminists won't fuck you for being a white knight
Two - Women are starting to wake up to the fact that male feminists like yourself are actually sexual predators. You guys are getting yourself caught too often these days. Have fun until your time is up, sexual predator.

lucy said...

this was a decent read, appreciated the logical contributions

YeahYouKnowThatsRight said...

I realize reality is in short supply in Hollywood but these bizarre attempts to redefine sexual assault are ridiculous. Sexual assault is NOT having sex in exchange for something you value. That's called prostitution. I wish people would learn the difference.

Count Jerkula said...

YYKTR: it is just like the porn industry, once the cash is gone and all that is left is the shame, the crazies try to rescind consent & say they were "forced" as a way to attempt to cope with the reality of being a whore who performed vile acts for profit.

Salome said...

There's a special place in hell for you victim blaming pieces of shit.
And the use of the words "beta cuck" indicate that you can't hardly get your dick hard and are a loser who has to pay for sex. Yes, I have firsthand knowledge. All the money in the world won't buy you a personality or a woman who actually likes you.

Count Jerkula said...

Salome: tell us about when you tried to fuck Eff Yiew and he couldnt get it hard. Were drugs involved?

BB said...

Seriously..go read her twitter and see what she's posted..it's disturbing..and not about Franco..but her!

RMuse said...

The group think, cultural marxism tactics are getting old. Who gives a rats behind if you create a list in an attempt to shut down the conversation. Identifying poor choices is about gathering useful information. Women need to be more introspective regarding their choices so that they can make smarter ones in the future. Speaking as a woman, women need to get a grip on this conversation and take ownership of the poor choices they make along the way precisely so that some good can come out of their experience.

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