Tuesday, January 30, 2018

Mark Salling Has Died



Mark Salling, the former Glee star who pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography, died Tuesday. He was 35.

In October, Salling pleaded guilty to child pornography charges, avoiding what could have been a 20-year sentence and a lifetime of supervised parole. His sentencing was scheduled for March 7th. Salling was expected to serve between four and seven years in jail, register as a sex offender and pay $50,000 to each victim who submitted a restitution request.

122 comments:

Irish Dre said...

Rough Justice.

Joshua said...

How many victims were there? It seems if he was a CP collector, it would be tough to trace many of them. Glad there's some restitution though.

Anthony Wilfred Fragglefrock said...

I thought he had been abused. Hollywood is a cesspit.

Hmax17 said...

Noticed he out died, not committed suicide

Boldblonde said...

He most likely didn't commit suicide. We (here) all know that.

Joshua said...

Yes, Boldblonde, there are very few adherents to Occam's Razor on these message-boards.

Beth said...

The news is now saying suicide ("suicide"?).

filmfanb said...

@Boldblonde That was my first thought. He was due for sentencing. He was probably willing to talk for a better sentencing. CDAN has really made me look at different avenues when it comes to Hollywood suicide.

Brayson87 said...

Someone is tying up loose ends.

Dallas Alice said...

Literally.

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Joshua said...

Film, he had already plead guilty. But don't let facts get in the way of your tinfoil.

Dallas Alice said...

He was awaiting sentencing.

R Bee said...

I do wonder if he may have had help in going.

Kimberly Davis said...

RIP I do wonder if he was also abused as a child. If guilt killed him, he doesn't fit the pedo profile. I hope he left a note where he named names.

Jean Grey said...

Bold blonde.. I agree... He probably knew of others and was going to let everyone know about it...

Sd Auntie said...

hope the crooked La. county sheiffs do not conceal any letters or videos outing his acvomplices. or worse Ray Donovan type clearing out his pad. so he took pictures of kis. vile, sick guy. what is wrong with these men?

timebob said...

He had tried to kill himself once before. Cowards like this are never remorseful for their crimes only they got caught and can't do the time. He would of made some good bitch bait in prison.

Suicide, illuminati, The House, The Church, IDGAF, good riddance.

Alexandria Anna said...

I saw the link that Enty posted on Twitter, and TMZ says "Death of APPARENT suicide", they highlighted the fact it was suicide lol.

asb said...

found hanging from a tree at a park by his house...

Dallas Alice said...

Adjacent to a little league baseball field.

Spike Ghost said...

we poppin the biggest bottles!

Brayson87 said...

Jesus, they hanged him from a tree like Judas.

He would have gotten protective custody in jail/prison due to being a celebrity, still wouldn't have been a cakewalk though.

Dallas Alice said...

Pedophiles don’t deserve to live. If only that sick fuck Nassar had done the world a favor and offed himself too...

Dallas Alice said...

The walls are closing in. They can’t kill all their victims/accomplices, no matter how hard they try.

ladybugmo1 said...

Why do you think he doesn’t fit the profile? What is the profile?

Dallas Alice said...

I worked with a well-respected physician side-by-side for years. Never would have suspected he was also downloading child porn. There is no set profile. There may be red flags, but it’s not like these twisted bastards go around shouting it from the rooftops.

Dallas Alice said...

And, no, he wasn’t a pediatrician.

Krab said...

Enty always uses "has died" in posts about deaths.

Good riddance, bad rubbish etc.

CharRicho said...

There were kids as young as 3 on the videos in his possession. I'm trying to feel bad about this but, yah I got nothing. 🤷

Dallas Alice said...

I feel bad, so so bad, for those poor babies and I feel bad for his parents, but that POS is exactly where he needs to be.

Guesser said...

There is no way he didn't offer up names,his sentence was fairly light compared to what he was originally charged with. I hope they got them.

Krab said...

If Mark Salling was going to "name names" for a plea deal and was killed by the mighty pedo ring, it would have happened already. He's already pled guilty. You don't make a plea deal AFTER you've pled. That's not how it works. But don't let simple facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.

OR he just decided he didn't want to go to jail, have a rough time there and be disgraced and broke for the rest of his life. Enjoy hell, Mark!

Dallas Alice said...

Me too, Guesser.

346NYC said...

Apparently, there's a rash of suicides where people drive to a local park to hang themselves lately?
That young porn star, can't think of her name, was found hanging from a tree in a park near her house.
Coincidence? I think not.

Sounds like some ritual sacrifice.

Jenko said...

First thing I thought was ‘did he really commit suicide??’

Brayson87 said...

They could have been afraid that Salling wouldn't be able to hold up in jail and would start saying anything to get his sentence commuted. Some people, you just take away their smartphones for an hour and they break.

Dena said...

The Daily Mail's headline is Child Porn Star Dead ...yikes.

Seachica said...

Thank you for bringing common sense into this @Krab. Child porn possessors don't have an easy time in prison. And they don't have an easy time when they get released from prison afterward. Salling probably took the cowards way out.

AJ said...

It’s always sad when you find out someone who seems likable is actually a POS. To hear about his collection of photos was disgusting and shocking. I don’t think he could take the shame anymore and took the chicken shit way out. Normally I wouldn’t say that about suicide. Most times you have no understanding of what it’s like to be in that black hole but he was about to be sentenced and jailed. He just couldn’t face it.

Brayson87 said...

People have got to stop hanging out at the park.

April said...

🙌🏻

Nadine D said...

How did the police find out he had child porn on his computer?

Dallas Alice said...

Ex-girlfriend told them

Joshua said...

How far-removed or close is someone like this guy to the actual producers of the pornography? Like, @Dallas, was the creep you knew just a collector or was he actually producing?

Dallas Alice said...

I have a family member who has approached crime and going to jail like it’s his damn job. Before he ended up back in jail for,what is hopefully forever (or gets the death penalty), he told me HORRIBLE stories about what prisoners do to child predators. Whether in protective custody or not, he’d be a target until he died or was killed. They find him and administer jail justice.

Dallas Alice said...

Joshua, he was a collector. I would have never, ever, EVER had pegged him as a pedophile.

Halloweenie said...

I really want pedos killing themselves to become a craze that sweeps the nation. One suicide a day would be fab. Just one after the other, hang themselves, shot themselves, take pills. Whatever it takes. Get to work demons. No one will miss you. And for pedo apologists who say he was abused as a child, what about the millions of people who were abused physically, sexually or emotionally as kids who don't perpetrate the same crimes on their own kids? Or any other kids? I'm so tired of pedo apologists. PROTECT KIDS.

Dallas Alice said...

He went to federal prison, was stripped of his MD and then sent back to his home country. My colleagues and I were shocked.

Dallas Alice said...

Amen, Halloweenie

AngryLiberalKTS. said...

Tin foil helmet crew is out in force!.

Dallas Alice said...

Apparently, so is the child porn advocate brigade. Fuck off.

Melissa said...

Re: Joshua's statement about restitution. The FBI keeps a database linking child porn to known victims. Part of this is because they have ongoing efforts to find and rescue children who are being exploited in child porn, and part is to allow a central way to get restitution to the victims. Federal child porn sentences all include victim restitution and the database allows the FBI to identify who the victims are.

Some of the victims have millions of dollars owed to them because they have videos that have been found so often on computers. However, they typically won't see any money since the offenders rarely have assets to pay them off.

I internet at DOJ for a semester working with prosecution of child predators. It is nasty stuff.

nonyabusiness said...

good riddance

Nonya Bidness said...

I hope to God that he only got a plea deal by naming anyone who supplied him pics, so that there will be fewer purveyors out there.

As much as I don't doubt that there is widespread child sex abuse and trafficking in Hwood, I also think its very likely that he'd rather die than go to prison.

Nonya Bidness said...

Omg, I swear I didn't copy your name, sorry.

Pilot Gal said...

Canadian billionaire Barry Sherman and his wife, Honey, were also found hanged. Isn't that interesting? Sounds like an MO to me.

Surrender Dorothy said...

Ugh thank you @timebob! People seem to have forgotten that in addition to being into kids he was also a rapist and assaulter! Total coward, and the type of person that makes me wish I believed in hell.

I was just on eNews' Instagram post about this and the overwhelming majority of comments were just sad faces and RIPs...I had to bite my commenting tongue so hard! Gtfoh!

Krab said...

Pedophiles killing themselves is what a friend of mine calls "a problem that solves itself." This way, we taxpayers don't have to pay to keep these people in jail and hopefully he left enough of an estate to pay some restitution, too.

cheesey.burrito.whore said...

Out on bond before sentencing he would have been wearing an ankle monitor and on home confinement. Reports are saying he was dead long before he was found. The alarm on his monitor would have/should have gone off as soon as he walked 10 feet out of his front door. ALSO, for the amount of CP he had, he was indicted on two counts, which for the Feds is a mandatory 10 years min/20 years max. The plea deal that was presented would have brought his sentence at a Low FCI to 4-7 years. Those with 1 count of receiving/possessing is a minimum of 5 years enjoying the hospitality of the Federal government. There is NO WAY he would have gotten a plea down below the a lesser count unless he had been an informant of some sort. That's how it works with the Feds. He had a good attorney that would have been working with a prison consultant so he would have known what to expect in prison and would have been sentenced to self-surrender to a facility that housed other "offenders". He would have been FINE in prison. Don't ask me how I know this, but, FYI, just things that make you go HMMMMMM...

Easy D said...

The business of Child Pornography is abhorrent, but I do have a problem with equating the monsters who create and sell it with people who may have watched it.

The latter may be sad, f-cked up people---or normal people clicking a link and downloading something in the same manner that a person bored of classic rock might download a country album on a whim.

In a world where, let's face it, millions of people regularly watch porn, and pushing a button can deliver some, its inevitable that people might be curious about something extreme and make an awful judgement call.

I wouldn't mind the death penalty for child abusers and pornographers, but Im not sure I want to destroy the lives of consumers.

Many of us are here, like it or not, for salacious stories of wrongdoing from the famous. Are we guilty of voyeurism in a sense? What should the penalty be for our unsavory curiosity?


petty white said...

ccornell and cb were also "hanging suicides." you can not tell me with as many easily accessible pills there are to be found in the usa, that hanging was the preferred method of "suicide" for all of these famous people. seems like such a grotesque way to take yourself out...

Incurably Curious said...

This guy was about to go to jail for child pornography. He had already pled, so probably had already ratted anyone out that he could. After firearms, hanging is the most common method of suicide is the US. While conspiracies are fun, it's much more likely that a shitty human got caught doing shitty thing, couldn't stomach the idea of prison, and took the easy way out.

Now, the double murder of the Canadian couple... That's a case where many conspiracy theories wouldn't sound too crazy. Barry and Honey's deaths bear the hallmarks of a professional hit, even though it took the police like two months to announce it wasn't in fact a murder-suicide instigated by the husband. There are so many potential suspects/motives it's like a damn Agatha Christie novel.

Halloweenie said...

He plead guilty. Over 50,000 images downloaded. Videos, everything. Some babies as young as 3 years old. I'd a leftist Bernie loving liberal but for fucks sake we , as a society ,need to draw a line in the sand and we need to do it now before society decomposes further into degradation and filth. Protect children. Protect their innocence. We are hearing from our 8 year old that his friends are getting cell phones!!! He's already asking for one!!At 8 , 9, 10 years old. What are these children viewing on their cellphones in their rooms late at night? When are we going to wake up and draw a line in the sand? This evil is only going to grow as we apologize for our protective feelings and continue to become more and more desensitized? Our kids deserve better. They deserve our steady and unwavering protection . What kinda world are we heading towards????

ElleElle said...

I have a feeling John Wick is based on some sort of Hollywood reality.

OffWithTheirHeads said...

They killed him because they knew he would flip. They'll kill anyone and everyone to protect themselves. They would murder every last one of us, gleefully, and yet you people still give them money and attention.

I'm not shedding a tear over this monstrosity finally burning in hell, but there are far worse than him out there and they are laughing at us right now. They know they're beyond the law.

auntliddy said...

I actually did read he comitted suicide and if so, i cant really blame him. You never get rid of those urges, he wld always be registered sex offender and a social pariah for rest of his life.

trufflepig said...

A few month ago a huge European kiddie porn website was busted. The people running the page were located in my home country, so it was all over the media here. I read several articles at the time that explained how these communities work. Apparently, to be allowed 'entrance', you're usually required to provide 'material' of your own. Which is one of the many reasons why it's hard for investigators to infiltrate these communities (the network they busted was one of few exceptions, apparently - users could register without uploading pics or videos).

Users often upload pictures or videos of themselves abusing their OWN children (or stepchildren, nieces, nephews...). What also seems to happen a lot is that such websites are used as 'sharing platforms' for children! One article I read described cases where two fathers had arranged meetings with each other so one could rape the other's child (and videotape it, of course)!

My point is... there's a high chance for a consumer of child porn to be actively involved in producing that stuff. In any case, consuming child porn supports a system that's sick and twisted beyond belief.

I feel sorry for people who have such tendencies/feelings towards children and try to fight them. But acting on those feelings, in whatever way, should be considered inexcusable. Consuming child porn is not considered a trivial offense for a reason.

PS: sorry if my English is a bit 'idiosyncratic', I'm not a native speaker.

Easy D said...

Don't mean to trivialize any abuse of children.

Disgusting.

Merits death penalty.

But does nobody see any potential problems with making possession/consumption of media a serious crime?

Awful slippery slope.

What about video of a battle where people are killed? Of people doing drugs?

What about copies of Nabokov's Lolita?

Go after the actual criminals!


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Sign Name Below said...

@EasyD
This is a bad take, and a bad takeaway. It's dumb as hell. Are you suggesting that the kids in the "media" are not victims? That CP is a victimless crime?

Again, this is dumb as hell

I'll have a Martini, straight up, or lying down. Makes no matter. said...

He had downloaded files of infants to 6yo children. I won't go into details here and included a link below if you want to read through it as it's a tough read. But, at least you'll now the facts. He was also charged with distributing, which can/is includes downloading onto a cell phone/laptop and showing it to someone. (Which is what he did, and she is who turned him in.) He had labeled the files with the childs name and how old they were, which designated him on another level of sex offender.
Most all of the pages are the typical legal verbiage so if you skip down to page 11, that's where his case is laid out via LE.
https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/mark-salling-plea-deal-2017-wm.pdf

mannyv said...

The feds picked off a lot of people when they took over the pedo server a few years ago. Jared was one of them, and this guy. Those two were the only high-profile perps. What did the FBI do with all the other high-profile perps they found? I'm assuming you need an invite to get to these sorts of things. Where's the trail?

Land Manatee said...

👏🏻 +1000

GoogleSleuth said...

Okay, I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next person, but I call bullshit on this one. He tried to kill himself in August - he was spotted with bandages over his wrists. Even though he likely would have been fine in prison (housed with similar offenders as someone already pointed out), I’m sure he viewed going as the end of the world. No more career, no more Hollywood high life. He would have been stamped with that “sex offender” label for the rest of his life. And the plea deal had already been made, so any names would have already come out. The negotiation period had come and gone.

Sometimes people just need to see things for what they are. 🤷‍♀️

Urban Rosebud said...

Grayson. Hiram Abif & the rules of engagement. Sigh. He knew what they were when he signed on...no matter, he was still someones son.

Cail Corishev said...

He could have named names to get a plea deal, and still been killed to keep him from being able to testify against those names later. A written statement doesn't have nearly the effect in court without the witness there to attest to it. And if the prosecution did present his statement, the defense could point out that it's the statement of a man who might not have been in his right mind, looming suicide and all. In short, there can still be plenty of incentive to kill a witness regardless of whether he's already named names.

Or he did commit suicide out of shame, remorse, or plain old mental illness. It does happen.

Urban Rosebud said...

I agree with you Halloweenie. Kids involved, all bets should be off. Based on this site 90% of Hollywood would be obliterated after the first year of your experiment...

Chenin Blanc said...

The plea agreement was filed on 10_3_17. Is this 'normal' to let an admitted pedophile not to start serving his sentence immediately?

cheesey.burrito.whore said...

Chenin Blanc...for Federal charges, yes, unless he was deemed a flight risk. I don't know about state charges, but he was under Federal indictment only. Even after sentencing it would still be another 6 months before he had to self-surrender at a Low FCI. Until that time he'd still be under house arrest with an ankle monitor.

Maude Labowski said...

There are literally Supreme Court cases that answer all of your questions. Google that shit.

Owlette said...

I’m not sure why I read that, but as a mother of 2 girls, I felt compelled for some reason. Now I am going to go vomit and never let my children leave my sight until they are 30.

TwoDots said...

Jesus Christ, I just read that wordrpress link. Tough reading indeed.

Raging Bunnies said...

Thank you, @ladtbugmo1.

Raging Bunnies said...

Remorse.
Never ran across a sex offender feeling remorse for the victim as they are incapable of empathy.
Ergo the wake of destruction they leave behind.

MovieBuff said...

I continue to agree with myself.

Humans sit in a self appointed judgement seat condemning some forgiving others.

This guy had a problem that is shameful. He exposed his secret to a person who recognized the disgust and turned him over. But look

The arresting officer
The judge
The members of the jury

These are people who may very well secretly harbor the same shamefully perverse inclinations.

Each one hides their shame whatever it might be but if your shame were ever brought into a public square how would you hold up?

It’s easy to judge another while your shame is still hidden.

There was a dude who said let he who has no fault throw the first stone.

There is no human alive without a skeleton in the closet.

This guy did a thing that was 100% wrong but it was not an unforgivable thing.

Forgiveness does not exempt anyone from the consequences of their wrongful acts. He deserved the penalty but he let the weight of his shame consume him.

The mind is POWERFUL and the MOST deceitful.

Man will tell you to kill yourself but I don’t believe a thing man has to say. He’s a documented liar.

Listen if you are doing things that are morally wrong STOP. Be Thankful you weren’t caught up and keep living. get a hobby like knitting or something. Get your mind together. Get therapy. Do whatever you need to do to keep yourself clean. There is a beast inside everyone of us.

Stop judging folk. Like all your i’s are dotted and all your t’s are crossed.

cheesey.burrito.whore said...

AMEN!

MovieBuff said...

As long as lips, teeth, and tongue move together people are gonna have smack to talk about someone else.

I’ll bet someone on here condemning the pedophile steps out on their spouse regularly.

I know I’m wrong but you’re more wrong. 🤔

cheesey.burrito.whore said...

Yup. We ALL have our little secrets that we don't want exposed. And we certainly don't want anyone judging us for them, especially since at some point the majority of us will judge ourselves more harshly than anyone else ever could.

Guesser said...

After understanding how severe the original charges were,I don't doubt he gave up a lot of names,and maybe this is the beginning of the end of a huge pedo ring,hopefully sooner than later. And do not forget,the Las Vegas shooter is connected to child porn.

Sd Auntie said...

well im sure my sins pale in comparison to 50,000 pictures of kids!!! if you sexualize kids, you are SCUM. even hard core criminals despise these dirt bags. god hrlp humanity

Sd Auntie said...

god help humanity

Dallas Alice said...

When you sexualize TODDLERS all bets are off, movie buff. You can woe is me the human condition all damn day, but that doesn’t give him license to do it. Unfortunately, Mark Salling didn’t take up knitting. He is, was, and will always be a pedophile.

Dallas Alice said...

And all my i’s are dotted and every t is crossed. I’d be happy to knit you a bag of dicks to choke on.

boredatwork boredatwork said...

I think as a mother and non-pedophile I am in a position to judge people such as this one.
And nobody is going to tell me otherwise.

I'm not throwing a party and popping champagne at this guy's death, but I also don't give a shit whether he offed himself or was 'suicided'.

I would also like to point out that the same people spitting at this pedo, seem to be very (extremely in some cases!) content with an entire religion that celebrates pedophilia. That legalises marriage between girls as young as 8 to middle aged men (or age ZERO, like in Bangladesh - how's that for shithole of a country?), that has an actual term named 'dancing boys', because it's such a cultural commonality, and that sees nothing wrong with their prophet, a man in his mid 30s who married a girl aged 6, on the contrary: he's depict as the perfect human being. And who says otherwise is a nazi/racist/etc.

I judge this hypocrisy too, I judge it hard, especially because it enables and facilitate pedophilia on a much larger scale, than the former. It appeases the worst of humanity.
If you're really against sexual abuse of children, you should be against ALL of it.

So yeah. J'accuse.

Court b said...

If you think he didn't fit the "pedo profile" and he "looked safe" you must live under a rock. Anyone can be a pedo, anyone, that's how pedos get away with it, they pick their targets, get parents to trust them. Nobody wants to believe their father, brother, daughter, son, neighbor, husband, best friend, grandpa, sister, priest, would rape, or molest someone. But somebody is doing it?!?! It's some bodies kid molesting people!?!?!!!

Court b said...

Have to agree.

Court b said...

The only profile I can come up with is, they are willing to gamble everything for a sick urge. Then again, maybe they like the fear of getting caught too. Sick fucks.

Lisa Hunt said...

I'm surprised after the first suicide attempt the judge/court didn't remand him. Sort of like being a flight risk..

Lisa Hunt said...

Thanks to all of Enty's Hollywood pedophile ring blinds, conspiracy theorists are having a field day with CDAN.

The conspiracy sub on Reddit is filled with CDAN blinds, hence the new wave of "tinfoil hats" here.

I love a good conspiracy theory, I love reading about conspiracies, but the people who spend all their time immersing themselves in conspiracies seem righteous and paranoid. If you don't agree with them you're either a shill, a troll, or something opposition- I can't remember the term.

Hoen said...

Wtf kinda twisted delusional fucked up logic is this? Without the nasty motherfuckers watching this shit there is no market, basic economics. Aside from that even curiosity of kiddie porn is twisted and gross. See a shrink, don't download the shit.

AJ said...

MovieBuff I’m sure you are a virgin saint full of pure virtue but you need to realize that people have a hard time with the abuse of small innocent children. I myself am a survivor of childhood sexual abuse. It took everything I had in me to get past what happened to me and forgive my abuser bc if I didn’t, it would have destroyed me. My only way of getting better was by not letting them win and ruining my life by self medicating myself. I can judge all I want bc despite him never touching a child, he fed the culture that leads to the abuse of children. I can sympathize for his death but that doesn’t mean I can look past his choices.

Jojo said...

SuiciDED!!! It's the easiest way to make this go away without it all coming out in the media and all the other people that are connected to the Mecca of pedophilia that IS Hollywood

Jojo said...

Filming of The Children of the Corn began 1994 (he would have been 12) and was most likely abused.

Jojo said...

Children of the corn based on the Stephen King novel Which reminds me does anyone remember the Stephen King "child orgy" chapter in the book IT. Yes friends he's a sicko! The only way to defeat the clown was by all the boys having sex with the 11 year old girl. Look it up, before you assume this not 100% true. There's even a video of Stephen King defending the entire premise of this.

Xpensive Hobutt said...

GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD RUBBISH

AngryLiberalKTS. said...

Dallas alice an actual police officer?. What the fuck are you gonna do?. Get your tinfoil helmet and start taking your meds again. Pedo's need punishment not your hillbilly justice. So you kindly fuck off bot.

Easy D said...

Brooke Shields was in Playboy at age 10.

Should we have locked up everybody that bought a copy?

Now, if you say lock up Hugh Hefner, the photographer, and Mrs Shields, I could support that.

But I don't like laws that we all know punish ordinary people while the billionaire producers aren't even touched.

It's like the Feds cracking down on pot smokers while Deep State lets Sinaloa sell drugs in America.

Court b said...

It's the suicide forest in Japan, it's been in the news alot, cause some dumb YouTuber posted a video of a body, then had to appologize because celebrities cursed him out.

Christine 16 said...

Do you consider 2 times "a rash of" suicide by hanging in parks, or are there more examples?

Christine 16 said...

Yikes, Easy D... it's hard to believe that someone would actually feel that way- well except maybe someone who has just checked out some kiddie porn "on a whim" themself & is trying to rationalize it!?! Getting bored of typical porn & deciding to check out something more foreign to them or kinkier, like bondage or even scat or something, is a million times different than watching kiddie porn. And it's not like it's something that just pops up in a search engine as a suggestion, or even in a pop up or banner ad on a porn site for that matter. To find child pornography, one would need to really go looking for it, I'd imagine. No one does that on a whim, out of curiosity, or just to spice things up. NO ONE!

!!!Looking at child porn is a totally intentional act that someone would only do if they were turned on by the thought of seeing children in a porno. Period. Exclamation point!!!

Furthermore, those children are abused & recorded for the pleasure of- and to get money from- the people who watch it. While there are pervs who make it for personal use, it's a known fact that pedos share those videos with each other. Then there are people who aren't even into kids themselves, making videos for the sole purpose of making money off of them. Buy and demand. If people weren't there to pay for/view the vids, there very likely wouldn't be so much of it made and circulated. So YES, even "just" watching it makes them just as big of a monster and you CAN equate them with the pornographers & abusers!!!! They are a direct cause of children being victimized. The fact that you would try to minimize something so disturbing & despicable... well, that is disturbing in itself, to be frank. And trying to compare it at all to reading a gossip site is just delusional. It's so farfetched & seems like, again, a way for you to minimize the act of watching kiddie porn- by comparing it to something so mundane. The 2 things are in no way similar! If you have watched those kind of videos (which it kinda seems like) PLEASE don't ever do it again, and maybe seek some kind of counseling as well.

PS: Sorry for the ranting, fellow readers. That comment just blew my mind though. I still find it hard to believe someone even thinks that way. Wow.

Christine 16 said...

Easy D, again, you're comparing apples to artichokes. Watching child porn turns you into a direct link in the chain... the videos are made FOR the viewer so that means the children are being abused FOR the viewer. And every time they watch a video, that child's abuse is being seen again & their body is being seen again by another sick adult and they're basically being victimized & violated all over again- even if they're not physically in the room with the viewer. You can compare it to whatever you'd like but it's just not the same thing!


It really bothers me that you're so intent on trying to minimize the role of someone who watches child pornography & that you keep trying to compare it to things that aren't wrong at all. You're comparing something that's hideous & horrendously harmful to innocent, unwilling, defenseless children and trying to equate it to things that aren't harmful to anyone &, at the very most, maybe a small amount of people might possibly find distasteful. There is no comparison, and certainly not in the examples you've given! It really seems like YOU have viewed this type of video yourself & that you're trying to rationalize & minimize the act of "just watching" in order to make yourself feel better- to feel like maybe you didn't do something totally horrible.

Easy D said...
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Easy D said...

By the way, isn't "Christine 16" a morally problematic song by those "Knights in Satan's Service", headed by the possible "Monster Icon" himself?

I always found KISS creepy and tacky myself. And if you read their lyrics, you get a sense of what they might be up to after hours. So are their fans morally complicit in their perversions? Should they be liable for subsidizing those obvious deviants?

If you think that a quarter of what is printed in CDAN is true, then most of us have been putting dollars into the pockets of criminals, um, "Glee-fully".

Again, I agree 10000 percent with your sentiments about that awful porn. But the idea that low chain consumers are jailed while the exploiters and creators are protected by the police and celebrated by the populace strikes me as sad.

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Christine 16 said...

A written statement would have zero effect in court... cuz if the person who wrote it is dead, they can't be cross examined by the defense. That means there's basically zero chance it would even be allowed as evidence.

Christine 16 said...

Having "inclinations" and acting on those inclinations are not the same. His inclinations were not made public- his actions were! Big difference. Yeah, a lot of people have something they're ashamed of but this is a whole other level.

I don't think a pedophile is to blame for being attracted to kids, and it's a shitty burden they were saddled with. But even if they can't control who turns them on, they CAN control their actions & they don't HAVE TO act on those urges. It's not that important to get your rocks off, ffs. To contribute to so much pain of so many kids just so u can have something to jerk off to!?!? Unbelievably selfish!! And imo, unforgivable. The guy was a selfish, disgusting asshole and the world is better off without him! What he did IS unforgivable & I hope no one does forgive him, cuz he doesn't deserve it.

Christine 16 said...

Yes,you ARE wrong. Cheating on ur spouse is in NO way even in the same ballpark as molesting children, watching videos of children being molested, etc. Idk why commenters on here keep comparing this to everything under the sun that it is NOT comparable to. It's ridiculous. Even more absurd is people defending this sick piece of crap. I have never hurt a child so, yes, I will throw all the stones I want.

Christine 16 said...

Absolutely, Dallas Alice. What is it with people on here defending this scumbag??

Christine 16 said...

Also, I highly doubt "the weight of his shame consumed him". More like he didn't wanna sit in a jail cell for the next decade and knew that his life was basically screwed from that point on. You give this guy way too much credit, MovieBuff!

Christine 16 said...

I wouldn't put it past him that he did actually touch a child... or at the very least, was planning to. Because apparently he had a manual on his computer that gave instructions on how to, as a grown man, vaginally and anally penetrate a child between the ages of like 3 to 6. Hopefully he was stopped before he followed those instructions.

PS- so glad you survived and thrived!

Christine 16 said...

Each of your posts get more ridiculous as they go. Again, you are making comparisons where there aren't any to be made. Brooke Shields didn't have a grown man's dick in her mouth. It's not the same, nothing you have said or will say is the same. At this point, I'm pretty sure you're into the same things that this dead creep was. Please get help!! The wires in your brain obviously aren't connecting properly.

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