Wednesday, February 21, 2018

Billy Graham Has Died



Evangelist Billy Graham -- a confidant to presidents, a guiding light to generations of American evangelicals and a globe-trotting preacher who converted millions to Christianity has died. He was 99.

80 comments:

totaji said...

Good Riddance!

J Smith said...

Amen.

MichiganMama59 said...

A truly decent human being who did nothing but help others.

Goddess said...

RIP. A moderating voice during times of political division.

Scotty B said...

Can't wait for the Blinds to leak out! Another white supremacist pretending to be a Christian who loves others. Millionaire preacher, ha, what a sinner!

Very Mad B said...

Christopher Hitchens said this about an equally unctuous Falwell: "If you gave Falwell an enema he could be buried in a matchbox." Graham was a racist bastard huckster who got rich selling the panacea of a fairy tale to a bunch of frightened, ignorant, subjugated weaklings. He wouldn't deserve the wood his corpse should be lowered into.

Normal. Yes indeed. said...

Jesus H Christ. Let the dead rest. What the fuck is wrong with you people and no that’s not racist you vacuous toffee headed motherfuckers.

Scotty B said...

You people? Who do you mean, you people? Toffee headed? Son, I think you need to go see Black Panther every day this week. Try the first evening screening, it's less crowded.

Very Mad B said...

Dead don't rest. Dead is dead. And no evil man should be allowed any damned reverence.

Lyla said...

{shrugs} who cares

AngryLiberalKTS. said...

Fuck off

txredhd said...

Good

Sd Auntie said...

Used to like him until he was noted for being a racist. That's normal for that age group. Cant stand his son. Tell Black Jesus Hello Mr Graham. RIP old soul

totaji said...

He was a figure head for possibly one of the worst movements in American history: the Christian Right.

nicksauntie said...

Money hungry fame whore who ripped off millions....

Sd Auntie said...

Us People...say phoney on you Normal

Andrew said...

Christopher Hitchens was a drunk and a Communist. Who gives a fuck.

Justin said...

@Scotty B - Billy Graham never made the big money that other tv preachers make. IIRC he capped his salary at 70K or something around there, and any profit he made above that went to charity. You may disagree with his views, but there's no need to besmirch the man with falsehoods. He was someone who practiced what he preached and tried to be a force of good in the world.

John Cantor said...

Billy Graham and Cliff Richard

"We know that Billy Graham is serviced by ... sex slaves."

http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2014/08/billy-graham-and-cliff-richard.html

Wake up, from your slumber slumber, wake up... Hahahahahaha.....

ASolo

Scotty B said...

Billy Graham net worth: over 25 Million.

Easier for a camel through the eye of a needle than--yeah, you know the rest. This Billy Graham right now:

"Uh, why is it so hot in heaven? Can we turn down the thermostat?"

Then he hears a voice:

"I'm sorry, Billy Millionaire. Where is it that you think you are?" followed by all our laughter.

NuGa Peach said...

How sad, unfortunate and telling that we have fallen so far down the civilized society ladder, that we can't even let a man pass without throwing out nasty accusations and comments. Whether you like him or not, his family, friends and millions of followers are grieving his loss.

CJ said...

Items like this are like a truth serum that exposes the seething hate inside some of the posters here.

By the standards of evangelists, he was an honorable man. RIP.

B said...

I can't look past his homophobia

Aunty said...

Moldering into compost.

Mark said...

ScottyB, are whites allowed to see it yet? Asking for Normal, because I don't intend to see it until it's on TCM.

.robert said...

This is so funny. The people talking crap about Graham are the same ones who praised Castro when he died.

Xpensive Hobutt said...

Roast in hell, Billy Graham, pedophile cocksucker,

Xpensive Hobutt said...

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-o5JsWZr2NGU/Wo2E4pEnMzI/AAAAAAADmlc/wVe8gY0lfgUPJZXTvR_rdG02G-ZhqgxHACLcBGAs/s1600/bg.jpg

Scotty B said...

You should totally see Black Panther. It's a good film. Very inspiring for all people.

And Racist Crackers NEED to see this film. Not saying you are one, but asking about wypipo sounds like you are one.

nicksauntie said...

If you want to cry over the man, go for it. Don't take those that aren't very sad to task over it. You sound like sanctimonious assholes.

plot said...

"Christopher Hitchens was a drunk and a Communist."

And fucking hilarious...which is why he still resonates.

Calling Mother Teresa the Ghoul of Calcutta was shocking and hilarious.

XRaySpex000 said...

GOOD RIDDANCE.

plot said...

"we can't even let a man pass without throwing out nasty accusations and comments"

You are taking the comments on one little site as the whole We of society?

That's a little extreme.

NuGa Peach said...

@Plot Actually I'm not. It's not just this site, it is every where. We can't even agree to disagree anymore without the inevitable shouts of you're a racist, bigot, homophobe, etc... No such thing as healthy debate and respect for differing opinions. I mean seriously, what ever happened to live and let live.

plot said...

I ignore a lot of that shit, so honestly I wouldn't know.

Labels to me aren't important. Graham's shocking conversations on tape, with Richard Nixon, are.

SteveD said...

"The Church" got to him. He knew too much.

DaToneBone said...

The internet has truth and false about everything. A clusterfuck of information that really can't be organized nor cleaned up. I read somewhere that he was really a Freemason. I don't know if that is true. I'm here to see if evil gets revealed from time to time. I won't care what team they are on.

Fundie Nutjob said...

The rapture cometh. Be afraid,sodomites and abortionists.

Low Key said...

"By the standards of evangelists, he was an honorable man."

Well, that kinda says it all, yeah?

nicksauntie said...

Yes, pretty low bar

longtimereader said...

Andrew and plot - hitchens was a cowardly, misogynist, racist, warmonger without conscience. One of the reasons i no longer consider myself an atheist because i don't want to be associated with odious creeps like sam harris. RIP billy, you gave hope to millions of regular people.

LJ said...

Fiona Barnett on Billy Grahamm:

"I was trafficked to the USA, to Bohemian Grove where I was drugged & raped by the Rev BILLY GRAHAM – Richard Nixon’s pal, in a pink bubble room. I was also made to dress up like a teddy bear and play hide, seek & rape. I also witnessed the ritual murder of a person by politicians dressed up in robes."

https://fionabarnett.org/abuse-drawings/

plot said...

"i no longer consider myself an atheist"

No, you never did. That's a lie.

" RIP billy, you gave hope to millions of regular people."

While building as estate of tens of millions.

John Cantor said...

BG is a HUGE part of the New World Order, his ministry took off in 1954, one year after the OSS was incorporated as the CIA and Hefner's Playboy Honeypot.

"We know that Billy Graham is serviced by ... sex slaves." Mind Control

"Billy Graham has been built up to be the most respected and popular person in America.

"Who wants to find out they have been deceived?"

[The Deception of Billy Graham ](http://christianobserver.net/the-deception-of-billy-graham-a-mind-control-front/)/ Fritz Springmeier

"In 1952, in Paris, Billy Graham and another evangelist had dinner with two prostitutes and each one took one of them home.

"See Frady, Marshall. Billy Graham, A Parable of American Righteousness. Boston: Little, Brown & Co., p.169-170.

"In 1954, the man who ran security for the Sacramento Crusade saw a high-priced hooker sneak into Billy Graham’s room prior to him going out for the Crusade.

"Billy Graham and this high priced hooker were alone together in the room."

Billy Graham told the American people that we need to embrace the New World Order.


"When Billy Graham had his 1954 Crusade, large sums of the money came directly from people in the 'Illuminati', the Whitneys, the Vanderbilts, the Rockefellers, and Chase Manhattan."

"Billy Graham’s family when they originally came over to this nation were of the Frank family which is related to Jakob Frank...

"Billy Graham’s daughters have lived in Israel, and Billy Graham’s son fought with the Israeli army in the Six-Day War...

Billy Graham said that he "often attends love-ins and rock festivals incognito by putting on a false mustache and beard."

Billy Graham is linked to the CIA and CIA brainwashing.

"In The Deadly Deception, by Jim Shaw, an ex-33rd degree mason, ... Shaw relates how Graham was present at his ceremony initiating him into the 33rd degree. Only freemasons are allowed to attend these ceremonies."

"Mind-control survivor Kathleen Sullivan has written an astounding book...

"Sullivan says she was abused and raped by ... Billy Graham, among others."

http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2014/08/billy-graham-and-cliff-richard.html

Fuck you PLOT... go learn something TWIT

Sd Auntie said...

Phooey.on you!

Spider Rico said...

Take care

Raging Bunnies said...

These comments tho ...

Sign Name Below said...

Rest in peace

Ali B said...

He walked the walk and was a good man. Anyone who disagrees is an ignorant douche canoe. This is one man who was the real deal and a true servant of God. RIP. Haters gonna Hate (and go to hell)

plot said...

Have you heard the tapes of Graham's conversations with Nixon? They are less than godly.

The real deal produced a son like Franklin, a person very difficult to be proud of.

Fairylights said...

I'm obviously missing something, what's the deal with Franklin Graham? I know next to nothing about him other than he's Billy's son.

plot said...

Cocaine, drink, forcing crowds waiting for food and medicine to listen to her sermon first and give their lives to Jesus (even when the goods were not his.) He's a loon and an opportunist.

Did you know that Billy Graham bailed Martin Luther King out of jail? I didn't until tonight.

plot said...

*his* sermon

GoogleSleuth said...

Ughhh, I’m going to regret getting involved here... but you DO realize that’s a blog and has no factual basis whatsoever? Whichever side you’re on, for the love of GOD, please just check your sources. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true.

Sd Auntie said...

Cant wait to meet Black Jesus! Hallelujah!!! Praise God!

Elizabeth S. said...

How was he a racist? In 1952 he tore down the ropes segregating his audience for a speech in the Deep South and vowed never to speak to a segregated audience again. He wrote about the sin of racism.

Phelps said...

John 15:18 (the Red Words)

“If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also. But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because they do not know Him who sent Me. If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.

Poppymann said...

For all of you that loved that phony buttfuck, I'll just leave this here:
From Nixon's tapes.

''They're the ones putting out the pornographic stuff,'' Graham had said to Nixon. The Jewish ''stranglehold has got to be broken or the country's going down the drain,'' he continued.

Graham told Nixon that Jews did not know his true feelings about them.

''I go and I keep friends with Mr. Rosenthal (A.M. Rosenthal) at The New York Times and people of that sort, you know. And all -- I mean, not all the Jews, but a lot of the Jews are great friends of mine, they swarm around me and are friendly to me because they know that I'm friendly with Israel. But they don't know how I really feel about what they are doing to this country. And I have no power, no way to handle them, but I would stand up if under proper circumstances.''

plot said...

Thanks for that Poppyman.

What went on between Nixon and Graham was atrocious. I can't imagine Graham gave that up completely after Nixon resigned.

Phelps said...

https://www.jewishquarterly.org/issuearchive/articled325.html?articleid=38

Truth doesn’t stop being true because it makes you uncomfortable.

plot said...

WTH has that article have to do with Nixon or Graham, tell us.

longtimereader said...

Plot - Hang on, did you just claim to know my spiritual inclinations from two decades ago from across the Atlantic!?! that's some talent or more likely breathtaking arrogance. Is it beyond your conception that someone might renounce their atheism because they realise that humanity is complex and that people of faith deserve respect?

plot said...

Yes.

I don't think you internalized your atheism at all. It was a label you prefered for a moment without a depth of understanding. This is not limited to atheism. I also see, in your explanation for now believing, a tendency for superficiality and a need to seem some way rather than internalize it. Your words, at least, give that impression. Others deserving respect is not a good reason. That quality is not limited to believers only and so, yeah, I don't think you take on much more than labels.

Sorry, just calling it like I see it.

Phelps said...

You are a person full of hate, and that hate prevents you from respecting others. Because you cannot respect others without first losing your hate, you look at all the happy people in the world -- Christians, conservatives, people in traditional gender roles, etc -- and refuse to consider their ideas because you have already labeled them as someone who "hates" because of psychological projection.

Sorry, just calling it like I see it.

plot said...

@Phelps

Tell me how this all ties together. The porn article is has what to do with Graham and Nixon? And if you are describing me as filled with hate, what has that do to with porn, Graham or Nixon?

Tricia13 said...

Beautifully said.
And pretty sure it was breathtaking ignorance 😉

Phelps said...

I'll help you with your reading comprehension.

Hophead complained that Billy Graham is a "phony buttfuck" because he complained about Jewish influence and control of the pornography industry.

I showed that the pornography industry was, and continued to be, in fact controlled by jewish owners. I showed this using a periodical published by and for jewish people.

Your hate has made it apparent over many, many threads, and has been known to regulars here for a long long time.

plot said...

"I showed that the pornography industry was, and continued to be, in fact controlled by jewish owners."

All of it? If I find one porn production company that is not controlled by a jewish owner, will you admit you are wrong? How about 10 porn companies? What's your requirement?

"has been known to regulars here for a long long time"

Ah, so your invisible friends think I have hate for...what exactly? Far be it from me to argue with the invisible.

Phelps said...

My requirement is that you argue from good faith, which you are incapable of.

plot said...

I'm trying to do so.

How many non-Jewish porn producers do you need me to dig up to invalidate your statement that Jews control the whole porn industry? What will you accept?

Phelps said...

I never argued that "Jews control the whole porn industry."

Bad faith.

plot said...

Yeah you kinda did -

"I showed that the pornography industry was, and continued to be, in fact controlled by jewish owners."

First, you showed nothing of the sort. Second, you are claiming that the porn industry, as a whole, is controlled by jewish owners.


Do you wish now to revise?

Phelps said...

I do not wish to revise

You are arguing from bad faith, and I can not take you as a serious person.

plot said...

Or you cannot argue with me, because you know where this is headed and you know you're in a very weak position in your claims of those jews controlling the porn industry.

Sure, go ahead, call it bad faith because you're scared. When you find some courage, I'll be happy to take this up again and we'll research how much of the porn industry is really controlled by those jews. it would be educational for both of us, no?

Phelps said...

I cannot argue with you because you are not arguing. It will not be educational for both of us, because you are incapable of changing your opinions, which is essential to learning. You don't seek education -- you only seek to control others.

As an example: Jewish people are 3% of the American population. What percentage of jewish-owned production companies would convince you that the porn industry is controlled by jewish owners? 6%? 51%? 75%?

You will be unable to come up with a number (other than 100%) because you are not arguing in good faith.

plot said...

"because you are incapable of changing your opinions"

Well, it does require effort by those seeking to change my opinion, that is true. It has happened though.

"you only seek to control others."

Asking you for some material basis for your claims, which I generously agreed to contribute to, is trying to control you???? Really??? That makes it sound like any questioning of your fantasies translates in your head to control.

Do facts and research of any kind seek to control you? Or is it that you accept only facts, or things that look like fact, that confirm your own bias?

"What percentage of jewish-owned production companies would convince you that the porn industry is controlled by jewish owners? 6%? 51%? 75%?"

That's a GREAT question, actually, and we'd have to establish that going in. I'm inclined to think that if we establish that more than 50% ownership allows us to declare that more than 50% of porn production has some form of jewish ownership.

Another thing we'd have to agree on is whether the online amatuer porn is allowed inside our research parameters, since that is the largest growing porn market at the moment.

"You will be unable to come up with a number (other than 100%)"

WTF? I've not made the all inclusive statements you have. I've never said one way or the other. If we find that there is jewish ownership over 25% or 75% of porn production, that's just what it is, nothing more, nothing less. Of course, you and I will have to establish what we mean by ownership as opposed to investment.


Phelps said...

Another thing we'd have to agree on is whether the online amatuer porn is allowed inside our research parameters, since that is the largest growing porn market at the moment.

There was no online porn in the 1970s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_in_the_United_States

"In this period America's most notorious pornographer was Reuben Sturman. According to the U.S. Department of Justice, throughout the 1970s, Sturman controlled most of the pornography circulating in the country."

Most is more than 50%. QED

plot said...

Okay, so we're only talking 70s porn?

Do I have that right?

I'll give this fellow Sturman a look-see.

Phelps said...

My argument, from the start, has been that Billy Graham is not a "phony buttfuck" for saying that the porn industry was controlled by jewish people in a conversation with Richard Nixon in 1972.

I can't specify your argument because you haven't had one.

plot said...

But would Graham even know who Sturman was???

Did Billy look at the blue films and mags Sturman was putting out?

During the 70s, the face of porn were Hugh Hefner, Bob Guccione and Larry Flynt, none of which were Jewish. I have no doubt Graham held whispery conversations of hidden Jewish influences even there. But Sturman was his own man, unassociated with the growing and legitimate forms of porn like Playboy and Hustler (in fact, they were responsible for Sturman's loss of business.)

From what I'm reading, Sturman's court cases using the 1st Amendment paved the way for others like Hefner. Sturman never lost a case, he was a savvy guy from what I can tell though he fell for the dumbest play in the book by not paying his taxes.

Sturman controlled mainly the peep show industry, after the legit porn mags were sold freely at newstands. He still had a hold over porn movie theaters, too. That is hardly overwhelming control over the whole porn industry of the 70s. If it were the 60s, the argument could be made that Sturman controlled a major portion of porn, a huge hunk of it, in fact. But even then his market was quickly eroding.

Interesting fellow, this Sturman, thanks for passing him on.

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