Defamer And The Marilyn Monroe Sex Tape
Let me start by saying I like Defamer and their site, and this should in no way be taken as a slam against them. After the Marilyn Monroe sex tape story was released, they took it upon themselves to do a little debunking, and to try and establish that the tape sold for $1.5M was just a big hoax.
They invited three Marilyn Monroe experts who attempted to break down the hoax bit by bit. I'm not 100% sure if a Marilyn tape exists or not. One thing I am sure of though is that this debunking didn't really debunk anything.
In a very lengthy article, the authors contempt and dislike for the broker of the sale is obvious and it seems to color everything they say. Just because you don't like someone doesn't mean they don't have the goods. Just ask David Hans Schmidt.
All their debunking does is ask more questions. It doesn't provide any answers at all. It presents possible reasons why the tape might not be considered real, but again their only real reason is that they don't like the broker, and all three writers are convinced they know everything that ever happened in Marilyn's life and she would never do a sex tape.
Here are some of their arguments.
"You see instantly that it's Marilyn Monroe - she has the famous mole." This is a quote by Keya Morgan, which is one of the flimsiest pieces of evidence ever presented. Just because this alleged film has a person with a mole, it's instantly Marilyn Monroe?
No, of course it isn't instantly Marilyn Monroe, but if the tape does exist, and one thinks it might be Marilyn, then yes, the mole would be something one would expect to see.
Essentially Morgan is claiming that this is a bootleg copy of a classified FBI film. So if an original is classified, why would the FBI allow this public brouhaha in the press and not stop this sale from taking place? Why would this film copy not be destroyed?
Just because something is still considered classified and would not be released under FOIA rules doesn't mean it really is still classified in the sense that someone will be killed if they saw it. The FBI would look pretty silly trying to rush out and stop the sale of a sex tape. Just because they haven't released one, doesn't mean they would stop the sale of one.
Keya Morgan claims to respect Joe DiMaggio (it is alleged that DiMaggio tried to pay the informant $25,000 for the film and the offer was refused), and Marilyn Monroe even greater. Then why would Mr. Morgan allow this sale considering his "respect" of DiMaggio and Monroe? If he was such a collector looking to protect Marilyn Monroe especially, why would he not keep this supposed film safely in his own collection?
Ummm. He needed money. And the guy he sold it to said he wasn't going to release it.
Like I said, I am not convinced either way. You read the article, and you decide.
They invited three Marilyn Monroe experts who attempted to break down the hoax bit by bit. I'm not 100% sure if a Marilyn tape exists or not. One thing I am sure of though is that this debunking didn't really debunk anything.
In a very lengthy article, the authors contempt and dislike for the broker of the sale is obvious and it seems to color everything they say. Just because you don't like someone doesn't mean they don't have the goods. Just ask David Hans Schmidt.
All their debunking does is ask more questions. It doesn't provide any answers at all. It presents possible reasons why the tape might not be considered real, but again their only real reason is that they don't like the broker, and all three writers are convinced they know everything that ever happened in Marilyn's life and she would never do a sex tape.
Here are some of their arguments.
"You see instantly that it's Marilyn Monroe - she has the famous mole." This is a quote by Keya Morgan, which is one of the flimsiest pieces of evidence ever presented. Just because this alleged film has a person with a mole, it's instantly Marilyn Monroe?
No, of course it isn't instantly Marilyn Monroe, but if the tape does exist, and one thinks it might be Marilyn, then yes, the mole would be something one would expect to see.
Essentially Morgan is claiming that this is a bootleg copy of a classified FBI film. So if an original is classified, why would the FBI allow this public brouhaha in the press and not stop this sale from taking place? Why would this film copy not be destroyed?
Just because something is still considered classified and would not be released under FOIA rules doesn't mean it really is still classified in the sense that someone will be killed if they saw it. The FBI would look pretty silly trying to rush out and stop the sale of a sex tape. Just because they haven't released one, doesn't mean they would stop the sale of one.
Keya Morgan claims to respect Joe DiMaggio (it is alleged that DiMaggio tried to pay the informant $25,000 for the film and the offer was refused), and Marilyn Monroe even greater. Then why would Mr. Morgan allow this sale considering his "respect" of DiMaggio and Monroe? If he was such a collector looking to protect Marilyn Monroe especially, why would he not keep this supposed film safely in his own collection?
Ummm. He needed money. And the guy he sold it to said he wasn't going to release it.
Like I said, I am not convinced either way. You read the article, and you decide.
11 comments:
Kind of makes you wonder why it took all these years for a porn film to come out.
i don't know. the IMDB bio of Keya Morgan sold me. what a douche bag.
How do we know there is not a copy of the copy??
Aren't all people with moles Cindy Crawford? I guess I'm just too young having been born after Marilyn's death.
I dunno, I really doubt the credibility of this guy, and I DID think the whole "Oh yeah I had a tape but I sold it so now no one will see it" sounds a little "off". What, you couldnt find someone who'd pay 8 million and still keep it quiet, instead of a lousy 1.5?
Reminds me of a kid I knew in high school, who'd always claim he had really cool stuff so people would like him...but then if you asked to see any of it, it was always "Oh, I cant, its in my dad's safety deposit box" or, "Oh I cant, I lent it to my brother in college and he wont return it til Christmas" and on and on and on until you stopped even trying. He was a douche.
Ugh I read the IMDB. Anyone who feels the need to mention that they rented MacCaulay Culkin's apartment, and was neighbors with Angelina Jolie, is a DOUCHE DOUCHE DOUCHE.
lol that guy keya morgan looks like freddie prinze jr., at least in that imdb photo
lol on his imdb photos
http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjE5NjE4NjgwMV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNzk0ODM2MQ@@._V1._CR22,0,289,289_SS80_.jpg
theres one where michael douglas is like "GET away from my woman!!! this is MY seat!!"
This tape story made me think of the story from February about the moron who was convinced he had found a photo of Marilyn hitchhiking naked on the side of the road with a cigarette in her mouth. He even got a Marilyn "expert" to verify that it was indeed Marilyn, and they were going to auction off the "rare" photo. Until the press told them it was a photo of Madonna. Duh.
Mark Bellinghaus an expert? The same wacko psychopath Mark Bellinghaus who has threatened and harassed hundreds of us Marilyn Monroe fans. Who showed up at Marilyn Monroe’s funeral on her 45th anniversary and screamed obscenities for over an hour (in front of hundreds of people and children). Check out the videos of him screaming and yelling at people on youtube.
This nut job has so many restraining orders filed against him that the courts in California have run out of paper. I hope Producer Keya Morgan or someone gets this guy locked up for good.
Here is a quote from the self proclaimed expert Mark Bellinghaus “I want to free Marilyn and make her image public domain,” he says. “Some day Marilyn will be bigger than Jesus!”
Bellinghaus has already put his money where his faith is by purchasing the domain name ChurchofMarilynMonroe.
All I can think of when I hear the name Mark Bellinghaus is a schizophrenic psychopath.
I would like to point you to the sworn testimony of Law Enforcement officials who are trained experts on stalkers and who have met with this Mark / Hans guy and have testified under oath in court that this Mark Bellinghaus / Hans Sigfried Otto Schmidt guy is "emotionally unbalanced" and presents a "danger" to the community.
To read the exact transcripts you can click on the link below and read all the chilling details for yourself about who this Mark / Hans guy really is:
www.yashawins.blogspot.com
http://www.marilynmonroeforall.com
A slightly updated version of my description about the people who have the guts to come on here and every other site where Mark Bellinghaus is warning the public about their methods and evil attacks.
Shame on the phony ‘Marilyn fans’ who are nothing but Marilyn Monroe jealous haters and monster, freaks and circus attractions.
Can YOU tell the difference between
Mark Bellinghaus and a stinking
black pot full of cyberharassers?
by Ernest Cunningham,
author, The Ultimate Marilyn and plaintiff
in the Marilyn Monroe / Queen Mary
class action lawsuit
Mark Bellinghaus and I met by chance at the now-infamous and bogus exhibit of Marilyn Monroe memorabilia aboard the Queen Mary ocean liner. We accompanied two newspaper reporters.
I was puzzled: what th’ hell is this junk? Mark was furious: who do they think they’re fooling with this junk?! We were both in an agitated state, while the two reporters made copious notes.
Mark said, This is an outrage—someone should report it to the police! I said, I’ll go with you—and we were off and running . . . and we slowed down only long enough to pick up Jennifer Dickinson to run with us.
Time and tears later, we pause to wonder if—knowing what we now know—would we have continued with our fight . . . if we had known the ugliness and the outrage and the criminal behavior –the violence and the threats—we would encounter?
Truthfully, I don’t think so. Who would have expected men and women who identify themselves as fans of unforgettable Marilyn Monroe—a lovely, compassionate and gentle woman—to be so violent, and vicious, and deceitful?
Who could have imagined that we (Mark and Jennifer and Ernest) would one day have to file police reports against other Marilyn fans? That we would have to go to the courts to ask for legal protection from these people—they had put their clearly worded threats of violence—and death!–into emails and blogs that were traceable.
But then came the day when the safety of two small children was threatened, and we went forced to file for a restraining order against the sicko responsible. We went with a professional process server to deliver the stay-away order—and they called the police to us. We had the restraining order—would you like to see it?—but they were the ones crying for help.
Now, this rogue element, this group of “cyberstalkers” has increased its emails and blogs and anonymous postings and threats. They continue their dirty tricks, their obscene illustrations, their childish and stupid uses of the Internet to threaten people.
Mark, Jennifer and I are serious writers and researchers. (Resumes on request) We have debunked nonsense after nonsense, while these people, also called jealous haters and Marilyn fans (they are the opposite) mainly a restrained for his AIDS blood threats and threats towards five people: Eric M Woodard, Pauline Berry, Merja Pohjola, Jill Adams, Heidi Hanson-Hidrobo, Ken Knoll, Daniel Rutschman aka Bret Ludwid aka ‘Danamo,’ Melinda Mason, Dorothy Broekaert, Frank Ferruccio, Hillary Jayne Mansfield, and many other people who found it ‘chic’ to join a group of criminals, haters and fruitcakes. I have witnessed that these people followed Mark Bellinghaus to every single website he went, reported him, had him kicked out with their vicious lies and malicious slander. They are like the KKK and the Nazis–combined. They smile in your face and they have manners, if they want. But their motor for all these actions is called CMG Worldwide and their master is an evil lawyer who turned Marilyn Monroe into a salt and pepper shaker. A tacky kitsch item. These people adopted hate and they love it. The group we are protesting are childish, vicious, and obscene. They may have a place on the Internet, but it should be very far away from decent people. I urge you to remove this ugliness and hatred from your site.
Thank you for giving this problem your careful consideration.
Ernest Cunningham
A postscript: Mark Bellinghaus is not a ’self-proclaimed’ Marilyn expert: he has worked long and hard to achieve that distinction. He was the appointed as the official expert witness in the Queen Mary Marilyn Monroe fraud lawsuit. He worked with Christie’s auction house in NYC and other auction houses in the past. He just succeeded to defend Marilyn Monroe’s legacy which had been tainted once again. What have the cyberharassers done for Marilyn Monroe, other than to shame her with their viciousness, their hatred, their greed? Shame on the so called ‘fans,’ who are nothing but haters.
And 'walki09' seems like the Cyber Nazi from New Zealand who has tried to give Kudos to the Keya Morgan story, because she is a William Travilla fraud peddling witch who is laughing about peace. Hate is Pauline Berry’s mantra. She is doing her hobby reporter and investigator shtick and she is obsessed with hate that much, that her hook like nose is turning into a claw.
The Mermaids Danceband wannabe somebody screamer with the Mark Bellinghaus obsession.
You lady horror have nothing to demand, when you are supporting wicked and sick frauds, crimes and sellouts. Your media has been alarmed and should it come to reality that your project will travel to your country, the fingers will be pointed at you for a change and then my evil soul, you will have the attention that you have been craving for so long. You truly chose the perfect name for your Wikipedia theater of hate, when you delete people and get off on that. Delicious Carbuncle, yes that is exactly how anyone can describe you from the inside and the outside as well.
Eric M Woodard, 46, an with his AIDS blood threatening monster, Pauline Berry, 46, a with her hateful and evil viciousness threatening BS–the two monsters, one big match.
They both want to fool the world, the innocent people who are interested in the life and time of Marilyn Monroe and they give orders all the time.
Pauline Berry = CRACKPOT
Eric Woodard = SAD
You people call Mark Bellinghaus a cyberharasser and you are stalking him, post website after website and blog after blog when he hasn’t posted anything negative in three weeks.
Oh wow, afraid of peace? Thought so. What would you talk about for a change? Marilyn Monroe?
Ha!
Hating is what you are getting up for each day, the old and wrinkled Berry, her face is pain, her smile is painful.
Her lies are obvious.
http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/blogger-bites-back/2008/4/18/marilyn-monroe-sex-tape-hoax-simpsons-hospitilisation-shocker/?c_id=1501119
Pauline
Birkenhead
8:35PM Sunday
20 April 2008
The “expert” that has debunked the tape is nothing of the sort, but a kind of Monroe fanatic.
I have reasons to believe the sex footage to be genuine, but I can’t prove it anymore than the so-called expert. Remember though, Joe DiMaggio was known to be a “thrifty” guy and he wouldn’t offer anyone $25k in the late 50s without him thinking it was really Monroe in the film.
Pauline Berry made a fool out of herself after talking to Mark Bellinghaus for 20+ minutes on the phone and then when he had enough and was about to hang up (after asking her three times to stop her stalking actions) she would finish with:
‘Bye, love you Mark’
Would you tell this to a person you claim is cyberharassing you?
She is crazy and she is craving for attention.
And she copied each and every move, followed him wherever he went, reported him with vicious lies and slander. But: she turned herself into a PROMINENT, a now famous: J-O-K-E
This is for ‘walki09’ and we assume that this is the paid KKK-like group of people who claim to know the William Travilla exhibit which was debunked and exposed by Mark Bellinghaus and Jennifer J. Dickinson not once but twice.
We can feel your anger, woman. But if your little sister was a Marilyn Monroe fan, and she wouldn’t have much money, she is saving up the $20 just to see the six or seven claimed authentic dresses on display. She would be devastated to learn that it was just a fraud, a hoax, a prank. Would you laugh about this, Pauline Berry? With the fake smile that you are using, when you are pitching your alcoholic beverages in your videos?
Would you not feel ashamed at least a bit, to learn that your fellow New Zealand citizens would be duped by an old liar who is tainting the legacy of his ex lover died 18 years ago?
Where are your ethics, people?
Why are you so obsessed with hate and evil actions?
Is Mark evil in your eyes, just because he warned the little sister not to spend her money to look at some cheap rip-offs?
Is Mark your target, because he is success, despite the hate of a group of lunatic fanatics who forgot their reason to live?
If you had been living for 17 years with the AIDS virus, would you not try to make peace with yourself and others, because your days could be over at any moment?
Eric Woodard gave us his good news that he will make it and we truly are happy for him.
There is only one explanation why he is attacking us for years now. Are you really proud of your hate you are producing each and every day, over and over–the hate you are releasing into the cyberspace?
Your hate filled writings, directed towards Jennifer J. Dickinson are wrong, Pauline Berry, because if you don’t stop, we will file a suit against you, all of us and we can imagine, that this is what you want. You supported a man who threatened two little children and who posted these threats on his blog.
How sick are you really, Pauline Berry? And where is your husband, that he is letting all this injustice happening.
You want to destroy us all, Pauline Berry?
It ain’t happening. I promise. And: you’ll see.
Ernest W. Cunningham
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