I can't believe it's been 19 years!! Wow, I feel old
Watching this made me realise that he really did have some deep seated psychological issues. I didn't know he'd had a mental breakdown on their first tour, or that he'd tried to commit suicide before and left a three page note. That should put to rest any rumors that Courtney had anything to do with it. He just sounds very deeply mentally disturbed and couldn't handle the spotlight/pressure/schedule/demands/ psychology of celebrity. Who in their right mind could?
I remember when he died I was in junior high starting to get into his music. There was a lot of crying at school.
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He was very tormented by his demons. Sometimes being so talented can be a burden. Rest in Peace you beautiful artistic soul.
My sister had tickets for their next tour in the UK. She was entitled to a refund but was really offended by the idea of cashing in her ticket. She'd first seen them supporting Mudhoney at the Astoria and it was musical love from then on. Then came Courtney, MTV and the end.
It seems weird seeing their smiley face t shirt in Top Shop windows and on teenagers. I wonder what he'd have thought.
I'll never forget the first time I heard "Smells like teen spirit". I was in college and driving and they played it on the college station. I literally pulled my car over to listen to it and knew music would never be the same. His death, for me, was like John Lennon dying.
Very True CrazyCatLady. 4 minutes love is not enough.
Sadly I couldn't view the video either but I agree CatLady. Their music changed things for me. I heard about his death driving down Hwy 101 in the bay area and I actually cried like when John Lennon died. He was a tortured soul as is CL. That's why they connected no doubt.
Ditto! I remember being in the bus on the way to school and hearing about it.
Courtney Love was on The View this week. When Baba asked her how she felt about his anniversary the following day, she said oh, is it tomorrow?
I remember the day Kurt died. My friends and I made the trek to the Center (Seattle Center) There were so so so many people there crying their eyes out.
I was stunned and cried over the loss of Kurt. I still have the vhs tapes of MTV for that day. They covered his death for a while. Rest in Peace Kurt. You are missed
I'm a Gen Xer who owned NEVERMIND but never really thought KC was a genius. Still don't. I liked Hole WAY better. Does that make me weird? (You know, not counting everything ELSE that makes me weird?!)
Well, Kurt had A LOT to do w/ Holes most successful album Live Through This…so I think that says it all. I am a huge fan of both Nirvana & Hole, but I also acknowledge the fact that if not for Kurt & later Billy Corgan their best music would not exist. R.I.P Kurt, u are missed always.
I was in the biology greenhouse when I heard about his death. It was pretty devastating. I've made the trek to his house. He was the proverbial tortured artist – like most of the artists we truly love, and they don't last long on this plane, but they sure make a hell of an impact.
For me, hearing "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was like hearing real music after almost a couple decades of a real serious rock dry spell. That album, and "Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magic" got me through bootcamp.
I always thought Kurt Cobain was highly overrated.
Really Agent?! That's crazy that she didn't even know. facepalm
I loved Kurt Cobain…still do. Rest in peace, Kurt.
I was driving down greenlake ave in seattle when the news came on the radio_ wow! 19 yrs! There were TONS of ppl at seattle center and over by his house too, so sad
I was always so sad I never saw them live. They used to play at the Satyricon ( Portlands now closed equivilant of CBGBs) all the time before they blew up but I was a freshman at the time and wasnt hitting up those venues til I was a little older. BUT funny story – my old neighbor and brothers babysitter was on that documentary Kirk and Courtney .. She was the stripper who claimed that she hung out with them all the time and had tons of pictures but they were " in her moms attic " and it was hard to retrieve them. Then the filmmakers surprised her at some apartment and she hid in the closet?! Still claiming she could never get those pics because of her mom. Does anyone remember that? Yah – for the record she's a crazy lying beezee and still is to this day. I dates her brother four years ago and we all went to Disneyland and she was flipping off kids in the park. Oh crazy Amy – I love to this day how clowned she got in the documentary!!
I always think if he had just hung on a few more months while the 'grunge' fad passed. He could of gone on to have a nice little indie career without all the hot fame lights making him so mainstream to the masses he hated so much.
As everyone always says suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
This site would make a great case study for sociology on how whitefolks think. Thursday was the 45th anniversary of the assasination of MLK. This site posted on Roger Ebert's death and pulled a TABLOID article about Natalie Wood's death BUT nothing on King!!!!!
Now Enty/Enity is commemorating the death of a rock star who took his own sorry life!!!!
Whitefolks never cease to amaze.
Cobain is responsible for the death of rock n roll. Rock has never recovered from the vileness that was grunge.
We must all be around the same age, because I have Jr.high memories of the same. I'm still a fan today.
You need context. Her whole face fell, she teared up, and she admitted that she knew it was this week, but not that it was the very next day.
When he was first mainstream popular, I thought he was overrated, but it seems as his music has an ability to deeply touch a certain sadness that everyone seems to be able to relate to, for most, the sadness ebbs away, others are consumed by it. The hopelessness in his voice had a certain charisma.
I just can't with him.I'm sorry but he hooked up with someone even more screwed up than he was and at the age of 27 I would think you'd outgrow the angst and anger and take responsibility.Especially being a new father.Great choice Kurt, leave Francis to Courtney.Was he talented? Yes. Was he a crybaby? I think so.
I just can't with him. I had tickets to the Pearl Jam show in VA when Eddie learned he shot himself and tossed a fit on the stage. I guess those 2 were friends.
And I know I will be tossed into a pit for saying this but I relate Kurt's voice to Chad of Nickleback.Listen to 'how you remind me' and picture Kurt singing it.
*don't hit me*
@justcurious, you have a point there! A friend of mine recently went to Memphis and said that seeing the Lorraine Motel museum/memorial was a moving experience.
I was 13 when he died and I remember "Sassy" magazine asking their readers "What would you write for Kurt Cobain's epitaph?" and one of the winning entries was "Stupid idiot that left his daughter behind". That one got "Sassy" a lot of mail…
geez i really wish I could view this :((((I miss the grunge and I miss the music. dont get music like the 90s anymore
@ABlake, you won't get any hitting from me… I was a teen around that time and I think Kurt is our generation's equivalent of John Lennon.
@Alicia, Satyricon! I'll always remember them for Sweaty Nipples – they formed the band just so they could get into Satyricon (being underaged). We thought it was funny b/c almost every club in Seattle would take your fake ID and we'd carpool up there, but damn, that was genius.
@JC, you're on an ENTERTAINMENT blog, not a political, cultural, or sociological blog. Cobain, Ebert, Woods – entertainers. MLK – transformer.
"Whitefolks" has nothing to do it.
Iz, if Kurt sang that song it would have been even bigger than it was (if that makes sense). I felt the same when I heard Sheryl Crowe sing "Strong Enough". If Stevie Nicks sang it…outta the park.
Anna,I didn't see her tear up, Not at all. She did appear somewhat sober.She said she thinks of him on his birthday.
My friends and I went for a long car ride the day he died (a friend's dad drive as we were all pre-teen) and we cried the whole way. Had to turn the radio off to stop hearing the news.
Ditto Izzie but if Enty put THAT information up I would also tell you where I was and how I felt. If you'd like to start a blog yourself Just Curious I would certainly visit it and comment. I can't promise you I'll be completely sympathetic as deeply as you would like me to be mainly because I am a 52 yr old white woman and also because I get the feeling no one could ever meet your standard of empathy. While dragging this post even further OT I'd like to add that for the most of us in the group we're pretty sensitive to racial injustice and are not by and large a buncha bigots.
Agent: Red Sox season is coming up. Mark it
SherryI wish Ent would do a your turn about movies from other countries that people would enjoy, thank you for your input yesterday.Don't worry about JC, every blog seems to have an instigator.
Don't forget Layne!
Poor Kurt,it's sad that he didn't think there was another answer.
I think Courtney is responsible for his death.Did she pull the trigger? NopeWas she the emotional trigger? I think yes.
No conspiracy theory, simply speculation.
Ablake: your prayers are answered. RexRuther and others have begun an off topic site to address this and other requirements (recipes, pain issues, etc.) It's clicky link is under the blind about Megan Fox today but longhand (and there's instructions there on how to make all things clicky as well! ) is;
I'll put my thinking cap on and add some movies next week. Two do come to mind. "Metro" and "French Twist". Also believe it or not "3 Men And a Baby" the original. Finally "City of Lost Children". 4 different genres. Enjoy!
ABlake, got the mlb baseball package. On paper, they're picked for last place (along with the Yanks). Toronto is picked for first. Of course, as my Dad would say, they don't play the game on paper:)
Haha, and the Ravens were the underdogs;)Since Bf is a Vikings fan (and holy cow I still haven't heard the last of Ponder being out and replaced by Webb) I need to root for his baseball team. Also, I just plain like them. i LOVED A-Rod's pout when he was sat out last season.
And I am so sorry to everyone for going off topic. I like to discuss sports is all. Apologies again.
you mean A Roid:)
I was a 27 year old mother listening to the radio, sitting on the floor and playing with my 18 month old daughter. I remember being stunned when I heard the news because while I loved Nirvana and FINALLY felt like there was music that was "mine", what shocked me was my precious girl wiped my tears and said said clear as day "don't cry momma" then went about her business babbling her indecipherable baby talk.
I hope Kurt, wherever he ended up, found peace from his pain, both physical and emotional. RIP.
Can't view way up here in Canada either..;)Was listening to a radio 'special today about Kurt. Really a tortured soul.. And, nirvana brought me through a dark time at a pivotal age. For that reason alone I still love me some grunge! And always watch Singles if I catch it while flipping channels ::sigh:: Kurt and Layne.. Not a good week for us 90's grunge fans.
@justcurious – I tend to celebrate birthdays rather than death days. I had no idea today was related to anything "celebrity death"wise. But while I celebrate with fervor MLK's birthday every year, I have no idea when Cobain's, Ebert's, or Woods's birthdays are. Not sure it's a "white people thing" so much as a "whose death do you remember?" thing.
I remember vividly learning about his death. I had to explain it in Spanish since I was in language immersion school.
I went to Pearl Jam that night in Northern Virginia, we were worried that they would cancel, but they didn't.
They closed with "better to burn out than to fade away" song.
You could tell they were devastated but they put on a great show.
I was only a kid when he died, just 9, but I had been listening to Nirvana for years thanks to an older family friend who had a Nirvana obsession. I still remember sobbing about it.
He was such a tormented soul, I hope he found some peace one way or another. I'll always cherish his music.
I'm not even going to touch the whitefolks thing. Do we talk about blackfolks? We are Americans. And this is an entertainment website, and whatever Enty chooses to make it about. We have enough death, race, murder, divorce, i.e serious issues in our own lives. Why would I want to rant and rave about it here every day? Has anyone ever noticed how heated and opinionated the gun and race threads get around here? Would we want that energy going constantly? I'm glad we're not talking about that kind of stuff every day, but creative talent and creative people. Just me.
I was 15 when he died. I wasn't a big grunge fan coz I was into heavy metal (Pantera, Slayer, Faith No More etc) and grunge was the death of it. Us leather and doc marten wearers didn't like the crusty grungers very much. But I was devastated when I heard the news. I knew then things had changed. Music would be different. We all kinda grew up fast.I was also very angry at him. He chose drugs and pain over his daughter. He couldn't see the woods for the trees. It sounds harsh but at 15 I wasn't as aware of how depression affects people.It was sad. Its still sad.
@Alicia I was coming here to ask if anybody saw that documentary. I have it on dvd and its a very interesting and very honest piece of film.I knew she was a lying toerag. I liked how he just let her talk and talk. People like her were part of the problems he had. Hangers on who sniffed around.Courtney's dad is a horrible human being too. Easy to see what drew them together. She learned to be what she is from that piece of filth.
@Jessica absolutely. Another one gone too soon this week. I'm glad someone else remembered.
Love this story!
Long live the Nipples! I still see Davey around all the time.. He's only a few years older than me. He'sa doll. I'm glad I got to experience Satyricon/Fellini early on. Same with La Luna .. Oh the stories!!!
Lol at toerag!!! I love it
Who knows how many brain cells she has left?
I actually know a close family member of Kurt Cobain. To be honest, I didn't know he was related to Kurt because he never mentioned it until I looked on Google one day to find his phone number and up came several articles about him and Kurt. I was shocked.
I did ask him about whether he thought Courtney had anything to do with Kurt's death. His answer was actually two-fold-that Kurt had such medical issues with his stomach (pain) that he couldn't alleviate but heroin did take care of it. On the other hand, Kurt wanted desperately to be clean but couldn't seem to do it. It was a lose-lose situation for him. (And yes, Courtney introduced him to heroin). Anyway, RIP to a very talented performer.
It was always my understanding his heroin addiction was started as self-medication for his stomach issues, which caused him a great deal of pain, which that pain probably also made him depressed. I have chronic migraines, and before I got any semblance of control over them, the pain was unbearable and made me depressed. I just wanted the pain to stop. to go away. I was put on antidepressants for the depression, but the kind of depression I had wasn't from a seratonin imbalance, it was because I was miserable because I was in so much pain. The antidepressants turned me into a raging lunatic because I didn't need them. So while I don't condone suicide, I can fully understand how someone just wants the physical pain to end. And I can understand why he did what he did. I also believe Courtney played a part somehow. I don't really care for her and I think it speaks volumes that her own daughter doesn't associate with her much. His death still leaves me with a sadness in my heart.