Monday, November 13, 2017

Today's Blind Items - Child Porn And Drugs - The Story Of Two A Listers

For the past month, I keep hearing that these two women, who were each at one point A listers were going to come forward and tell their story. They can tell it a lot better than me. One of them even knows the details of how this became one of the largest child porn rings in the world. Back when this show first aired, people were just starting to buy VCR's. Those are machines which play videos in cassette form. Yeah, a cassette was - never mind.

The first A lister basically made her career from the show. All of you know her. I mean all of you. Although she credits her career to the show, she also credits her years of hard core drug abuse and her sex addiction and trouble with intimacy and commitment to the show. You tell me how you would be if at the age of 9 or 10 you were being offered drugs by producers and then while you were almost passed out from the drugs, being molested and raped by those same men. Oh, and a great percentage of other times they would take the boys you were starring with and make them have sex with you or the producers would be getting naked with the boys.

What if they kept telling you how great you were and then sent you all over the world to promote the show? Did I say promote as in talking about the show? No, they sent her all over the world to have sex with guys interested in child porn in other countries who wanted to start their own versions of the show.

When she got to be in her teens they pushed her out of the show and she ended up being molested by a different group of producers in a different corner of the entertainment world. She says she was first molested at 9 or 10 and that she did not have consensual sex until she was almost 20.

Our second A lister was A list for much longer. ALL of you know her. She was kind of a replacement for out first victim. She was also about ten when she started on the show and started being molested and assaulted on an almost daily basis. She blames her trust issues and intimacy issues on the experience. She also says it is one of the reasons she ever refused to get naked or topless for a movie. It triggers her to see any kind of camera when she is topless or naked. That is the only way they would film her when she was a kid. She has never really relished being in the public eye but always said she would work enough to never have to work again and she has pretty much done that.

The owners of these companies were incredibly smart sexual predators. They were constantly changing the name of the holding company. They would transfer ownership of the companies through other studios. They knew which producers and politicians loved child porn and would send them the videos. These guys started doing child porn and then realized if they started a television show or pretended they were starting a show they could have more access to kids. The way things worked, they made a few episodes of the show just to show people so they could get more kids. It was not until they met another child porn lover who was also a producer that saw the show that they sold it.

One of these producers is still working today in the same kind of environment. For decades he has been doing what he does to children and tweens. The thing is though, none of his shows have really ever produced stars the level of the two mentioned here.

Oh, one time about a decade ago, the second of our two victims in this blind was making noises about going public. One of the foreign child porn producers she had met one of her "exchange tours" arranged for her to make a record. Although it was released here, it was only a moderate success. In the country overseas though it sold millions of copies making her a huge star in that country. The company spent millions on advertising to ensure the sales and that deal has kept her quiet until now.

I am really hoping they step forward because it will create the avalanche necessary to get all the other victims from that show and the ones since to step forward and bring this group down.

116 comments:

sandybrook said...

Jennifer Love Hewritt for the second A lister?

MontanaMarriott said...

Could this be Kids Incorporated?

sandybrook said...

Nicole Eggart for the first one?

MontanaMarriott said...

The VCR came on the scene in the mid 70's with it getting popular by late 70's early 80's.

Bitters said...

Hillary Duff for number two? Just throwing out a guess

Dan said...

Martika, Fergie and JLH were all on Kids Incorporated - all interesting answers.

Jane said...

I would put this at the early 80's that is when VCRs became more mainstream and "affordable".

MontanaMarriott said...

Stacy FERGIE Fergueson for the first one.

Bitters said...

Ahh I glossed over the part where they were in the same show/franchise. Great sleuthing on the Kids Inc

moussemaker said...

Fergie and Love Hewitt?

Boldblonde said...

Must be reason why Fergie turned to drugs.

Rosie Blue said...

Soleil moon Frye. Maybe not since not everybody remembers her from Punky Brewster but she did get out and remains wary of the industry. I think she may have a few stories.

Sarah said...

Fergie and JLH make sense. JLH came on the same year Fergie left (this fits the replacement comment in the blind).

hothotheat said...

Was DS one of the producers?

Boldblonde said...

This made me think of Brooke Shields for some reason. Any BI about her back the day?

Bitters said...

And the fact that Disney had its hand in this show (Kids Inc) doesn't surprise me

pkelly491 said...

Kids Incorporated

Fergie and JLH

Makes perfect sense. JLH's 2002 album was a decent success in Australia and New Zealand.

MontanaMarriott said...

Tommy Lynch is one of the creators and when you look at his IMDB resume it's all tween shows since then. Could he be the producer in question?

MontanaMarriott said...

The show essentially launched the careers of creators and producers Gary Biller and Thomas W. Lynch, who would go on to create The Secret World of Alex Mack and Romeo! among many other shows, leading the New York Times to call him "the David E. Kelley of 'tween TV".

OB said...

@Montana wasn't Lynch mentioned by Himmmm in one of his reponses to a recent blind?

SarahElizabeth said...

This is disgusting and these men should be in prison.

Glue said...

@ Rosie Blue - I remember Punky Brewster and always thought it odd that after that show, she kinda disappeared.

SDaly said...

Yes. Himmmmm mentioned Lynch the other day. Kids, Inc. was also filmed at Hollywood Center Studios, where the "Rocky Road" show discussed in the earlier blind was shot.

Need some sleuthing on who ran that studio.

MC98033 said...

If the show is Kids incorporated I don't think the first one is Fergie because it says she "made her career from the show" and that the second girl was "A list for much longer". Fergie is definitely higher on the list with a more rewarding career than JLH, and though she may have started out as a child star, her adult career was made singing with The Black Eyed Peas, not from the show (like Miley for instance).

MKL said...

@hothotheat- DS was 17 when the show began filming. So unless he was some prodigy, highly doubt he was involved in this one.

My.answer.is.xyz said...

Well...Kids Incorporated was adapted in Japan, and New Zealand while the original was seen in Germany, Iraq, UK, Australia, Iceland to name a few so that fits. So, I agree - Fergie and JLH as well as Lynch and Biller.

Crazy Floridian said...

Kids Incorporated makes sense with Fergie being the first mentioned and JLH being the second. Fergie went from the show to a girl group within like 2 years. Her wiki says: In April 2007, she gave an interview in which she admitted that she went on a sex and drugs spree when she turned eighteen, saying: "I have had lesbian experiences in the past. I won't say how many men I've had sex with—but I am a very sexual person."

I don't believe JLH ever had a nude scene and definitely had a good girl image back at the height of her popularity.

APB1223 said...

Kids Incorporated for the show. Fergie for the first star. Jennifer Love Hewitt for the second. Tommy Lynch for the producer - he still produces teen/tween shows, none of which I've heard of listed on IMDB, but one was a Nickelodeon show.

pkelly491 said...

Read this blind then listen to Martika's big hit "Toy Soliders", which featured several of her cast mates on Kids Incorporated, including Fergie and JLH.

Chilling

Crazy Floridian said...

The Black Eye Peas didn't get mainstream popular until like 2003 or 2004 and then Fergie was only in the group for a few years. Had solo success but not huge. Party of Five started in 1994 and then is still known even if she isn't still regularly working.

My.answer.is.xyz said...

Fergie also fits cuz she was pushed into a “different corner of the entertainment world” She joined the band Wild Orchid when she was 15-16.

Boldblonde said...

Wild orchid started in 1990 under a different name. So far it points to Fergie.

aanjheni said...

Jayzus H. Cryst. WTF is going on in our world that this stays under cover for so fucking long?

John Doe said...

Didn't Himmmmm drop clues about this same show and these same actresses in the blind about Heather O'Rourke last week?

Now would be a good time, but I doubt that these two actresses are going to come out. If they were serious about it they would have come out with their stories by now. I'm really surprised that none of the male actors who were kids on that show are talking either. Disappointing!

John Doe said...

The producer in this blind who's still making tween shows is Tom Lynch. He used to co-produce with Gary Biller back in the day. Two pedos who got away with it.

aanjheni said...

I am thinking this is early to mid 80s. Too early for Kids Inc

Krispyc said...

Most people who abuse drugs that heavily have been physically or sexually abused or both.

Undercover_LBD said...

I've long suspected that something like this happened to Fergie and was the foundation for all of her issues. Ugh. :(

John Doe said...

@aanjheni,

I believe that Enty chooses his clues purposefully and carefully. The bit about the VCR at the beginning of the blind is a clue to the time period. People had VCRs in their homes back in the 70s, but they were expensive and it wasn't until the early to mid 1980s that they became cheap enough that many working class people could afford to buy them.

Every disgusting thing I'm reading in these blinds lately seem to go back to the early 1980s. I used to think it was the best decade but now it seems like that was the time when the Satan the Devil was cast down from heaven to the Earth.

This show is definitely Kids Inc. The pilot was shot in 1983 and it went into production the following year.

Boo Hearne said...

PUNKY BREWSTER

You may or may not have read my comment last week about pulling my 10 year old out of the business as she started to get noticed. She debuted on a Sunday Night Movie with major stars. She was up for the role of Punky Brewster at the time I said, 'Enough!' My daughter's agent was trying to convince me to leave my job and life in NYC to move to LA where the sitcom was to be filmed. No way. I told my daughter that whomever ended up with the role would be Punky Brewster for the rest of her life. The young actress who landed it was from LA and her parents were in the business as well. There's no great mystery why she disappeared after it went off the air. One and done. I could elaborate but don't want to be petty. As the years rolled on my daughter very reluctantly admitted that I was right about that role. Once you're no longer 'adorable' they throw you to the wolves. Thank heaven my daughter didn't have to face all the criminal behavior those poor children did. Where were their mothers and fathers?! I watched my kid like a hawk.

Glue said...

Agree @John Doe. I always thought, "well, shit like this didn't happen during my childhood in the 80's." Boy oh boy, was I mistaken!!

BayAreaGirl said...

@aanjheni - I thought that too, until I came across this: https://www.wired.com/2010/06/0604vhs-ces/

While VHS first came to USA in 1977, they had to battle it out with Beta max until 1985 when JVC introduced VHS HQ and then Super VHS in 1987, resulting in victory for the VHS format. Interestingly: tech lore has it that the porn industry played a big role in that victory. Sony reportedly wouldn't let pornographic content be put on Betamax tapes, while JVC and the VHS consortium had no such qualms."

Fergie & JHL both fit. God this makes me sad.

High Energy Boy said...

The album makes me think of Alyssa Milano - huge in Japan. Not sure what else might fit, though she'd probably have outed this by now

Rosie Blue said...

I also thought about Alyssa Milano as well. I know her album was big in Europe and Japan. The blind talks about the boy costar being preyed upon. The little brother on the show had some issues as well I seem to remember? She also did that workout video called Teen Steam. Catchy title isn’t it. Double entendre.

Count Jerkula said...

Can we get some female pedo blinds? With all the pedo broad teachers raping their male students there is no way Hollywood isnt rife w/ broads who want to exert their power over innocent young boys and girls. Manhating Enty should give equal time to predatory women in Hollywood, straight and lez.

My.answer.is.xyz said...

The Disney Channel bought the rights in 1986. Jack Singer bought HCS in 1984.

pkelly491 said...

It's not Alyssa Milano - it's Kids Incorporated.

Interesting article about cast member Rahsaan Patterson, timeline doesn't really fit (he was 14-15ish during early seasons of Kids), but he could be changing details (and being intentionally vague) for a reason.

http://www.theroot.com/rahsaan-patterson-on-surviving-sexual-abuse-1790890912

aanjheni said...

@BayAreaGirl and @JohnDoe

I stand corrected. Late 80s and early 90s would have been the time. I remember our first VCR was so expensive and there wasn't much to watch! It would have been around 87 or 88.

I am going to have to go with either Mickey Mouse Club (it stays back when the show "first" aired which makes me think there was at least one other iteration of the show) or Kids Inc.

It has to be some kind of 'variety' type show, at least that is what I am thinking by the line "...start their own versions of the show."

Aris said...

It's not Soleil Moon Frye (Punky Brewster). She had lots of credits before Punky and has been working steadily since. She's been with her producer husband Jason Goldberg nearly 20 years and has 4 children.

wade-o-potatoface said...

Scroled through the cast list of Kids Inc. Other cast mates include:
Mario Lopez
Brittany Murphy
Jeff Cohen (Chunk from Goonies)
Scott Wolf



BayAreaGirl said...

@aanjheni - Kids inc. is definitely the show. Premiered in 1984. The article mentions that by 1987, 90% of American households had a VCR.

My.answer.is.xyz said...

He was born in ‘74 and started KI in ‘84

dunduhdunddun said...

This is definitely kids inc. i watched that show all the time as a kid. It kinda was like menudo you got older you left or were phased out. Martika and this guy named Jerry were the leads and he left and so did martika. It also had fergie, jennifer love hewitt and mario lopez played the drummer. I think eric balfour was on too. They play reruns now on the disney channel

JrSlims said...

@SDaly

Good catch. As the previous posts about Rocky Road/Hollywood Center Studios mentioned, Paul Reubens/Pee Wee Herman filmed his show there. He would be caught as part of a child pornography ring with Jeffrey Jones (both actors ironically were in Tim Burton's two first features) in 2001. I wonder if that ring is related to the one in this blind.

http://people.com/celebrity/pee-wee-actor-settles-kiddie-porn-case/

SDaly said...

Over the weekend, I was hopeful that all of this will come out, but now I think everyone, even the victims, have too much invested in keeping the system going and they will remain silent.

It's horrifying to believe.

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Glue said...

This is what happens when you read it too fast and don't check details like dates. That was an article back in October! So, not sure why it's popping up on my feed now.

Anyone else know something about this? ^^

Glitter said...

Glue: That article was from 2012. I wonder what came out about Romney. I don't remember anything. He was squeaky clean.

SDaly said...
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SDaly said...

In 1980, the Singer family, from Canada, purchased Hollywood Center Studios from Francis Ford Coppola.

John Doe said...

Please stop posting stories about that nasty demon lawyer. She and her daughter are over-the-top feminist hawks who look for every opportunity to promote and enrich themselves while diminishing the real issues of women who truly are victims.

I've watched them and observed what they do. The two of them are man-hating scum.

Glue said...

Comment deleted for you John Doe. /grin/

roxy said...

@Boo...

Soleil has done well for herself and seems happy. Perhaps she didn't want to stay in front of the camera plus she had some health things that were challenging for a young woman to deal with.

Lynn said...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nHnlCxeVDAo

Kids Inc
Fergie and JLH are both in Martika's video "Toy soldiers" kind of an awkward interview in the link above

SDaly said...

You can't judge a book by it's cover, but here is a picture of Larry Singer, who bought Hollywood Center Studios in 1980 and his family ran it until 2017.

Kimberly Davis said...

Enty..why don't you contact Ronan Farrow??? These stories are sooo much worse than Weinstein...What happens when one of your idols crashes & burns?? I went to an event the other night and was talking to some guy and I mentioned Geffen and I thought I would be bitch slapped.

Squid Bat said...

I haven't seen anyone mention "You Can't Do That on Television" yet... Alannis Morriset was a cast member on that show.

jessorella said...

Lisa Bonet (Cosby Show)?

roxy said...

@Kimberly Davis .... people don't like it when their sacred cows get slaughtered.

Gary Burnaska said...

Wondering when Kids Inc, was going to get a blind, seriously the entire title of the show literally screams WE DO CHILD PORN. How long until Demi Lovato and Selena Gomez are called to the witness stand I bet Ariana Grande and Jenette Mccurdy have seen some shit.

jes7o said...

Definitely Kids Inc. The pilot was direct to VHS in 1983 per Wikipedia. And HOLY SHIT. Give Martika's Toy Soldiers video a whirl if you have a minute. If that's not a thinly veiled song about the death of childhood, I don't know what is. Even as I kid I thought the video vs song didn't make much sense, but it does if the song is about what happened on that show. She says the song is about a friend battling cocaine addiction. Is the song about Fergie? Hmmmmmmmm.........

aanjheni said...

Maybe if we all email/Tweet/write/call some journalists, we can get this shit uncovered.

ceeq9 said...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nHnlCxeVDAo, wow, this angers me. she is in perpetual childhood, from being interrupted or messed with. l know a girl like this. I say girl, but she is a woman, and i remember one time returning to our old neighborhood where she still lived, they had the best house on the street, and l saw her playing in the street with the younger kids, like we did when we were in grade school many years before. i know she was messed with because she told me when we were both in the 6th grade that it was a her family member. l never forgot the look in her eyes when i saw her again playing with those kids. you could hear the sadness in them, thats how dead her eyes had become. hearing all this shit about abusing children hurts, you know, when you've personally been touched by it and seen others harmed by it. this has to stop!

chip whitley said...

Definitely JLH for #2. Her wiki page talks about how successful her pop album was in Japan. It even says it made her a pop star.

I'll go along with all of you and say Fergie for #1. How sad. I hope they do decide to come out and tell their stories.

John Doe said...

@ Glue, You shouldn't have deleted your post on my account. I was just venting. We are all entitled to our opinions. :)

I'm not a fan of Kathy Griffin, but I watched what the Allred's did to her after she and the daughter had that falling out. A feminist lawyer who truly believes in women's rights and freedom of expression (as in that particular case) would have behaved differently with her client, and even if they fall out the lawyer shouldn't be posting negative stuff about her client on the internet. The daughter was just using Kathy. She thought it would be an opportunity for her to gain money and fame for herself by going after Trump. Kathy should have sued her. Earlier, there was another lawsuit (involving the mother) with a group of women who claimed that they were groped and harrassed by Trump. This is the same woman who rounded up a bunch of women and used exactly the same MO to try to takedown Herman Cain's political campaign during the GOP primaries in 2011. Here she is again---with exactly the same MO yet again today trying takedown yet another politician with a group of women who claimed that he harrassed them donkey years ago. It is very interesting that this woman and her daughter keep showing up at exactly these moments with exactly the same ridiculous schemes. The women will lose the case because they cannot provide any solid evidence that their claims are true. But that isn't important to Allred as long as she collects her fee and destroys the careers of her adversaries.

I'm not saying that women (or men) who were sexually harrassed shouldn't get justice ---which is what we are talking about on this thread---but whenever the Allreds get involved in a case its always about them and their political agenda, never about the women (or men) who they claim to represent.

Gloria has had two unhappy and unsuccessful marriages, which probably explains her and her daughter's rabid hatred of men---in particular, men who are wealthy black celebrities and Republican politicians. And she always try to drum up exactly the same type of political drama right before an election. Research the Allreds. It is very obvious to most observers that this is what they do.

The mother is currently under investigation by the California Bar for one of her schemes after being sued by one of her clients.

October said...

oh dear God, some ppl have way too much time on their hands. Hello, Gossip site. Go back to 4chan for conspriacy theories.

JRENEA1118 said...

Britney Murphy also fits the second girl but she has already pasy

Land Manatee said...

So glad you brought up the female school predators. It truly is an epidemic that is not getting enough attention.

The SP Sula Review said...

Yeah, I just threw up in my mouth.

These people are so fucking gross and there are so many of them. I think we're gonna need a bigger bonfire. And more agent orange.

aanjheni said...

@SP - I always thought that after they are found guilty, they are tied to a stake in the center of town and every man, woman, and child who has been hurt by a predator can take a dull exacto knife and carve 1 square inch of flesh until they are dead.

Yep, my rage makes me want to go medieval on these disgusting waste of mammals.

Itttt said...

Although doubtful either of these two victims will read/see this:

If not now, when? At some point we all have to stand up, draw the line, and say enough is enough. The world is changing, glacially slowly at first, but the momentum is growing...and the scurrying cockroaches that have remained hidden in the shadows for so long are now being exposed and will slowly but surely be rooted out and exterminated until hopefully the entire infestation is annihilated.

It's now or never - so speak up and help end this cycle. And never stop fighting until the fight is done. Sure, the lines a cliche from a film that was terribly inaccurate historically, but it doesn't make it any less inspiring

https://youtu.be/eOuZddmhzko

A Galley said...

I used to love this show - this is disgusting but I hope Fergie and JLH speak out. Thesepedophile stories are sickening. The Blind about Heather O'Rorke was so disturbing - it was really upsetting. I hope all of these pedophiles are outed and brought to justice. I commend the victims for speaking out - hopefully this gives others the strength to come forward too.

The SP Sula Review said...

@aanjheni

I'm on board with that scenario.

Corey Feldman was right. They're everywhere. Maybe after this purge, they will change the law so that there is no statute of limitations on child predation prosecutions. I know that I talk about burning them, but part of me really wishes that someone would just put these sociopaths out of our misery. They're a cancer and a plague.

Count Jerkula said...

What i find so horrible about female predators is thay if they get pregnant, the victim has no say, and can be on the hook for child support.

A year or 2 ago a case was floating around the net about a woman who committed statutory rape of a 16y/o boy, had the baby, waited until the statute of limitations was up, then went after him for support, and the state went after him to reimburse what they paid out in welfare. Froze his accts, suspended his license, fucked his life, because he was a victim of a predator. Doesnt fit the narrative of "men are the only ones capable of being evil" so it didnt get much press, and certainly no one trying to change the laws.

AngryLiberalKTS. said...

I couldn't afford a VCR until after they won the Beta war. Haha, maybe early 90's before they were in every damn store you went to. Maybe I'm cheap..

Guesser said...

Jeff Cohen was on Kids Incorporated? Very Interesting.

AngryLiberalKTS. said...

I had some friends who had VCR's in mid-80's I believe it cost about $600. People who had VCR's were very cool. No one was allowed to touch VCR. Seems funny now but VCR's really were not in every house until mid-90's

Elizabeth S. said...

I agree with you. Everything Gloria and her Mini me do is about promoting themselves. They are without principles.

FOS said...

I tweeted Ronan

The SP Sula Review said...

Exactly Elizabeth. John Doe is spot on about those two. They traffic in political victimhood. Funny how Allred tells a Polanski accuser the SoL has already passed, but a Moore accuser still has a case? They're nothing but parasites.

https://twitter.com/Marianne_M_B/status/930211516623740928

aanjheni said...

@FOS So did I!

The SP Sula Review said...

@FOS, maybe that was a good idea. Ronan has been really good about getting victims to come forward and talk about this. I tend to be suspect of famous children who use their family name, but I think Ronan is an exception and is actually quite talented in his own right. I'm rooting for him.

Cee Kay said...

"Oh, one time about a decade ago, the second of our two victims in this blind was making noises about going public. One of the foreign child porn producers she had met one of her "exchange tours" arranged for her to make a record. Although it was released here, it was only a moderate success. In the country overseas though it sold millions of copies making her a huge star in that country. The company spent millions on advertising to ensure the sales and that deal has kept her quiet until now."

My heart breaks for the little girl this was, but the woman she became is spectacularly shitty. "Okay, make me a star and I'll shut up!" What the actual FUCK?

pkelly491 said...

I'm still stuck on Toy Soldiers, the Martika song, which is in my opinion one of the most underrated brilliant pop songs of all time.

Supposedly the song is about a friend with cocaine addiction, but if you listen to it in the context of this blind it's chilling

Martika used the kids from Kids Incorporated for the Kids Choir in the song: which included Fergie, Rahsaan Patterson, Renee Sands, and possibily JLH as well. Them singing "Won't you come out and play with me" is so creepy knowing this blind.

And the lyrics are supposedly about drug addiction - but could easily be construed as about an abusive relationship or an abusive experience. The theme is having something in your life that you "bought in to" in some way, that is completely controlling your every move and in the end making you "fall down", like a kid playing with a toy soldier. Martika, being the oldest of the group, likely felt some guilt for the situation if this blind is true, whether or not she was being abused as well.

It might be a fantasy, and I am probably being over analytical but could this song have been a cry for help from the entire cast?

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monteverde said...

All of these blinds recently have made me anxious to even read cdan anymore, but the truth needs to come out.

And something else: I don't give a shit anymore about whom Weinstein asked for a shower, when you had the option to say no - this shit is thousands of times worse, yet nobody is coming forward? The victims, the enablers, the silent collaborators - all are fucking silent, so this shit can continue? I'm disgusted! Where is the fucking 'female empowerment' brigade? They don't care about defenceless kids? Come fucking forward already so this abuse of kids stops!

BayAreaGirl said...

Everyone agrees that these pedo stories are awful & that teenagers can’t consent to sex with 30 yr old men. What does it say about our society when people are still supporting willing to vote for Roy Moore? I just came across this tonight:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/locals-were-troubled-by-roy-moores-interactions-with-teen-girls-at-the-gadsden-mall

He was banned from the mall for badgering teenage girls! One supporter called the allegations “a sign of the times”? You mean pedophilia was ok 40 years ago? FFS lady.

Mzfatneck said...

+1

doood said...

the betamax versus vhs war was won because vhs tapes were first to hit 4 hours and be able to record entire nfl games. naught to do with pr0n.

Mike said...

@count

As far as sexual abuse or quid pro pros from women in power, I could see that happening, but not just flat out "come over here and eat my pussy if you want this script I've got on the coffee table". More like wining and dining, going through a charade of a romance that might end in bed. Female casting agents probably don't want to believe they are taking advantage of their power, and it's hard for them to fool themselves about that if they are having sex with minors. Not saying it has never happened, but it's probably rare.

But, all powerful women in the industry must know about the routine sexual abuse of minors. Even now, they're trying to make this a #metoo feminist thing so that abused children don't take away their spotlight. And some female casting agents and managers actually send a child to a casting call with known predators. This whole rotten industry, men and women, have kept quiet.

The schoolteachers we're reading about are doing it because they are attention or sex junkies that were suddenly cut off from their ready supply of attention and dick they were getting in college, IMO. Now they're surrounded by high school boys. They're not trading sex for grades.

Glue said...

@John Doe
No worries. I'm not a fan of Allred nor her offspring. I agree with you, what she did to KG (and other women) was wrong on so many levels.

I removed the link because after going back and actually perusing the article, it didn't have much relevance. The article mentioned Jerry Brown and I thought there might be a connection, but in reality, it was a self-promotion for Allred.

I don't get offended easily and I'm very open to others' thoughts/opinions. I was raised to believe that in every interaction we can all teach AND learn something from one another.



aanjheni said...

Just heard this information about Tom Sizemore on the set of "Natural Born Killers"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2017/11/13/tom-sizemore-accused-molesting-11-year-old-actress-set-2003/860308001/

Mrs Meat said...

Interesting that so many people say VHS was too expensive/unavailable until the 90s. I lived in a small English town in the 80s and we got a VHS when a video rental shop opened in our small town. That would've been around 1983. We weren't rich or flashy, so it can't have been crazy expensive.

Regarding the article itself, I hope these guys come forward. I was molested a few times as a child by various predators (mostly teenage boys) and it was the guilt that poleaxed me. Even as young as 4 the body can respond sexually and even if you don't want it, there's a sick thrill that makes you feel that you WERE complicit. You have no idea how you're being manipulated and that can stay with you for a long, long time. Maybe forever. That's why people don't come forward.

Sexual arousal became a cue for phobic response with me. It too a lot of self-therapy to overcome that automatic response of 'arousal = sick, sick, sick fear and guilt'. A lot of that self-therapy involved sleeping around. It was code for Taking Control: Being In Charge. I didn't realise that's what I was doing for a long time.

If your response to abuse was to never grow up or take responsibility then knowing that people are still abusing others won't make you feel bad for not trying to stop it by coming forward. Being famous makes a lot of people act like perpetual children.

Mike said...

@ Mrs. Meat

Same experience with VCRs--1983. At this point they were commonly available where TVs were sold. I think we bought one for around $400 US that year. Maybe some people didn't get them right away because they didn't see the point.

AngryLiberalKTS. said...

Yes! Porn was huge on video.

Anandamide said...

I'm not sure if this has already been posted, but this link: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hollywood-center-studios-20170421-story.html has more info on the ownership of Hollywood Center Studios in the 1980s. Francis Ford Coppola bought it in 1980 and named it Zoetrope Studios, and it was sold in bankruptcy auction in 1984 to Canadian real estate developer Jack Singer for over $12M. His company was Studio management Services Inc.

It appears most of their business was leasing out the space to independent contractors. Smart business and limits their liability in cases of oh idk mass child abuse.

BayAreaGirl said...

@dood, my dad loves football too, but you can't monetize your bootleg NFL games. They're only permissible under the fair use exception of copyright law, meaning: only for personal consumption. However, you call sell original videos that you make yourself, and porn has proven to be a monetary powerhouse. They were also pioneers in monetizing distribution on the internet. Sorry, I'm a nerd. I'll stop now.

James said...

Wow I really hope this is made up reading all of this even when I read it last night just brought me down really fucking sad

supercreepsandscarymonsters said...

Makes this episode even creepier. I couldn't even get past the song.

Kids Incorporated- "The Cover Up"

https://youtu.be/b3BYGuyBKU8

aanjheni said...

OMG what a video. I have never seen Kids Inc. before and surprisingly, did my kids. I only watched the opening song and my heart was breaking.

Were those songs similar? In retrospect, it was like the (dialogue and) music would telegraph the entire intent of the show.

I may have graduated in the early 80s but really consider myself a child of the 70s. Looking back at some of the pop singers I loved, I wonder how many of them were abused as well. The 80s certainly doesn't hold sway over abuse but damn, technology made it much easier for it to be shared. :(

aanjheni said...

Just found this old item about JLH

http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2012/04/jennifer-love-hewitt-still-says-no-to.html

Urthor said...

https://singersroom.com/content/2012-02-25/rahsaan-patterson-a-victim-of-sexual-assualt-records-anthem-for-rape-abuse-incest/#ixzz1nYUpopyV

Apparently a former member of Kids Incorporated is now an ambassador for a child abuse/rape support network. More pieces of the puzzle come together.

Elef said...

@ urthor
Wow, that's a find. It is So sad. Rahsaan Patterson is an American singer and actor, best known for portraying "The Kid" on the popular 1980s television show Kids Incorporated (from wiki). He was cast at the age of 10 in the year 1984 (he is born in Jan. 1974). He says that he was sexually assaulted when he was 6-years-old and wasn’t able to share it with his family until he was 18-years-old. Now he is using his art talents as a celebrity ambassador for the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network (RAIN), the nation’s largest anti-sexual violence organization.Patterson is openly gay.
Apparently, the children who were alone and their parents weren't constantly with them were a target from pedophiles. If you want your child to become an actor from this young age you have to be next to him ALL THE TIME. I consider this obvious but it seems that it isn't. Many parents like Feldman's and Haim's left their children alone at the POP SODA parties and many other places while other children were never alone.

Elef said...

@ aanjheni
Wow!
it must be JLH then.. They have been through so much, we literally no absolutely nothing about a person's struggles.

The article you found was posted in April 2012 and it says:
For as long as Jennifer Love Hewitt has been legal there have been producers lining up to get her to go naked for a movie. And for just as long, Jennifer has said no.

This blind item says: Our second A lister was kind of a replacement for out first victim. She was also about ten when she started on the show and started being molested and assaulted on an almost daily basis. She also says it is one of the reasons she ever refused to get naked or topless for a movie. It triggers her to see any kind of camera when she is topless or naked. That is the only way they would film her when she was a kid. She has never really relished being in the public eye but always said she would work enough to never have to work again and she has pretty much done that.

Frosty said...

Time line works for #2 A lister.

JLH was born 1979 - started on Kids Inc 1989 - i.e. 10 years old.

I had no idea she had gone through this ... I hope she blows this lid off on this.

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