Friday, February 16, 2018

Four For Friday - Hiding In Her Closet

It is not that long ago that this singer was A+ list. The songs from his band were everywhere. They seemingly came out of nowhere to blanket our airwaves. It was long enough ago that MTV still showed some videos and numerous from the group were in full rotation. The singer always pretended to be pious and religiously pure whatever that means.

It was about that time, long before I started the site that I ran into a friend I had not seen in ages. Just randomly we started talking where she went to college and something clicked and I said something to the extent of the singer went to school there. She said yes and then said she had a story to tell. Something you have to know about this college at that time when she and the singer attended.

Female students being allowed to wear pants was earth shattering. It was still frowned upon. Hair had to be long. No public displays of affection. If you can imagine a college where the Duggar family would feel comfortable, this was it.

There was a big scandal at the school involving the singer. Apparently there was a party off campus. Booze was there and of course consumption of that was not allowed at the school. Our singer got one of the female students drunk and raped her. He picked her because he knew she wouldn't report it. Daughter of a preacher. Drinking. Premarital sex. All of that would equal getting expelled and disowned from her family.

A month later the singer raped another student after getting her drunk. The same reasons again, she said nothing.

Even though the women didn't report him, they did share the information between each other. Just prior to Christmas break that year, the singer showed up at a party late. He found a student who was drunk and grabbed her and dragged her into a bedroom. She started fighting him and he ripped her clothes off and tried to rape her. She screamed and people came in and pulled the singer from her. He didn't care. He knew she wouldn't report him. He was wrong. It turns out she wasn't a student. She went to a different school. She lived in the town though and her father owned the bank that held many loans the school had taken out.

She told her parents who told officials. Apparently they tried to victim shame for all of about 30 seconds before the dad said his bank would call in every loan the school owed and send out a letter to all of the clients of the bank explaining exactly why they were doing so. Many of the clients of the bank were donors to the school and did business with the school. School officials went looking for him and found him in the closet of his girlfriend. Yes, he also had a girlfriend. She was expelled because she was naked and he was naked. 

63 comments:

Florin said...

Scott Stapp from Creed?

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T. W. said...

The school sounds like Liberty University. If you know anyone wanting to attend tell them to run like the wind.

cheesegrater15 said...

Douchebag from Creed? Even though he went to Florida State. I feel like I know the name of the school, but I can't remember it. If you went to a superconservative Christian university like I did, you'll know all the other schools and their horror stories.

sandybrook said...

Enty grew up in Texas someone who went to Baylor or A&M? Has to be a religious college even TCU.

T. W. said...

@Florin - I think you got it!

Scott Stapp attended Lee College and then ended up at Florida State and formed Creed while there.

Lee is associated with Church of God denomination, which is Pentecostal. Heaven forbid a woman wear pants!

T. W. said...

@cheesegrater15, the school was Lee College

T. W. said...

Some Russians got indicted for spreading false information and interfering with the election. Can we have a new election?

A dumb idiot said...

Haha: https://theleekdotcom.wordpress.com/2012/04/17/scott-stapp-awarded-honorary-masters-degree-in-church-music/

T. W. said...

@A dumb idiot - thank you for the laugh of the year. This will be hard to top.

CuriousTex said...

It's actually Lee University:

ps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_University

hothotheat said...

Isn't he mentally ill now?

Kendrick Schroder said...

I have pretty dopey musical tastes, but I draw the line at Creed. And who would have predicted in the 1970s that in another twenty years the guy from Iron Butterfly's voice would have a decisive influence.

cheesegrater15 said...

This whole story is giving me college flashbacks.

CuriousTex said...

Is this the bank?

https://www.pathwaycredit.com/

spacecowboy78 said...

Knew it was Stapp from the first paragraph alone. And yes @ Kendrick, every terrible song he performed on sounded like an Iron Butterfly impression set to music.

Beezy said...

Baylor, A&M, TCU, and TLU are not THAT crazy conservative though. Women have been able to wear pants at these schools for quite a long time...

Steve Jones said...

Ed Kowalczyk from live? They were super religious too

NachoCheese said...

Good on that Dad. I wish everyone reacted that way!

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Glitter said...

Texas A & M is not a church affiliated school. TCU, Baylor, SMU are.

AngryLiberalKTS. said...

Utah is very Mormon, i would wouldn't last 3 seconds

AngryLiberalKTS. said...

*wouldn't

aseay said...

@sandybrook It wouldn't be Baylor, TCU, or SMU, they haven't had strict dress codes for quite a long while. I'm voting for BYU or something similar

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pkelly491 said...

Ryan Tedder went to Oral Roberts...

pkelly491 said...

But I don't think it is Tedder, he would be too recent I think. Yea, probably Stapp.

ER said...

I'm from a town close to Lee and had a ton of friends that went there. I've also heard this story from numerous sources. Lee has issues with covering up scandals.

However, Lee has never had a strict dress code. Perhaps they did in the 60s or 70s, but the rules are fairly comparable to the large state school where I attended college. Women can wear pants and there are no rules on hair length. Dating and touching the opposite sex are allowed.

Drinking is prohibited. Students sign a covenant before the year starts, so they know what rules they are breaking.

Lee has problems, but Enty's description is way off base. For a Christian school that is still religious (compared to loosely affiliated schools like Princeton), Lee is extremely liberal.

Florin said...

@ER How liberal was it 25 years ago, though?

Kikibunny said...

I live in FL part time and they are still playing creed and nickelback on the radio....god help us all

overit122 said...

This happened over 10 yrs ago, so no

Lisa said...

LOL at the BYU comment- they owe money to no one. My inlaws are LDS. While I TOTALLY disagree with most if not all of their practices, I know that that organization is debt free so it doesn't fit the blind.

And my MIL wears pants to church so again, it doesn't fit.

Short Schrift said...

It sounds like Bob Jones University.

beebopcowboy said...

the lead singer from Creed

Brayson87 said...

Not only did he rape music, he preyed on women too. Oh he's going to love the afterlife, they play his songs nonstop where he's heading.

ER said...

@Florin It was the same as now. I was in high school in the 90s. Several friends wanted to go to college there, so I was on campus regularly for concerts and events. There was no dress code.

ER said...

@Lisa It's Lee University in Tennessee. It's located in a very, very small town. The comments about local donors and banks is very accurate.

Lee also dramatically expanded their campus in the 90s.

BUT the information about pants, hair length and dating is wildly inaccurate. You could say those things about Bob Jones University, Pensacola Christian College or even Liberty University (at the time), but Lee was much more mainstream.

Overbrook71 said...

Good gracious Texas A&M has never been a religious school; TCU is purely secular. I suppose it could be Baylor, but this is more along the lines of an Oral Roberts or Liberty or BYU

Gator said...

Scott Stapp was my first guess.

Gator said...

BTW, you can't legally call in a loan because some student of the borrower tried to rape your daughter. That part is bullshit, but I wouldn't be surprised if Stapp did these things.

MichiganMama59 said...

sounds like a typical night at most universities nowadays.

T. W. said...

@CuriousTex Yes. They used to call themselves Lee College.

T. W. said...

@Gator. I get your point. The bank may have been banking on the school not knowing this. Or the bank may have had some clause about calling in the loans if the school engaged in illegal activity.

Sierra said...

A classic quote - "A sex tape of Stapp and Kid Rock receiving oral sex from a group of women on a tour bus in 1999 became public in 2006. In an interview about the 45-minute video, Stapp said he did not believe oral sex was actual sex."

Lyla said...

The no pants and long hair make me think this is an evangelical school in midwest - Indiana or maybe Iowa?

KGB said...

He didn't believe that oral sex was actual sex? A very Clintonesque approach.

"Suckin` dudin` count!" -- Old Arkansas proverb

Kno Won Uno said...

Don’t go to twitter. The bots are out in force.

J said...

Blackmailing for justice? Wow, people really hate justice.

Erin said...

Well I have been living in the stone age - how did I miss that Enty is a Texan? I am curious - who all here is from Texas? I am!

Jaime said...

I went to Baylor...definitely not BU. I even was known to wear pajama pants to school back in the day. What was i thinking? Dreadful of me.

My first guess was Creed guy, Stapp, as well. Or Trent Reznor of NIN. ;-) Kidding.

Imagine Dragons is too recent of a popular band, but aren't the group members Morman? Makes me think BYU (saying this w/o any research or googling).

Adrian Zmed said...

Biggest slime ball in business I ever dealt with was a Bob Jones grad. Bigwig in many companies. Has a very big time job even today. Fired at one point from a big time job at McDonald's for boning his secretary on his desk and someone walked in.

Even today he goes to "Christian" colleges to lecture young business majors on how to stay holy in the godless world of US capitalism.

Xpensive Hobutt said...

Gonorrah, or "green drip," is a painful venereal disease. Its diagnosis, which involves jamming a (in my case, long) wooden qtip up one's dick, is even worse.

Lisa said...

That makes much more sense. I know Enty tends to fudge details.

Mango said...

I googled "Scott Stapp bio" in order to see what college he attended and a results box popped up which indicated that his net worth is $400,000.

That's chump change in the celeb world.

PotPourri said...
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PSDoctorPS said...

Sounds like Creed douche. Why not out this? Wouldn’t there be a police report from the last girl? And I’d like to take a moment to praise that Dad and throwing down whatever gauntlet he had to make everyone grow a spine and do the right God damn thing for once in their holy soulless lives. Bravo, Dad, and Bravo everyone who helped. May the ladies who felt they couldn’t tell their parents then feel strength and Peace for having endured multiple attacks to their humanity without the support so helpful to survive such cruelty and hate.

OKC Teacher said...

@Erin-I thought the same thing about Enty! I want to know what part he’s from, also......

PotPourri said...

LeTourneau University is a private, religious university and would not surprise me if it was that in Longview, Texas...

Jeweled Skye said...

From IMDB on Stapp "Later, he tried to impress his dad by attending Lee University in Tennessee. He was caught smoking marijuana and was expelled."

Court b said...

+1,000,000,000

Unknown said...

Enty is from the East coast, but he spent time at Texas A&M at some point.
I currently live in TX, btw, but still a Chicago girl at heart.

Unknown said...

Enty didn't grow up in Texas; he's from the East coast.

He did spend some time at Texas A&M though.

Elizabeth S. said...

A&M is not a religious school. Plenty of drinking and sex going on there. It's my alma mater.

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