Scientologists In Haiti - Pictures And Activities
Do you want to know what all those Scientology "Ministers" are doing on the ground in Haiti? Well, I am about to tell you.
Injured Haitians line up to get healed. Unfortunately I don't think the Haitian definition of healing their injuries is quite the same as the Scientologist version of healing.
The "church" members are using a process called assist. What that means is they are touching the patient and with that touch the patient is supposed to get better. I know, I know you are thinking the same as me. If you ever break a leg or have an injury just find Tom Cruise and let him touch you. With his level he might be able to just look at you and heal you. I also guess it doesn't work to make you taller. Just saying.
A volunteer named Silvie told Agent France Presse that because of the healing, "a 22-year-old student Oscar Elweels, whose right leg had been amputated below the right knee, now had feeling in his left leg - which was severely bruised and swollen." Is there some reason why he wouldn't have feeling in the left leg? How does touching him help with that?
Let her explain.
"One hour ago he had no sensation in his left leg, so I explained the method to him, I touched him and after a while he said 'now I feel everything.' Otherwise they might have had to amputate his other leg."
A real doctor had this to say.
"I didn't know touching could heal gangrene." Well apparently it can and I don't know why we didn't think to send Scientologists everywhere. Just let them touch you and you will be healed. It is amazing.
52 comments:
Ugh.
A simple touch could never heal Tommy of his crazy.
I also guess it doesn't work to make you taller. Just saying.
LMFAO! Best laugh I've had this year. And last year, for that matter.
How those Scientologist Hollywood droids don't realize that they are in a CULT is beyond me.
preying on people at the lowest depths of their misery....
i don't know how they live with themselves.
This is so wrong on so many levels.
@nancer, I don't think they are preying on the Haitians. What they are do is generating internal propaganda to keep milking the lower level dweebs.
Very embarassing. Bad enough it's a cult religion; but any religion should not be using this as an "opportunity" to convert...should just be about helping others. The yellow t-shirts make me think this is more a Marketing & Recruiting activity than anything. Sick, sick, sick.
Very embarassing. Bad enough it's a cult religion; but any religion should not be using this as an "opportunity" to convert...should just be about helping others. The yellow t-shirts make me think this is more a Marketing & Recruiting activity than anything. Sick, sick, sick.
He probably would have copped to the Lingbergh kidnapping to get the crazies the eff out of his face.
To give these people such false hope after all they have been through is despicable.
every one needs massage in Haiti!
i know people drinking his own urine to care his cancer(he takes a real medicine also)
OMG I don't know if I can read this.
My blood pressure had been doing so good lately...
Wow, I could have spared myself four back surgeries before the age of 33 and just joined Scientology for my healing. Boy, do I feel like an idiot.
*face palm*
This isn't funny. These Scientologists are merely manipulating the Haitians in the mist of their extreme trauma.
What little respect I had for John and Kelly just left. They'er now on my KatE and Tom S##t list.
Oh and Will and Jada best be careful as I'm watching you all too.
Honestly you guys, this makes me just want to cry. Its one of the most... I just dont know what to say.
To me, as a non-believer, it is so offensive. But I guess its the same principle behind praying for people - that it will actually help with the healing process
As an American, this is totally embarrassing. It's bad enough we allow them to exist here (i know freedom blah blah blah), but everyone else in the world knows they're from here. And this is the help we send? Again, Im embarrassed!!!
here's the thing:
WHO LET THEM IN THERE??!!? Someone is allowing them to set up their fucktard signs (volunteer ministers, gag me) and have access to patients. WHO??
Or is it just so chaotic that anyone can walk in and do anything?
Oh, and:
apparently the touch is so powerful it can go right through latex gloves.
I once went to a J. Hubbard birthday bash held by the Washington, DC Scientologists and found them to be interesting, though highly delusional. Hilariously enough it was held at the Skydome Lounge in Crystal City that looked an awful lot like a spaceship.
That said, as an NP I’d love to know how their healing methods have greater rates of success than that of traditional medicine.
It looks like the lady in the middle pic could use some of that healing touch. She looks like a zombie.
I hope the Haitians use some of their voodoo (official religion) on those scientologist sorry, publicity seeking asses!
With all due respect, is John Travolta not aware that if this really worked, his son Jett would be alive today?
I feel so, so sorry for the people who fall for this rigmarole. They must really be devoid of hope if they believe this bullshit.
This honestly just sickens me beyond comprehension. Instead of legitimate medical care they're getting these charlatans "touching" them to cure them.
And what's the reason that they'll give for the "touch" not working in, oh say, 3 seconds (I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt here) later, and the victim (of both Co$ and the earthquake) ending up dying because of lack of care?
The first one who says they died because they were actually a SP (I think that's the term, supressive person) deserves to be exposed to something virulent, incurable except through modern medicine, and allowed only "touch" therapy.
Lets see how that works.
I hope the Haitians at least get some bottled water or food from this. You guys are right, it IS embarrassing.
They did this at this rehab place. Here's how it goes;
"feel my hands"
"yes"
(moves hands)
"feel my hands"
"yes"
(moves hands)
"feel my hands"
Etc....
It's pointless, but they really believe its some miracle cure for anything.
This just makes me feel stabby.
I just feel bad for the Haitians. Most probably can barely communicate with the doctors and they go to these quacks, get felt up, told they should feel better soon. As a result they delay getting treatment, minor infections will become major infections and what was once easy to treat will become difficult to treat and use up medicine that could go elsewhere.
Its an evil practice and I wish the press would do their job and expose this kind of blatent mistreatment. If a non-cult "doctor" did this kind of crap they would be tripping over themselves for the "exclusive" while searching for the victims. Because the cult is involved only a few are covering it and most not very well.
Net result - Scientology looks like it is helping people while actually hurting people. Good PR means potential converts as the goal isn't to covert Haitians, no money in that. The goal is to convert the people that hear about their "good" work.
What really pisses me off about this is that these morons are not only taking advantage of people desperately in need, but they are taking up valuable resources - ie shelter, food and water, that these people desperately need. If Co$ really wanted to make a difference, they would have donated money to one of the many orgs that are equipped to deal with emergencies - ie Red cross, etc. Donate $$ so these legitimate agencies can get the right items in to the country.
Sweet Jesus, these Scientologists are all a bunch of bat-shit crazy morons. I wish their mothership would just come for them already. Or that old Tommy would start passing out the Kool-Aid amongst their group. I would imagine that there are a lot of relief agencies, medical personal, and legitimate organizations that would like to kick their sorry asses out of the country.
Can you imagine how much these boobs are getting in the way of real relief efforts, not to mention using up valuable supplies like food and water for themselves.
I've got to stop reading these reports. It's really agitating me.
Auuuugggghhh, I rad it after all!
Bleeeeeccchhh. Ptui. Ptui. Send it back...send it back...
...that is, *read* it after all...
@ carrie l:
my son recently "got religion" (some offshoot baptist thing) and informed me that i wouldn't have needed back surgery (or the hip, knee or shoulder) if MY faith had been strong enough.
that comment scared the hell out of me. some basic fundamentalist religions believe in faith healing, but what the scios are doing does not come under that heading. not surprised they are there, it was only a matter of time, but the poor haitians! they may fall for this crap, vodou and santeria involves a lot of "hands on" rituals, too.
and i totally agree, it's all for publicity.
If their Touch is so Amazing and Healing, why don't they heal all those Amputees?
If this is a legit religion, it should work. Oh, but not to be discriminatory, I also offer this challenge to ANY religion.
I really want to see a limb regrown from faith, prayer and talks with Jesus/Xenu/Buddha/Isaiah/Madonna/Oprah (insert name here). But there are a couple hundred Vets and land mine kids (or heck, cancer kids) outside of Haiti who could also use this 'healing MAGIC'....
So, Ok...I am just gonna sit back here and wait for the magic to start....
So obviously Tom does not "touch himself" because if he did, Katie would have a much happier smile.
I cannot understand why they are even there.
I agree with you C Latte-I believe in the power of prayer. I also believe in the power of using the resources that God has given you-medicine, therapy, etc etc. This So Called Church, they disgust me. They need to leave and let the real Doctors, Nurses and other legitimate volunteers do their thing.
And by the way-just a quick thank you to the men and women in the US Navy and Marines who have recently returned from a 6 month deployment and are now headed to Haiti to provide construction assistance and Medical Care. To your families-Thank you.
I hope that the doctor who made the last comment in the article was being sarcastic.
You know, in other churches, they ex-communicate Ministers who "touch" people... Just saying...
so if it's so powerful, why didn't John heal his child of the seizure disorder? sorry if that's a mean thing to say, because I feel bad for what he went through.
Enty, I love your posts and I love your taste in actors. Too many great, great actors are totally disregarded -- and surely don't make nearly the $$ they are really worth. But keep promoting them and maybe they will!!!!
This makes me sick. Those poor people need real doctors, and real medicine. Ugh.
I do not usually "preach" or even talk about religion, but to those of you equating this quackery to other religions are way off base. And to pose a challenge to any religion to "heal the sick": it has been done, over and over. Miracles have and do happen. Whether you deny they exist or not, there have been many documented miraculous recoveries. However, I think that it is a shame that they are, like someone else said, taking up valuable space that the Red Cross/others could be using, and possibly delaying real medical treatment.
chihuahuense - i am honestly curious - why would you say we cant compare schientology touch healing to other types of faith healing?
As for how legitimate other types of faith healing are, its also been proven that praying for people has NO effect... it just matter whose studies you chose to believe in.
I didn't say don't compare scientology to touch healing and other types of faith healing. I said they shouldn't be compared to other religions--meaning I think they are playing with people in a way that other religions don't. I know, I know but here is my logic:
I don't believe in ANY religion where a person or person says "come over here, let me touch you and BAM!! you are healed!" There are many non-scientology religions that do that, and I think that they are preying on desperate people who have tried (or maybe haven't) everything and are SO wanting a cure. I think this is fuckery because it always boils down to money. Either making that person pay to be healed or that person is in on the game, next thing you know they are healed and all the other people are amazed and open their wallets.
That being said, I do believe in the power of prayer and I do believe that God can heal the sick and those who traditional medicine can not heal. Funny thing, is that most of the time this doesn't happen on tv with a 1-800 running along the bottom with a "donate here" sign. Or in Haiti, with a bunch of "new followers" with deep pockets.
Also there might be studies that "prove" that prayer doesn't work, but I have seen nothing that says that BELIEVING in the power of prayer (when the believer is the patient) equals a negative outcome.
And now I see why I don't usually talk about religion...I don't make my points very well. :/
Hahaha, I think you made your point very well! I think the power of believing is pretty darn strong too. Otherwise placebos wouldnt work!
Hahaha, I think you made your point very well! I think the power of believing is pretty darn strong too. Otherwise placebos wouldnt work!
These people are lunatics, but at least everyone knows it.
What linnea said. Faith can help heal, it just should be a supplement to proper medical care. (IMO)
chihuahuense, it is hard to figure out how to talk about it, isn't it? I know there's a difference between missionaries/believers who truly do good, and those who do bad in the name of religion, I just don't know how to quantify it.
These Scientologists are so scary....their new commercials are so cool and hip and really go after asking about one's identity...you're not just this and you're not just that, but you can be this....I thought the commercial was so cool and then at the end saw it was for Scientology and really felt scared. How many vulnerable teens watching tv are going to be sucked into that cool commercial? And now there they are with their cool posters depicting that helping hand promising healing to those very desperate people? They are certainly opportunists and we must all make our kids very aware of their disception.
What I don't understand is why legitimate doctors are allowing these... people around the sick and injured. Don't they have a minimum medical training requirement and supervision or are you just allowed to start treating people in the streets randomly? The CO$ needs to be sent home immediately with a thanks for flying medicine and water over. They need to go away now.
@Mooshki I think a lot of times it comes down to intent. Bad thing is that intent is something that people can and do lie about.
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