Tuesday, August 07, 2012

Today's Blind Items - The Shooting

Most of you have heard the Charlie Sheen shooting Kelly Preston story, but there is one that would have made the world explode with gossip if this one had ever got out to the public. This couple was everywhere. They were all over every tabloid. The actor, all movies all the time is still A+. Back in the day not so long ago he was a drinking and drugging machine and had a thing for antique weapons. Still does. Brings them to the set all the time. Much more careful with them now though. His girlfriend at the time was A list. She was strictly a booze and cigs kind of person with the sometime coke night if she was really having fun. Well, one night, our actor was showing off a new gun he had purchased at auction and was drinking and playing around and swinging it and shot his girlfriend. Bam right in the ribs. The bullet sliced off a chunk of the side of her ribs right below her bra line. She was not wearing a bra at the time. She was naked. There was blood everywhere. They screamed for several minutes before one of them finally got the idea of trying to towel it off. Yeah, that did not last long. They then used the hotel room drapes. Finally our actor made a call and the hotel sent up a doctor. The girlfriend did not need surgery because it went in and out. It did cause her a whole lot of pain and to help with her pain she started using some stronger drugs which took her ten years to break.

122 comments:

Someone Said said...

Jack and Anjelica.

slave said...
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MontanaMarriott said...

Brad and Gwynnie?

Alex said...

Brad was the first i thought of too

Jennifer H. said...

Brad Pitt and Juliette Lewis

Jason said...

This definitely has Jack Nicholson written all over it, to me. I'm assuming that means Angelica Huston is the other half of our happy couple.

musesx9 said...

I don't know why but I had Wynona and Matt in my head. I remember seeing her smoking a cigarette once.

RenoBlondee said...

Brad fits really well for this. Maybe it was Juliette Lewis as the former A lister?

RenoBlondee said...

Were Jack and Angelica tabloid mainstays though?

Unknown said...

SLy Stallone.. Bridgette Neilson...

Rosemary Young said...

Bruce Willis and Demi Moore (before they married)?

spacecowboy78 said...

Juliette Lewis was never A list, and even if she was, it was after she dated Pitt. They were not all over every tabloid. GOOP sadly prob still is A or at least A- list, so I think she's out. Jack and Anjelica fit this very well, and were my first thought.

Opie said...

This sounds like Jack and LFB again.

Felicia said...

This might be the rare blind item where Affleck really fits. With J'Lo. Notice how Enty calls the woman A list but not an actress.

Jennifer H. said...

How about Burt and Loni? I have no problem imagining that jack ass waving a gun around.

a non a miss said...

Johnny Depp and Winona Ryder. Only cause Kate Moss could never be described as a casual coke user. Winona did love her pills.

msgirl said...

I probably hold Angelica on too high a podium, but I don't picture her using strong drugs. I think I remember even then she stayed out of tabloids.

As for Brad and Juliette, I once remember reading that Brad got stuck in that relationship by naming her as his girlfriend to avoid the amorous advances of some producer.

Unknown said...

Loni was never an A, can't see her braless, rumor was Burt never saw her without make up...

Animor said...

Brad & Jennifer?

bessanne said...

I am not really feeling Angelica and Jack--she never really fell completely off, she has always collaborated with Wes Anderson, and comes from a long line of acting blood. she always struck me as someone put together--he recent recluse could be because of her marriage and then subsequent death of her husband in 2008 (thanks wikipedia).

what about johnny depp and winona ryder? he is definitely still A+, and she had that whole stealing/rough period, and hasn't really done much in the recent decade. they were definitely tabloid-- he got the "Winona Forever" tattoo, and he was definitely notorious for his drug and alcohol use.

Rolf said...

LFB is not an A-lister. no clue, who this could be...

Please make this a reveal eventually.

EmEyeKay said...

I've seen Juliette's abs up close and don't remember a scar, if that helps. But I've got nothin'.

lazyday603 said...

Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver. Guns and Kennedys don't mix. Arnold should have known better.

Rosemary Young said...

Johnny Depp! Great guess. He is a gun enthusiast:

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jun/28/entertainment/ca-depp28

Animor said...

Jen never wears a bra..

musesx9 said...

Okay, I am with Johnny Depp and Winona...
Good work, guys!
Here's Winona smoking a cigar...http://www.starsmoke.com/celeb/wryder.html
She does have a pill dependency.
She loves her cigarettes too.

Amber said...

I was coming to say Winona and Depp - catching up at work so not sure if that combo was mentioned :)

yodelay said...

Johnny & Winona (forever).

smash said...

Maybe we should start looking at some of these women in bikinis. I don't think you could hide a scar on both sides.

Jennifer H. said...

She was definitely A-list TV when she was on WKRP, then brought in good ratings for Made-for-TV movies for a few years. By the time she had that series with Lynda Carter, definitely not A anymore.

Saritex said...

Johnny wasn't always movies.

cheesegrater15 said...

I can see this being Depp and Winona.

Jennifer H. said...

I like the Depp/Rider guess the best, especially with his Gonzo worsip.

FSP said...

Depp/Moss?

MontanaMarriott said...

I like the Depp/WInona guess which would explain why she fell off the map, if she had a dependency on pills for 10 years, he dissapearance from films could be explained by this.

MontanaMarriott said...

her*

bessanne said...

true, he got a start on 21 Jump Street in the late 80s/early 90s, but since that series, he has not done any tv. i would say thats always movies..?

figgy said...

Yes, I agree it's Depp and Ryder.

Wonder if the pill use explains her shoplifting?

Onyx Loathes Hydrangeas said...

I read a long time ago Johnny Depp had an old electric chair just chilling in his living room. He was the first to come to mind but i couldn't think of the gf. You guys are good. I'm w the Johnny/Winona guess.

smash said...

Only one good pick of Winona Ryder showing her rib cage and that is for a protect the skin your in ad. On her left side you can see there is an indentation then On the right side there is none or just slighty one. It looks to me like we have a winner!

Jennifer H. said...

I do think it could be interpreted that way.

Agent**It said...

@Jennifer H. I concur !

Liz L said...

Johnny did 21 Jump Street.

eris hilton said...

I'm thinking Johnny Depp.

Tru Leigh said...

Anita Pallenberg and Keith Richards.

Honeykatt said...

I really like the Winona guess, but I do want to point out that Sean Penn is a gun collector, I could easily see this being him.

Sparkwee said...

My first thought was Robert Downey Jr. and Sarah Jessica Parker.

I know he did SNL though...

david91 said...

JD and WR is the best guess, but i read somewhere that Courtney Love got Winona hooked on pills.

Jessi said...

Wow!!! if this is Johnny and Winona. But I would also just like to take this time to say how much I really miss Winona!!! I loved that chick! I even had my hair cut like hers from Reality Bites when I was in high school.

lazyday603 said...

Didn't Anita Pallenberg shoot a 19 year old boy she was in bed with? Or did he shoot himself? Keith wasn't there at the time. In fact that's why Keith took full custody of Marlon. Can you imagine that of your two parents Keith Richards is the responsible one? How screwed up must Mom be?

dia papaya said...

I'm not guessing. All the gun sh*t in the US makes me so angry. Another oopsie moment by yet another dumbass with a gun and everyone's trying to name that assh*le. Not playing today. I'm mourning for those lives lost in Wisconsin.

*I took the bait Enty. Rant over*

Feline said...

I was thinking Nic Cage for the actor, but don't know who the girlfriend would be. Depp got his start in TV, so has not been all movies all the time.

rhinovodka said...

oh just for fun, I will say Ben Affleck.

Elizabeth said...

Wow no one mentioned it but the first name that came to my mind was Nicholas Cage. Don't know who the woman would be though.

Not A Ninny said...

I have to second Jennifer H. citing the gonzo influence of HST. Very few actors fit the long-time A-list/now A+ clue, but Depp does. Fudging on his 21 Jump Street start isn't a stretch.

Problem is, a gunshot wound of that severity is difficult to cover up. There would have been powder burns from the muzzle blast, etc. Also unlikely that she'd have needed enough painkillers to turn her into a junkie, so I call bull on that.

But it puts a whole new light on the Wanna-ride-her thing, if true.

hunter said...

Depp and Ryder, perfect - yeah she had a big big pill problem for a long long time (may still, don't know).

I actually feel sorry for people in this (albeit STUPID) situation, you're chillin', having a good time and BANG all of a sudden chaos & you shot your friend. Oops!!

Beth said...

Despite his time on 21 Jump Street, I really like the Johnny and Winona guess.

Frufra said...

@smash - good work finding that pic!

DontRainOnMyPrada said...

@smashbash--did you mean her left side from our perspective or from hers? Her right side (from her perspective) looks more shrouded in darkness to me. Of course, photoshop can cure these things easily. I found a couple of other nude pics of her that hid her right side (from her perspective)...and one that showed it but was obviously photoshopped

Frufra said...

The interwebz tells me that JD has a gun collection, a bug collection, and a fake mustache collection. So there you go.

@DontRain - I'd say her right side, but the side on the left as you view the pic.

msjuliawright said...

This has to be Nic Cage or Depp, both avid collectors of all things weirdo. Remember Cage dropping major cash for some vintage knife? http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/10/nicholas-cage-buys-steak-knife-for-two-thousand-dollars/

ShanKat said...

RDJ and SJP?

Munch said...

I'm on the Depp-Wino train. Can't see this being Kate Moss, she's forever wandering about with her (very small) bits on full show. Also, she wasn't ever just a booze-n-cigs gal, she was the original heroine-chic chick.

LeGrange said...

Oh but I strongly believe that Angelica belongs hight above with the Gods couse she is just fricking awsome!!!

Raul Julia also.!!!!

Cathy said...

Can't find any link that smash posted, so this might be the pic you all are talking about, but there's definitely some type of scar here:
http://www.makeushot.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Winona-Ryder-Total-Film-Magazine-January-2011-297x400.jpg

El Roy 13 said...

JOhnny Depp and Kate MOss

smash said...

Yes, to us it's the left side but it would be the right side of her body. I could see her standing somewhere and him swinging it around and bam! You got blood everywhere.

Barton Fink said...

I imagined Brad Pitt shooting Gwyneth as I read those first responses, and I smiled. Does that make me evil?

smash said...

That's not the one. There is one of her naked only holding a skate board or something.

Omama- Kate Moss is naked all the time. Someone could find that more easily.

I can't cut and paste in the comments on my iPhone. :(

Cassiopeia said...

Eye em Kay

you saw her abs up close, eh? Details...why? where?

Mama June said...
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El Roy 13 said...

@smashboard.....but remember the NYC hotel debacle? I specifically remember drapes being ruined involved in that.

But I could be wrong...by life certainly doesn't depend on this. Oh, and his bud HST loved antique guns too. And I had heard that contrary to what was believed (heroin sheikh) Moss didn't get into heavier things until much later. I really think that considering how many ppl were invested in her body, especially at that time, a scar from a bullet could be his quite well. I mean, just look at a homie from the hood's bullet scar....they're not bulbous by any means (and I'm thinking of ones I saw in the early '90's).

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El Roy 13 said...

***excuse me, "...could be HID"

Sarah said...

Yes! Can they please get back together? Good for gossip.

Cecilia00 said...

I always feel the need to defend Sheen when this comes up:
Kelly Preston is on public record (TMZ, wen Sheen exploded) saying it happened exactly as Sheen described: the gun was in his pants, that he dropped on the floor, she picked them up later and it went off. He wasn't anywhere near or holding the gun when it happened.

Yes, I know she is a Scientolobot but I can't think of what she would get by backing up Sheen.

msgirl said...

Ooooo yeah the drapes, the drapes! We all heard they were ripped but they might have been bloody as well. It would explain so much about her and her troubles. She was on top of the world then.

SusanB said...

Like to know who the idiot MD is who didn't report this mess. It's the law in all 50 states a gunshot wound HAS to be report to law enforcement.

Frufra said...

@msgirl - who re the drapes - Winona Ryder? I've lost track of things.

Me said...

Al Pacino and Beverly DeAngelo? Maybe she was A list during the run of Vacation movies...Still around, was on Entourage for several seasons.

Sparkwee said...

Warren Beatty and Madonna!

whocaresnow12 said...

And yet another excerpt from the Carre Otis biography.....aren't you close to finished with. This book?

El Roy 13 said...

@frufra - johnny depp and kate moss had an infamous debacle in a NYC hotel room back in the early 1990's. he was arrested (in the infamous green hat) for what went down in there. But all we heard via the media was that the room was destroyed, drapes ripped down...but Moss's face was still perfect.

funny this should come up b/c my son and I watched What's Eating Gilbert Grape the other night and it made me think of this epic arrest. As it was in the height of my own personal Less Then Zero days, and for some reason in my memory bank I recall going to see Depp being arrested and arraigned (I was staying with a New School film major friend of mine at the time on W57th st) and I remember us discussing going, but I was so coked out of my mind during that era (and dosed) that I cannot for the life of me remember if I did actually go. Strange.

~anyway, sorry for the novel and I stand by the Moss/Depp theory

El Roy 13 said...

@SusanB -there are different laws for the rich then there are for the poor. Globally.

Frufra said...

Thanks OMAMA. I like the novel! Would be weird if you were at the arraignment. But I get what you're saying about not being sure. Don't know why obliterating our memory banks seemed like a good idea then. Rock on, lady.

libby said...

OMAMA---If it IS Kate Moss, I could see why there's a whole sentence devoted to her being without a bra, and naked, etc. She had no many nude & hot/cute boobie pics when she was first starting.

But is she still seen naked so often after JD's arrest? If they were photoshopping a scar out all time afterward, she would have explained it to SOMEBODY with loose lips by now.

Off to google.

libby said...

I should have mentioned--she had the huge Calvin Klein lingerie campaign, back in the day---re: potential 'bra' clue.

Sunny said...

@whocaresnow12
If this was from Carre's book, every detail was changed. She was shot in her home (not a hotel room), fully clothed (not topless) and close to her heart (not her side). You had me though - I had to do The Google :)

Not A Ninny said...

"And yet another excerpt from the Carre Otis biography.....aren't you close to finished with. This book?"

On what planet is Mickey currently an A+ star? Or Otis ever an A-list star?

libby said...

Ding ding!

I think we might have a winner...Kate Moss was in a recent Pirelli calendar shoot, and check out 3:44 into the video---looks like a horizontal scar, right on her braline.
They seem to only be showing her from her left, but the one shot from her right is blurry, then focuses for a split-second at 3:44. You'll see what I mean:

http://youtu.be/YWLLvI9I3-U

instantkarma said...

im going with sean penn and robin wright....

libby said...

It's not so much a scar, as it is a bumpy indentation in her ribcage.
You really have to pause the video to see it clearly.
Every other shot is shown from her left.

BlahBlahBlah said...

this pic of WR?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IgdgYrIKgGk/TOL3AD_XGmI/AAAAAAAAAes/bXR42z2wUcI/s1600/winona_ryder1.jpg

BlahBlahBlah said...

Definitely something going on on her right side.

libby said...

Blah Blah Blah...I only see her rib. A still pro shot like that would have photoshopped flaws, anyway.
Seriously, somebody check out that video of Kate Moss I posted! Dang y'all!

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El Roy 13 said...

@Libby -nicely done.

I really think the nude thing too points to kate. winonna wasn't really known for anything topless, much more for being the grunge goddess of the early '90's. That, and tim learly's godchild.

cincinnatikate said...

I say Tom Cruise and Mimi

cincinnatikate said...

Sly and Brigitte is a goooood guess too.

cincinnatikate said...

ok I settled on Jonny and Winona..and Vanessa is leaking shit, so he will quit wanting her back and pestering her.

Shit You Can't Buy said...

I just read something about Winona being nude holding a skateboard;
this pic?
http://theskateboardmag.com/content/blogs/todd/winona.png

I don't see anything weird in this one, or it must be a different photo than the one one of the commenters here talked about:0

astrogirl said...

I think it's Johnny and Kate, nowhere in the blind does it state her profession other than being A list

Shit You Can't Buy said...

*feels like perv*

Found two stills from a sexscene Winona did; look under her left boob in the pics:
NSFW obviously xD

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dEbYBa0uU9g/S5ac5xyVCmI/AAAAAAAAAB8/s1UC49BNut0/s1600-h/winona-ryder-nude-sex-and-death-101-04.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dEbYBa0uU9g/S5ac5eqaaxI/AAAAAAAAAB0/3_ZJtCml_qA/s1600-h/winona-ryder-nude-sex-and-death-101-03.jpg

liteNOTSObrite said...

kate moss topless pics

http://www.celebrityfreemoviearchive.com/tfcma/kate-moss/kate-moss_15.jpg

http://www.celebrityfreemoviearchive.com/tfcma/kate-moss/kate-moss_17.jpg

bookjacket said...

What about Sean Penn and Madonna?

BlahBlahBlah said...

I guess I just don't see Kate Moss as a semi reluctant drug user at any point in her public life, that's the only issue I have with her fitting in this blind.

BlahBlahBlah said...

LoL came across this in my detective travels:


Hotel Room Trashing Primer for Celebrities & Prime Donnas

http://peeling.hubpages.com/hub/Hotel-Room-Trashing-Primer-for-Celebrities--Prime-Donnas

AuditoryCooze said...

I don't have a guess but I will say that after reading the details of the Roman Polanski case back in the day, I have zero respect for Angelica Huston. She's a fine actress but when I think about her as a person, that she was home in the next room while a 13 year-old was being raped, I want to hit someone.
Preferably her.

PS said...

What about Nic Cage and Lisa Marie Presley? She's def A list celebrity, though not as actress, etc. Cage and Depp are the A-list collectors, and pfft, of this were Brad and Goop, she would have cryptically alluded to a harrowing ordeal of great physical pain, etc. along the way, much like her 48hr natural klabor BS, when b*tch had an Eli and c-sec.

PS said...

What about Nic Cage and Lisa Marie Presley? She's def A list celebrity, though not as actress, etc. Cage and Depp are the A-list collectors, and pfft, of this were Brad and Goop, she would have cryptically alluded to a harrowing ordeal of great physical pain, etc. along the way, much like her 48hr natural klabor BS, when b*tch had an Eli and c-sec.

fireflies said...

Johnny and Winona?

The Real Dragon said...

Johnny and Ryder. All I got

obitguy said...

John Wayne and Mae West

EmEyeKay said...

@Denise- Juliette and the Licks. I work in advertising for many clubs here. When I go to shows I get to meet the band, and I watch the shows from backstage, which really means from the side. She doesn't wear much when she's onstage. I have some great photos with her, she's so thin, she makes me feel like a cow, and I'm not overweight.

The Black Cat said...

I was thinking Nic Cage and Lisa Marie too.

PugsterMom said...

I don't think it's Depp. Check this article out and the photo gallery, he no longer has a license. Celebrity Gun Owners: Stars Who Are Packing Heat (PHOTOS) - The Huffington Post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/05/31/celebrity-gun-owners-license_n_1557203.html

astrogirl said...

Maybe his license was revoked after he shot his A list girlfriend. ;)

Lizzie said...

I posted, but for some reason it's not showing up.
What about Sean Penn, and Elizabeth McGovern. I thought there were stories about them much like this story. anyone know?

crila16 said...

I've seen Gwynnie in a bikini...no scars. I've seen Juliette Lewis 1/2 dressed performing on stage...no scars...plus she was a pot head with Brad.

I think this is Johnny and Wynonna.

crila16 said...

FYI...Juliette WAS a big time A list for a brief period. Brad dated her because of it, because Brad was a user. He dated Juliette for 3 years and dumped a girl he had asked to move to L.A. to be with him. Once he realized he was able to get an A list actress who could help him with his career...he dumped the other girl and left her homeless in LA. Juliette (he was never that attracted to) helped get him bigger roles.

AnonyMrs said...

This was my guess as well.

Tru Leigh said...

It's Johnny Depp and Winona Ryder.

That would explain being busted with someone else's pain pills.

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