Saturday, August 10, 2019

Blind Item #5

Lets see, you have the richest guy in the world hanging out with the mogul who pulls the puppet strings for lots of people caught up in raping underage teens both hanging out outside the country at the same time as the "suicide." Convenient.

153 comments:

Sd Auntie said...

bezos and geffen

TeeHee@U said...

Epstein is dead y'all. He was "suicided."

Courtesy of the Clintons, the Royal Family or a number of other pedophiles...

SunshineLuna said...

What does Jeff Bezos have to do with Epstein’s scandal?

Kenny Schroder said...

You have to wonder what the likes of Geffen and Spacey got out of that relationship. Or maybe the heiress has a knack for procuring the lads too.

fairylights said...

Who didn't see that coming. I'm just surprised they didn't get it right the first time.

micheleksd said...

I thought the richest man in the world was the dude from Saudi Arabia.

A.Claire said...

Bezos + Geffen hangin out on the rising sun. I am curious, since when does a prison send a dead inmate to the hospital instead of directly to the coroner? Do you really think he's dead?

Substance D said...

In the great tradition of Ken Lay, Dan White, the DC Madam... its all theater. Oswald would have hung himself if he was around today. Back then a slob with a .38 was just part of the landscape. Today it's suicide. Just ask any mass shooter if you can find these actors in Brazil or Patagonia or wherever they stash these assets.

DavidHowesCREBroker said...

And the conspiracy theories are out in full force.

How about thinking that Epstein was a weak, weak man who abused under-aged girls and was finally facing his punishment.

What's the old saying?

"If you can't do the time, don't do the crime!"

And a lot of "other" weak men are going to face the music in the coming months.
Left OR Right -- They all need to be charged, indicted, tried and sentenced.

Good thing I am NOT Judge, Jury & Executioner!

Velvet Voice said...

A. Claire we had a famous super rich mafia guy in argentina related to former president now congressman menem ... lebanese people, related with terrorism, well nobody had any pic of YABRAN the rich guy till a mag asked his photograpther to take one NO MATTER how ... Cabezas the ph chased yabran till the beach and the mag had a noice cover with the businessman and his wife walking by the sea

days alter cabezas was kidnapped., tortured, shot and set on fire ... yabran s people was accused and himself of ordered it ... he escaped and "commited suicide by shooting himself with a shotgun ,,, skull and dental pieces everywhere ... CASE CLOSED ..

Btw ... the corps (found in a farm that belonged to the president s friends and relatives was SHORTER THAN YABRAN ... and his entire family moved to lebanon .. just saying ...

Pissoff said...

Nice story; pure bs.

MultiMary1011 said...

Epstein is alive...flew to Israel where he originated.

cc423 said...

The Clinton's have been the most investigated American citizens in the history of this nation and yet they have never been convicted of anything. Yet some crazy people think that they possess some magical powers that allow them to sneak into a federal prison and kill Epstein while he is in Trump's/ Barr's custody. Weird.

herbert arnold said...

with all his millions to fight and bribe his way thru his case he didnt off himself. something stinking like a dead whale on the beach with this one.

TeeHee@U said...

When my grandmother died the EMT asked if she wanted to be sent to the hospital (for an autopsy potentially) or to the funeral home. My Aunt who found her had her sent directly to the funeral home. IDK how it is done in different places or states but being sent to the hospital is not unusual at least where I am from.

mooshki said...

@David I’m not much of a conspiracy theorist in general, but Epstein tried to kill himself a week ago, and is probably the most high-profile prisoner in the country. There’s no way he would’ve been able to kill himself if there weren’t some shenanigans going on.

TeeHee@U said...

Oh and no one actually thinks the Clintons personally ever killed anyone...they paid and/or blackmailed others to do there dirty work. LOL


House of Cards.....

flyingtiger said...

Epstein is dead? I talk to him this morning and ...OOOPs!...I talk too much. Never mind. LOL.

Bibi on the road to...... said...

Watching.

Nutty_Flavor said...

Prince Andrew’s website is offline. Strange. DDOS attack?

nancer said...

wow, the tinfoil hat crowd is busy today!!!!

Hope: Never lose hope. said...

When CPR is in progress, you can't stop until a physician gives permission. It's that simple. Hence, proceeding to local hospital.

Drama said...

I've been off the blog for a bit. Was the old (1 yr+ ago) blind about "a house in New Orleans" with cameras to record the guests dabblings actually a reference to this Rising Sun superyacht?

Sd Auntie said...

right and maybe he donated his organs...just speculating

KnitWit said...

I read he was on "suicide watch"

Hope the investigation continues and his collaborators are tried and sentenced.

Kenny Schroder said...

Well, we certainly know which one he wanted preserved (albeit less an organ than an appendage). (I know we've all been waiting for the beans to be spilled on this story but it also means having to consider Alan Dershowitz in his underpants, and Epstein's preserved member - I'm not terribly eager in either case, and innumerable hypothetical ones.)

HushHush said...

Well he did want his brain and penis cryogenically frozen. So maybe that's why they were off to the hospital.
I wonder if he left a dead hand stick in place if something like this were to happen to him. If his island, and houses were really a honeypot operation, then he probably has lots on many VIP's.

Gen-z99 said...

The dude is obviously not dead.Oh for fucks sake people open your eyes.Its obviously that the dude has staged his death.His probably hiding in the middle east.

MissDavie said...

The richest and most powerful people in the world just happen to be across the globe do-gooding when this happens?
It's just so hopeless. These people control everything and any "outsider" is going to be crucified if they go against it. They are doing anything they want and getting away with it.
Love or hate Trump, he's not one of these people.

MissDavie said...

Psychopaths like Epstein don't commit suicide. They go with whatever situation they are put in and take control of it. All Epstein had to do was either get out of it or even if sent to prison take control of his situation in the prison. Epstein liked young past puberty girls, not children, the same Pedo code that prisoners apply to young children is not going to apply to a man who just liked young women.
Oh but never mind that there is literally a Clinton associated death every other week. There are so many that it's not even mentioned any more. Everybody just shrugs now.
We're conspiracy theorists. Got it.

MissDavie said...

I do have to admit when I saw the NY Post photo of the body being rolled into the hospital (with the head not covered) the first thing I thought was "He's alive." He did not look like a dead person.
Who fucking knows? We never will.

Gen-z99 said...

That would be Vladimir Putin my friend.

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Gen-z99 said...

Exactly.

TeeHee@U said...

Agreed @MissDavie. He is definition of "new money"" who refused to play the game vs. old money or new money that does. I forget what actor even said that people in the "in crowd" did not respect him in Manhattan as he was "flashy" aka new money as he and his family was from "Brooklyn." With Trump it has always been a new money vs. old money type of thing.

I also think Epstein is dead though but offed Godfather/ Goodfellas/ Vince Forester style.

Randomish: But, all of Unsolved Mysteries have been uploaded on YouTube (with "updated". information). I never really bought into the Kurt Cobain conspiracy theory, but, in episode 9x11 they lay it out in a pretty neutral argument. Worth a watch for anyone interested. I do not know where I stand anymore.

Violet617 said...

Where is the world is Ghislaine M ????

Rosie riveter said...

Weirdo

Jan 15 said...

@Nutty That is interesting. It is still down. Thanks for that. https://www.uptrends.com/tools/uptime https://www.thedukeofyork.org

Mitchellaneous said...

Oh, man. Imagine finding out you had that dirtbag's organs. I mean, living beats dying, but it would be a really shitty thing to think about. I'm sure it's all anonymous, but I've seen those shows about people who suddenly have new thoughts and feelings after recieving a donated organ. I guess I'm joining the tin foil hat club too.

texasrose said...

Whether you think they had something to do with it or not do you really think they would need to be 'out of the country' to support their alibis??? As the blind seems to indicate it actually makes them look they needed a good alibi so would have been smarter to just have stayed insulated at their estates/castles here in the USA.
If you're someone that thought one of them might have snuck into the jail and hung them then yes, I guess it is better that they were out of the country BUT WAIT....with their resources they might have snuck off the yacht and flown supersonic to the jail and done the deed. Can their presence on the yacht be confirmed??:):):)

Rosie riveter said...

The "Epstein's Not Dead" crowd can join
"The Baby Isn't Real" crowd
and CDAN will quickly rise to the top of believable gossip sites.
Well done.

*golf* *clap*

Gen-z99 said...

The Clinton's have killed dozens especially Hilary.

Sd Auntie said...

well Miss Davie.first your bowels/bladder empty, then you grow cold and then rigor mortis sets in. the stench is what alerts u first.

Sd Auntie said...

Alex Jonees is probably in his black book Jones and had him offd or Daddy Prince P. he is the expert right. tally Ho. preserve that tax money .

Gen-z99 said...

Oh please his 'suicide' was obviously staged.His alive only idiots would believe otherwise.

Gen-z99 said...

Do you actually believe that a rich Jew would actually serve a prison sentence ,in america?you clearly underestimate the people running this puppet show.

Drewholtaus said...

Good riddancer to bad rubbish. Burn in the lowest circles of hell filthy immature Jew boy epstein! Karmic payback is a bitch and her stripper name is destiny

Gen-z99 said...

What's that@Rosie riveter?You actually believe this charade?Lol

Em and 'im said...

I think he is dead, but I think he was either murdered or had a little help with his suicide. It’s too convenient that he was recently taken off suicide watch,after his previous suicide attempt or attempt on his life. He had to be shut up permanently as too many powerful people are implicated. I hope his victims who have had their statements unsealed or have spoken publicly have very good protection and don’t end up dead as well. There are many people who have a lot to lose if the full truth comes out.

Drewholtaus said...

Dont forget ron brown! Allegedly of course

Drewholtaus said...

Enty posted Scotland yard is sniffing around randy andy...

346NYC said...

If they didn't suicide Hitler,
they are not going to suicide Epstein.
As someone mentioned above,
They're showing his face because they want everyone to believe he's dead.
It screams "SEE, HE'S DEAD. HE'S REALLY DEAD. LOOK AT HIS FACE. IT'S HIM!"
When do the EVER do that?
He's already on a jet to Israel where they will schedule his plastic surgery. Epstein is an intelligence asset.

Krab said...

Wow, it's August and rich people are on vacation? WHAT ARE THE ODDS

molly said...

You have to be checked every 15 minutes on most suicide watches. It will be interesting to "see" the funeral. LOL .....Ken Lay was incinerated 3 days after his "death". No open casket. Odd that little environmental get together a few days ago with photos of Oprah and Katy Perry having to be scraped off their little boats. Planning committee?

Drewholtaus said...

No tinfoil .bill clintoon was on the epstein flight logs like 27 times

T. W. said...

I want to know how a man on suicide watch can hang himself

Drewholtaus said...

Seems like the investigations were getting a bit too close to the power players. ..

T. W. said...

Something ain't right.

Reports from earlier this morning claim prison guards told them Epstein was found hanging in his cell. I provided links under Blind Item #13 from yesterday.

I just checked DListed and it says ABC News is reported Epstein had a heart attack.

https://dlisted.com/2019/08/10/the-fbi-is-investigating-jeffrey-epsteins-suicide/

TeeHee@U said...

If Alex Jones is on the list why has he spent his career outing these pervs. It would be Blackmail 101 if people had info on him. He was deplatformed because he was speaking out against the pervs and one does not deplatform someone who is speaking nonsense. Nonsense is all over YouTube/ the internet.


And...no! He never inspired people to shoot anything. Personal choice. Always.

T. W. said...

MTO News reported earlier that Epstein went into cardiac arrest in the jail. I did link to that. But still. The earliest report said a prison guard said he was found dead from hanging.

Ann said...

I didn't believe they would leave him alive long enough to participate in a criminal trial. Epstein was arrogant and never would have committed suicide. He was murdered but we will never know by whom. Rot in hell Jeffrey that's one big karmic debt he's got to erase.

Gen-z99 said...

Cause he wasn't on 'suicide watch',that's just a cover for spies to carry out the 'suicide'.His alive and well.

T. W. said...

According to MSNBC and The Washington Post, Epstein told people someone tried to kill him last month, he did not attempt suicide. Sandra Rose blog is also reporting Epstein was found dead in his cell and that he was not taken to the hospital while in cardiac arrest.



Jeffrey Epstein Dead of Apparent Suicide *Update*

FROM THE ARTICLE

Billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein feared for his life in the days before he was found hanging in his jail cell. Epstein, 66, was found dead in his Lower Manhattan jail cell on Saturday morning. According to MSNBC, people close to Epstein feared an attempt on his life after he was found semi-conscious in his jail cell last month.

http://sandrarose.com/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-dead-of-apparent-suicide/

Gen-z99 said...

Nah rich Jews like him,don't die.

Drewholtaus said...

Clinton mafia dont play around! Allegedly of course...

Trapped said...

The wages of sin is death

T. W. said...

@Trapped +1

The details of Epstein's death are bizarre. Did he die of cardiac arrest while en route to the hospital or was he found dead in the jail cell this morning?

Here is what The New York Times reported earlier this morning:

The New York Times

Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide at Manhattan Jail, Officials Say

"Mr. Epstein hanged himself and his body was found at roughly 7:30 a.m. Saturday at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan."


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/jeffrey-epstein-commits-suicide-at-manhattan-jail-officials-say/ar-AAFCxx5?ocid=spartanntp

mike m said...

Rosie gets very upset whenever you bring up the zionist hand in everything shitty

Nicole said...

As a victim of sexual assault, I am PISSED.
Pissed that, once again, the powerful win.

mike m said...

Someone posted a side by side picture of the dude on the gurney and one of Epstein, they did not look the same.

https://www.imgoat.com/uploads/3fe9d84310/223911.jpg

mike m said...

Rosie and STD, two susceptible nincompoops who always verify each others incoherent bullshit.

T. W. said...

@Nicole

Satan always collects payment in full.

TeeHee@U said...

Look the same to me especially for a man who probably has not been eating much (he was being fed person food vs. filet mignon) and probably aged more in a year than 20.

Thank you for sharing though.

Drewholtaus said...

Scotland yard is turning the screws on randy andys kids according to enty, i dont think all of them will get away

T. W. said...

As of 4:41 pm, NBC News website is still reporting Epstein was found dead in his prison cell.


Jeffrey Epstein is dead by apparent suicide in federal jail, Justice Department investigating

FROM THE REPORT

Epstein, 66, was in his federal jail cell in downtown Manhattan but was not on suicide watch at the time of his death, multiple people familiar with the investigation told NBC News. He had apparently hanged himself, and was found unresponsive at around 6:30 a.m. ET.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jeffrey-epstein-found-dead-nyc-jail-n1041081

TeeHee@U said...

Does anyone know if prisons have video surveillance though? Anyone who worked at one/ knows someone who did? Especially under suicide watch with THE highest profiled criminal in the world, atm?

mike m said...

Acosta was told too go easy on Epstein when he was prosecuted and sentenced S Fla. Epstein was an " intelligence asset".

Blackmailing sick, perverted pedophiles would be a very disgusting business to be in.

This is intelligence?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/49355/acosta-was-told-epstein-belonged-intelligence-ryan-saavedra

T. W. said...

@TeeHee@U

To answer your questions:

1. Yes, prisons and jails have video surveillance but there are blind spots

2. Epstein was NOT on suicide watch at the time of his death

mike m said...

That is some high level magik right there, giving yourself a suicide heart attack.

TeeHee@U said...

Thank @TW.


Then, hmmmmm.......

Sd Auntie said...

glad u support the publicist for mass murder of children.

T. W. said...

Dear CDAN

The New York Times says Epstein's body was found in his cell at 7:30 am.

MTO News and others say he was transported at 6:39 am while in cardiac arrest.

Why did the hospital send him back to prison after a suspected heart attack and how did he get back to prison so quickly?

Sd Auntie said...

that's the voices in your head Miserable mike telling u its a different person

T. W. said...

Perhaps Epstein left the hospital against medical advice so he could kill himself in his prison cell less than an hour later.

Sd Auntie said...

glad u include me in your lame rants Mental mike. time to rake your nap now

Sd Auntie said...

cant leave AMA when in custody. on another note @ TW. hope your doing well

T. W. said...

Sandra Rose posted a video of someone associated with the Clintons visiting Epstein in prison before he died. Now the video is unavailable. Interesting.

fairylights said...

https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/photos-show-jeffrey-epstein-as-hes-wheeled-into-downtown-hospital/

Look at the hands. When an unconscious body is transported to the hospital, the arms are usually tucked into the side of the body so they don't flop around. You don't put them on top of the body like that, especially if you are doing CPR as you go.

T. W. said...

@Sd Auntie

@ MD ANderson

Thank you! I am doing better. I'm still on the mend but I am significantly better and I have hope. I pray you all stay safe!

BardiC said...

https://lauraloomer.us/2019/08/10/audio-jeffrey-epstein-dead-for-hours-on-suicide-watch-with-cameras-in-cell-before-ems-arrived/#.XU8yGOgzbcc

TeeHee@U said...

@TW best wishes in recovery.

Again, I have to ask anyone in EMT/ medical whatever is that customary? I know rigomorits sets in fast and in an open casket area that is how the hands are usually are folded and crossed.

Anyone from NY and Jewish?

I find this all weird but just want to ask questions before jumping to conclusions.

T. W. said...

@fairylights

we can't see Epstein's face in the photo.

By looking at the hands/arms, the person on the gurney appears to be awake. Yes, a person can be conscious during CPR.

But there's a problem. Multiple news outlets say he died while en route to the hospital. The photo shows the man being wheeled into the hospital, not out of the prison. How could his arms be up like that if he died on the way to the hospital?

Marlin said...

There is NO WAY Epstein committed suicide. When on suicide watch there is NOTHING in the cell and you are watched 24/7. Watch, security cameras will be “broken” and all his little black books and other incriminating stuff will have disappeared never to be seen again. The deep state is scary as hell.

robert said...

ITS NYC, the most corrupt state there is. of course he was going to die. Chicago would be second (FYI, 50 shot, 5 killed last weekend but thats typical so no real news there) and LA/Tran Francisco would be third. how is anyone surprised. next we will have Ghisell Maxwell coming out with a mouse face on to "signal" the elites.

T. W. said...

@BardiC

I checked out the link.

I have never heard of that site and it contradicts information found on mainstream sites.

The linked site reports Epstein was on suicide watch. That is not true. That alone makes me doubt the rest of the story. Having said that, that does not mean some of the things in the report are not true.

There are rumors the Clintons and Trump visited Epstein in prison.

I think misinformation is being spread on purpose.

What if someone familiar with the conspiracy theories is setting up the Clintons or Donald Trump?

T. W. said...

Thank you TeeHee@U!



Everyone, please stay safe. I am serious.

T. W. said...

@fairylights

I forgot to mention that the New York Post article you linked does say Epstein was found hanging. There is no mention of cardiac arrest.

The news media needs to get their stories straight.

Ann said...

Having worked at a prison as a nurse (many many years ago when first married and while hubby finsished his degree) the photos from the NY Post tend to rule out he died from hanging. Hanging victims are purple and have bulging features. The guy on that stretcher is relaxed and pale. Yes suicide watches are on video and usually a guard has to make eye contact with the inmate every fifteen minutes. Lights are always on in the room. Room has been stripped of anything useful for harming self. He may be in rigor and that's why his hands look as they did. Unless you break his arms you won't be able to manuever his hands into a different position. I'm having a hard time working up any sympathy for the guy.

T. W. said...

@BardiC

I'm thinking maybe your source is legit.

I think a lot of contradictory information is being released on purpose.

I don't know who did what.

I'm not even gonna speculate because I do not want to disappear.

Monkeyweather said...

Get pics of Epstein and the dead body. Nose and ears don't match. Closer match to: Bourdain

Unknown said...

Do we even "Know" that he was on suicide watch or attempted suicide in the first place?

The "News" tells us he tried committing suicide, no phots, scratches or releases from the jail.

Its ALL one big plot and narrative were supposed to believe. The attempt, the suicide today, all of it.


Unless someone works at the jail or hospital or has proof, none of it is real.

Monkeyweather said...

Nose/ears don't match.
Shenanigans.
Compare dead body to live recent pics of Epstein (nose/ears).

Aoife said...

SIGH

I guess those who think he was alive know people whose natural skin tone is deep purple.

Having worked in downtown Manhattan for many years I can tell you that the hospital and the jail are very close.

People are making this ish up as they go along.

Is the death suspicious? Hell yeah. Did everyone know it was coming? Hell yeah, especially after all of the doucments that were released in the civil case involving Ghislaine Maxwell. Anyone know where she is?

Narcissists/psychopaths don't off themselves under normal circumstances. Rod Rosenstein posted a tweet saying the incidence of self harm among pedophiles in custody is high.

When he was alive I thought to myself he looked a lot like Bourdain.

Suspicious death. Barr has personal business and family links at stake. One victim was recruited a Mar - Lago. But yeah it's the Clintons.

Where is Ghislaine?

Monkeyweather said...

Sshhh, go back to sleep.
And whatever you do: always believe your TV and don't think for yourself

LaurenMaye said...

It was reported that the cameras at the prison were NOT WORKING. Of course they weren't. Also, don't know if this is true, just interesting, they say he was 66 yrs and 6 months old. Hmmm.

Mischief Girl said...

Re: the picture of him being wheeled into the hospital and his hand placement--agree it's odd. I was wondering if he was cuffed and that's why the elbows were bent, hands up? Because his hands were cuffed together?

@Ann, thanks for the reminder. His face should have been purple if he'd hanged himself.

#TEAMGEELJIRE CLASSIC said...

Epstein's interest in transhumanism is why it isn't a suicide.
YOU GUYS ARE IN FOR A SHOW

Unknown said...

^^ ok wow, I think you might be onto something

Gen-z99 said...

NY is the Jewish mafia's HQ,so yeah he wasn't going to trial.So can we call NY a mafia state?

TeeHee@U said...

My uncle died of an aneurism and his face was bruised and purple as well. Again, with the folding of the arms. Truly is a part of death. That and shitting yourself.

BardiC said...

@T. W. It's all misinformation until we get a proper report.

All I know is that victims of hanging usually have purple/blue face, head swelling, and marks around the neck.

BardiC said...

Yay, more conspiracy stuff!

https://www.ureka.org/videos/watch/109237/jeffrey-epstein-dead-an-alleged-prison-worker-posted-that-he-thought-epstein-had-been-switched-before-his-death-was-announced

Sook said...

When will we the people finally stand up and call "bullshit" on this crap? This whole situation is dirty as the day is long. This guy was a pedophile of the highest order who had dirt on MANY high level people. Of course he commits suicide in his cell (sarcasm). This was a fucking hit coordinated by some very, very powerful people. The kind when they say "jump," your ass immediately becomes Michael Jordan. You may think you could hang, but you would shit your pants just being in the same room. Let's see how this all breaks out. My money is on one or two low level politicians or celebrities going down, and then that's it. Is he alive? Can any of us really say for sure one way or the other these days? Strange times. Strange times...

mike m said...

Exactly:

https://www.imgoat.com/uploads/3fe9d84310/223911.jpg

Drewholtaus said...

Bill Clintoon and his body man were freuqent fliers on the lolita express. The system cannot allow this stuff to go too public , same with randy andy etc

MissDavie said...

I meant don't that if a body is transported to the hospital, and it's certain the body is already dead...don't they cover the face? I have always thought that was the protocol.
I also just meant there are so many questions and we know there will never be any real answers.
My first thought at seeing the NY Post photo was "He's not dead."
Could he have enough dirt and money and connections that for the good of all the death was faked and he was transported to a safe country? It's not that far-fetched.
Surely he made some kind of arrangements in the event of his death for what would happen with all the information he was holding over powerful people?

Drewholtaus said...

Most stable genius just retweeted link blaming Clintoon mafia

it took forever said...

Trump and Clinton names have been circulating with epstein for years now. They didnt do this. This "suicide" was ordered by a name that hasn't been mentioned as yet but would have come out soon.

Sekrit said...

I think people forget the body is different laying down, then again when it's going through the stages of death, as it were. Everything drastically changes from hour to hour.

tatty said...

His face and neck are so fucking purple, how do you people not see that???

Gen-z99 said...

Cause its obviously fake.Plus his rich,Jewish and NYC connected.This isn't the first time a pedo has staged their death,they've been many before.Sorry but unless I talk to the staff at the hospital myself.I'm not trusting or buying anything the media cooks up.They're fake and corrupt.Jews always protect their own and I mean always.

Gen-z99 said...

Its either a hit or staged but I'm going with the latter,only because I know of personally how large the number of Hugh profile pedophiles who have staged their deaths or fled (roman polinski)and are in hiding.Its what these cowards do.What i know is that any high level criminal/mobster has their death staged,especially in cases like this.Plus his Jewish and rich.You've never met Jews have you?they'd never let something bad happen to their own

EponymousAnonymoud said...

+10000000. Even “mistakenly” taking him off observation with his history of an attempt and letting him do it himself could be the result of nefarious players. On the other hand maybe we give our civil servants too much credit. it could just as easily be sheer incompetence. I am a bit surprised, it being the federal system (not like it’s rikers), and him being even bigger than el chapo at the moment (also housed at metro corrections, I think). I’d like to think Dershowitz or someone will pay, but they won’t.

EponymousAnonymoud said...

Like, the EGG SHAPED PENIS organ? Sorry, couldn’t help myself.

EponymousAnonymoud said...

Jared kushner’s Dad did time.

Aquagirl said...

The NY Post photos are not from today. They’re from the incident that occurred 3 weeks ago.,

lutefisk said...

He was actually taken off suicide watch That in itself is strange. Also, the cameras were conveniently not working. My son in law is a journalist covering Epstein. He has been some very interesting info.

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Valerie said...

He was taken off suicide watch more than a week ago. How much do you want to bet that Trump's errand boy Barr had something to with that?

Sabre said...

I'm with Ann. I've seen a lot of dead bodies & the pose, waxy appearance & colouring of his hands & knuckles, purple ears & cheeks while areas of face pointing upward are paler, even the colour of the hair lightens & darkens based on blood/colour pooling. Definitely dead for longer than guestimated. That's an hours old body.

And as weird as this sounds...that's def his ear. I compared them because I lead a sad & lonely existence¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Drama said...

Look - I'm all in on some conspiracy, but not at the cost of common sense.

In the first instance, why are there photos of Epstein headed to hospital? and why let them leak? That to me seems a deliberate move. And if so, why then would you employ a body double / not-Epstein in a photo that people have time to pore over? That makes no sense.

If you accept that it's in the interests of the institutions of power to see him on the gurney, the idea behind it being to reinforce that he's dead - although maybe there's other reasons - I have no idea. You put that together with how it's in those same people's interests for Epstein to not be on suicide watch - despite a prior attempt. How else do you create a plausible moment for it to happen?

Having now read several articles linking Epstein to being an intelligence asset, and him having been in custody a month, the high level plea deal from 2008 - I'm now very interested in the "faked death" narrative. I don't necessarily buy it, but to return to my original point, if you wanted to craft a narrative that Epstein was definitely dead, creating an opportunity for him to do it, then documenting the body on the way out of the door would be the best way to do that. Of course, if Epstein has turned on high value individuals (you would hope) that we would see something from this in the coming days.

EV said...

Marlin, I worked for a suicide helpline for years and once had to testify at the inquest of a prisoner who killed himself while on the line with me in a suicide cell. As he died he told me the guards were laughing. I was very happy to help both those bastards lose their jobs.

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Gen-z99 said...

@drama his alive and well.

Erin said...

funeral director here - yes, the head coloring is normal for someone who has died from choking/hanging. From what I can see in the photo, I don't see any indentation from the item used the hang/choke, and you would definitely see it. Very purple face, very dark ears. Hands are on his front because of cuffs. His lids are halfway closed - the "dead eyes". I would have expected the eyes to be bit buldged, so he must not have been hanging for long IF he was hung. The ME could pass on an autopsy based on his faith (and at the request of his NOK), but I have never seen a Jewish family say no to an autopsy in the case of a suspicious death, so... Also, Jews bury asap, and are not embalmed (even if they are autopsied). Most Jews don't cremate, but quite a few reform Jews do cremate now.

For the record, I think he was Clintoned.

Nutty_Flavor said...

Thanks, Erin, that's interesting.

Fun email from Democratic activist/Clinton supporter David Brock’s ShareBlue organization knocking around Twitter.

In the email, ShareBlue notes a "rapid swell in far-right disinformation" and recommends the following.

Do Not
1. Deny the possibility of foul play
2. Excuse Epstein of his potential crimes, or doubt the validity of his guilt
3. Link to the current court documents regarding Epstein or use them in constructing your argument.

Do
1. Sympathize with the potential victims of Epstein
2. Remind people of the prior allegations against President Trump (Talk Subject 14c)
3. Remind people of Trump's prior quotes regarding Epstein and their proven interactions together (Talk Subject 34)
4. Remind people of the power that the President of the United States holds in comparison to members of the public
5. As always, ROLCON.

ROLCON is supposedly "role play conservative" - ie, go on various message boards and act like a fool to discredit opposing viewpoints.

herbert arnold said...

trump derangement syndrome is a knee slapper. trump had nothing to do with epstiens activities. poor old dems know they have no hope in 2020. oh wait, they have babbeling biden yeah that should do it.

Gen-z99 said...

The dems are the biggest pedos

Rosie riveter said...

Erin, I woke up this am thinking of this case and wondered if you would show up- and here you are! I have a friend who is a funeral director and he is the most level headed, decent, cool guy I know. Thanks for the info, it's a breath of fresh air to see facts and (rare!) logic here. THANK YOU!!
I believe he was Clintoned as well

MissDavie said...

TMZ is now saying that the prison just skipped the nightly check on Epstein. So they had the most high-profile prisoner in the world currently in their jail. He had either been attacked or attempted suicide recently. But hey, just skip the cell check tonight. No big deal. I don't even know what to believe. I just hope Epstein made some kind of arrangements that all the dirt he had on everyone is released in the event of his death.

Soapdish said...

@ev, are you trying to tell me a prisoner on suicide watch had a telephone in his cell? Sorry, not buying it.

Sd Auntie said...

i think the Royal Family or Russians did this. really don't think NC or HRC have the power to pull this off. NYC Corrections is the most corrupt with LA 2nd. it is one of the worst jobs with lots of overtime. quick rich scheme with overseas funds is what happened. or JE paid an inmate to kill him because he could not do it himself. the guy seemed kind of soft

Sd Auntie said...

BC not Rc

Bleu said...

Of FFS that side by side looks exactly like him except dead. (And here I went in fully expecting it to look like a totally different person.)

Bleu said...

Trump's controversial retweet of the Clinton body count conspiracy is one of the only places you can find the 2000+ pages of court documents unsealed Friday night in this case (because news outlets aren't linking to the docs even as they selectively report on the contents). This alone should make it clear that Trump is not involved. He's trying to give the public direct access to the court docs.

BRAD PITT said...

richest guy in the world = some CEO

mogul who pulls the puppet strings = David Geffen

people raping underage = hollywood

Ann R. Key said...

+1

Unknown said...

So you all think the Clintons are some stealth ninja killing machines but left his name on the flight manifests?

Erin said...

Thanks for your sweet words Rosie! Yes, most funeral directors are pretty level-headed because of what we do every day and night. The flipside is we have quite the sense of humor! (And a BIG love of caffeine!)

Nutty - I was at Marshall's yesterday and saw a tea tin with Harry Sparkle's image and thought of you and CDAN!! Very interesting that the dem's would send out talking points about Epstein. I guess because so many of the people implicated are dems? Deflect and deny.

Nutty_Flavor said...

Ha ha Erin - I'm not surprised Harry's tea tin ended up at Marshall's - isn't that a discount place? It seems merchandise (and magazines) featuring Harry and Meghan don't sell very well.

I think it's particularly curious that the ShareBlue people advise against linking to the court documents, and that some mainstream journalists have also avoided linking to them.

What's in those documents?

You'd think that anyone interested in transparency and justice would be urging people to go look for themselves.

squirrelmistress said...

why would they take someone off suicide watch after they tried to commit suicide???

A. said...

I remember that blind. Hmm...

Goodau said...

We were meant to see Epstein's face. One paramedic appeared to be doing very casual cardiac compressions, however there was no pulmonary assistance occurring. Anyone trained in cardiac resuscitation knows that you need to oxygenate the blood that you're trying to circulate and that was definitely not happening. Mouth to mouth, or a resuscitation bag would have obstructed the line of sight to his face and they didn't want that. The resuscitation team wasn't there waiting to take over either.

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