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In case you don't post a comment, and only read the comments, you might not have seen the message that all people posting comments will start seeing today. I wanted to share it with you too.
In the next week, I will be deciding whether to go to a system which will involve the approval of all comments prior to being posted. I do not want to have to resort to this option, but will, and hopefully would only have to do so for a short time before returning to the system that exists now.
Many sites do not allow any comments at all, and that would be a much easier option, but I love and value the comments and won't ever resort to that. If the problem does not resolve itself, then I will just review all the comments before they are posted so that this can continue to be the vibrant community it has always been.
Peace and Bacon,
Enty
Thank goodness.
ReplyDeletePeace and Bacon! Love it. Lame that it's come to this, but whatever we have to do to troll-proof sounds worth it.
ReplyDeleteGreat! Goodbye douchebags
ReplyDeletesucks that is comes to that but I guess we should consider ourselves lucky it hasn't happened before. Rock On Enty - xoxox
ReplyDeleteGreat news. Hopefully this will resolve itself soon.
ReplyDelete+1. That was tiresome.
ReplyDeleteYay! Finally some sanity. Thank You.
ReplyDeleteThankyou entry! :) yesterday was just ridiculous
ReplyDelete+1 to infinity
DeleteI'm all for having comments subject to approval, but hope it doesn't take up too much of your time..
ReplyDeleteThank goodness. Now I want bacon.
ReplyDeleteEnty ** stupid iPhone
ReplyDeleteA-freaking-men. Yeesh.
ReplyDeleteSounds fine to me.
ReplyDeleteSorry you would have to do that--I've been through this on some message boards I used to post on and it kind of ruins the flow of conversation.
ReplyDeleteIt's sad that you created a nice little community and people need to try intentionally to hurt it. Do what you need to do to clean things up Enty--sorry it will be extra work for you.
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ReplyDeleteGood news, Enty! I welcome the screening. It's a great site so dowhat you need to do to keep it that way.
ReplyDeleteAre the trolls sleeping in from their long day yesterday? I thought this thread would be chock full of porn and insults. Or did the bridge collapse on their teeny tiny heads?
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DeleteWell that's good news. I am a longtime lurker and sometimes commenter but recently, the comments have been off the hook. Do what you have to do Enty!
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ReplyDeleteWhatever it takes to get rid of the loser(s) from yesterday.
ReplyDeleteAs long as that means no more racist posts from 888, I'm all for it.
ReplyDeleteGood news! If that's what it takes, that's what it takes. Stupid trolls.
ReplyDeleteAnd no troll posts here so far, so maybe it's working already...
Whew, what a relief, my mouse was wearing down from all that super fast scrolling on some of the comments
ReplyDeleteTHUMBS UP
Yea! Yesterday was out of hand. If you need some help, I am still out of work and would be happy to be of service. Peace, love, and banjo.
ReplyDeleteDitto Tracy! I'm not currently working either! Glad to help, patrol, police, monitor whatever. That was sooooo was weird, and a tiny bit interesting like a car wreck but I wouldn't want to look at it all day. Funny though as I have been reading this site for YEARS I only realized yesterday how much the comments were such an important part to the experience. Once I read enty's comment (above) yesterday (at the bottom) I found myself going..."nooooo...I don't want ANY comments to disappear" so I was like to myself "wooow...they really do mean that much to me". I would be soooo upset if things were to change. Thanks again Enty! I do love your site and you!!!!
DeleteThanks for addressing, Enty. Hopefully, you won't have to resort to that, but whatever it takes!
ReplyDeleteGood luck Enty! Peace and Bacon to you too.
ReplyDeletethank goodness - i read some of the comments yesterday and got a headache.. no point even replying to the person/people who were taking over with all sorts of rubbish talk.
ReplyDeleteLet's hope it does not have to come to this as I too agree it would detract a bit from the conversation rhythm... but better a little delay than the mental people posting yesterday. thank you!!
Censorship is a slippery slope, people. Who decides what is appropriate or acceptable? I loathe racist and bigoted speech but is it up to *us* to censor? It's up to *us* to let the offenders know it's not acceptable, but censorship?
ReplyDeleteSlippery slope...
@Meanie- this is not "our" blog. It is Enty's blog and can can choose what comments are posted.
DeleteThat said, it will be interesting to see what types of comments are approved...from there we can get a sense of what hasn't been approved.
Thanks, Enty, for dong this. At first it was entertaining, but it got tedious very quickly. Hopefully you won't have to monitor for very long.
I agree in general, but a blog, like a business for example, is private property, so our freedom of speech doesn't apply. It's like the mall enforcing a no bare feet rule.
DeleteI have avoided posting much for ages because of all this idiocy (so, they did one good thing for the rest of you!). In effect trolling stifles free speech when it drives people away.
Just my 2 cents.
I'm sorry this is creating work for Enty.
It's worth it if it keeps the threads from degenerating into what they were yesterday. Enty isn't going to block people if he/she doesn't like what's being said, but I could have done without a lot of the stupid crap that was up yesterday & those could easily be picked out and left out.
DeleteI'm happy with that. Hello everyone! Hope we have a better day today!
ReplyDeleteThat'll be weird, and I don't know how you'll have time to go through everything, but I saw what happened yesterday! Insane!
ReplyDeleteAnything to keep 888 from commenting though.
Thanks for taking on the extra work to keep the site interesting and enjoyable.
ReplyDeleteI kinda wanted to see how long they could keep it up! A lot of energy went into that
ReplyDeleteImo, and as a long time participant in message boards, you've just gotta let this shit play itself out. Just like the AtoA, betch, et. al. shit, eventually the perpetrators doing it get bored and move on and there is parity one again.
ReplyDeleteOnce you start moderating, where do you draw the line? At the trolling? At the ass to ass (which honestly annoys probably 90%of us now)? The ganging up on people? Eventually a community of people (even a loose knit one) will self moderate...usually by ignoring.
But whatever. I actually found yesterday's fuckery somewhat entertaining. I wouldn't want to read it everyday but then again I don't want to read "ass to ass" everyday either.
+1!!!!!!!
Delete@Lola
DeleteAgreed!
Agreed! The A2A, betcha, etc is just as annoying as the trolls! Its a small group of "good people" but they themselves take over just as much as the trolls.
DeleteAgreed Lola!
DeleteYesterday I went from being confused, to uncomfortable, to terrified, to intrigued, and then I stopped at so so entertained! Seriously that shit was crazy but in it's craziness it kind of made sense, and I love that so many commenters came in and said that hey, these guys kind of have a point.
I haven't been around for very long but I've grown to feel safe within this community. I seldom comment on anything on the Internet other than here; it feels kind of pointless at times, but at CDAN there's a really good chance you're going to have nice conversations. So after hanging here for 8 months I felt the urge to be a part of CDAN - but as many other lurkers/newbies, I understand the criticism directed at the atmosphere of our comment section. As big of a troll the person/s was yesterday, there were still some valid points embedded in all the fuckery.
Now I'm not pointing any fingers; I like both Libby and Anna, who were 2 of the regulars that were attacked. And even though I personally have no problem with the inside jokes or the vulgarity, I understand why some would feel excluded and offended. Inside jokes are by their very nature alienating, so of course people are going to react when there's constant mentions of ass2ass - I mean, even I who understood the Requiem of a Dream-reference when someone first used the term ass2ass stopped finding it funny after a while. lBut I'm a live and let live kinda gal, you know?
I think the lesson here is tolerance; as someone else said yesterday, just because some have been here longer than others, it doesn't make it "their" board - and if you're new, recognize that there's going to be inside jokes and some click-y behaviour and you won't like everything people say and do around here. We ARE going to disagree and trolls will come and go but really, who the hell cares?
Chill, people. Those who are here are mostly very intelligent and kind, there is no need to turn on each other or be territorial. It's the Internet! Doesn't it belong to all of us?
Totally on board. As he says, this can just be temporary to get rid of the asshat(s). Yesterday was a flustercuck.
ReplyDeleteI agree with what Meanie Reese said about censorship. I don't know if this is feasible, but what about having commenters having to register with their real names & addresses (like a dating site) but of course keep all the information private. You'd register once and be approved and THEN you'd be able to comment to your heart's content and if you run amuck (like some yesterday) approval is rescinded.
ReplyDeleteYes, thank you Enty. Yesterday sucked.
ReplyDeleteThanks for listening to your followers.
ReplyDeleteBtw, anyone posting on an iPhone get cut off mid sentence or lose the ability to edit a post once you start typing??? Grrr
ReplyDeleteYes, so annoying.
DeleteYes.i have to click done and then go back in and edit.
DeleteHappens anytime I need to edit. Then I have to start over.
DeleteHi y'all, longtime lurker & very infrequent poster. Such a shame that there has to be moderation cos of troll minority, comments are what makes CDAN. Hopefully back to normal soon :-)
ReplyDeleteThis should have happened when B Profane started threatening people.
ReplyDelete@rcb- Haha, that was crazy shit! He wanted to expose SSN and addresses.
DeleteVERY glad to hear it.
ReplyDeleteCensorship seems premature, I'm wondering if this is a one time thing or not, maybe you should wait and see before changing it up. Yesterday was crazy. I'm not going to lie I laughed my ass of at first, but it got old quickly! I stopped reading most of comments. While yesterday was ludicrous, I'm wondering if all the troll-baiting has caught up to some of the posters.
ReplyDelete@Pink - you mean did all the dumb ass2ass jokes bring this on? I was kinda wondering that myself.
Delete@ Nope I wasn't here for the origin of the dumb jokes so I'm not sure where that was headed or what its purpose fulfilled. I meant other more obvious troll-baiting; insulting a particular actor randomly so their super-fan would come and defend them or insulting the point of view of certain posters so they would get riled up, stuff like that.
DeleteYesterday was ridiculous but it started a few days before that even. I don't have a problem with approving the post. We do that at work. In the PR world it's actually OK for negative comments to post but lately many of the comments wouldn't have gone through. The ass to ass stuff is typical CDAN community and culture. The other stuff, well...
DeleteTotally agree w/you, Enty!!! Do what you've got do and I'll keep reading every day. :o) Sorry that it's come to this, though, more work for you... xo
ReplyDeleteI love how people keep complaining about "betch" when it was literally two days that it was over-used (on my end) but by all means, let the racist commenters spew vile on the daily!
ReplyDeleteCensor away enty, good luck!
I laughed at betch and I laughed at ass to ass and I laughed at those fools yesterday. I guess you can say I don't take this too seriously.
DeleteI enjoyed the "betch" bantor and A2A as well. I don't mind that kind of thing. Yesterday was insane though.
DeleteYes, yesterday was one for the record books, betch. HA! :-)
DeleteSweet! Anything you have to do to keep the hairy trolls away...
ReplyDeleteCensorship is a slippery slope? Only if you have something to hide my dears. And we know who you are too.
ReplyDeleteIf you and your friends would stop your bullshit, it wouldn't have to come to this. Audrey is right that this is not up to YOU to decide anything that happens on this blog.
Ben! How do you have time to comment?
DeleteDis da lute again. Tough talkin gal hidin behind an alt? Mu apologies if not.
DeleteThank you sir!
ReplyDeleteI used to really enjoy commenting and the comments over on the AV Club site. Even though they were often filled with outrageous, crazy shit they were often funny as hell. That site went to a dedicated, registered user-model of comments and was never quite the same. A lot of major sites are now just eliminating comments altogether. So, Enty, I suggest you choose between total freedom or get rid of them completely. You'll drive yourself crazy trying to edit comments.
ReplyDeletemy tablet is going Berserk - the LOL was in reply to Gladys's bridge comment.
ReplyDeleteTo all the people that said "if Enty doesn't like it he'll shut us down" (paraphrased)... I think you've gotten your answer.
ReplyDeleteI am also for moderation if it prevents the kind of hijacking of yesterdays posts. I have barely commented in the years of reading this blog, but felt the need to mention how ridiculous it was, and agree with Jessie that some people are way too invested. It is also nice to see normal comments in this post.
ReplyDeleteStill i wonder what brought on this attack on CDAN, it seems the attacker has been reading this site for awhile cause they knew certain things about some posers!!! WEIRD
ReplyDeletePeace & bacon! Hahaha. Love.
ReplyDeleteI think monitoring the site would be too time consuming, but if it takes care of bigots & racists like 888, just curious and black cat, then do what you have to do.
ReplyDeleteI never said anything racist. Whitefolks just hate it when I point out their subtle racism.
DeleteRace baitibg is the same as racism honey. Maybe not in your delusional mind but in the real world it is.
DeleteWhoa! What about me? Don't I deserve some moderation?
ReplyDeleteI understand some people's concern about "drawing the line" between moderation vs. censorship, but given what happened yesterday I have to agree with enty's stance. Especially if it would, in fact, be temporary.
ReplyDeleteI need to be moderated! I am a loose cannon! I cannot be trusted! Enty doesn't love meeeeeeeee!
ReplyDeleteAwesome, because I sure missed the funny and thoughtful comments that are usually generated around here. Yesterday sucked.
ReplyDeleteThank god!
ReplyDeleteI am not happy with "censorship" and if Affleck is the moderator I wonder who or what they will deem inappropriate for posting. While Enty's comment sounded "reasonable",. Affleck sounds like he has a bone to pick with someone.
ReplyDelete"Censorship is a slippery slope? Only if you have something to hide my dears. And we know who you are too.
If you and your friends would stop your bullshit, it wouldn't have to come to this. Audrey is right that this is not up to YOU to decide anything that happens on this blog."
Everyone knows you don't discipline in anger. While some comments were very nasty (the one with the click throughs..I forget) others were just silly. Yeah, who gets to decide?
I am all for monitored comments. I've seen other sites descend into chaos via the crazy comments left after articles. al.com is a prime example. Go for it, Enty.
ReplyDeleteYeeeeeaaah, great. Censorship. Great solution, the patriot act of Cdan... Fuck you, enty.
ReplyDeleteAs a long time reader, and occassional commenter all I can say is THANK YOU!
ReplyDeleteAfter the last few days mess, I had actually considered giving up on reading the blog (and def the comments). That pissed me off. This is our place, not these asshole trolls.
So Enty - thank you.
Moderate the fuck outta me Enty. You know how I like it.
ReplyDeleteI've read thread after thread in the last couple weeks of "regulars" blatantly inviting the trolls. Why are you complaining? You got exactly what you were, literally, asking for
ReplyDeleteHow do you invite a troll?
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DeleteThank you. I love the comments & I usually ignore posts like the ones yesterday.
ReplyDeleteI only post occasionally, but I just wanted to wish you luck with the recent troll problem. Hope it sorts itself out with the least amount of bother possible.
ReplyDeletePeace and bacon.
(I'm stealing that, so thanks!)
Great news.
ReplyDeleteMy invitation came via two beautiful white Peace&Bacon doves, wrapped in satin, and tied with a lovely gold ribbon.
ReplyDeleteAs a long time lurker with a compulsive addiction to reading CDAN, I for one welcome over Overlords new rules. Yesterday was insane. Whatever inspired the manic trolling it was exhausting to watch, lord only knows how our troll managed it without downing a years supply of Adderall. Hopefully things will go back to normal now.
ReplyDeleteit will be like in Celebitchy when you disagree with the author,they delete your commentary or boycott you or it's just a moderator?
ReplyDeleteSo much for freedom of speech.
ReplyDeleteHopefully, the Entity doesn't let the ones submitting topics do the moderating.
Gotta admitt the "armpit " stuff was funny.
Thank goodness, yesterday was ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteYou, too, will be assimilated. And deleted. And censored. And moderated. And tricked. And cajoled. And go blind. And help buy Enty a new car.
ReplyDeleteI was late to the party...work keeps interupting my CDAN time. Yesterday was a bit chaotic, but not totally unexpected. There have been signs of discontent voiced through out the comments lately about certain posters and the cliques that seemed to dominate the comments. By the time I got home a number of comments had been deleted--I will hasten a guess that those were most likely ones I didn't want to read anyway.
ReplyDeleteI'm still waiting to be moderated. ENTY IS JUST A TEASE.
ReplyDeleteThanks for listening to the veterans Enty. All the fun commenters have left long ago because of the disgusting trolls. It would be nice to get back to the way it used to be.
ReplyDeleteOk - I rarely come to the site anymore, and there was a time (a *long* time, i.e. years) I couldn't go a day without coming on here. I've made some really good virtual friendships thanks to Ent, and what this community was. Remember there was a time when we could reveal personal information about what was happening in our lives (our real lives), and find compassion, sympathy, and the realisation that we weren't alone in our experiences? That was a long time ago, now. I came on here for good laughs and camaraderie; now all I see are +1's (which is the adult equivalent of "first"), juvenile snivelling, and constant attacks on Ent. Flame all you like - this is my opinion, so no amount of sniping will convince me otherwise - it will just bolster it. Ent, I hope we can all get the comments back on track to great laughs and good times!
ReplyDeleteMemries,
ReplyDeleteLike the corners of my mind
Misty water-colored memories
Of the way we were
Scattered pictures,
Of the smiles we left behind
Smiles we gave to one another
For the way we were
Why gotta taint my mind w/ Striesand. Now I'm gonna picture every chick I see today wit a huge beak.
DeleteWhat happened yesterday?! I always miss the good stuff.
ReplyDeleteStupid day job.
It went beyond silly trolling. It was bullying the regular commenters. Think about the potential consequences of what you say and do to other people. Good for Enty for stepping in at this point.
ReplyDeleteThe only way we can eliminate the troll without any comment moderating is to simply ignore it. It wants and needs attention to thrive.
ReplyDeleteOh Cam!
ReplyDeleteDid
you
just
give
the
troll
attention?
I AM SO FUCKING THRIVING RIGHT NOW.
*scratches troll behind the ear*
ReplyDeleteI have no idea how you would have the time as I don't have the time to read all the comments I want to daily. But so far today smooth sailing and nice to be able to comment.
ReplyDeleteI'm not tech savvy, but isn't there a way to ban an IP? The nonsense yesterday was likely just one or two persons. Perhaps Enty can ask for a couple of long time commenters to act as moderators?
ReplyDeleteI know you can double click to hide a post, but it would be nice if there were an "ignore" or "hide" feature that worked by username.
@mad, I don't think you can ban an ip on blogger...I'm not even positive you have access to ips like you do on a traditional message board
DeleteSo that is what it takes to get censorship? What about all the countless times other posters were singled out and put down? And please do t use the excuse that it just came to your attention. We all know that someone monitors the comments.
ReplyDeleteAnd who will do the censoring now? What if that person doesn't like certain posters or their comments?
All of this is juvenile bullshit. If I wanted to see the unpopular kids or the "newbies" get picked on I would go hang out in the highschool parking lot.
It really doesn't matter to me anymore because this will be my last visit to this site. To those of you I have became friends with, you guys know how to get in touch with me.
Enty can't ignore me. It's part of the court order. It's all right there in the documents. Did you know that Enty is a probate lawyer? He can write your Last Will and Testament!
ReplyDeleteI don't mind the approval of comments. I used to read Ted C until all those idiot TwiHards took over and spammed every goddamn thread. I used to enjoy reading the comments there and finally left because all the fun was gone.
ReplyDeleteThank you man behind the curtain. Peace, love, and soy bacon back at you.
ReplyDeleteAnd yet nobody wonders that if Enty is actually an entertainment attorney how does he/she have time to moderate the comments for approval.
ReplyDeleteIf you just let to go for a few days then the novelty wears off for the trolls and they move on.
And for the person that suggested everyone be required to register with full names, addresses and numbers, just out of curiosity how many times have you been scammed and had your bank account hacked? Just giving up personal info to a stranger on an unsecured site isn't a smart decision.
Profane threatened to reveal our personal info, 888 regularly confuses the site for a Klan meeting, only now something is going to be done? People here are harassed daily by others, and nothing is ever done. I find this to be a day late, and a dollar short.
ReplyDeleteI don't read as often, and I don't comment as often. I don't mind the ass2ass comments, I actually find them funny. It is the people being nasty to others, just because they can, that has me fed up. I am pretty much done with CDaN.
How do you decide what is appropriate or not appropriate? I for one think the Count's comments are rather crude. But most of the clique love him? Meanie R is right that is a fine line!!
ReplyDeleteYes I agree the Count is disgusting. Anyone who thinks it's cute to sexualize, demean, and objecty women is a very sick person. This crap only adds to the rape culture that is pervasive in this country. Disgusting.
DeleteI only objectify those that want to be objectified. Attention whores in pap shots, Bynes, etc. Maybe you should complain about Enty posting sroties about mental patients taking bathroom nudes or addicts getting bruised up by tricks. That is the site you love so much. Oh and casting couch/molestation blinds.
DeleteEverything canopener keeps spouting as supposed personal information about Enty came from that one article about this site from a while ago. I don't see why he/she thinks repeating it is so incendiary. In any case, I'm happy for whatever it takes to get this place back to its regular programming.
ReplyDeleteYou might be done, PuggleWug, but CDAN ISN'T DONE WITH YOU.
ReplyDelete@Roman Holiday - I think it would be easy to determine. I opened a few comment windows yesterday and the trolls were obvious.
ReplyDeleteI find the Count's comments very crude, but I'm not into censorship unless someone is going over-the-top in trying to disrupt and derail a thread. Then again, there's only so long even sad, sorry fucks can keep that up, so I just scroll past until I find a familiar name to read.
You don't see me cluttering up kindness posts w/ my game, do you? Generally my stuff is on topic or fits in where the conversation has gone. And I rarely ever attack someone who complains about me, it is to base and easy. I attack their words or motivations.
Delete@canopener - your tenacity is my absolute favorite. <3
ReplyDeleteYes, please moderate. While I always enjoy a good debate and a little snark, it's been out of control for a while. This long time reader and rare commenter just might start being more involved again. Thanks Enty!
ReplyDeleteI do agree that you have to be careful with moderation. I understand the need to tamp down the abusive trolls. I just hope it doesn't turn into a way to eliminate healthy debate. Not everyone has the same opinion, and it's nice when that can be expressed without fear of being attacked by one of the cliques or being deleted without cause.
ReplyDeleteEnty, just a thought.. if there's a way for you to do it, it would be a lot less time consuming just to block the IP numbers of those few who only come around to disrupt things.
ReplyDeleteSo sad. So sorry. Such a fuck. How dare you talk about Enty that way?
ReplyDeleteI'll get a new IP number out of the closet. I have thousands. Enty should know.
ReplyDeleteThis is Enty's blog. He can do whatever he wants. He didn't say he was going to monitor for sure. He said maybe. He's probably just waiting to see if the 12 year olds keep up their shit or if they fade away.
ReplyDeleteI've been here for about 4 or 5 years and there is *always* dissent about once a year or so. Newbies start to take over and then the oldies get pissed. Then someone gets ganged up on. It then becomes friendly again. Lather, rinse, repeat. BUT, this thing yesterday was beyond. I don't blame Ent.
YAY Enty!!!
ReplyDeleteI am an infrequent commenter, but consistent reader. I say do what you need to do to de-troll it. Everybody has to do some housekeeping sooner or later...
ReplyDeleteIt's a shame that it had to come to this but it is for the best...good looking out big guy
ReplyDelete@Layna Day - I agree with you there.
ReplyDeleteYou know what? Enty should do nothing. I elect we scroll past and/or simply ignore. Filtering out all the shit in our daily lives is a good skill to learn, anyway.
Oh, goody. Canopener still needs more attention and still wants to keep grinding her/his ax. Good for you, hunny. Keep on keepin' on wit yo' bad self. Fight the power.
ReplyDelete*eyeroll*
More is better than less because if there's more less stuff, then you might want to have some more. However, your parents won't let you because there's only a little. If you really like something, you'll want more of it.
ReplyDeleteDON'T EVER LEAVE ENTY.
I'VE SEEN THE KOOL-AID VAT.
THEY WOULD RATHER KILL THEMSELVES THAN LOSE YOU.
This and Radar are the only ones I read. I rarely look at the comments because of this problem. I become too engaged and before you know it, half the day is gone.
ReplyDeleteSee, now I want to know what happened yesterday! Dammit!
Can someone quickly tell me so I don't have to search around? (and they are probably deleted now anyway)
Thank you!
@Crystal...the radar "Brandy" comments are the best! If I was going to ever troll a comment section, it would totally be a Brandy post on Radar. All you'd have to do is go in and say, "LeAnn rocks!" and watch the shitstorm ensue.
DeleteWhy not just add a few moderators? Five or so would do it, and they could delete troll posts almost immediately. It'd be shit-work for a few days, but it'd improve quickly enough.
ReplyDeleteFrom what I've seen of the way he operates, there's no way Enty self-moderates this place. He's not around often enough, and that'd mean a huge delay, and then bigger backlog of posts waiting to clear.
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DeleteThanks for the attention DullandOrdinaryOne! Your card is in the mail.
ReplyDeleteOh and Peace and Bacon!
ReplyDeleteYesterday it was a freakin zoo in here. I come here for Enty and the responses of the great people who usually populate the site.
ReplyDeleteEnty, it's yours, do whatever you think you have to do.
I am just... horrifically confused. I don't participate in the comment-sphere enough to understand what's really going on. Heck, I don't even *read* the comments that frequently. I tried to read some of them yesterday when all of this f*ckery was going on, but it just hurt my brain. :(
ReplyDeleteThanks for the heads up. Yesterday was nuts and as has already been noted, well coordinated & most likely pre-planned.
ReplyDeleteHave to say I'm a bit surprised it didn't happen sooner; totally open blogs are a rarity nowadays b/c they are sitting targets for just about anyone, agenda or not. I agree with the solution of temporary moderation until sh*t settles, hopefully then to return to the unmoderated version that's worked for so long. I wouldn't advertise if/when this happens, just do what needs to be done for as long as needed and return to moderation only when necessary....I'm sure the blow-owner/s don't have the time for the hassle, but yesterday was disruptive and nuts.
For those that dislike moderation and the potential for censorship it introduces, I agree w/you, but recall that posting here is a privilege not a right. It's not our forum and its up to the blog owner/s to decide how to manage it....happy posting everyone:)
I have been waiting for the PRIVELEGE TO BE FUCKING MODERATED ALL MORNING. So fucking typical. Nothing but empty promises and threats. What an asshole.
ReplyDeletethank GOD. this site's been unreadable. it's become a dirty message board full of 14 year olds and wading through that bullshit for posts relevant to the BI's is tiresome.
ReplyDeleteit's not a democracy. it's HIS blog. so if somebody doesn't like it, too bad. me? i'm thrilled.
@nancer- well said. I agree.
DeleteI hope it's not necessary. How long can one person keep up their hate campaign?
ReplyDeleteMaybe the dodo will move on when he or she figures out that all of Perez Hilton's entries are not written by him, or that he tries to make money off his site...or *gasp*...his name isn't even Perez Hilton!!!! What a liar! Con artist! And a few people out of the thousands that read him might not know that! They must be told! Over and over! And they must CARE!!!!
What a world, what a world!
I'm with Lola for the most part although I second canopener's motion that he/she be moderated. Good luck enty but don't drive yourself nuts!
ReplyDelete@Phoenix banning IPs is possible on some blogs esp those with more complex individualized software but I'm not sure it works with Blogger. Hate to agree with @canopener but with the availability of vpns/rotating IPs a determined troll/s would just work around it.
ReplyDeleteI agree w/@Layna and @madlyb about the scroll-by method, this is how I've always read CDAN over the years (skim/scroll over what you don't like and ignore it, respond to what you want to - kind of like a buffet) but yesterday's disruption requires a harder response. Short of shutting down the board moderation is a better temp solution.
I rarely comment but I read this blog almost religiously. I do notice the clique and may find some of the jokes not so funny, but hey, to each his own. Racism, bigotry, misoginy: it pains me to read through them but I don't have the energy to argue with them nor do I think this is the proper forum.
ReplyDeleteEnty, I don't mind you moderating the comments because this is still your blog. You do have the right to do so. I just hope you don't take too much time approving the comments because I suck at guessing and rely on others' guesses.
PS. The Count and Dragon never cease to amuse me.
@train what do you mean? I'm bad =[
DeleteHow is it bad that you're fun as fuck?
DeleteI often get weird looks at the office for laughing at your comments.
@trainrides I'm sorry. I misunderstood. *hugs*
DeleteLove you to babe. Lemme gdt a hug when he's done.
DeleteITA yesterday was crazy! Are armpits ok? Will they need to be approved?
ReplyDeleteTotally support moderating comments.
ReplyDeleteARM PITS. It all comes down to that eventually, doesn't it? Let's go back to praising our Lord and Savior's Greatness. Still waiting to be moderated. FML. I was so excited. MODERATEME! CENSOR THE FUCK OUTTA ME. I DESERVE IT!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteLol
DeleteMan I hate moderating comments it takes forever. One of the reason I stop going blindgossip. Every time i tried to call Ace out. It never got posted.
ReplyDeleteWatever, Enty I aint mad this is your site and you're allowed to do watever you want.
I usually lurk and was wondering what was going on yesterday. Enty, thanks for keeping comments as I know moderating takes extra work. The comments are hilarious and entertaining, and the blind sleuths - well they are truly remarkable at solving all the mysteries!
ReplyDeleteWell said @lvs. I do agree.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading through yesterday it seemed like a planned attack because they haven't been back except for canopener who is clearly unhinged.
ReplyDeleteWhat I got from yesterday (Tweet thread) was that a lot of people blamed Mooski, Jax, Lutefisk, The Black Cat, Rickatoo and someone named Affleck. Which is interesting because none of those people showed up yesterday. Also according to the Affleck comments doesn't that mean that Ben Affleck further up the thread is Lutefisk and they are bringing back the same hatred and trying not to be noticed? Very interesting.
Bye Enty you've lost another reader.
After reading through yesterday it seemed like a planned attack because they haven't been back except for canopener who is clearly unhinged.
ReplyDeleteWhat I got from yesterday (Tweet thread) was that a lot of people blamed Mooski, Jax, Lutefisk, The Black Cat, Rickatoo and someone named Affleck. Which is interesting because none of those people showed up yesterday. Also according to the Affleck comments doesn't that mean that Ben Affleck further up the thread is Lutefisk and they are bringing back the same hatred and trying not to be noticed? Very interesting.
Bye Enty you've lost another reader.
Yes at first I didn't "get" the Count but i do now and find it amusing however who's to say that one or more of the monitors don't have a goal to get rid of him? We've never heard from Affleck before but they seem pretty dogmatic in their quest to play keep away ftom posters THEY don't approve of. I'm all for playing nicely with everyone until it moves to something hateful. I hope that's the criteria. Maybe clearly defined rules beforehand can put us at ease?
ReplyDeleteMy signed Amber Tamblyn book was censored. Enty went through it with a red Sharpie.
ReplyDeleteCan I just ask... Why does everyone seem to have so much f-ing time on their hands?!
ReplyDeleteThe trolls have time to post nonsense all day!?
Enty has time to moderate comments AND be a lawyer (give me a break)?!
Why don't I get any of this apparently abundant, free time?
Its the economy.
DeleteI agree. Yesterday was ridiculous with the dumb comments. First? or FRIST as the moron wrote. This is a site for adults not children.
ReplyDeleteWasn't here yesterday so will catch up but what the heck happened?!
ReplyDeleteGood for you Enty! Reading the commenters here is my guilty pleasure and by the looks of the site recently it looks like it's been hijacked. Thank you for taking the time to post this and doing what you have to do. Just a damn shame that the riff raff took over and forced you to do this.. Keep posting and Bacon all around!
ReplyDelete"This is a site for adults, not children." BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
ReplyDeleteARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?
This is a site of sycophants who think Enty is the Second Coming and are waiting in line to cup his balls and lick his boots clean.
THAT WAS RICH.
I'm a lurker & love the snarky stuff. However, lately I've been avoiding this site due to the trolls. I'd love it if they were cut off at their tiny knees.
ReplyDeleteThank god and I don't even believe in god.
ReplyDeleteIvs---I don't appreciate being named. I made an effort from 9AM to keep regulars calm, trolls UNFED, and ignored REPEATED disgusting sexual harassment. Over & over. But I did something wrong, really? If you re-read, you will see I have nothing to be ashamed of. that is, unless the trolls are hijacking identities too.
ReplyDeleteMy appearance will no doubt get someone excited.
Thank god and I don't even believe in god.
ReplyDeleteThanks Enty, good luck!
ReplyDelete@whocaresnow - I understand your concern, but if I was safe on Match.com (who had ALL my info, including credit card #) frankly, screening who gets to post without moderation is not a big deal to me if all he gets is my name and address (or Facebook page) as long as the information is kept private.
ReplyDeleteAnd to all those who think censorship would not be a problem - some of the most meaningful conversations I've seen here have been about politics, abortion and personal problems. What if there is a monitor who is prolife and deletes all prochoice comments? Or a liberal who deletes all conservative comments? Those two examples are examples of censorship. If you only want to chat with like minded individuals, this isn't the place for you. I've seen lots of comments that bored and/or annoyed me - I just move on. It's only when (like this past week) these comments become the majority of comments that also threaten and harass others that I say something. Just remember - censorship depends on who is doing the censoring.
Dear Bacon, I mean Enty. I don't always read the comments for every post, but I do regularly and randomly read the posts, and occasionally post a comment, even though I never remember my posting name and have to change it. I settled on Bessie Smith, and have even messed that up. Forgot the capitals, etc. Will see... may have to invent another name.
ReplyDeleteBut I always felt safe to read. I am not interested in reading a porn site. I'm not. That is for somewhere else. I am not interested in reading a site where someone is attacked for whatever reason. I really thought in the past when you asked for comments, that we could all contribute, knowing that with the wide variety of readers, you would get many differing opinions, and we could all live with that, respect it, and accommodate differing views. I just was amazed yesterday, and unhappy because I was coming to the conclusion that I would have to quit reading this site. I don't mind telling you Enty, that you have gotten me through some rough times. Every site evolves, but it doesn't devolve. I don't mind if you screen. After what I read yesterday, it needs to happen. It's like a virus attacked the site. Just please don't cut someone out if they sign in under a different name. I'm really quite bright, I just keep forgetting my sign in name. :) or flubbing it up.
I was going to email you when I read the sign in name of one person, asking something obscene. I'm really not interested in reading that on your site. Please clean this up.
Did I ever tell you that one could wrap a tennis shoe in bacon and I would eat it? Have you ever had bacon and chocolate? Chocolate covered bacon? Yum.
I disagree with the answer to yesterday's issue being prior approval, and I will explain right now:
ReplyDeleteYesterday's problem was not "trolling" but "flooding". If some idiot says anything like "first", "X commenter is a colossal douche", "Y politician is a criminal" or whatever, he/she/it is only some virtual being and we should ignore it. Yesterday there were dozens of inane messages and it was what annoyed me and probably most of the commenters.
This blog comments are great, in a great part, because of their immediacy/flow, and if we have to wait until the messages are posted, it won't be worthwhile to read them. There are a lot of webs that write this page's BIs and main suspects. If the comments aren't worthwhile reading, it would save us a lot of time, but you would lose a lot of clicks.
If you start censoring messages, you can finish up censoring the typical but often hilarious "Betty White" answer to a BI involving a nymphomaniac drug fiend or posts about our dislike for some actor/celebrity unless it's Kinky Kim.
Some solution could be the above said of IP ban, but there are a lot of ways someone could go through it (yesterday's trolls weren't exactly professionals, I could have done a lot more harm that they did with less effort if I had wanted).
Another answer could be obliging (does this word exist?) to wait for five minutes between messages in the same board. This would disencourage "flooders" and I know there are a lot of things you can do to avoid it, I don't think yesterday's kids know it.
I hope this option will take care of those nasty trolls! CDAN is my favorite of favorites, and reading posts has been an awful chore the last week or more!
ReplyDeleteThere used to be a lot of positive energy here and what felt like genuine interactions between people who cared to indulge in the same guilty pleasure. Moderator or not, I'm taking a break from this.
ReplyDeleteIll be back when Lohan is out of rehab.
After reading some of what people have said here, it seems like there is still a misconception - maybe I'm wrong but it's bothering me.
ReplyDeleteSome people have said that the "trolling" started before yesterday. Do you mean the extra comments by the Count, me, and some of the others "newbies" who might've been raunchier than most people's taste? See, I like Counts humor - he kinda reminds me of someone I know. Hence why I started playing along with him - and I've tried to play along with the "regulars" too, but they are too cliquey. They usually ignore everyone else except each other, unless they're telling people to get over the ass2ass jokes and go find somewhere else to "play". I've watched them too it for close to two years - that's how long I've lurked before commenting.
So, yesterday was bound to happen - I think it was both to piss of the regulars by pointing out the hypocrisy - which is RAMPANT here - in the most annoying way possible and stick it to enty because they have an ax to grind. Personally, I found it hilarious, and there's a comment in blind item #5 that 8513something wrote that lays it out better than I can. I suggest people go read it, and maybe it'll help the regulars understand how MOST of us feel about the situation and the community here.
Finally - and please, correct me if I'm wrong - since there seems to be a private, invite-only forum, why are the regulars even complaining about what goes on here? Seems like they already have a place to go play that is closed-off from the people they don't want anyway? Why can't they go there to have the cliquey community they want, and leave the PUBLIC blog open to the public?
Sorry if this is too long to read - it's probably going to get buried or ignored anyway.
YoMismo---I would email Enty directly, seriously. The man needs tips, and you seem to know this stuff.
ReplyDeleteI don't care for half of the comments here, but why would I expect to? It was the harassment of others that was out-of-bounds. Yes, and the flooding!
Better hike up your mom jeans.
ReplyDeleteU go Enty! Do what 'ya gotta do to get rid of the haters! XOXO
ReplyDeleteAll the OT comments and the direction a lot of it was going has caused me to spend less time here than I used to; I really only want to see the guesses for the blinds so that became the only comment lists I would look at. Once things started to get so far OT, or less kind, I realized that if the way it is now, was that way it was when I first started coming here, I wouldn't have come back.
ReplyDeleteSo I'm all for it, Enty.
What happened? I havent posted a comment in a while. Is someone spamming?
ReplyDeleteBrooke, i have been reading since 2006, started commenting maybe in '07, and about a dozen cliques have come and gone. It's a matter of being oneself, being independent, and not being too mean to each other here. It's not hard. I've 'survived' because i stay honest, for better or worse. It's worked so far.
ReplyDeleteAlso. This is a pretty damn nice blog. If anyone thinks this is intimidating, they've never seen a political site.
I'm an old-timer, and I don't know anything about an invite-only forum. I think there is an OLD one (not invite-only, just link is lost) that some old-timers must've cared enough to bookmark, way back. (I didn't.) The recent one Enty created is not used. IDKW.
I don't care about people posting off topic. There is only so much one can say about a blind reveal, or on a post about Lindsay Lohan or one of the K family without it getting redundant and boring. So have at it. What I find offensive is that there are people on this site that banter about the word troll frequently and make a poster feel uncomfortable and unwelcome simply for having a view point that may differ from the current 'in' crowd.
ReplyDeleteThat being said, I have noticed an absence from several posters lately--Dia, Sunny, Rocket Queen, and Brenda L who have been long time regulars.
@Jerkula, this past week I had to scroll past what seemed to be your endless comments on favorite porns, favorite positions, favorite scenes, etc. If you want to have that conversation with someone, take it to email. It's off-topic for this site, and frankly, not something the majority of readers care to know about. This isn't your personal porn forum, and many of us would appreciate you not using it as such.
ReplyDeleteGot some craycray goin on here, Enty. Moderate if you must. BTW? I've been here many years as a lurker and the "inner circle" syndrome and the "used to be" was here when I first started reading 6? (lord) years ago.
ReplyDeleteFirst, that 'inner circle' keeps it going when you aren't here, they make you want to see what the hits are about , so give them props.
If they don't welcome with open arms? Stick it out and let them get to know you, your humor and your acuity. It comes down to 'Can You Hang?' Will you be there to keep a "conversation" going? Be patient.
Soon those inside jokes will be born in front of your eyes and become your own catchphrase. so...Welcome.
People come and go here. you wanna be an inner circle that some newbie bitches about 6 months from now? then stick around, be responsible, be: respectful/outrageous/sympathetic/snide/miserable/sarcastic/bitchy/supportive and most of all? Funny As Hell.
2nd? "To Absent Friends in The Used To Be" I Miss them too. We should have a reunion. :-)
I am so happy to see the hinged back among the unhinged. Please stay with us. Hopefully we can return to a normal community.
ReplyDelete@Count: like you and defend your right to your raunchy-yet-(usually)harmless posts, but could you reference who you're responding to here? I can't follow your conversation here. (takes annoying hall monitor cap off)
ReplyDeleteAs I posted yesterday am still not convinced this is the "real" you (apologies in advance if I'm wrong). You usually reference a poster's name in your responses.