Saturday, May 11, 2013

Comments

In case you don't post a comment, and only read the comments, you might not have seen the message that all people posting comments will start seeing today. I wanted to share it with you too.

In the next week, I will be deciding whether to go to a system which will involve the approval of all comments prior to being posted. I do not want to have to resort to this option, but will, and hopefully would only have to do so for a short time before returning to the system that exists now.

Many sites do not allow any comments at all, and that would be a much easier option, but I love and value the comments and won't ever resort to that. If the problem does not resolve itself, then I will just review all the comments before they are posted so that this can continue to be the vibrant community it has always been.

Peace and Bacon,

Enty

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Ms Cool said...

Thank goodness.

Anna Nonymous said...

Peace and Bacon! Love it. Lame that it's come to this, but whatever we have to do to troll-proof sounds worth it.

rosie riveter said...

Great! Goodbye douchebags

Stacey Charter said...

sucks that is comes to that but I guess we should consider ourselves lucky it hasn't happened before. Rock On Enty - xoxox

Erin said...

Great news. Hopefully this will resolve itself soon.

Alice Tate said...

+1. That was tiresome.

marie-ski said...

Yay! Finally some sanity. Thank You.

Ella Bella Boo said...

Thankyou entry! :) yesterday was just ridiculous

Robert said...

I'm all for having comments subject to approval, but hope it doesn't take up too much of your time..

Brooke said...

Thank goodness. Now I want bacon.

Ella Bella Boo said...

Enty ** stupid iPhone

Manyakitty307 said...

A-freaking-men. Yeesh.

Nutty_Flavor said...

Sounds fine to me.

car54 said...

Sorry you would have to do that--I've been through this on some message boards I used to post on and it kind of ruins the flow of conversation.
It's sad that you created a nice little community and people need to try intentionally to hurt it. Do what you need to do to clean things up Enty--sorry it will be extra work for you.

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detown359 said...

Good news, Enty! I welcome the screening. It's a great site so dowhat you need to do to keep it that way.

GladysKravitz said...

Are the trolls sleeping in from their long day yesterday? I thought this thread would be chock full of porn and insults. Or did the bridge collapse on their teeny tiny heads?

kinkycurls2010 said...

Well that's good news. I am a longtime lurker and sometimes commenter but recently, the comments have been off the hook. Do what you have to do Enty!

GladysKravitz said...
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Jamie 2 said...

Whatever it takes to get rid of the loser(s) from yesterday.

rejectedcarebear said...

As long as that means no more racist posts from 888, I'm all for it.

Jenn said...

@Gladys I'm waiting too. I was wondering if it were a one day thing or what.

Calla said...

Good news! If that's what it takes, that's what it takes. Stupid trolls.

And no troll posts here so far, so maybe it's working already...

B626 said...

Whew, what a relief, my mouse was wearing down from all that super fast scrolling on some of the comments
THUMBS UP

TracySwingKid said...

Yea! Yesterday was out of hand. If you need some help, I am still out of work and would be happy to be of service. Peace, love, and banjo.

Candyland said...

Thanks for addressing, Enty. Hopefully, you won't have to resort to that, but whatever it takes!

__-__=__ said...

Good luck Enty! Peace and Bacon to you too.

L said...

thank goodness - i read some of the comments yesterday and got a headache.. no point even replying to the person/people who were taking over with all sorts of rubbish talk.
Let's hope it does not have to come to this as I too agree it would detract a bit from the conversation rhythm... but better a little delay than the mental people posting yesterday. thank you!!

Meanie Reese said...

Censorship is a slippery slope, people. Who decides what is appropriate or acceptable? I loathe racist and bigoted speech but is it up to *us* to censor? It's up to *us* to let the offenders know it's not acceptable, but censorship?

Slippery slope...

f281561 said...

I'm happy with that. Hello everyone! Hope we have a better day today!

EmEyeKay said...

That'll be weird, and I don't know how you'll have time to go through everything, but I saw what happened yesterday! Insane!

Anything to keep 888 from commenting though.

Nope said...

Thanks for taking on the extra work to keep the site interesting and enjoyable.

DocP said...

I kinda wanted to see how long they could keep it up! A lot of energy went into that

Lola said...

Imo, and as a long time participant in message boards, you've just gotta let this shit play itself out. Just like the AtoA, betch, et. al. shit, eventually the perpetrators doing it get bored and move on and there is parity one again.

Once you start moderating, where do you draw the line? At the trolling? At the ass to ass (which honestly annoys probably 90%of us now)? The ganging up on people? Eventually a community of people (even a loose knit one) will self moderate...usually by ignoring.

But whatever. I actually found yesterday's fuckery somewhat entertaining. I wouldn't want to read it everyday but then again I don't want to read "ass to ass" everyday either.

Snit said...

Totally on board. As he says, this can just be temporary to get rid of the asshat(s). Yesterday was a flustercuck.

SusanB said...

I agree with what Meanie Reese said about censorship. I don't know if this is feasible, but what about having commenters having to register with their real names & addresses (like a dating site) but of course keep all the information private. You'd register once and be approved and THEN you'd be able to comment to your heart's content and if you run amuck (like some yesterday) approval is rescinded.

shopgirl said...

Yes, thank you Enty. Yesterday sucked.

Pen-a-lope said...

Thanks for listening to your followers.

DocP said...

Btw, anyone posting on an iPhone get cut off mid sentence or lose the ability to edit a post once you start typing??? Grrr

Vroo said...

Hi y'all, longtime lurker & very infrequent poster. Such a shame that there has to be moderation cos of troll minority, comments are what makes CDAN. Hopefully back to normal soon :-)

rejectedcarebear said...

This should have happened when B Profane started threatening people.

DewieTheBear said...

VERY glad to hear it.

Audrey said...

@Meanie- this is not "our" blog. It is Enty's blog and can can choose what comments are posted.

That said, it will be interesting to see what types of comments are approved...from there we can get a sense of what hasn't been approved.

Thanks, Enty, for dong this. At first it was entertaining, but it got tedious very quickly. Hopefully you won't have to monitor for very long.

Pink Picklegoo said...

Censorship seems premature, I'm wondering if this is a one time thing or not, maybe you should wait and see before changing it up. Yesterday was crazy. I'm not going to lie I laughed my ass of at first, but it got old quickly! I stopped reading most of comments. While yesterday was ludicrous, I'm wondering if all the troll-baiting has caught up to some of the posters.

Cassandra Kelly said...

+1!!!!!!!

Mari said...

I agree in general, but a blog, like a business for example, is private property, so our freedom of speech doesn't apply. It's like the mall enforcing a no bare feet rule.
I have avoided posting much for ages because of all this idiocy (so, they did one good thing for the rest of you!). In effect trolling stifles free speech when it drives people away.
Just my 2 cents.
I'm sorry this is creating work for Enty.

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Cassandra Kelly said...

Yes, so annoying.

flowerpower said...

Totally agree w/you, Enty!!! Do what you've got do and I'll keep reading every day. :o) Sorry that it's come to this, though, more work for you... xo

Nope said...

@Pink - you mean did all the dumb ass2ass jokes bring this on? I was kinda wondering that myself.

LottaColada said...

I love how people keep complaining about "betch" when it was literally two days that it was over-used (on my end) but by all means, let the racist commenters spew vile on the daily!

Censor away enty, good luck!

wacko jacko said...

Sweet! Anything you have to do to keep the hairy trolls away...

Jacq said...

It's worth it if it keeps the threads from degenerating into what they were yesterday. Enty isn't going to block people if he/she doesn't like what's being said, but I could have done without a lot of the stupid crap that was up yesterday & those could easily be picked out and left out.

f281561 said...

Yes.i have to click done and then go back in and edit.

Ben Affleck said...

Censorship is a slippery slope? Only if you have something to hide my dears. And we know who you are too.
If you and your friends would stop your bullshit, it wouldn't have to come to this. Audrey is right that this is not up to YOU to decide anything that happens on this blog.

JJ said...

Thank you sir!

LottaColada said...

@rcb- Haha, that was crazy shit! He wanted to expose SSN and addresses.

Jenn said...

@Lola I agree with everything you've said

Ramone Love said...

I used to really enjoy commenting and the comments over on the AV Club site. Even though they were often filled with outrageous, crazy shit they were often funny as hell. That site went to a dedicated, registered user-model of comments and was never quite the same. A lot of major sites are now just eliminating comments altogether. So, Enty, I suggest you choose between total freedom or get rid of them completely. You'll drive yourself crazy trying to edit comments.

shakey said...

my tablet is going Berserk - the LOL was in reply to Gladys's bridge comment.

Rickatoo said...

To all the people that said "if Enty doesn't like it he'll shut us down" (paraphrased)... I think you've gotten your answer.

yvie said...

I am also for moderation if it prevents the kind of hijacking of yesterdays posts. I have barely commented in the years of reading this blog, but felt the need to mention how ridiculous it was, and agree with Jessie that some people are way too invested. It is also nice to see normal comments in this post.

Badguesser said...

Happens anytime I need to edit. Then I have to start over.

it took forever said...

Still i wonder what brought on this attack on CDAN, it seems the attacker has been reading this site for awhile cause they knew certain things about some posers!!! WEIRD

rejectedcarebear said...

Ben! How do you have time to comment?

Marieeee said...

Peace & bacon! Hahaha. Love.

surfer said...

I think monitoring the site would be too time consuming, but if it takes care of bigots & racists like 888, just curious and black cat, then do what you have to do.

canopener said...

Whoa! What about me? Don't I deserve some moderation?

Just Browsing said...

I understand some people's concern about "drawing the line" between moderation vs. censorship, but given what happened yesterday I have to agree with enty's stance. Especially if it would, in fact, be temporary.

canopener said...

I need to be moderated! I am a loose cannon! I cannot be trusted! Enty doesn't love meeeeeeeee!

Beedee99 said...

Awesome, because I sure missed the funny and thoughtful comments that are usually generated around here. Yesterday sucked.

auntliddy said...

Thank god!

Sherry said...

I am not happy with "censorship" and if Affleck is the moderator I wonder who or what they will deem inappropriate for posting. While Enty's comment sounded "reasonable",. Affleck sounds like he has a bone to pick with someone.
"Censorship is a slippery slope? Only if you have something to hide my dears. And we know who you are too.
If you and your friends would stop your bullshit, it wouldn't have to come to this. Audrey is right that this is not up to YOU to decide anything that happens on this blog."
Everyone knows you don't discipline in anger. While some comments were very nasty (the one with the click throughs..I forget) others were just silly. Yeah, who gets to decide?

Jaiden_S said...

I am all for monitored comments. I've seen other sites descend into chaos via the crazy comments left after articles. al.com is a prime example. Go for it, Enty.

plokzy said...

Yeeeeeaaah, great. Censorship. Great solution, the patriot act of Cdan... Fuck you, enty.

braverwoman said...

As a long time reader, and occassional commenter all I can say is THANK YOU!

After the last few days mess, I had actually considered giving up on reading the blog (and def the comments). That pissed me off. This is our place, not these asshole trolls.

So Enty - thank you.

canopener said...

Moderate the fuck outta me Enty. You know how I like it.

usernametaken said...

I've read thread after thread in the last couple weeks of "regulars" blatantly inviting the trolls. Why are you complaining? You got exactly what you were, literally, asking for

Ellen said...

Thank you. I love the comments & I usually ignore posts like the ones yesterday.

Joanna said...

I only post occasionally, but I just wanted to wish you luck with the recent troll problem. Hope it sorts itself out with the least amount of bother possible.

Peace and bacon.
(I'm stealing that, so thanks!)

Sugar said...

I laughed at betch and I laughed at ass to ass and I laughed at those fools yesterday. I guess you can say I don't take this too seriously.

DocP said...

How do you invite a troll?

Fairmaiden327 said...

Great news.

DocP said...
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canopener said...

My invitation came via two beautiful white Peace&Bacon doves, wrapped in satin, and tied with a lovely gold ribbon.

FlailsWildly said...

As a long time lurker with a compulsive addiction to reading CDAN, I for one welcome over Overlords new rules. Yesterday was insane. Whatever inspired the manic trolling it was exhausting to watch, lord only knows how our troll managed it without downing a years supply of Adderall. Hopefully things will go back to normal now.

FrenchGirl said...

it will be like in Celebitchy when you disagree with the author,they delete your commentary or boycott you or it's just a moderator?

just curious said...

So much for freedom of speech.

Hopefully, the Entity doesn't let the ones submitting topics do the moderating.

Gotta admitt the "armpit " stuff was funny.

thephoneisringing said...

Thank goodness, yesterday was ridiculous.

canopener said...

You, too, will be assimilated. And deleted. And censored. And moderated. And tricked. And cajoled. And go blind. And help buy Enty a new car.

audrey said...

I was late to the party...work keeps interupting my CDAN time. Yesterday was a bit chaotic, but not totally unexpected. There have been signs of discontent voiced through out the comments lately about certain posters and the cliques that seemed to dominate the comments. By the time I got home a number of comments had been deleted--I will hasten a guess that those were most likely ones I didn't want to read anyway.

canopener said...

I'm still waiting to be moderated. ENTY IS JUST A TEASE.

just curious said...

I never said anything racist. Whitefolks just hate it when I point out their subtle racism.

mngddess said...

Thanks for listening to the veterans Enty. All the fun commenters have left long ago because of the disgusting trolls. It would be nice to get back to the way it used to be.

shakey said...

Ok - I rarely come to the site anymore, and there was a time (a *long* time, i.e. years) I couldn't go a day without coming on here. I've made some really good virtual friendships thanks to Ent, and what this community was. Remember there was a time when we could reveal personal information about what was happening in our lives (our real lives), and find compassion, sympathy, and the realisation that we weren't alone in our experiences? That was a long time ago, now. I came on here for good laughs and camaraderie; now all I see are +1's (which is the adult equivalent of "first"), juvenile snivelling, and constant attacks on Ent. Flame all you like - this is my opinion, so no amount of sniping will convince me otherwise - it will just bolster it. Ent, I hope we can all get the comments back on track to great laughs and good times!

canopener said...

Memries,
Like the corners of my mind
Misty water-colored memories
Of the way we were
Scattered pictures,
Of the smiles we left behind
Smiles we gave to one another
For the way we were

MrWolf said...

What happened yesterday?! I always miss the good stuff.

Stupid day job.

M52799 said...

I enjoyed the "betch" bantor and A2A as well. I don't mind that kind of thing. Yesterday was insane though.

Nope said...

It went beyond silly trolling. It was bullying the regular commenters. Think about the potential consequences of what you say and do to other people. Good for Enty for stepping in at this point.

CamColty said...

The only way we can eliminate the troll without any comment moderating is to simply ignore it. It wants and needs attention to thrive.

canopener said...

Oh Cam!
Did
you
just
give
the
troll
attention?
I AM SO FUCKING THRIVING RIGHT NOW.

Pink Picklegoo said...

@ Nope I wasn't here for the origin of the dumb jokes so I'm not sure where that was headed or what its purpose fulfilled. I meant other more obvious troll-baiting; insulting a particular actor randomly so their super-fan would come and defend them or insulting the point of view of certain posters so they would get riled up, stuff like that.

Rose said...

Thank you!

Sugar said...

Yes, yesterday was one for the record books, betch. HA! :-)

DocP said...

*scratches troll behind the ear*

Opie said...

I have no idea how you would have the time as I don't have the time to read all the comments I want to daily. But so far today smooth sailing and nice to be able to comment.

MadLyb said...

I'm not tech savvy, but isn't there a way to ban an IP? The nonsense yesterday was likely just one or two persons. Perhaps Enty can ask for a couple of long time commenters to act as moderators?

I know you can double click to hide a post, but it would be nice if there were an "ignore" or "hide" feature that worked by username.

ljsmed said...

@Lola
Agreed!

bobbi_1025 said...

So that is what it takes to get censorship? What about all the countless times other posters were singled out and put down? And please do t use the excuse that it just came to your attention. We all know that someone monitors the comments.

And who will do the censoring now? What if that person doesn't like certain posters or their comments?

All of this is juvenile bullshit. If I wanted to see the unpopular kids or the "newbies" get picked on I would go hang out in the highschool parking lot.

It really doesn't matter to me anymore because this will be my last visit to this site. To those of you I have became friends with, you guys know how to get in touch with me.

canopener said...

Enty can't ignore me. It's part of the court order. It's all right there in the documents. Did you know that Enty is a probate lawyer? He can write your Last Will and Testament!

CantHaveMyPurse said...

I don't mind the approval of comments. I used to read Ted C until all those idiot TwiHards took over and spammed every goddamn thread. I used to enjoy reading the comments there and finally left because all the fun was gone.

lutefisk said...

Thank you man behind the curtain. Peace, love, and soy bacon back at you.

whocaresnow12 said...

And yet nobody wonders that if Enty is actually an entertainment attorney how does he/she have time to moderate the comments for approval.


If you just let to go for a few days then the novelty wears off for the trolls and they move on.

And for the person that suggested everyone be required to register with full names, addresses and numbers, just out of curiosity how many times have you been scammed and had your bank account hacked? Just giving up personal info to a stranger on an unsecured site isn't a smart decision.

PuggleWug said...

Profane threatened to reveal our personal info, 888 regularly confuses the site for a Klan meeting, only now something is going to be done? People here are harassed daily by others, and nothing is ever done. I find this to be a day late, and a dollar short.

I don't read as often, and I don't comment as often. I don't mind the ass2ass comments, I actually find them funny. It is the people being nasty to others, just because they can, that has me fed up. I am pretty much done with CDaN.

Roman Holiday said...

How do you decide what is appropriate or not appropriate? I for one think the Count's comments are rather crude. But most of the clique love him? Meanie R is right that is a fine line!!

Unknown said...

Everything canopener keeps spouting as supposed personal information about Enty came from that one article about this site from a while ago. I don't see why he/she thinks repeating it is so incendiary. In any case, I'm happy for whatever it takes to get this place back to its regular programming.

canopener said...

You might be done, PuggleWug, but CDAN ISN'T DONE WITH YOU.

detown359 said...

Yesterday was ridiculous but it started a few days before that even. I don't have a problem with approving the post. We do that at work. In the PR world it's actually OK for negative comments to post but lately many of the comments wouldn't have gone through. The ass to ass stuff is typical CDAN community and culture. The other stuff, well...

MadLyb said...

@Roman Holiday - I think it would be easy to determine. I opened a few comment windows yesterday and the trolls were obvious.

I find the Count's comments very crude, but I'm not into censorship unless someone is going over-the-top in trying to disrupt and derail a thread. Then again, there's only so long even sad, sorry fucks can keep that up, so I just scroll past until I find a familiar name to read.

Carlos AtĂșn said...

@canopener - your tenacity is my absolute favorite. <3

Ruby Bee said...

Yes, please moderate. While I always enjoy a good debate and a little snark, it's been out of control for a while. This long time reader and rare commenter just might start being more involved again. Thanks Enty!

Layna Day said...

I do agree that you have to be careful with moderation. I understand the need to tamp down the abusive trolls. I just hope it doesn't turn into a way to eliminate healthy debate. Not everyone has the same opinion, and it's nice when that can be expressed without fear of being attacked by one of the cliques or being deleted without cause.

wahoowifey said...

Ditto Tracy! I'm not currently working either! Glad to help, patrol, police, monitor whatever. That was sooooo was weird, and a tiny bit interesting like a car wreck but I wouldn't want to look at it all day. Funny though as I have been reading this site for YEARS I only realized yesterday how much the comments were such an important part to the experience. Once I read enty's comment (above) yesterday (at the bottom) I found myself going..."nooooo...I don't want ANY comments to disappear" so I was like to myself "wooow...they really do mean that much to me". I would be soooo upset if things were to change. Thanks again Enty! I do love your site and you!!!!

phoenix said...

Enty, just a thought.. if there's a way for you to do it, it would be a lot less time consuming just to block the IP numbers of those few who only come around to disrupt things.

canopener said...

So sad. So sorry. Such a fuck. How dare you talk about Enty that way?

canopener said...

I'll get a new IP number out of the closet. I have thousands. Enty should know.

Renoblondee said...

This is Enty's blog. He can do whatever he wants. He didn't say he was going to monitor for sure. He said maybe. He's probably just waiting to see if the 12 year olds keep up their shit or if they fade away.
I've been here for about 4 or 5 years and there is *always* dissent about once a year or so. Newbies start to take over and then the oldies get pissed. Then someone gets ganged up on. It then becomes friendly again. Lather, rinse, repeat. BUT, this thing yesterday was beyond. I don't blame Ent.

kris said...

YAY Enty!!!

nevarmore said...

I am an infrequent commenter, but consistent reader. I say do what you need to do to de-troll it. Everybody has to do some housekeeping sooner or later...

Jen said...

+1

Ray said...

It's a shame that it had to come to this but it is for the best...good looking out big guy

CrazyCatLady said...

Agreed! The A2A, betcha, etc is just as annoying as the trolls! Its a small group of "good people" but they themselves take over just as much as the trolls.

MadLyb said...

@Layna Day - I agree with you there.

You know what? Enty should do nothing. I elect we scroll past and/or simply ignore. Filtering out all the shit in our daily lives is a good skill to learn, anyway.

shiny_special_one said...

Oh, goody. Canopener still needs more attention and still wants to keep grinding her/his ax. Good for you, hunny. Keep on keepin' on wit yo' bad self. Fight the power.
*eyeroll*

canopener said...

More is better than less because if there's more less stuff, then you might want to have some more. However, your parents won't let you because there's only a little. If you really like something, you'll want more of it.
DON'T EVER LEAVE ENTY.
I'VE SEEN THE KOOL-AID VAT.
THEY WOULD RATHER KILL THEMSELVES THAN LOSE YOU.

Crystal Jones said...

This and Radar are the only ones I read. I rarely look at the comments because of this problem. I become too engaged and before you know it, half the day is gone.

See, now I want to know what happened yesterday! Dammit!

Can someone quickly tell me so I don't have to search around? (and they are probably deleted now anyway)

Thank you!

Dick Largesse said...

Why not just add a few moderators? Five or so would do it, and they could delete troll posts almost immediately. It'd be shit-work for a few days, but it'd improve quickly enough.

From what I've seen of the way he operates, there's no way Enty self-moderates this place. He's not around often enough, and that'd mean a huge delay, and then bigger backlog of posts waiting to clear.

canopener said...

Thanks for the attention DullandOrdinaryOne! Your card is in the mail.

Crystal Jones said...

Oh and Peace and Bacon!

Del Riser said...

Yesterday it was a freakin zoo in here. I come here for Enty and the responses of the great people who usually populate the site.
Enty, it's yours, do whatever you think you have to do.

fubugrass said...

I am just... horrifically confused. I don't participate in the comment-sphere enough to understand what's really going on. Heck, I don't even *read* the comments that frequently. I tried to read some of them yesterday when all of this f*ckery was going on, but it just hurt my brain. :(

PookieTwo said...

Thanks for the heads up. Yesterday was nuts and as has already been noted, well coordinated & most likely pre-planned.

Have to say I'm a bit surprised it didn't happen sooner; totally open blogs are a rarity nowadays b/c they are sitting targets for just about anyone, agenda or not. I agree with the solution of temporary moderation until sh*t settles, hopefully then to return to the unmoderated version that's worked for so long. I wouldn't advertise if/when this happens, just do what needs to be done for as long as needed and return to moderation only when necessary....I'm sure the blow-owner/s don't have the time for the hassle, but yesterday was disruptive and nuts.

For those that dislike moderation and the potential for censorship it introduces, I agree w/you, but recall that posting here is a privilege not a right. It's not our forum and its up to the blog owner/s to decide how to manage it....happy posting everyone:)

canopener said...

I have been waiting for the PRIVELEGE TO BE FUCKING MODERATED ALL MORNING. So fucking typical. Nothing but empty promises and threats. What an asshole.

nancer said...

thank GOD. this site's been unreadable. it's become a dirty message board full of 14 year olds and wading through that bullshit for posts relevant to the BI's is tiresome.
it's not a democracy. it's HIS blog. so if somebody doesn't like it, too bad. me? i'm thrilled.

yodelay said...

I hope it's not necessary. How long can one person keep up their hate campaign?

Maybe the dodo will move on when he or she figures out that all of Perez Hilton's entries are not written by him, or that he tries to make money off his site...or *gasp*...his name isn't even Perez Hilton!!!! What a liar! Con artist! And a few people out of the thousands that read him might not know that! They must be told! Over and over! And they must CARE!!!!

What a world, what a world!

MikeAdamson said...

I'm with Lola for the most part although I second canopener's motion that he/she be moderated. Good luck enty but don't drive yourself nuts!

mynerva said...

+1 to infinity

PookieTwo said...

@Phoenix banning IPs is possible on some blogs esp those with more complex individualized software but I'm not sure it works with Blogger. Hate to agree with @canopener but with the availability of vpns/rotating IPs a determined troll/s would just work around it.

I agree w/@Layna and @madlyb about the scroll-by method, this is how I've always read CDAN over the years (skim/scroll over what you don't like and ignore it, respond to what you want to - kind of like a buffet) but yesterday's disruption requires a harder response. Short of shutting down the board moderation is a better temp solution.

trainrides said...

I rarely comment but I read this blog almost religiously. I do notice the clique and may find some of the jokes not so funny, but hey, to each his own. Racism, bigotry, misoginy: it pains me to read through them but I don't have the energy to argue with them nor do I think this is the proper forum.

Enty, I don't mind you moderating the comments because this is still your blog. You do have the right to do so. I just hope you don't take too much time approving the comments because I suck at guessing and rely on others' guesses.

PS. The Count and Dragon never cease to amuse me.

Ivs said...

Agreed Lola!

Yesterday I went from being confused, to uncomfortable, to terrified, to intrigued, and then I stopped at so so entertained! Seriously that shit was crazy but in it's craziness it kind of made sense, and I love that so many commenters came in and said that hey, these guys kind of have a point.

I haven't been around for very long but I've grown to feel safe within this community. I seldom comment on anything on the Internet other than here; it feels kind of pointless at times, but at CDAN there's a really good chance you're going to have nice conversations. So after hanging here for 8 months I felt the urge to be a part of CDAN - but as many other lurkers/newbies, I understand the criticism directed at the atmosphere of our comment section. As big of a troll the person/s was yesterday, there were still some valid points embedded in all the fuckery.


Now I'm not pointing any fingers; I like both Libby and Anna, who were 2 of the regulars that were attacked. And even though I personally have no problem with the inside jokes or the vulgarity, I understand why some would feel excluded and offended. Inside jokes are by their very nature alienating, so of course people are going to react when there's constant mentions of ass2ass - I mean, even I who understood the Requiem of a Dream-reference when someone first used the term ass2ass stopped finding it funny after a while. lBut I'm a live and let live kinda gal, you know?

I think the lesson here is tolerance; as someone else said yesterday, just because some have been here longer than others, it doesn't make it "their" board - and if you're new, recognize that there's going to be inside jokes and some click-y behaviour and you won't like everything people say and do around here. We ARE going to disagree and trolls will come and go but really, who the hell cares?

Chill, people. Those who are here are mostly very intelligent and kind, there is no need to turn on each other or be territorial. It's the Internet! Doesn't it belong to all of us?

Nosey Parker said...

ITA yesterday was crazy! Are armpits ok? Will they need to be approved?

Nope said...

@nancer- well said. I agree.

The Real Dragon said...

@train what do you mean? I'm bad =[


Faith said...

Totally support moderating comments.

canopener said...

ARM PITS. It all comes down to that eventually, doesn't it? Let's go back to praising our Lord and Savior's Greatness. Still waiting to be moderated. FML. I was so excited. MODERATEME! CENSOR THE FUCK OUTTA ME. I DESERVE IT!!!!!!!

The Real Dragon said...

Man I hate moderating comments it takes forever. One of the reason I stop going blindgossip. Every time i tried to call Ace out. It never got posted.

Watever, Enty I aint mad this is your site and you're allowed to do watever you want.

Snowbunny said...

I usually lurk and was wondering what was going on yesterday. Enty, thanks for keeping comments as I know moderating takes extra work. The comments are hilarious and entertaining, and the blind sleuths - well they are truly remarkable at solving all the mysteries!

Vita Brevis said...

Well said @lvs. I do agree.

trainrides said...

How is it bad that you're fun as fuck?
I often get weird looks at the office for laughing at your comments.

No Name said...

After reading through yesterday it seemed like a planned attack because they haven't been back except for canopener who is clearly unhinged.
What I got from yesterday (Tweet thread) was that a lot of people blamed Mooski, Jax, Lutefisk, The Black Cat, Rickatoo and someone named Affleck. Which is interesting because none of those people showed up yesterday. Also according to the Affleck comments doesn't that mean that Ben Affleck further up the thread is Lutefisk and they are bringing back the same hatred and trying not to be noticed? Very interesting.
Bye Enty you've lost another reader.

No Name said...

After reading through yesterday it seemed like a planned attack because they haven't been back except for canopener who is clearly unhinged.
What I got from yesterday (Tweet thread) was that a lot of people blamed Mooski, Jax, Lutefisk, The Black Cat, Rickatoo and someone named Affleck. Which is interesting because none of those people showed up yesterday. Also according to the Affleck comments doesn't that mean that Ben Affleck further up the thread is Lutefisk and they are bringing back the same hatred and trying not to be noticed? Very interesting.
Bye Enty you've lost another reader.

Sherry said...

Yes at first I didn't "get" the Count but i do now and find it amusing however who's to say that one or more of the monitors don't have a goal to get rid of him? We've never heard from Affleck before but they seem pretty dogmatic in their quest to play keep away ftom posters THEY don't approve of. I'm all for playing nicely with everyone until it moves to something hateful. I hope that's the criteria. Maybe clearly defined rules beforehand can put us at ease?

canopener said...

My signed Amber Tamblyn book was censored. Enty went through it with a red Sharpie.

Kimstyle said...

Can I just ask... Why does everyone seem to have so much f-ing time on their hands?!
The trolls have time to post nonsense all day!?
Enty has time to moderate comments AND be a lawyer (give me a break)?!
Why don't I get any of this apparently abundant, free time?

G said...

I agree. Yesterday was ridiculous with the dumb comments. First? or FRIST as the moron wrote. This is a site for adults not children.

Maxine Alisha said...

Wasn't here yesterday so will catch up but what the heck happened?!

The Real Dragon said...

@trainrides I'm sorry. I misunderstood. *hugs*

Just_Me said...

Good for you Enty! Reading the commenters here is my guilty pleasure and by the looks of the site recently it looks like it's been hijacked. Thank you for taking the time to post this and doing what you have to do. Just a damn shame that the riff raff took over and forced you to do this.. Keep posting and Bacon all around!

canopener said...

"This is a site for adults, not children." BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?
This is a site of sycophants who think Enty is the Second Coming and are waiting in line to cup his balls and lick his boots clean.

THAT WAS RICH.

elliemae said...

I'm a lurker & love the snarky stuff. However, lately I've been avoiding this site due to the trolls. I'd love it if they were cut off at their tiny knees.

Marisa said...

Thank god and I don't even believe in god.

libby said...

Ivs---I don't appreciate being named. I made an effort from 9AM to keep regulars calm, trolls UNFED, and ignored REPEATED disgusting sexual harassment. Over & over. But I did something wrong, really? If you re-read, you will see I have nothing to be ashamed of. that is, unless the trolls are hijacking identities too.

My appearance will no doubt get someone excited.

mybrothehero said...

Lol

Marisa said...

Thank god and I don't even believe in god.

sylmarillion said...

Thanks Enty, good luck!

SusanB said...

@whocaresnow - I understand your concern, but if I was safe on Match.com (who had ALL my info, including credit card #) frankly, screening who gets to post without moderation is not a big deal to me if all he gets is my name and address (or Facebook page) as long as the information is kept private.

And to all those who think censorship would not be a problem - some of the most meaningful conversations I've seen here have been about politics, abortion and personal problems. What if there is a monitor who is prolife and deletes all prochoice comments? Or a liberal who deletes all conservative comments? Those two examples are examples of censorship. If you only want to chat with like minded individuals, this isn't the place for you. I've seen lots of comments that bored and/or annoyed me - I just move on. It's only when (like this past week) these comments become the majority of comments that also threaten and harass others that I say something. Just remember - censorship depends on who is doing the censoring.

Therese said...

Dear Bacon, I mean Enty. I don't always read the comments for every post, but I do regularly and randomly read the posts, and occasionally post a comment, even though I never remember my posting name and have to change it. I settled on Bessie Smith, and have even messed that up. Forgot the capitals, etc. Will see... may have to invent another name.

But I always felt safe to read. I am not interested in reading a porn site. I'm not. That is for somewhere else. I am not interested in reading a site where someone is attacked for whatever reason. I really thought in the past when you asked for comments, that we could all contribute, knowing that with the wide variety of readers, you would get many differing opinions, and we could all live with that, respect it, and accommodate differing views. I just was amazed yesterday, and unhappy because I was coming to the conclusion that I would have to quit reading this site. I don't mind telling you Enty, that you have gotten me through some rough times. Every site evolves, but it doesn't devolve. I don't mind if you screen. After what I read yesterday, it needs to happen. It's like a virus attacked the site. Just please don't cut someone out if they sign in under a different name. I'm really quite bright, I just keep forgetting my sign in name. :) or flubbing it up.

I was going to email you when I read the sign in name of one person, asking something obscene. I'm really not interested in reading that on your site. Please clean this up.

Did I ever tell you that one could wrap a tennis shoe in bacon and I would eat it? Have you ever had bacon and chocolate? Chocolate covered bacon? Yum.

YoMismo-RememberKermitGosnell said...

I disagree with the answer to yesterday's issue being prior approval, and I will explain right now:

Yesterday's problem was not "trolling" but "flooding". If some idiot says anything like "first", "X commenter is a colossal douche", "Y politician is a criminal" or whatever, he/she/it is only some virtual being and we should ignore it. Yesterday there were dozens of inane messages and it was what annoyed me and probably most of the commenters.

This blog comments are great, in a great part, because of their immediacy/flow, and if we have to wait until the messages are posted, it won't be worthwhile to read them. There are a lot of webs that write this page's BIs and main suspects. If the comments aren't worthwhile reading, it would save us a lot of time, but you would lose a lot of clicks.

If you start censoring messages, you can finish up censoring the typical but often hilarious "Betty White" answer to a BI involving a nymphomaniac drug fiend or posts about our dislike for some actor/celebrity unless it's Kinky Kim.

Some solution could be the above said of IP ban, but there are a lot of ways someone could go through it (yesterday's trolls weren't exactly professionals, I could have done a lot more harm that they did with less effort if I had wanted).
Another answer could be obliging (does this word exist?) to wait for five minutes between messages in the same board. This would disencourage "flooders" and I know there are a lot of things you can do to avoid it, I don't think yesterday's kids know it.

Count Jerkula said...

Dis da lute again. Tough talkin gal hidin behind an alt? Mu apologies if not.

Chrissy Buns said...

I hope this option will take care of those nasty trolls! CDAN is my favorite of favorites, and reading posts has been an awful chore the last week or more!

hag said...

There used to be a lot of positive energy here and what felt like genuine interactions between people who cared to indulge in the same guilty pleasure. Moderator or not, I'm taking a break from this.

Ill be back when Lohan is out of rehab.

Brooke said...

After reading some of what people have said here, it seems like there is still a misconception - maybe I'm wrong but it's bothering me.

Some people have said that the "trolling" started before yesterday. Do you mean the extra comments by the Count, me, and some of the others "newbies" who might've been raunchier than most people's taste? See, I like Counts humor - he kinda reminds me of someone I know. Hence why I started playing along with him - and I've tried to play along with the "regulars" too, but they are too cliquey. They usually ignore everyone else except each other, unless they're telling people to get over the ass2ass jokes and go find somewhere else to "play". I've watched them too it for close to two years - that's how long I've lurked before commenting.
So, yesterday was bound to happen - I think it was both to piss of the regulars by pointing out the hypocrisy - which is RAMPANT here - in the most annoying way possible and stick it to enty because they have an ax to grind. Personally, I found it hilarious, and there's a comment in blind item #5 that 8513something wrote that lays it out better than I can. I suggest people go read it, and maybe it'll help the regulars understand how MOST of us feel about the situation and the community here.

Finally - and please, correct me if I'm wrong - since there seems to be a private, invite-only forum, why are the regulars even complaining about what goes on here? Seems like they already have a place to go play that is closed-off from the people they don't want anyway? Why can't they go there to have the cliquey community they want, and leave the PUBLIC blog open to the public?

Sorry if this is too long to read - it's probably going to get buried or ignored anyway.

libby said...

YoMismo---I would email Enty directly, seriously. The man needs tips, and you seem to know this stuff.

I don't care for half of the comments here, but why would I expect to? It was the harassment of others that was out-of-bounds. Yes, and the flooding!

Count Jerkula said...

Race baitibg is the same as racism honey. Maybe not in your delusional mind but in the real world it is.

Circe said...

Yes I agree the Count is disgusting. Anyone who thinks it's cute to sexualize, demean, and objecty women is a very sick person. This crap only adds to the rape culture that is pervasive in this country. Disgusting.

canopener said...

Better hike up your mom jeans.

Count Jerkula said...

Why gotta taint my mind w/ Striesand. Now I'm gonna picture every chick I see today wit a huge beak.

Poni-Tayl said...

U go Enty! Do what 'ya gotta do to get rid of the haters! XOXO

Kathy K said...

All the OT comments and the direction a lot of it was going has caused me to spend less time here than I used to; I really only want to see the guesses for the blinds so that became the only comment lists I would look at. Once things started to get so far OT, or less kind, I realized that if the way it is now, was that way it was when I first started coming here, I wouldn't have come back.

So I'm all for it, Enty.

Count Jerkula said...

I only objectify those that want to be objectified. Attention whores in pap shots, Bynes, etc. Maybe you should complain about Enty posting sroties about mental patients taking bathroom nudes or addicts getting bruised up by tricks. That is the site you love so much. Oh and casting couch/molestation blinds.

Karen said...

What happened? I havent posted a comment in a while. Is someone spamming?

libby said...

Brooke, i have been reading since 2006, started commenting maybe in '07, and about a dozen cliques have come and gone. It's a matter of being oneself, being independent, and not being too mean to each other here. It's not hard. I've 'survived' because i stay honest, for better or worse. It's worked so far.
Also. This is a pretty damn nice blog. If anyone thinks this is intimidating, they've never seen a political site.

I'm an old-timer, and I don't know anything about an invite-only forum. I think there is an OLD one (not invite-only, just link is lost) that some old-timers must've cared enough to bookmark, way back. (I didn't.) The recent one Enty created is not used. IDKW.

audrey said...

I don't care about people posting off topic. There is only so much one can say about a blind reveal, or on a post about Lindsay Lohan or one of the K family without it getting redundant and boring. So have at it. What I find offensive is that there are people on this site that banter about the word troll frequently and make a poster feel uncomfortable and unwelcome simply for having a view point that may differ from the current 'in' crowd.
That being said, I have noticed an absence from several posters lately--Dia, Sunny, Rocket Queen, and Brenda L who have been long time regulars.

Count Jerkula said...

You don't see me cluttering up kindness posts w/ my game, do you? Generally my stuff is on topic or fits in where the conversation has gone. And I rarely ever attack someone who complains about me, it is to base and easy. I attack their words or motivations.

Lola said...

@mad, I don't think you can ban an ip on blogger...I'm not even positive you have access to ips like you do on a traditional message board

DewieTheBear said...

@Jerkula, this past week I had to scroll past what seemed to be your endless comments on favorite porns, favorite positions, favorite scenes, etc. If you want to have that conversation with someone, take it to email. It's off-topic for this site, and frankly, not something the majority of readers care to know about. This isn't your personal porn forum, and many of us would appreciate you not using it as such.

Count Jerkula said...

Love you to babe. Lemme gdt a hug when he's done.

Steampunk Jazz said...

Got some craycray goin on here, Enty. Moderate if you must. BTW? I've been here many years as a lurker and the "inner circle" syndrome and the "used to be" was here when I first started reading 6? (lord) years ago.
First, that 'inner circle' keeps it going when you aren't here, they make you want to see what the hits are about , so give them props.
If they don't welcome with open arms? Stick it out and let them get to know you, your humor and your acuity. It comes down to 'Can You Hang?' Will you be there to keep a "conversation" going? Be patient.
Soon those inside jokes will be born in front of your eyes and become your own catchphrase. so...Welcome.
People come and go here. you wanna be an inner circle that some newbie bitches about 6 months from now? then stick around, be responsible, be: respectful/outrageous/sympathetic/snide/miserable/sarcastic/bitchy/supportive and most of all? Funny As Hell.
2nd? "To Absent Friends in The Used To Be" I Miss them too. We should have a reunion. :-)

Count Jerkula said...

Its the economy.

lutefisk said...

I am so happy to see the hinged back among the unhinged. Please stay with us. Hopefully we can return to a normal community.

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