Tuesday, October 24, 2017

Today's Blind Items - The Deal - Old Hollywood/Back In The Day

I wanted to call this Old Hollywood, but not everyone involved is dead. In fact, some of the players are very much still alive. It all centers around three parts of the country. Los Angeles, Washington, D.C. and northern California with the members of the Bohemian Grove.

Back in the early to mid 1970's, there were a lot of statutory rapes occurring. Whether it be people like Jimmy Page who went a decade it seems without having sex with anyone older than 16, or Roman Polanski and his notorious rapes, Hollywood was filled with sexual predators who preyed on tweeners and teens.

One of the top providers of these tweens and teens was a television producer who was one of the biggest producers of the 1970's. For decades he had at least one show running every year and he is in the television hall of fame.

He became known as the go to guy for young sex. Most of his shows required lots of extras and he kept a running tab of young men and women who were open to making money in ways other than acting. He had short two minute clothed and nude videos of almost a thousand teens. He loved finding runaways and would often put them up at a hostel type business he ran so he could keep them close if he needed them.

It was during that time period that the Bohemian Grove members started wanting to spice things up. A couple of calls were made and every year 30-40 male teens would be sent up to the Grove to help out with the entertainment so to speak. All manner of high ranking politicians from both parties indulged including a couple of people who later in the decade would be some of the most powerful people in the country.

Prior to the Roman Polanski arrest, there had been relatively few issues. Sure, there was the girl who had been with the still permanent A+ lister who ended up dead, but everyone one was convinced it was an overdose. There was the movie producer who is considered one of the greatest movie producers ever who made long porn movies with 13-15 year old girls on a regular basis. He would get them hooked on coke or heroin so they would do what he wanted. When he got bored he would give them a bus ticket back to their hometown. He kept a doctor on call for abortions.

There was the A list mostly television actor from a decade earlier who would die shortly after all of this came about. He went through hundreds of these teens provided and spent his entire television fortune playing sex games with them all. He called them sex games. Most involved torture. His death has never been 100% solved and it won't be because he was a loose link.

See, all the loose links were tied up after Roman's arrest. They were tied up with the help of an outgoing A list politician and incoming A list politician. They were both Bohemian Grove members and they wanted to cover their own tracks. Covering their own tracks meant covering the tracks of the Los Angeles end. Our successful television producer sold his company at a fire sale price and never worked again. More than one person was killed or found dead under very suspicious circumstances. Hollywood A listers were threatened with arrests and exposure of their acts, many of which were on film because they liked to watch themselves with young women and men. Sometimes there were secret recordings (audio) the government had of them while investigating other items. The whole operation just went away poof in under about 18 months. Every person stayed silent and nothing happened to them. If they thought you would talk, then bye bye.

58 comments:

Tricia13 said...

Aaron Spelling?

sandybrook said...

Stephen Cannell if the producer is dead?

MontanaMarriott said...

The A list mostly television actor who died mysteriously, PAUL LYNDE?

just sayin' said...

bob crane for dead a list tv actor from the 60's.

sandybrook said...

Otto Preminger for the greatest movie producer ever?

MontanaMarriott said...

The girl who died with the permanent A lister, Kirk Douglas?

Cake said...

Merv Griffin for the TV producer

B626 said...

Sidney Sheldon

MontanaMarriott said...

Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter for outgoing and incoming?

just sayin' said...

richard nixon and ronald reagan for outgoing and incoming a list politicians (both members of the grove).

B626 said...

Robert Evans for the legendary producer

sandybrook said...

Maybe the tv producer could be Quinn Martin and not Stephen J Cannell.

Katie Watkins said...

Agree with Reagan and Nixon. Wiki page shows them both seated at Owl's Nest circa 1967.

Unknown said...

TV Producer - Quinn Martin. 1997 Hall of Fame inductee, had a show in primetime for 21 years straight. Sold his production company in '79 to private investors and had no production credits to his name afterwards.

B626 said...

Clint Eastwood for the still A+ lister
and the overdosed girl

David Howes said...

Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon for presidents coming and going.

CD said...

The producer is Quinn Martin. Everything fits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinn_Martin

just sayin' said...

quinn martin

May Bea said...

First thought was Aaron Spelling for the producer from the 70's, lots of young good looking extras in all his shows.

cc423 said...

Quinn Martin's wife was a writer on the Paul Lynde show... Hmmm...

just sayin' said...

quinn martin's wikipedia reads almost identical to enty's description:

Quinn Martin (May 22, 1922 – September 5, 1987) was an American television producer. He had at least one television series running in prime time every year for 21 straight years (from 1959 to 1980), an industry record.[1] Martin is a member of the Television Hall of Fame, having been inducted in 1997.

just sayin' said...

nixon and reagan for the a list pols, especially because both are southern californians, reagan having a hollywood background, and enty says that they wanted to "cover their own tracks", which meant "covering the tracks of the Los Angeles end".

just sayin' said...

gay nixon story in u.s. news and world report:

https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/12/08/rumors-surface-that-nixon-was-gay

pkelly491 said...

Definitely think it's Quinn Martin, Paul Lynde, and Nixon & Reagan.

Question is, who is the permanent A+ lister who's girlfried OD'd, and who is the legendary movie producer?

Alexandria Anna said...

Wow, how do You know all these details and names? I wouldn't even know, I read about sooo many of these cases between 70-90 that at this point I don't know anymore which cover up is which, or if they're linked or separated, is that part of Franklin coverup? With snuff films and Hunter Thompson involved?

just sayin' said...

paul lynde died of natural causes. the a list tv actor isn't specified as gay, that's left ambiguous. bob crane of hogan's heroes was murdered in the late 70's and the murder never solved. he was a pathalogical, deeply sick sex addict:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3038975/An-electrical-cord-tied-neck-two-gashes-head-left-fan-blood-ceiling-bed-Son-Hogan-s-Heroes-TV-star-Bob-Crane-exposes-father-s-secret-kinky-life-led-grisly-murder.html

AngryLiberalKTS. said...

Sounds maybe like Bob Crane for actor?. Not sure if he qualifies. He was first person I thought of.

1962rocketgoldstar said...

Nicholson for A+

Unknown said...

Agree with Bob Crane as the A-list TV actor.

8==D KermitGosnellKnobjob said...

Nixon and specially Reagan just A list politicians while some other guy/degenerate is a permanent A+? WTF?

Whoever the politicians are, I do not see them as the bad guys, it was the 60/70s, when this was more accepted, and the kids whored themselves (I know they were underage, but not totally innocent). The (more dangerous) criminals were whacked, and others ostracized. The change of the public opinion could have hit the politicians, just for being next to dipshits even if they did nothing wrong (look at my avi if you want a more recent example.)

Fairylights said...

Definitely Bob Crane for the actor. I was living in Scottsdale when he died, we had a front row seat to the circus that was his death, and it's not only never been solved, there are a lot of questions that have never been answered. A lot of unsavory rumors about his sexual practices popped up during the wake of his death.

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CeeSaw said...

going with a few different answers here, and I hope I'm wrong on some.
outgoing politician, ford
incoming politician, carter.
this was 1977 when Polanski was arrested
decade earlier actor was definitely Bob Crane
one of the greatest movie producers of all time, going to guess Walt Disney even though his movies aren't in the traditional sense.
tv producer who had shows every year in the decad (and more) Quinn Martin
I'm stumped on the a+ with the girl who ODed. I don't think Nicholson, but Polanski did his deed at nicholsons house. I think there were a few. Kirk Douglas said s rumored to have violated many women, including Natalie Wood, and is a pig. I've heard this, but just can't recall who.

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Himmmm said...

Quinn Martin huh? Let's see how many boxes he would tick on the guess list: Did any president of the US live in Rancho Santa Fe where QM lived? Gee. And did another president serve in the motion picture unit of the signal corps during WW2? Gee. And did THAT same president have a 1st wife who was the star of her own show produced by QM? Gee whiz.

Did QM ever work with a very oddball cuban bandleader turned tv star who himself was a rumored rapist and alcoholic abuser? Gee. Did that same cubano star have a wife/ex-wife who was a former hooker and major republican donor? Gosh golly.

And for the bonus round...Did QM ever do a propaganda show for his close pal J. Edgar Hoover back in the 60s? I mean it's not like Hoover was some twisted deviant freak or anything either, right?

Well now, tell our contestants what they've won! You better just watch it Enty...Quincy M.E. WILL find you and reveal you!

kregger said...

1970s TV producer: Quinn Martin

Permanent A+ lister whose girlfriend OD'd: Jack Nicholson (this story is out there)

Legendary Movie producer: Robert Evans (convicted also of cocaine trafficking in 1980)

A list TV actor: Bob Crane

Himmmm said...

Sorry...I made an error of memory: While QM lived in Rancho Santa Fe, California, President Nixon would stay at Bing Crosby's home there. It was President Reagan's brother who lived there and Ronnie would visit. Personally I think Bing Crosby had to be in there somewhere. With the butler. In the billiard room. With the lead pipe.

But I just can't...with the whole Bohemian Grove myth. I guess if that nutbag/racist/carny barker named Alex Jones had not tried to spin that into some type of grand conspiracy center about murdering children on an alter to an owl god? Then I might go along with it. But anything that guy mentions - even if he's right - I have to block it out.

Himmmm said...

BTW...Quinn Martin created and produced the tv show THE RUNAWAYS in the 70s. (very subtle Enty). Long list of actors/actresses who made guest spots on that show, including young Scott Baio. Interesting though that a young Terri Nunn (of Berlin) was on that show too. She was famous for her being 14yo when she was in Penthouse Magazine and starred in porn loops at the same ages. Also on that show was a post-Brady Maureen McCormick at the same time she was hooked on Crack/Coke/Heroin and she famously made a "home movie" of herself nude and having sex at the same time. It's no secret. Sammy Davis Jr. used to show that 8mm movie at parties. Disgusting.

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Witchypoo said...

“Personally I think Bing Crosby had to be in there somewhere. With the butler. In the billiard room. With the lead pipe.” #Himmmm. 😂😂😂

just sayin' said...

holy crap, himmmmm!!!!! some billionaire needs to get behind the cause of outing this filth, and offer financial and legal protection to anyone with evidence who's signed a nda, is afraid of being sued or killed or losing their career. it would take the kind of dedication peter thiel showed for destroying gawker, or the mercers have for promoting trump, and some actual good could come of this.

just sayin' said...

speaking of bing crosby, i was close friends with a close friend of mary crosby's, only met her once at a party in the late 70's. he told me her father creeped on her.

DumDumPop said...

Hunter S. Thompson said that Nixon was as queer as a two dollar bill. This was an article he wrote shortly before his death.

Also, doesn't matter whether sleeping with kids was ever "accepted" in history, it's wrong. It was wrong then and it's wrong now.

DumDumPop said...

Should also mention, before anyone takes my words the wrong way, I'm not implying that Nixon potentially being gay means anything or implies any kind of deviancy. Just adding to what people wrote earlier.

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AIP said...

If the dates were fudged a bit (1968), the dead actor could be Ramon Navarro, who liked a bit of strange and paid dearly for it. There was another actor who died in similar circumstances in the 70s but I can't quite remember his name...

The incoming A-List politician alluded to is, without a shadow of a doubt in my mind, George HW Bush, who was head of the CIA around this tume and would later be VP. Not sure who the outgoing politician is- I'm hoping it's not Carter, but I don't think it's Nixon either who claimed not to be a fan of the place. Kissinger maybe? Both of these are still very much alive.

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annie roo said...

What's the betting some newspaper will be doing an article on this very soon. I swear they read this site the way articles turn up within days of posts on here.

Anonymous said...

Why are people mentioning Nixon and Reagan as the politicians? Do "outgoing" and "incoming" not suggest that one succeeded the other?

D Brown said...

Tend not to believe the Bohemian Grove aspect. Let's see, 30-50 teen boys would be 300-500 over a decade. And none of them talked! Yes they made have non-disclosures and/or be threatened but how many teenagers, especially plied with booze and drugs, are really that diligent about observing NDAs? I'm sure there are conspiracies in the world but I don't believe that conspiracies consisting of hundreds and hundreds of people can be kept silent for long.

quindda said...

Biggest television producer of the 70s: Quinn Martin
Still permanent A+ lister: Jack Nicholson
Movie producer: Sam Spiegel
Dead A list mostly television actor: Bob Crane
Outgoing A list politician: Ronald Reagan
Incoming A list politician: George H. W. Bush Members

Olivia said...

That's my guess as well.

Unknown said...

Welcome back, Himmmm.
If nothing else, I learned of the existence of Bohemian Grove. I'm surprised I had not heard of it before.
Agree it's Nixon-Reagan. I don't believe Bush Sr wasn't in CA in this time period.
(Skittlekitty--haven't yet bothered to figure out how to add my 'handle.')

Unknown said...

Could the A list actress have been Inger Stevens?

BayAreaGirl said...

The politicians are definitely Reagan & Nixon. Bush #41 was mostly a diplomat and head of CIA during this time, so civil servant, not a politician yet. Are people forgetting that Reagan was Governor of CA from 1967-1975 and unsuccessfully ran for Pres in 1976? Also, Bohemian Grove has historically included conservative men. The mention about secret audio recordings is a wink at Nixon.

Here are Nixon & Reagan at a Bohemian Grove gathering:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/bohemian-grove-where-the-rich-and-powerful-go-to-misbehave/2011/06/15/AGPV1sVH_blog.html?utm_term=.4357ef81e0a3

AIP said...

As I'm the one thinking GHW Bush, I'll try to clarify my thinking:, I'm not forgetting that at all, but Nixon while completely bent (you can take that any way you like 😉), isn't believed to have been a full member of the Grove, whereas Regan, Bush and Kissinger allegedly were; there have been rumours of him stymieing investigations into the Grove, which may or may not be true. I also thought Skull-n-Bones Bush wouldve been in a better position to run interference in the death of the actor, but I had my years mixed up. Both Kissinger and Bush were out of office by the time of Crane's death. But if we are to take the phrases "incoming" and "outgoing" literally, Nixon was also long gone as an official politician and wasn't publicly well regarded after the Frost interviews in 77. Although I think you're right that the audio recording reference is definitely a nod to him- well-spotted.
Interesting aside: the 1978 mid-terms saw Gingrich and all-round charmer (and fully paid-up Grover) Cheney first elected to the House of Representatives. Must've been something in the water!

Phaedra said...

I say George Murphey and Ronald Reagan for the incoming and outgoing pols.

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